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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by jayhansome: 3:20pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
[i] God bless u.... Do u know dat in redeem today, if ur tithe is not up to date and u want to marry, dat wedding will not hold except u pay up?... Even if u wanna bury ur old ones and their tithe book is not updated, no burial service.... Dats a pointer to the fact dat dis is a pure S. [/i] My point exactly,different churches with different doctrines. This is a shameless practice by churches, bringing tradition into the church. Good help us all. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by pabostt: 3:21pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
YoungRichRuler: Your last point nailed it. If you are getting blessed in any denomination you belong, I wonder why you should withold your material blessing from such assembly. Tithing in the new covenant which is a subset of giving is done as a response of our love to what Christ has done. None is coerced to do it but it is an out flow of love to Jesus. So if daddy freezer doesn't want people to give tithe then what did he want them to do? It is honorable to give than to receive. I love and kiss your write up. Nice points. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:27pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:As a graduate of psychology, I know that one of the traits of children is Tantrum's which is what u are doing. It will be pitiful if an adult cannot argue without insults. Perhaps you calm down and read my comment again since apparently you are slow in understanding. I never posited that orphans and widows ought to be provided for by government as being written in the Bible, what I said was that it is the duty of government to cater for the needs of her citizens especially the less privileged and the less vulnerable! It is done in most developed nations. Google "social contract" and read up. Secondly, Israel had no central government because in the time of the Levite's they had no King. Perhaps you don't also understand what central government means. There was no political leader for Israel when God commanded them to give tithes to cater for orphans, widows and foreigners. That was in Deuteronomy and Israel had no king then. It beats me that I could as well be arguing with an infidel or heretic who is only seeking an avenue for offense. Carry yourself and leave my mentions if the above is still not clear enough for you to grasp. Only God can help you. Have a good day |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:29pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
spongeisback:Numbers 18:21-28 and Leviticus 27:30-33 I believe answers your request |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:36pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
ikukuhero:We relate with God based on our revelations and understanding of him. it is not true that Jesus never mentioned tithe because he did in Matthew 23:23-24. While I know that all you stated is correct, I pay tithe because, I think it works! and secondly, the bible says seed time and harvest will not cease! I see it as a seed and am happy to give. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:39pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
indoorscholar:That was Paul saying while pastors and apostles were collecting gifts and monetary support from their members he didn't collect! That does not mean those collecting are wrong sir. Paul also did not marry, that does not mean those that did are wrong! |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:45pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
InvertedHammer:Sir, some of these pastors don't even rely on tithe! The few pastors with jets are also writers of several best sellers! and are guest ministers all around the world where they would likely receive honorariums! Its funny why we emphasize on pastors riding jets while only like 0.00000001 percent of Nigerian pastors actually have jets. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 3:46pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
dayowunmi:Very selective and dishonest The tithes referenced here was food and drink. Never money and it was EVERY THREE YEARS . Not every month "At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town. 29"The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Qzeems: 4:31pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO: So you mean you're an atheist? OK, continue. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Qzeems: 4:38pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Dongreat: So far you mentioned many religions, but only related how one is invented. Please complete your arguments. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by christemmbassey(m): 5:33pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
It doesn't matter the amount of scriptures twisted to support the FRAUD called "tithe". the christian who pays tithe is a sinner, and the fraudster who collect, is a thief. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 5:46pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
dayowunmi: I couldn't read ur Idiotic post sir. The Bible said we ''"pay tithes to levites, widows, orphans, fatherless, poor people, foreigners that have no land"" Now an online idiot says in recent times we shouldn't pay tithes to the people listed above in the Bible because we hlnow have a government.... Now same Fooooooooool still insists pastors should receive tithes n then government takes care of the poor... Lmao . There's nothing meaningful to discuss wit u since all u can do is use ur psychology degree to remove Bible rules n add the ones u prefer 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by tintingz(m): 8:12pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO:Lol funny. For how long will Nigeria or Africa be mentally caged and not free from superstitious, mythical beliefs? When will that start exactly? Nigeria is a 3rd world country because people still hold Superstitions highly(one of the major problem), they believe an imaginary entity will do miracles to change thier country or the imaginary entity is angry at them, check many developed countries and tell me if they believe in this mythical beliefs. If you say Nigerians still need to believe in an imaginary entity is a deluded statement(no offense), I don't see this as a way forward in this country, being religious is ok but can someone be religious and not believe in Superstitions? I guess few. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Justbright(m): 12:12am On Nov 06, 2017 |
MEILYN: Abeg leave dat munmu guy... Comparing religion Wt politics |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Justbright(m): 12:18am On Nov 06, 2017 |
kerry57: It is called gullibility.... And d Bible said, once u know d truth u will be free.... Free urself from mental slavery |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by InvertedHammer: 4:39am On Nov 06, 2017 |
dayowunmi: / Religious organizations are tax-exempt because it is supposed to be a charitable organization like Red Cross, Humane Society, etc. And just as these organizations have been overtaken by human greed, churches are under the shackles of deceitful preaching of fraudulent pastors. At a point, the US Senate had to step in and some prosperity pastors were run out of town. If a pastor is running a side business and co-mingling funds with the church to evade tax, then the pastor is a fraudster. Take a look at what MFM is going through in USA now per tax evasion. If the pastor says that the fund for the private jets come from his side business, can we see his tax certificate because such peripheral enterprise is not tax-exempt by law? They know what they are doing. Their motives are not pure. Some people find it difficult to face the truth. No one is forcing anyone to stop tithing. BUt if you must tithe, one needs to understand that it is not an obligation. Tithing has been ingrained in Christians just as "72 virgins" dogma had been tattooed into the brains of poor muslims. Trying to change such indoctrination will take centuries so I am not the least surprised that many are falling for the shenanigan. The derision christians use to look at muslims per the 72 virgins is the same muslims should use to look at christians for believing that handing out money to wealthy pastors will buy them a place in heaven. While the christians are reserving their enjoyment in heaven, the pastors are living their own heaven on earth. Who is the idiota? 0.0000001% of Nigerian pastors have jets. The remaining 99.99999% are aspiring to have private jets. And the milking gets more stealth. \ |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 9:22am On Nov 06, 2017 |
InvertedHammer:Well said only that nobody ever said tithe helps one to make heaven. Tithe is an act of giving through which u expect God to bless the works of your hands here on earth. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by AlanSugar(m): 9:37am On Nov 06, 2017 |
delexy123: And your point is Good or bad, pastors must chop tithe monies, is that it? Is this your point? Continu. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:06am On Nov 06, 2017 |
indoorscholar: Which Switzerland ? Which Austria ? Which Liechtenstein ? Are you high ? What kind of dirty malodorous lies are these ? These are Christian-dominant countries , with a massively growing Muslim population 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by shegz24(m): 10:17am On Nov 06, 2017 |
Tithing is not a do or die... im not in support of Freeze but I'm not entirely against him. ....many churches make it look like if u dnt pay tithe (even if u are still jobless or a student) u wont make heaven. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by felixomor: 10:19am On Nov 06, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Lol The guy is brainwashed. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:27am On Nov 06, 2017 |
felixomor: Honestly Nigerian atheists and their hilarious chimeras . What rubbish 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 1:55pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
dayowunmi:Good why not leave people that don't want god to bless the work of their hands.Why threaten them? 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by SwagPower: 4:10pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Notmyproblem:A big hole.. Wow ..well I hope u grt at long jumps.... Like I said in d comment u quoted “Some of us have transcended dt primitive stage”.. Religion as MrMystro explained was made 4 simpler minds at a tym wen man hardly understood d natural happenings round Abt him.. These western Europeans have a far reaching understanding of d workings of d universe n so often do not need to turn to religion to give em answers abt occurrences around dem.. Wat u nid to understand is these minds have matured well enough n so they wouldn't engage in “inhumane” acts not out of fear of d afterlife(uve established they don't believe in all dt)but simply Becos dey have been able to establish a system of morals so simple dt Dey know causing injury to a fellow human is unacceptable... Abt ur assertion dt most western Europeans do not believe in life after death.. Do u care to pls explain how u arrived at dt... #Shalom .. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 7:46am On Nov 07, 2017 |
SwagPower: First look up the number of based locals not number of faith based immigrant. I lived in the west during which time I have worked on projects that gave me access to some countries national registry. I don't have to say more . |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by SwagPower: 10:51am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Notmyproblem:Aight..asked cos recent info I came across revealed dt although d atheist or non religious population of Europe has bn on d increase.. They however r not yet the majority.. Tanx anyway. .. #Shalom |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Gggg102(m): 11:31am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oluwaseyi00: it is also the Lord's command to buy food and strong drink with your tithe. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 11:42am On Nov 07, 2017 |
But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 12:04pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
SwagPower: In as much as there are still majority that believe in the existence of a God but majority are still not religious and do not believe in the traditional punishment/rewards awaits us after dead or that there is someone looking over us. They have their moral flaws but when it comes to working for the good of everyone or treating people as human I think we are no where near them. We only treat our families and close friends with decency but when it comes to choosing between our individual progress or that of the entire community irrespective of whether our families and close friends fall among the entire community in question we are most likely to go with self. To me that is the greatest impediment to our development as a nation. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Justbright(m): 5:56pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
aribisala0: They will never quote dis in our churches..... Guess dey don't av it in their own bible |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by SwagPower: 6:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Notmyproblem: Aight.. We'll get dere.. A Tym will come when we in Africa will b free.. The revolution has begun already..More pple keep experiencing the awakening.. Jst dt most don't publicly profess to being non religious in our environs n I'm Sure u knw y .. Been to d religious section of this forum b4 |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 10:56pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
SwagPower: I understand but to be honest at the present stage of our development religion serves a purpose - a purpose of hope. Imagine if not the hope that are the center of every religious messages in Nigeria what the suicide rate would have looked like. Imagine if most people could analyze the economy situation of the country correctly and realize that they are doomed that no matter how hard they fight they are never escaping poverty. On the other hand they were raised to not believe in message of hope and salvation and the promise of a better life hereafter if only they are patient enough. In such a hopeless state and with the understanding that dead puts an end to all the suffering without the possibility of having to answer for it after life most people will willing opt out of life. In my opinion religion gatherings is our version of receiving psychological and emotional help in dealing with the situation we found ourselves in. |
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