felixomor:

I already showed
You have shown nothing
Stop fooling around

Shown me what? Lie lie Felixmoron.

Dalam0n:


Shown me what? Lie lie Felixmoron.

Sharrap shameless....
Your two lies finally failed....
First it was dummy
The 2nd one you hoped on has finally fallen flat

Shameless child

felixomor:


Sharrap shameless....
Your two lies finally failed....
First it was dummy
The 2nd one you hoped on has finally fallen flat

Shameless child

You remain a dummy according to him. You haven't show where he said he is not a Christian. Keep making things up. Useless teenager.

Dalam0n:


[s]You remain a dummy according to him. You haven't show where he said he is not a Christian. Keep making things up. Useless teenager.[/s]

Sharrap there. Failed liar
Cutting people's comments because of desperation

You will continue to receive this type of disgrace in my hands.....
Till you run out of name for new monikers
Shameless liar

felixomor:


Sharrap there. Failed liar
Cutting people's comments because of desperation

You will continue to receive this type of disgrace in my hands.....
Till you run out of name for new monikers
Shameless liar

You can't blame others for your inability to comprehend things. After all everybody knows you as a parody Akuya.

Where did he say he isn't a christian as you lied? You are yet to show the quote.

Dalam0n:

[s]
You can't blame others for your inability to comprehend things. After all everybody knows you as a parody Akuya.

Where did he say he isn't a christian as you lied? You are yet to show the quote.[/s]

Sharrap, comment editor....
You are not even ashamed.

I cant even stoop that low to force someone to become atheist because I want to prove a point.

Olodo...
Trying to force an unbeliever

felixomor:


Sharrap, comment editor....
You are not even ashamed.

I cant even stoop that low to force someone to become atheist because I want to prove a point.

Olodo...
Trying to force an unbeliever

He called you a dummy. Everybody knows you have a sleeping brain that is useless that's why you are the resident mor0n and can't comprehend anything.

You don't need to stoop low because you are lower than low.

You have failed to show where you claimed he said he isn't a christian. You remain a liar.

Dalam0n:


[s]He called you a dummy. Everybody knows you have a sleeping brain that is useless that's why you are the resident mor0n and can't comprehend anything.

You don't need to stoop low because you are lower than low.

You have failed to show where you claimed he said he isn't a christian. You remain a liar[/s].

Yes he called abi
No wonder u had to edit his comment

Sharrap, shameless one
Lmao

felixomor:

Yes he called abi
No wonder u had to edit his comment

Sharrap, shameless one
Lmao

He called you a dummy. Call police.

Dalam0n:


He called you a dummy. Call police.

They don't call police for stupidity
Haba, where did you grow up?
It seems you misplaced your genes for CNS development... lol

felixomor:


They don't call police for stupidity
Haba, where did you grow up?
It seems you misplaced your genes for CNS development... lol

He called you a dummy
Your sleeping brain interpreted it as stunt. The same useless brain the interpreted parody as a music video.

Dalam0n:


[s]He called you a dummy
Your sleeping brain interpreted it as stunt. The same useless brain the interpreted parody as a music video[/s].

eh yes....
Thats why u had to edit his comment like a thief
Swolodo

felixomor:


eh yes....
Thats why u had to edit his comment like a thief
Swolodo

Edit what? Just showed the relevant part where he called you a dummy. Your sleeping brain keeps interpretating it as stunt. He called you a dummy.

Dalam0n:


[s]Edit what? Just showed the relevant part where he called you a dummy. Your sleeping brain keeps interpretating it as stunt. He called you a dummy[/s].

You didn't edit ?
Shut up. There was no full stop where u cut from.

Your lies keep proliferating

Give me little time or days, lemme return back and destroy one more time this "Abraham tithe scam". I'll show this scam out of Abraham tithe you're trying to sell to Christians.

Goshen360:
Give me little time or days, lemme return back and destroy one more time this "Abraham tithe scam". I'll show this scam out of Abraham tithe you're trying to sell to Christians.

You wan spoil im market?

Goshen360:
Give me little time or days, lemme return back and destroy one more time this "Abraham tithe scam". I'll show this scam out of Abraham tithe you're trying to sell to Christians.

It seems your bible app stopped working
Or probably you will invent your own fake bible


Anyway, i will be waiting

felixomor:


It seems your bible app stopped working
Or probably you will invent your own fake bible


Anyway, i will be waiting

You should know I was going to do it from my computer. Thought you're in the Spirit.....

Alright, when people like the OP and his likes tell us Christians we are to pay tithe following the pattern of Abraham after they have been destroyed from the false teaching of using/teaching the law kind of tithing or the tithe instructed in the mosaic law; what we're about to show the world (btw which I had done before in the past here) is the fallacy of their/such teachings. Now, let's us go into the word and see instructively how and what Abraham tithed in those days:

....continued below

1About this time war broke out in the region. King Amraphel of Babylonia,a King Arioch of Ellasar, King Kedorlaomer of Elam, and King Tidal of Goiim

2fought against King Bera of Sodom, King Birsha of Gomorrah, King Shinab of Admah, King Shemeber of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (also called Zoar).

3This second group of kings joined forces in Siddim Valley (that is, the valley of the Dead Seab).

4For twelve years they had been subject to King Kedorlaomer, but in the thirteenth year they rebelled against him.

5One year later Kedorlaomer and his allies arrived and defeated the Rephaites at Ashteroth-karnaim, the Zuzites at Ham, the Emites at Shaveh-kiriathaim,

6and the Horites at Mount Seir, as far as El-paran at the edge of the wilderness.

7Then they turned back and came to En-mishpat (now called Kadesh) and conquered all the territory of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites living in Hazazon-tamar.

8Then the rebel kings of Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim, and Bela (also called Zoar) prepared for battle in the valley of the Dead Sea.c
9They fought against King Kedorlaomer of Elam, King Tidal of Goiim, King Amraphel of Babylonia, and King Arioch of Ellasar—four kings against five.

10As it happened, the valley of the Dead Sea was filled with tar pits. And as the army of the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, some fell into the tar pits, while the rest escaped into the mountains.

11The victorious invaders then plundered Sodom and Gomorrah and headed for home, taking with them all the spoils of war and the food supplies.

12They also captured Lot—Abram’s nephew who lived in Sodom—and carried off everything he owned.

13But one of Lot’s men escaped and reported everything to Abram the Hebrew, who was living near the oak grove belonging to Mamre the Amorite. Mamre and his relatives, Eshcol and Aner, were Abram’s allies.

14When Abram heard that his nephew Lot had been captured, he mobilized the 318 trained men who had been born into his household. Then he pursued Kedorlaomer’s army until he caught up with them at Dan.

15There he divided his men and attacked during the night. Kedorlaomer’s army fled, but Abram chased them as far as Hobah, north of Damascus.

16Abram recovered all the goods that had been taken, and he brought back his nephew Lot with his possessions and all the women and other captives.

17After Abram returned from his victory over Kedorlaomer and all his allies, the king of Sodom went out to meet him in the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley).

18And Melchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest of God Most High,d brought Abram some bread and wine.

19Melchizedek blessed Abram with this blessing:

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Creator of heaven and earth.
20And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”
Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of all the goods he had recovered.

21The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give back my people who were captured. But you may keep for yourself all the goods you have recovered.”

22Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

23that I will not take so much as a single thread or sandal thong from what belongs to you. Otherwise you might say, ‘I am the one who made Abram rich.’

24I will accept only what my young warriors have already eaten, and I request that you give a fair share of the goods to my allies—Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre.”

Genesis 14

^ ^ ^

So what we have to do is, cull out facts, summary and conclusions from the above passages and apply to today's Christianity and see if it can apply or if it is something Christians should do as these wolves in sheep's clothing are preaching to us. This is what I intend to do here.

okay, brb and to be ....continue. Make una bear with me, I work night shift and I'll do this gradually and slowly but before then, viewers/readers can digest the passage above, extract facts, summary and conclusion and try to apply it to today's Christianity and see it works but before then, make I go sleep and I will return.

Goshen360:
1About this time war broke out in the region. King Amraphel of Babylonia,a King Arioch of Ellasar, King Kedorlaomer of Elam, and King Tidal of Goiim

2fought against King Bera of Sodom, King Birsha of Gomorrah, King Shinab of Admah, King Shemeber of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (also called Zoar).

3This second group of kings joined forces in Siddim Valley (that is, the valley of the Dead Seab).

4For twelve years they had been subject to King Kedorlaomer, but in the thirteenth year they rebelled against him.

5One year later Kedorlaomer and his allies arrived and defeated the Rephaites at Ashteroth-karnaim, the Zuzites at Ham, the Emites at Shaveh-kiriathaim,

6and the Horites at Mount Seir, as far as El-paran at the edge of the wilderness.

7Then they turned back and came to En-mishpat (now called Kadesh) and conquered all the territory of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites living in Hazazon-tamar.

8Then the rebel kings of Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim, and Bela (also called Zoar) prepared for battle in the valley of the Dead Sea.c
9They fought against King Kedorlaomer of Elam, King Tidal of Goiim, King Amraphel of Babylonia, and King Arioch of Ellasar—four kings against five.

10As it happened, the valley of the Dead Sea was filled with tar pits. And as the army of the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, some fell into the tar pits, while the rest escaped into the mountains.

11The victorious invaders then plundered Sodom and Gomorrah and headed for home, taking with them all the spoils of war and the food supplies.

12They also captured Lot—Abram’s nephew who lived in Sodom—and carried off everything he owned.

13But one of Lot’s men escaped and reported everything to Abram the Hebrew, who was living near the oak grove belonging to Mamre the Amorite. Mamre and his relatives, Eshcol and Aner, were Abram’s allies.

14When Abram heard that his nephew Lot had been captured, he mobilized the 318 trained men who had been born into his household. Then he pursued Kedorlaomer’s army until he caught up with them at Dan.

15There he divided his men and attacked during the night. Kedorlaomer’s army fled, but Abram chased them as far as Hobah, north of Damascus.

16Abram recovered all the goods that had been taken, and he brought back his nephew Lot with his possessions and all the women and other captives.

17After Abram returned from his victory over Kedorlaomer and all his allies, the king of Sodom went out to meet him in the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley).

18And Melchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest of God Most High, d brought Abram some bread and wine.

19Melchizedek blessed Abram with this blessing:

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Creator of heaven and earth.
20And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”
Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of all the goods he had recovered

21The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give back my people who were captured. But you may keep for yourself all the goods you have recovered.”

22Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

23that I will not take so much as a single thread or sandal thong from what belongs to you. Otherwise you might say, ‘I am the one who made Abram rich.’

24I will accept only what my young warriors have already eaten, and I request that you give a fair share of the goods to my allies—Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre.”

Genesis 14

Meditate on the bolded

felixomor:


Meditate on the bolded

Why are you jumping before the appointed time? Is you afraid your fraud will be exposed? Again, I've done this lots of times: Okay, how about this, lets follow scriptures, the same you just highlighted because people reading can see how you cherry-picking but I will put the whole scriptures into perspective: Look at this and others can see too,

16Abram recovered all the goods that had been taken, and he brought back his nephew Lot with his possessions and all the women and other captives. 17After Abram returned from his victory over Kedorlaomer and all his allies, the king of Sodom went out to meet him in the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley). 18And Melchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest of God Most High, d brought Abram some bread and wine.

19Melchizedek blessed Abram with this blessing:

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Creator of heaven and earth.
20And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”
Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of all the goods he had recovered

1. These recovered goods doesn't belong to Abraham. Do you agree? Yes or No

2. What are the contents of this TENTH OF ALL THE GOODS.....from the context of the passage of the scripture above?

We'll do some systematic step-by-step easy to learn exposition here....

Goshen360:


Why are you jumping before the appointed time? Is you afraid your fraud will be exposed? Again, I've done this lots of times: Okay, how about this, lets follow scriptures, the same you just highlighted because people reading can see how you cherry-picking but I will put the whole scriptures into perspective: Look at this and others can see too,

16Abram recovered all the goods that had been taken, and he brought back his nephew Lot with his possessions and all the women and other captives. 17After Abram returned from his victory over Kedorlaomer and all his allies, the king of Sodom went out to meet him in the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley). 18And Melchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest of God Most High, d brought Abram some bread and wine.

19Melchizedek blessed Abram with this blessing:

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Creator of heaven and earth.
20And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”
Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of all the goods he had recovered

1. These recovered goods doesn't belong to Abraham. Do you agree? Yes or No

2. What are the contents of this TENTH OF ALL THE GOODS.....from the context of the passage of the scripture above?

We'll do some systematic step-by-step easy to learn exposition here....

After the war the recovered goods becomes his

Thats Why Melchidezek said,
Just as you quoted:
20"And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”

In other words God provided the victory for Abraham.

So pls answer,
Is iT God that provides your income?
Or its by your power alone?

felixomor:


After the war the recovered goods becomes his

Thats Why Melchidezek said,
Just as you quoted:
20"And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”

In other words God provided the victory for Abraham.

So pls answer,
Is iT God that provides your income?
Or its by your power alone?

Here's the rules, you answer my questions the way they are asked and I'm will to answer yours too. So YOU ANSWERED question #1 but you did answer #2 but here's my rebuttal to your question #1

First, lemme show the world and viewers your lies:

felixomor:


After the war the recovered goods becomes his

No, scriptures NEVER SAID AFTER THE WAR, THE RECOVERY BECAME ABRAHAM'S, that's your fabricated lies. Now, if it became Abraham's, why then Abraham himself said this:

21The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give back my people who were captured. But you may keep for yourself all the goods you have recovered.”

22Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

23that I will not take so much as a single thread or sandal thong from what belongs to you. Otherwise you might say, ‘I am the one who made Abram rich.’

felixomor:


Thats Why Melchidezek said,
Just as you quoted:
20"And blessed be God Most High,
who has defeated your enemies for you.”

In other words God provided the victory for Abraham.

God provided or gave Abraham victory got nothing to do with the recoveries becoming Abraham income or belongings. He clearly stated they don't belong to him, vs 23 so where did you get that from that After war they belong to him?

felixomor:



So pls answer,
Is iT God that provides your income?
Or its by your power alone?

Now you equate the recovery of war to Abraham INCOME which DOES NOT SURFACE IN SCRIPTURES. So the basis of victory given to Abraham versus MY JOB INCOME doesn't match in this context AS I SHOWED FROM SCRIPTURES ABRAHAM SAID THOSE RECOVERIES DOESN'T BELONG TO HIM AND IF WE INTERPRET THAT BY YOUR LOGIC IT MEANS HE'S SAYING THOSE RECOVERIES ARE NOT HIS INCOME.

However, let me answer your question for the sake of discussion. My income is what I worked for and entitled to my reward. It is NOT what I go to war to acquire or recover. God will not come down to do for me or any Christian what they can do for themselves or what God had told us to do. By all means, God gives us strength to go to work but God isn't doing bricklayer or truck driving or fixing people's hair instead of us doing it.

Goshen360:


Here's the rules, you answer my questions the way they are asked and I'm will to answer yours too. So YOU ANSWERED question #1 but you did answer #2 but here's my rebuttal to your question #1

First, lemme show the world and viewers your lies:



No, scriptures NEVER SAID AFTER THE WAR, THE RECOVERY BECAME ABRAHAM'S, that's your fabricated lies. Now, if it became Abraham's, why then Abraham himself said this:

21The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give back my people who were captured. But you may keep for yourself all the goods you have recovered.”

22Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

23that I will not take so much as a single thread or sandal thong from what belongs to you. Otherwise you might say, ‘I am the one who made Abram rich.’



God provided or gave Abraham victory got nothing to do with the recoveries becoming Abraham income or belongings. He clearly stated they don't belong to him, vs 23 so where did you get that from that After war they belong to him?



Now you equate the recovery of war to Abraham INCOME which DOES NOT SURFACE IN SCRIPTURES. So the basis of victory given to Abraham versus MY JOB INCOME doesn't match in this context AS I SHOWED FROM SCRIPTURES ABRAHAM SAID THOSE RECOVERIES DOESN'T BELONG TO HIM AND IF WE INTERPRET THAT BY YOUR LOGIC IT MEANS HE'S SAYING THOSE RECOVERIES ARE NOT HIS INCOME.

However, let me answer your question for the sake of discussion. My income is what I worked for and entitled to my reward. It is NOT what I go to war to acquire or recover. God will not come down to do for me or any Christian what they can do for themselves or what God had told us to do. By all means, God gives us strength to go to work but God isn't doing bricklayer or truck driving or fixing people's hair instead of us doing it.

=====================
Gen 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand . And he gave him tithes of all.
=================
God delivered the vanquished into Abraham's hand as written above

But according to your logic; what God put in "Abraham's hand" does not belong to Abraham?
Abi?


Thats one hell of desperation too plenty.

Secondly, is your salary by your power alone?
Yes or No please. No long stories

Because you are not different from Abraham who also went to work on the battlefield despite the Lord giving him victory.

felixomor:


=====================
Gen 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand . And he gave him tithes of all.
=================
God delivered the vanquished into Abraham's hand as written above

But according to your logic; what God put in "Abraham's hand" does not belong to Abraham?
Abi?


Thats one hell of desperation too plenty.

Secondly, is your salary by your power alone?
Yes or No please. No long stories

Because you are not different from Abraham who also went to work on the battlefield despite the Lord giving him victory.

I'll help you and the audience put it together when I have time.

Goshen360:


I'll help you and the audience put it together when I have time.

You dont have to arrange what is already arranged
The word of God is already arranged.

The questions are as straight as straight can be

It is an insult to Call Abraham’s tithe merely war booty . What he gave was tithe to a priest not war booty to a king .

Galatians 3:7
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.


Abraham is our father of faith . God gave him the revelation of tithing . He taught it to his followers . Isaac learnt it from him and Jacob learnt it from isaac . If we call Abraham tithemerely war booty. What do we call Jacob tithe ? Another war booty ? And was it another king that received it? They had many priests those days .

Tithe is tithe in every generation . The structure may be different . Just as prayer is prayer in every generation and prayer structure may be different . How the Jews prayed is different from how jesus taught his disciples to pray and it’s different from joe the church pray now by the holy ghost . But in s this things prayer is to God . Tithe is to God . Offering is to God

"To pay 10% of your total income to 'a man of God' is the greatest ponzi scheme of the 21st century"

They (men of God) used this money to start serial business and their business empire grows exponentially.

Saverin:
"To pay 10% of your total income to 'a man of God' is the greatest ponzi scheme of the 21st century"

They (men of God) used this money to start serial business and their business empire grows exponentially.

Is that all?

felixomor:

Is that all?

That's not all.

Read Deuteronomy 14: 22-29