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The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:57am On Sep 19, 2017
By TonyeBarcanista




Yesterday in Abakiliki, Ebonyi state, General Tukur Buratai the Chief of Army Staff made a statement on the pronouncement declaration of Indigenous Peoples of Biafra as a terrorist organization. He said in quote

“You have to get it very clear. First of all, what the Defence Headquarters did was to make pronouncement. It wasn’t a declaration per se. But this has given room for the right step to be taken. I think the government is doing the right thing.

“It is not that we are overstepping our bounds. We are still within the limits. And I ensure you that what the military said was to set the ball rolling and to bring the awareness to the public that this is what this organization is all about. I’m happy that the government has done the right thing right now.”

Two key words in the first paragraph was used by General Buratai while clarifying the position of the Military, they are "pronouncement" and "declaration", while In the second paragraph he mentioned creating "public awareness".

What Does Buratai Really Mean
The COAS is simply saying that we did not declare IPOB a terrorist organization, perhaps because of the provisions of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011 (as amended) but the military sees them as terrorists and has pronounced that they will be approached with the way terrorists are. The military by the pronouncement is telling members of the public (government, citizens, international community, Opposition, supporters etc) that IPOB is a terrorist organization by their conduct.


What Did The Defence Headquarters Really Say?

“After due professional analysis and recent developments, it has become expedient to notify the general public that the claim by IPOB actors that the organisation is non-violent is not true,” he said.

“Hence, the need to bring to public awareness the true and current state of IPOB.

“In this regard, some of their actions, clandestinely and actively, that have been terrorising the general public include:

“The formation of a Biafra Secret Service, claimed formation of Biafra National Guard, unauthorised blocking of public access roads and extortion of money from innocent civilians at illegal road blocks.

“Militant possession and use of weapons (stones, molotov cocktails, machetes and broken bottles, among others) on a military patrol on Sept. 10, 2017.

“Physical confrontation of troops by Nnamdi Kanu and other IPOB actors at a check point on Sept. 11, 2017 and also attempt to snatch their rifles.

“Attack by IPOB members on a military check point on Sept. 12, 2017, at Isialangwa, where one IPOB actor attempted to snatch a female soldier’s rifle.

“From the foregoing, the Armed Forces of Nigeria wish to confirm to the general public that IPOB from all intent, plan and purpose as analysed, is a militant terrorist organisation.”
In the first paragraph they first debunked the notion that IPOB is nonviolent, in the second paragraph they brought the attention of the public to it, in the succeeding paragraph they listed reasons as to why IPOB should be seen as a terrorist organization and they confirmed their assertion in the last paragraph.

The military is simply saying: "after analysing the activities of IPOB, the Military can confirm them to be terrorist organization. We urge the public to be aware of this".

Did The Military Act Out of Order
Absolutely No in my opinion!

What the Military has done is what some of us previously pronounced, which is; "IPOB is a terrorist organization judging by their conducts". Cest fini!

The pronouncement by the military nonetheless does not replace an official declaration by the group as terrorist organization according to the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011, but it has set a motion for the government to do the needful by following the procedure of the law.

Permit me to add that the case of IPOB is similar to that of Boko Haram where though the military sees them and approached them as terrorists since they started unleash terror in 2009, but were only officially designated a "Terrorist Group" in June 2013. That doesn't mean they were non terrorists prior to the time of declaration.

Will Terrorism Charge Be Added To Kanu When Rearrested
Most likely!

Let it be stated that though IPOB is yet to be gazetted a terrorist organization, it doesn't stop the government from prosecuting Nnamdi Kanu and other arrested IPOB members for engaging in terrorism in Accordance with Section 2 of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act. However, he may not be be charged for belonging to a terrorist organization. Remember that Henry Okah of MEND is currently facing charge of terrorism for October 1, 2010 bombing in his capacity as Charles Okah even though his group is not designated a terrorist organization.

Why We Can't/Shouldn't Condone The Atrocities of IPOB
They burnt down mosques, some people looked the other way because they are not Muslims. They attacked Hausa/Northern community in Oyigbo and Aba, some people looked the other way because they are not from the north. We saw a video where they mounted road block on a highway, burning trucks and were for Hausa/Northerners to kill in Aba, some people chose to look the other way because it doesn't concern them. They burnt police station and allegedly killed policemen/snatched rifle, again some still looked the other way.

Some say they were provoked by the Army, but why not take on the army instead of soft unsuspecting targets? Nigerians should learn from history and see the pattern in which terrorists emerge. I am sure that some people from the northeast will be biting their fingers by now for initially seeing the war against Boko Haram as war against their region/zone. This is because the region is in terrible mess today, unfit for any serious investment and people still live with one eye open and in fear due to series of suicide bombings.

Remember, Boko Haram started off as "nonviolent" group that wants total Shari'a in the North in 2001, in 2009 they attacked security forces and government establishment, they progressed to bombing and attack on churches sparing the mosques, then they moved to markets, then to MOSQUES and Muslim communities, then assassination of clerics (irrespective of the faith) and now all Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Atheist, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw etc are enemies of Boko Haram.

Those of us from the Niger Delta can attest the "unreported" atrocities of these so-called Niger Delta militants against locals and how some of them are feared like demigods (I won't mention names for safety reasons).

I want to urge Nigerians irrespective of ethnic group or political leaning to stop supporting actions that threatens national security, especially as it regards lives and properties.

Nigeria masses should understand that power intoxicate and if a group of people see that they have the support of the people to engage in act of terror/violence, they will sooner than later turn against same people that cheer them, causing a lot of terrible damage.

Finally, we are all marginalized, we all have our aspirations as a group irrespective of whether it's secession, restructuring or maintenance of status quo, but one thing we must always ensure that we refuse to allow any individual or group to hijack and manipulate our noble aspirations for their political and financial benefit. We also must be nonviolent in words and in action IF WE REALLY want the world to take us serious like they did Kosovo in 2008, Scotland in 2013 and just of recent Catalans.





May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:01am On Sep 19, 2017
I know that some people are naturally dumb to argue/counter/contribute intelligently but I appeal to them to pretend to be sane for the sake of this subject at least...



Though I ignore trolls

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by LordAdam: 10:02am On Sep 19, 2017
Arewa should accept this thing. Niger Delta rejects you.

-Lord

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by hucienda: 10:02am On Sep 19, 2017
Never seen such a moniker that aptly describes "anywhere the wind blows ..." and "anywhere bèlè face" cheesy

LordAdam:
Arewa should accept this thing. Niger Delta rejects you.

-Lord

bros don vess grin grin grin

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Flets: 10:09am On Sep 19, 2017
The young man called Tonyebarcanista is just hungry. Just give him food and he will sing you any song you want.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by BMZK: 10:12am On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista




Yesterday in Abakiliki, Ebonyi state, General Tukur Buratai the Chief of Army Staff made a statement on the pronouncement declaration of Indigenous Peoples of Biafra as a terrorist organization. He said in quote



Two key words in the first paragraph was used by General Buratai while clarifying the position of the Military, they are "pronouncement" and "declaration", while In the second paragraph he mentioned creating "public awareness".

What Does Buratai Really Mean
The COAS is simply saying that we did not declare IPOB a terrorist organization, perhaps because of the provisions of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011 (as amended) but the military sees them as terrorists and has pronounced that they will be approached with the way terrorists are. The military by the pronouncement is telling members of the public (government, citizens, international community, Opposition, supporters etc) that IPOB is a terrorist organization by their conduct.


What Did The Defence Headquarters Really Say?


In the first paragraph they first debunked the notion that IPOB is nonviolent, in the second paragraph they brought the attention of the public to it, in the succeeding paragraph they listed reasons as to why IPOB should be seen as a terrorist organization and they confirmed their assertion in the last paragraph.

The military is simply saying: "after analysing the activities of IPOB, the Military can confirm them to be terrorist organization. We urge the public to be aware of this".

Did The Military Act Out of Order
Absolutely No in my opinion!

What the Military has done is what some of us previously pronounced, which is; "IPOB is a terrorist organization judging by their conducts". Cest fini!

The pronouncement by the military nonetheless does not replace an official declaration by the group as terrorist organization according to the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011, but it has set a motion for the government to do the needful by following the procedure of the law.

Permit me to add that the case of IPOB is similar to that of Boko Haram where though the military sees them and approached them as terrorists since they started unleash terror in 2009, but were only officially designated a "Terrorist Group" in June 2013. That doesn't mean they were non terrorists prior to the time of declaration.

Will Terrorism Charge Be Added To Kanu When Rearrested
Most likely!

Let it be stated that though IPOB is yet to be gazetted a terrorist organization, it doesn't stop the government from prosecuting Nnamdi Kanu and other arrested IPOB members for engaging in terrorism in Accordance with Section 2 of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act. However, he may not be be charged for belonging to a terrorist organization. Remember that Henry Okah of MEND is currently facing charge of terrorism for October 1, 2010 bombing in his capacity as Charles Okah even though his group is not designated a terrorist organization.

Why We Can't/Shouldn't Condone The Atrocities of IPOB
They burnt down mosques, some people looked the other way because they are not Muslims. They attacked Hausa/Northern community in Oyigbo and Aba, some people looked the other way because they are not from the north. We saw a video where they mounted road block on a highway, burning trucks and were for Hausa/Northerners to kill in Aba, some people chose to look the other way because it doesn't concern them. They burnt police station and allegedly killed policemen/snatched rifle, again some still looked the other way.

Some say they were provoked by the Army, but why not take on the army instead of soft unsuspecting targets? Nigerians should learn from history and see the pattern in which terrorists emerge. I am sure that some people from the northeast will be biting their fingers by now for initially seeing the war against Boko Haram as war against their region/zone. This is because the region is in terrible mess today, unfit for any serious investment and people still live with one eye open and in fear due to series of suicide bombings.

Remember, Boko Haram started off as "nonviolent" group that wants total Shari'a in the North in 2001, in 2009 they attacked security forces and government establishment, they progressed to bombing and attack on churches sparing the mosques, then they moved to markets, then to MOSQUES and Muslim communities, then assassination of clerics (irrespective of the faith) and now all Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Atheist, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw etc are enemies of Boko Haram.

Those of us from the Niger Delta can attest the "unreported" atrocities of these so-called Niger Delta militants against locals and how some of them are feared like demigods (I won't mention names for safety reasons).

I want to urge Nigerians irrespective of ethnic group or political leaning to stop supporting actions that threatens national security, especially as it regards lives and properties.

Nigeria masses should understand that power intoxicate and if a group of people see that they have the support of the people to engage in act of terror/violence, they will sooner than later turn against same people that cheer them, causing a lot of terrible damage.

Finally, we are all marginalized, we all have our aspirations as a group irrespective of whether it's secession, restructuring or maintenance of status quo, but one thing we must always ensure that we refuse to allow any individual or group to hijack and manipulate our noble aspirations for their political and financial benefit. We also must be nonviolent in words and in action IF WE REALLY want the world to take us serious like they did Kosovo in 2008, Scotland in 2013 and just of recent Catalans.





May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria



Your reasoning is based on logic and facts. Unfortunately you are mostly dealing with illogical and non reasonable people.
They will never understand you.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:12am On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
LordAdam:
Arewa should accept this thing. Niger Delta rejects you.

-Lord
hucienda:
Never seen such a moniker that aptly describes "anywhere the wind blows ..." cheesy



grin grin grin
Flets:
The young man called Tonyebarcanista is just hungry. Just give him food and he will sing you any song you want.
OjukwuWarBird:
Poverty can make a boy jump from APC to PDP to APC to APDA and back to APC


Poverty is truly a curse



Tonyebarcanista there is a new political party called Anti IPOB party, will you like to be the secretary while Sarrki and Madridguy remains the President & Vice President respectively
LordAdam:


Don't mind the buff**n!

The Ijaw Youth Council has condemned the Egwu Eke II operation, the proclamation (or whatever it's called now), and the proscription of IPOB.

That is the apex body of all Ijaw Youths. Barcanista is a serial failure and rabble-rouser. He should be Lauretta's toy-boy, they'd get along too well.

-Lord
OjukwuWarBird:
Poverty can make a boy jump from APC to PDP to APC to APDA and back to APC


Poverty is truly a curse



Tonyebarcanista there is a new political party called Anti IPOB party, will you like to be the secretary while Sarrki and Madridguy remains the President & Vice President respectively
[/s]

Definitely, the IQ of IPOB guys is terrible... no one with sensible thing to say so far

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Amarabae(f): 10:13am On Sep 19, 2017
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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by dobokiy: 10:13am On Sep 19, 2017
This guy again
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by hucienda: 10:14am On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
[s][/s]

Definitely, the IQ of IPOB guys is terrible... no one with sensible thing to say so far

hehehe ... keep up with the politainment. cheesy

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by LordAdam: 10:14am On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
[s][/s]

Definitely, the IQ of IPOB guys is terrible... no one with sensible thing to say so far

Typing anything reasonable to you is a chronic waste of time. Why dignify a nonentity with a structured response. It's like putting pearls on a swine.

-Lord

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:15am On Sep 19, 2017
BMZK:
Your reasoning is based on logic and facts. Unfortunately you are mostly dealing with illogical and non reasonable people.
Exactly and it's unfortunate...

I have come to realise that IPOB Youths are victims of brainwashing and in need of help... Though it won't deter us from standing against terrorism...


Omenka, Sarrki, APCsupoorter (the moniker tho), Ipoblogic anything to add?

Lalasticlala

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:15am On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
[s][/s]

Definitely, the IQ of IPOB guys is terrible... no one with sensible thing to say so far
seun should start charging you for advertising your pay per post market

grin

although na beer money sha you dey hustle

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by fulanmafia: 10:16am On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

What the Military has done is what some of us previously pronounced, which is; "IPOB is a terrorist organization judging by their conducts". Cest fini!

The pronouncement by the military nonetheless does not replace an official declaration by the group as terrorist organization according to the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011, but it has set a motion for the government to do the needful by following the procedure of the law.

Permit me to add that the case of IPOB is similar to that of Boko Haram where though the military sees them and approached them as terrorists since they started unleash terror in 2009, but were only officially designated a "Terrorist Group" in June 2013. That doesn't mean they were non terrorists prior to the time of declaration.


Cc: Hope2020 / HopeAtHand

This is what you have failed or refused to grasp.

Educate yourself.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:17am On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
fulanmafia:
CC: Hope2020

Educate yourself.
[/s]
gworo can block brain you know

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Stricker321: 10:17am On Sep 19, 2017
The OP is anywhere belle face. Anywhere the wind blows you will find him there. No one takes him serious anymore.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by freeze001(f): 10:18am On Sep 19, 2017
LordAdam:


Typing anything reasonable to you is a chronic waste of time. Why dignify a nonentity with a structured response. It's like putting pearls on a swine.

-Lord

Beautifully savage! Sharp n hard, right up his stinky hole where the sun don't shine.. grin cheesy

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:18am On Sep 19, 2017
fulanmafia:
CC: Hope2020
Educate yourself.
I wish they are willing but it shouldn't deter us

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:18am On Sep 19, 2017
LordAdam:


Typing anything reasonable to you is a chronic waste of time. Why dignify a nonentity with a structured response. It's like putting pearls on a swine.

-Lord
Hehehehehehe finish him

by now seun pm don full grin
no thanks to the protection seeker

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Stricker321: 10:19am On Sep 19, 2017
Rantings of an unfortunate loser.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:19am On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
TonyeBarcanista:
I wish they are willing but it shouldn't deter us
[/s]
no body read trash from a diploma holder grin

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by hakeem4(m): 10:20am On Sep 19, 2017
Nice point

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:20am On Sep 19, 2017
Amarabae:
G
Amarachi wetin you wan talk grin
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:22am On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
TonyeBarcanista:
[s][/s]

Definitely, the IQ of IPOB guys is terrible... no one with sensible thing to say so far
[/s]
I'll advise you to get a life outside nairaland
as for online politics you're finished
grin

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 10:22am On Sep 19, 2017
Flets:
The young man called Tonyebarcanista is just hungry. Just give him food and he will sing you any song you want.
one beer is enough grin

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by OjukwuWarBird: 10:22am On Sep 19, 2017
Tonyebarcanista if you want to make it in life, stand on what is right & just and don't shift position because of money


If you continue like this, even the worst underperforming political party won't consider you


Tonyebarcanista will you like to eat the food I prepared.?

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by baralatie(m): 10:25am On Sep 19, 2017
the problem is the deep rooted brain wash KANU has imbibed in the mind of some south east youths.
hope the pronouncement by the NA about ipob will make their leaders and parents deter,prevail the youths from bringing about serious trouble for the region.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by orisa37: 10:26am On Sep 19, 2017
IPOB should sue The Military for fraudulent harassment.

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