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Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 5:33pm On Nov 01, 2017
Sarassin:


I find the bolded very interesting, could you expand your thoughts on this?

well you have to understand that we all have an adversarial nature to us. meaning a side of us that we are constantly trying to keep in check. therein that adversarial nature was the name satan concocted. its an adversarial lower self trying to drag you into the abyss of debauchery and hedonism and always fighting against your righteous half and hence the allegory of jesus brought to the mountain top by satan and being tempted by satan when telling him all the material possessions he can acquire with this wisdom knowledge and understanding he has. its like he has the potential to be the oyakhilome and oyedepo of that era and own 5 private jets and tonnes of money with the wisdom he has. so this is his lower nature ( satan the adversarial nature ) fighting his righteous nature and enticing him with all the riches he can acquire and all the power. this is the satan-adversarial side of him. but he prevailed and didnt succumb to the temptations to be one of these rich modern day pastors. so this portion of the bible is beautifully crafted to where that adversarial nature was presented like a separate entity. its beautiful esoteric literature. so yeah there is satan in every man.
Re: The Middle Path by iamnlia(m): 5:37pm On Nov 01, 2017
Sarassin:


Try not to be too hard on yourself, at twenty very few have discerned their true life's purpose. What I will tell you though is that if you are truly seeking guidance (I assume spiritual guidance) then petitioning or invoking Metatron is the last thing you wish to be doing, there are no adequate words for me to convey the majesty and awe of Metatron to you.

Try to remember the old adage that when the “Pupil is ready, the Master appears”.

You should concentrate on preparing yourself by learning the basics of any spiritual path you choose, one needs to put oneself into what the Christians call a “state of grace”. They do it by “fasting” and “prayer”, if you are not Christian you can achieve the same by learning to meditate, cleaning and replenishing your Chakras source energy through mantra repetition and other practices.

Of what use is it to you if you invoked Metatron, he turned up and you could neither see nor hear him?
Meaningful words yet again sir, but I'm speaking life's purpose in terms of "someone not being in the right place or time" like where you have a creatively gifted person holed up somewhere studying maths or medicine and the world going against him.
Re: The Middle Path by smartn09(m): 6:13pm On Nov 01, 2017
Apogee14:
I agree with you that the ancient knowledge is written in glyphs, signs, codes, images and symbols. I know how to read all these things. I have written numerous books on symbology. I read the hieroglyphs. and yes you are correct, some are in tarot cards. and yes ' gematria ' if thats the name you want to use for it, i call it numerology- decodes a lot of ancient and present and future secrets ( question is what kind of numerology are you using ? cuz most are fake ). And yes satan and jesus are one and the same - you dont need gematria to tell you that - the apocrypha bible tells you that - satan is the lower nature of a man and every man has a lower nature so every man has satan in him. of course we also have entities that operate solely on satanic energy that control this matrix. so yeah for the most part I agree with your post.
oh! Mr Apogee, you has just opened up a powerful secret of the Western occultism which solely specialises in working with the lower guidian angel (satan or lower self in other words) which if l'm not mistaken is sometimes referred to, as human ego.
The Eastern occultist never realized that instead of killing or annihilating the lower self , they should worship and satisfy it only then can they be guided by the ego to their higher self called the angels.
The secret remains if the flesh, human ego, satanic part of our being is not satisfied , how do we access , who will guide us to our higher self which is the purest essence of human existence in connection with the Gods. May l repeat here that it's impossible to contact the Angels unless one has mastered himself ie his lower self and get their desires fulfilled. This is a mystery that is stated clearly in most of the quabalistic literature. I do love the adage that the wine of God's doesn't get into the broken bottle. If the lower self is not totally balanced by fulfilling it's desires, the higher self can never manifest. That's the law. I appreciate your deeper understanding.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 01, 2017
Apogee14:
well you have to understand that we all have an adversarial nature to us. meaning a side of us that we are constantly trying to keep in check. therein that adversarial nature was the name satan concocted. its an adversarial lower self trying to drag you into the abyss of debauchery and hedonism and always fighting against your righteous half and hence the allegory of jesus brought to the mountain top by satan and being tempted by satan when telling him all the material possessions he can acquire with this wisdom knowledge and understanding he has. its like he has the potential to be the oyakhilome and oyedepo of that era and own 5 private jets and tonnes of money with the wisdom he has. so this is his lower nature ( satan the adversarial nature ) fighting his righteous nature and enticing him with all the riches he can acquire and all the power. this is the satan-adversarial side of him. but he prevailed and didnt succumb to the temptations to be one of these rich modern day pastors. so this portion of the bible is beautifully crafted to where that adversarial nature was presented like a separate entity. its beautiful esoteric literature. so yeah there is satan in every man.

Interesting, I understand the concept of the dual nature of things, positive and negative, male and female, ying and yang, I understand too that Man does not have a unitary nature, we are capable of great kindness and great cruelty that is the nature of things.

You wrote that Jesus and Satan are one and the same, it seems that you pre-suppose that Jesus did not live and that’s a whole different argument altogether, I believe Jesus lived but that his life and deeds are not accurately portrayed. I believe Jesus was a man of flesh and blood therefore I do not quite see how he could be an embodiment of Satan at the same time. I think the temptation of Jesus was an illustration of human nature, at an esoteric level I believe it served to give readers a glimpse into the initiation rites Jesus would have undergone prior to being accepted into the Essene community.

By and large, I also think that the conventional representation of Satan is grossly wrong.

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Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 6:20pm On Nov 01, 2017
Sarassin:


I find the bolded very interesting, could you expand your thoughts on this?

and here will be a shorter explanation of what i wrote above. this is the apocryphal book of ecclesiasticus

ECCLESIASTICUS 21 VS 27 “When the ungodly curseth Satan, he curseth his own soul.”

meaning an ungodly man is satan. any ungodly man is satan.
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 6:31pm On Nov 01, 2017
smartn09:
oh! Mr Apogee, you has just opened up a powerful secret of the Western occultism which solely specialises in working with the lower guidian angel (satan or lower self in other words) which if l'm not mistaken is sometimes referred to, as human ego.
The Eastern occultist never realized that instead of killing or annihilating the lower self , they should worship and satisfy it only then can they be guided by the ego to their higher self called the angels.
The secret remains if the flesh, human ego, satanic part of our being is not satisfied , how do we access , who will guide us to our higher self which is the purest essence of human existence in connection with the Gods. May l repeat here that it's impossible to contact the Angels unless one has mastered himself ie his lower self and get their desires fulfilled. This is a mystery that is stated clearly in most of the quabalistic literature. I do love the adage that the wine of God's doesn't get into the broken bottle. If the lower self is not totally balanced by fulfilling it's desires, the higher self can never manifest. That's the law. I appreciate your deeper understanding.
i suppose the satanic side can be referred to as your ego however i think the word ' ego ' will be restrictive in defining it because some crazy diabolic satanic activities that humans partake off are not driven by the ego. some, not all are driven by the ego. so i would say ' ego ' is a restrictive word. now with reference to satisfying all the desires of the lower self in order to conquer it, that is a dangerous approach only because some entities have no limit and you will indulge in whatever activity it is till it consumes and destroys you. we see it with people who are addicted to drugs or sex etc. it ends up killing them because they cant stop. so i dont know if you want to conquer your lower self by indulging it. plus for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction in this cosmic holographic existence so you will always get blowback reaction for every action you take depending on how severe your satanic indulgence is. so i will stay away from any man who says indulge your satanic side till you conquer it. this was the approach of alister crowley and we know what happened to him. he got consumed and destroyed in his own desires. do what thou will
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 7:01pm On Nov 01, 2017
Sarassin:


Interesting, I understand the concept of the dual nature of things, positive and negative, male and female, ying and yang, I understand too that Man does not have a unitary nature, we are capable of great kindness and great cruelty that is the nature of things.

You wrote that Jesus and Satan are one and the same, it seems that you pre-suppose that Jesus did not live and that’s a whole different argument altogether, I believe Jesus lived but that his life and deeds are not accurately portrayed. I believe Jesus was a man of flesh and blood therefore I do not quite see how he could be an embodiment of Satan at the same time. I think the temptation of Jesus was an illustration of human nature, at an esoteric level I believe it served to give readers a glimpse into the initiation rites Jesus would have undergone prior to being accepted into the Essene community.

By and large, I also think that the conventional representation of Satan is grossly wrong.
well you have to understand that the bible is a book that is created to be applicable to all the ages, past present and future. as such anything in the text is conceptual. it is a text of concepts. the names are titles if you are capable of extracting the meaning from the names you will see they are titles and concepts describing the purpose of these men, and not actual names of humans and anyone who is reincarnated and endowed with celestial gifts and is brought down to the holographic 3 dimensional reality for particular purposes such as to galvanise people in all the generations, past present and future will step into the meaning of these names. these names would apply to these people. so there were people who were jesus in the past and there will be jesus in the present and in the future. these are spiritual concepts. as such without a grasp of etymology the understanding of the bible may be a tad bit difficult to grasp because all the names are actual titles and descriptions of incarnation purposes in the 3D reality. so did jesus exist as a man ? of course but that name jesus was not the mans actual name. that is the cosmic title bestowed on that man based on his spiritual endowment and what he was reincarnated into this reality for. for example i know mosiah garvey was a jesus christ. i know malcolm x was a jesus christ. i know martin luther king was a jesus christ. and what was the common theme ? they all had the biblical jesus christ story. came and galvanised the people, got prosecuted and crucified and killed.

and you said you do not see how he could be an embodiment of satan at the same time. well no one is really an embodiment of satan. you become an embodiment of satan if you let your lower nature overtake you. so the title satan is transitory at best and only applies if you are not in control of your lower self



Re: The Middle Path by smartn09(m): 7:01pm On Nov 01, 2017
Apogee14:
i suppose the satanic side can be referred to as your ego however i think the word ' ego ' will be restrictive in defining it because some crazy diabolic satanic activities that humans partake off are not driven by the ego. some, not all are driven by the ego. so i would say ' ego ' is a restrictive word. now with reference to satisfying all the desires of the lower self in order to conquer it, that is a dangerous approach only because some entities have no limit and you will indulge in whatever activity it is till it consumes and destroys you. we see it with people who are addicted to drugs or sex etc. it ends up killing them because they cant stop. so i dont know if you want to conquer your lower self by indulging it. plus for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction in this cosmic holographic existence so you will always get blowback reaction for every action you take depending on how severe your satanic indulgence is. so i will stay away from any man who says indulge your satanic side till you conquer it. this was the approach of alister crowley and we know what happened to him. he got consumed and destroyed in his own desires. do what thou will
Haha....you are taking me down into philosophical analysis of working with the lower self and l feel happy l meet you , perhaps l will get back to you in due time to share some deeper aspect of satanic magic as l know it......It is a mystery that's clearly laid down to those who would understand yet l bought your ideas, one doesn't completely satisfy his desires but there is always an extent before seeking Godhood.
Don't you think that happiness and hunger ar'nt friendly. There's always basic needs that must be actualised before proceeding or else they will become undetachable block against the magician.
Re: The Middle Path by smartn09(m): 7:07pm On Nov 01, 2017
smartn09:
Haha....you are taking me down into philosophical analysis of working with the lower self and l feel happy l meet you , perhaps l will get back to you in due time to share some deeper aspect of satanic magic as l know it......It is a mystery that's clearly laid down to those who would understand yet l bought your ideas, one doesn't completely satisfy his desires but there is always an extent before seeking Godhood.
Don't you think that happiness and hunger ar'nt friendly. There's always basic needs that must be actualised before proceeding or else they will become undetachable block against the magician.
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 7:10pm On Nov 01, 2017
smartn09:
Haha....you are taking me down into philosophical analysis of working with the lower self and l feel happy l meet you , perhaps l will get back to you in due time to share some deeper aspect of satan magic as l know it......It is a mystery that's clearly laid down to those who would understand yet l bought your ideas, one doesn't completely satisfy his desires but there is always an extent before seeking Godhood.
Don't you think that happiness and hunger ar'nt friendly. There's always basic needs that must be actualised before proceeding or else they will become undetachable block against the magician.
you are very correct in saying you need a taste, a sip of it to know what it is about before seeking Godhood. its like the tongue with its different senses. each has to be indulged so as to appreciate the other. bitter, sour, sweet. all has to be indulged to achieve Godhood. its a prerequisite. its the saying you have to go to hell before you get to heaven. the cosmic powers will make sure you dabble in it all before snatching you into Godhood. all this is not within your own powers. if you are destined for greatness your dabbling will not be under your own control. the forces within you are the ones who will take you through all the desires of hell and then snatch you out at the right time to raise you up to ' heaven '. this only applies to angelic beings. beings who were created / reincarnated here for a purpose. you will be closely monitored so you dont fall into the abyss of your desires. so i agree with you brother. you are correct. you must take a sip of hell before you get to heaven lol
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 2:24pm On Nov 02, 2017
Apogee14:
well you have to understand that the bible is a book that is created to be applicable to all the ages, past present and future. as such anything in the text is conceptual. it is a text of concepts. the names are titles if you are capable of extracting the meaning from the names you will see they are titles and concepts describing the purpose of these men, and not actual names of humans and anyone who is reincarnated and endowed with celestial gifts and is brought down to the holographic 3 dimensional reality for particular purposes such as to galvanise people in all the generations, past present and future will step into the meaning of these names. these names would apply to these people. so there were people who were jesus in the past and there will be jesus in the present and in the future. these are spiritual concepts. as such without a grasp of etymology the understanding of the bible may be a tad bit difficult to grasp because all the names are actual titles and descriptions of incarnation purposes in the 3D reality. so did jesus exist as a man ? of course but that name jesus was not the mans actual name. that is the cosmic title bestowed on that man based on his spiritual endowment and what he was reincarnated into this reality for. for example i know mosiah garvey was a jesus christ. i know malcolm x was a jesus christ. i know martin luther king was a jesus christ. and what was the common theme ? they all had the biblical jesus christ story. came and galvanised the people, got prosecuted and crucified and killed.

and you said you do not see how he could be an embodiment of satan at the same time. well no one is really an embodiment of satan. you become an embodiment of satan if you let your lower nature overtake you. so the title satan is transitory at best and only applies if you are not in control of your lower self

Personally, I see the bible for what it is, a quasi-historical account of the Jewish people and their spiritual relationship to their deity. I do not believe that the texts are merely conceptual although I do agree that certain concepts within the texts are personified, for instance we can see the migration of the Hebrew people into Israel personified in their progenitor Abraham. In the NT we see the uses of parables and miracles as symbolisms to deliver a concept.

I fully understand the levels of scriptural interpretation given in Jewish esoterica of which there are four, i.e; direct interpretations, the allegoric definitions, comparative meanings and esoteric meanings. Without an understanding of these interpretive levels it is extremely difficult for the laity to understand the scripture but I do not see any interpretive support for your assertion that the names in the bible are shell titles for transient incarnations.

I believe that Yehoshua which is what Jesus would have been called in his native was a common first century Palestine name, the cosmic title was of course “Christ”, which is bestowed upon those who have achieved the “Christ consciousness”, a form of divinity achieved by a very documented few, the likes of Jesus, Bodhissatvas and Buddha. In that rarefied space I would not mention the likes of M.L King and Malcolm X distinguished though they were.

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Re: The Middle Path by iamnlia(m): 3:03pm On Nov 02, 2017
Sarassin:


Personally, I see the bible for what it is, a quasi-historical account of the Jewish people and their spiritual relationship to their deity. I do not believe that the texts are merely conceptual although I do agree that certain concepts within the texts are personified, for instance we can see the migration of the Hebrew people into Israel personified in their progenitor Abraham. In the NT we see the uses of parables and miracles as symbolisms to deliver a concept.

I fully understand the levels of scriptural interpretation given in Jewish esoterica of which there are four, i.e; direct interpretations, the allegoric definitions, comparative meanings and esoteric meanings. Without an understanding of these interpretive levels it is extremely difficult for the laity to understand the scripture but I do not see any interpretive support for your assertion that the names in the bible are shell titles for transient incarnations.

I believe that Yehoshua which is what Jesus would have been called in his native was a common first century Palestine name, the cosmic title was of course “Christ”, which is bestowed upon those who have achieved the “Christ consciousness”, a form of divinity achieved by a very documented few, the likes of Jesus, Bodhissatvas and Buddha. In that rarefied space I would not mention the likes of M.L King and Malcolm X distinguished though they were.
Is two weeks enough time to petition an angel after the last one?
I made mistakes like not lighting a candle, also it seems there's a specific hour for petitions.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 02, 2017
iamnlia:

Is two weeks enough time to petition an angel after the last one?
I made mistakes like not lighting a candle, also it seems there's a specific hour for petitions.

The hour does not really matter, you can make the petition anytime during the appointed day. If you are petitioning a different Angel then two weeks is more than fine. If you are petitioning the same Angel as had previously been petitioned and your request had not been granted then you should wait at least a month.
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 4:02pm On Nov 04, 2017
Sarassin:
Here is the Enochian alphabet attached. Needless to say, you will not be writing epistles as petitions. Keep them succinct, precise and to the point.
was going thru d angel petition again. I need u to pls elucidate on some issues
U can mail me privately if need be.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 2:46pm On Nov 05, 2017
lekkie073:
was going thru d angel petition again. I need u to pls elucidate on some issues
U can mail me privately if need be.
Hi lekkie073, how can I help?
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 06, 2017
The Dangers of DIY spirituality, of online teachers and esoteric savvy

Religion is based on dogma. No dogma no religion. When people in a quest for truth are "set free" from dogma, the new found and hardly gotten freedom is perceived as a blessing and actually is. Every seeker knows the pain and mental solidity needed to overcome the grisp of religion, and it is a welcomed development that one no longer judges based on the authority of some book, or some teacher.

HOWEVER, there is another dimension to it. Many a seeker now practice a form of DIY spirituality, based on coincidence. The underlying belief is, whatever book, writing, teacher (for most online) that cross their path is divinely ordained.

Another problem is, most people who really dont know what they are talking about, come online and pose as great masters. They package their sh*t so well, that a genuine advanced initiate would look very pale before them. People have an inner longing for direction: whenever they find such people who seem so certain and convinced about their various theories, they tend to follow them because of their own insecurities.

In this post and the following ones, I wish to warn you against deceiving and oft self deceived masters, online teachers, and Do it yourself comfortably at home - spirituality. It can waste you many lifetimes.

A word is enough for the wise.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 3:55pm On Nov 06, 2017
Basic Techniques for Meditation

I have often thought that it might be a good idea to put in one place my thoughts on the practice of meditation particularly for beginners who may be contemplating how to learn a meditation technique. Personally I would happily give up everything in favour of simple meditation if I had to. Meditation is the key to all forms of spiritual or even religious practice it will assist you in every system of spirituality that you will ever engage in if you meditated properly before reading the bible, you will come to understand it with a burning fervour, likewise the Quran or even the Vedanta. Meditation will enhance just about any human endeavor of yours whatsoever.

In order to learn to meditate effectively there is a key component that is essential, it is the act of controlling one’s breathe. In many cultures the word for spirit or energy is also the word for breath, master your breathing proces and you master your life.
The breath usually follows whatever state your mind happens to be in, but in the meditative process we reverse the process and make the mind follow the breath instead. Basically, stop and take a deep breathe.

We will begin the meditative practice by learning a basic breathing pattern. Get seated ensure that your back is reasonably straight and vertical. Simply breathe in through the nostrils keeping the mouth closed take a deep sharp breath for four seconds, hold the breathe for two seconds and expel the breathe for four seconds. This is the 4-2-4 breathe sequence, when used the blood and brain get a better flow of oxygen. One of the primary benefits of this is that the pituitary gland begins to function optimally. This gland controls the physical manifestation of the seat of mystical vision. Aim to maintain the breathing pattern for the duration of the meditative process or as long as you can.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 4:04pm On Nov 06, 2017
Now on to meditation proper.

For the practice sessions we will eschew the preparatory stages essential for deep transcendental meditation such as 'banishing rituals' e.t.c, we shall concentrate only on the process of meditation itself.

Sit in a chair or on a cushion in a relaxed pose as above with your back straight. Begin your session with the 4-2-4 breathing sequence practiced above, relaxing and releasing all tension and thoughts of the past, present, and future.

Focus your attention on the points in between the inhalation and exhalation of your breathing sequence, watch your breath swinging like a pendulum back and forth.

It is a well known teaching that the moment that a pendulum changes direction is a magical moment because it is not moving nor is it at rest. It is frozen in the present. Similarly the moment when the breath is neither inhaled nor exhaled nor held it is a moment outside of time. In this case the moment between breaths is like a gate, through which you can pass beyond normal consciousness.

Focus your attention on this moment as you breathe. Enter into it allow your mind to be gently aware of every moment the breath changes direction. Relax completely let thoughts arise and form with no attachment. Once you recognize that you have left the meditation and are distracted with a train of thought, you should simply return to the breath without criticizing yourself. In fact try not to have any expectation whatsoever about how well your meditation goes. Lusting after a result is the biggest obstacle to meditation. Recognize that thoughts emanate from nothing and disappear into nothing.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 4:12pm On Nov 06, 2017
In all likelihood you will, at first, spend most of your meditation session doing little but being distracted, recognizing it, and returning to the breath only to be distracted again, it is OK, you ARE meditating. You are training your mind to recognize when it is not acting according to your will, and bringing it back from distraction. The meditative act takes place in between the times and gap you are dragging your mind back from its distraction, do not go seeking it, allow it to come to you, after a few sessions your mind begins to get the hang of it and then suddenly you will experience a perfect synchronicity of time and space and you will find that your thirty seconds was in fact five minutes.

You can perform the meditation using anything as a focus. You can focus on the breath itself if that is easier than the moment between breaths. You can repeat a mantra and absorb your attention in that. The possibilities are endless. Pick a method that works for you and stick with it. In the end, all methods of meditation are only ways of entering contemplation, this method gives a way to awareness and can be dropped when you achieve clarity of mind.

Try not to aim for long sessions right away. Start with just 20 minutes in the morning right after you get up, and 20 minutes right before bed. These two 20 minute sessions should be tied together by lots of “meditative moments” throughout the day a minute or so of focusing on the breath and cutting through distraction.

You can do this anywhere at any time. At your desk, in a restaurant, anywhere that you can be still. If you practice in this way, you will definitely see a difference in your life in a relatively short period of time.

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Re: The Middle Path by koxyz: 4:55pm On Nov 06, 2017
LoJ:
The Dangers of DIY spirituality, of online teachers and esoteric savvy

Religion is based on dogma. No dogma no religion. When people in a quest for truth are "set free" from dogma, the new found and hardly gotten freedom is perceived as a blessing and actually is. Every seeker knows the pain and mental solidity needed to overcome the grisp of religion, and it is a welcomed development that one no longer judges based on the authority of some book, or some teacher.

HOWEVER, there is another dimension to it. Many a seeker now practice a form of DIY spirituality, based on coincidence. The underlying belief is, whatever book, writing, teacher (for most online) that cross their path is divinely ordained.

Another problem is, most people who really dont know what they are talking about, come online and pose as great masters. They package their sh*t so well, that a genuine advanced initiate would look very pale before them. People have an inner longing for direction: whenever they find such people who seem so certain and convinced about their various theories, they tend to follow them because of their own insecurities.

In this post and the following ones, I wish to warn you against deceiving and oft self deceived masters, online teachers, and Do it yourself comfortably at home - spirituality. It can waste you many lifetimes.

A word is enough for the wise.

So what do you suggest?
Re: The Middle Path by LotusFan: 6:30pm On Nov 06, 2017
Sarassin:
Basic Techniques for Meditation

I have often thought that it might be a good idea to put in one place my thoughts on the practice of meditation particularly for beginners who may be contemplating how to learn a meditation technique. Personally I would happily give up everything in favour of simple meditation if I had to. Meditation is the key to all forms of spiritual or even religious practice it will assist you in every system of spirituality that you will ever engage in if you meditated properly before reading the bible, you will come to understand it with a burning fervour, likewise the Quran or even the Vedanta. Meditation will enhance just about any human endeavor of yours whatsoever.

In order to learn to meditate effectively there is a key component that is essential, it is the act of controlling one’s breathe. In many cultures the word for spirit or energy is also the word for breath, master your breathing proces and you master your life.
The breath usually follows whatever state your mind happens to be in, but in the meditative process we reverse the process and make the mind follow the breath instead. Basically, stop and take a deep breathe.

We will begin the meditative practice by learning a basic breathing pattern. Get seated ensure that your back is reasonably straight and vertical. Simply breathe in through the nostrils keeping the mouth closed take a deep sharp breath for four seconds, hold the breathe for two seconds and expel the breathe for four seconds. This is the 4-2-4 breathe sequence, when used the blood and brain get a better flow of oxygen. One of the primary benefits of this is that the pituitary gland begins to function optimally. This gland controls the physical manifestation of the seat of mystical vision. Aim to maintain the breathing pattern for the duration of the meditative process or as long as you can.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 7:46pm On Nov 06, 2017
Assuming that the beginner has practised the given breathing and meditation steps assiduously and diligently and has become reasonably proficient at stilling the chatter of the mind and has even begun to experience moments of clarity, what then?

Up until now everything that a beginner has read is somebody else’s experience, every transcendence, every magical experience, every spiritual book that the beginner has ever read is somebody else’s opinion of how things should be, or supposedly are!

From this point onwards the beginner will start to have their own experiences and you may as well throw away that long list of specialist books you promised yourself you would read (figuratively speaking) your experiences will be unique to you determined by factors that you the beginner bring into your orbit. From this point on, you the beginner and you alone will determine the direction of your path.
Once the mind is stilled you will begin to notice changes. When your mind is still your inner vision comes to the fore, this is distinct from your “thinking”, those with a prior spiritual grounding may begin to see spontaneous visions welling up in their consciousness, those without such a grounding may experience colours, and other ethereal floating materials across their inner vision or other such phenomena.

And here is the warning of the first hurdle. Whatever visionary experiences you have at the beginner stage must be dismissed outright, allow the vision to come and go, but do not dwell on it. This is crucial, the temptation is there for the beginner to think he has experienced a “eureka” moment, that he or she has found the solution to all the problems of mankind, I can assure you that you would be wrong. Even if you saw what you believed was Jesus Christ complete with stigmata and a cross, dismiss the vision, even if you saw the great Buddha himself, dismiss the vision. At this point your mind is a treacherous thing to you, it is lazy, reluctant and seeking an easy way out, it will trick and cajole you into accepting the veracity of what you saw and thereby persuading your ego that you are now a fully-fledged practitioner.

Regrettably many beginners will never move beyond this stage.

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Re: The Middle Path by iamnlia(m): 7:57pm On Nov 06, 2017
Sarassin:
Assuming that the beginner has practised the given breathing and meditation steps assiduously and diligently and has become reasonably proficient at stilling the chatter of the mind and has even begun to experience moments of clarity, what then?

Up until now everything that a beginner has read is somebody else’s experience, every transcendence, every magical experience, every spiritual book that the beginner has ever read is somebody else’s opinion of how things should be, or supposedly are!

From this point onwards the beginner will start to have their own experiences and you may as well throw away that long list of specialist books you promised yourself you would read (figuratively speaking) your experiences will be unique to you determined by factors that you the beginner bring into your orbit. From this point on, you the beginner and you alone will determine the direction of your path.
Once the mind is stilled you will begin to notice changes. When your mind is still your inner vision comes to the fore, this is distinct from your “thinking”, those with a prior spiritual grounding may begin to see spontaneous visions welling up in their consciousness, those without such a grounding may experience colours, and other ethereal floating materials across their inner vision or other such phenomena.

And here is the warning of the first hurdle. Whatever visionary experiences you have at the beginner stage must be dismissed outright, allow the vision to come and go, but do not dwell on it. This is crucial, the temptation is there for the beginner to think he has experienced a “eureka” moment, that he or she has found the solution to all the problems of mankind, I can assure you that you would be wrong. Even if you saw what you believed was Jesus Christ complete with stigmata and a cross, dismiss the vision, even if you saw the great Buddha himself, dismiss the vision. At this point your mind is a treacherous thing to you, it is lazy, reluctant and seeking an easy way out, it will trick and cajole you into accepting the veracity of what you saw and thereby persuading your ego that you are now a fully-fledged practitioner.

Regrettably many beginners will never move beyond this stage.
Can I lie down in the absence of a chair.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 8:09pm On Nov 06, 2017
iamnlia:

Can I lie down in the absence of a chair.
No, you should be seated upright with your back straight.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 9:21pm On Nov 06, 2017
I am really feeling this topic.
I wish there was a way to follow this thread twice.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 4:03pm On Nov 07, 2017
There are mainly two types of meditation learners, the first types are those who view meditation from the view point of practising it for relaxation, de-stressing and peace of mind. You will find such learners in their various “Yoga meetings” clutching their caffe lattes and capuccinos clambering into their MPV’s after an “exhausting” round of meditation. There is nothing wrong with this New Age approach but such learners need not carry on reading beyond this paragraph.

The second type are those who wish to practice meditation as a means of Spiritual exercise. If you have followed the exercises in the first series of posts on controlling the breath and having your mind “follow” your breathing, and have done so for a period of time you will have begun to notice a change in your states of awareness during meditation practice. Assuming you have heeded my warnings about getting side-tracked by ephemeral and transitory images, we will now seek to deepen your practice further. Going forward the breathing pattern will serve only to get you into the meditative state, we will cleanse and strengthen your inner core in order to develop your inner mental acuity, and we shall do so by the use of “Bija” Mantra.

Bija Mantras are sounds that do not have literal meanings but have the power to create growth and transformation in the human condition at the physical, emotional and spiritual levels, they are known as “seed mantras”. Bija Mantras have the singular ability to bring about spiritual change in our lives by cleansing and activating our main energy centres, we shall call these energy centres “Chakras” . For our purposes we shall be dealing with 5 main chakras and their corresponding chants that are listed below. Think of these chakras as “flower buds” and as you begin to daily chant the Bija mantras, these flowers within you begin to beautifully unfold, as you continue with the chant, the “petals” of your flower, i.e your chakras open up to receive and channel energy.

You will begin as before, seated with your spine straight and commence the 4-2-4 breathing sequence for about 2 or 3 minutes with your eyes closed. Here, a slight adjustment is to be made, with your eyes still firmly shut you roll your eyeballs upwards slightly and concentrate on the spot just between your eyebrows and you begin the chant in the exact order below;

Om Lum Namaha

Om Vum Namaha

Om Rum Namaha

Om Yum Namaha

Om Hum Namaha


The mantra should be chanted for the duration of your meditative session.
Pronounciation guide: The "U" sound should be pronounced as in "OO"
The vowel should be elongated or "vibrated"
It is a good idea to memorise the mantra before beginning the meditation session.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 9:14pm On Nov 09, 2017
The gradual unfurling of the chakras that will undoubtedly follow from the Namaha series of chants during meditation will bring about profound changes both physically and spiritually to the beginner. Those who are naturally gifted may see their abilities increased ten-fold and others will begin to develop latent potential.

It is quite important that during meditation the focus is not on the breath but on the chant. Each chant corresponds to one particular chakra as can be seen in the corresponding table below, from the Root Chakra at the base of the spine area to the Throat chakra. Advanced practitioners will notice that I have left out certain chakras, this is by design in order not to burden the mind, it is also well known that the others will open up spontaneously during the process.

The correct way to do the chant is to recite each individual mantra 15-20 times semi-silently, focusing on the appropriate chakra. Normally within a two or three week period one should see an increase in vitality, vigour and awareness.

Om Lum Namaha – Root Chakra
Om Vum Namaha – Hara Chakra
Om Rum Namaha – Solar Plexus Chakra
Om Yum Namaha – Heart Chakra
Om Hum Namaha – Throat Chakra

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Re: The Middle Path by smartn09(m): 9:22pm On Nov 14, 2017
Sarassin:
The gradual unfurling of the chakras that will undoubtedly follow from the Namaha series of chants during meditation will bring about profound changes both physically and spiritually to the beginner. Those who are naturally gifted may see their abilities increased ten-fold and others will begin to develop latent potential.

It is quite important that during meditation the focus is not on the breath but on the chant. Each chant corresponds to one particular chakra as can be seen in the corresponding table below, from the Root Chakra at the base of the spine area to the Throat chakra. Advanced practitioners will notice that I have left out certain chakras, this is by design in order not to burden the mind, it is also well known that the others will open up spontaneously during the process.

The correct way to do the chant is to recite each individual mantra 15-20 times semi-silently, focusing on the appropriate chakra. Normally within a two or three week period one should see an increase in vitality, vigour and awareness.

Om Lum Namaha – Root Chakra
Om Vum Namaha – Hara Chakra
Om Rum Namaha – Solar Plexus Chakra
Om Yum Namaha – Heart Chakra
Om Hum Namaha – Throat Chakra
Hello! Thanks ,for your good work so far, l appreciate your open mindedness you have toward some students here in the forum. May l say thank you once again.
It may be of selfish or sign of wickedness to pass by without dropping some massages to you.
It will be of interest you look for "the case histories of kundalini experiences", l promise to offer help if need be( l'm a reseach student on comparative religion and ..........)pls may you also think of the invocation above. Note, every mantra is an invocation.whom are you invoking, pls make your research. It is not for the novice neither for any other person than a dark magician. The entities involved are very abstract and destructive force , one do only encounter them in qliphotic tunnels after series of initiation and education. Wishing you good time.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 11:53pm On Nov 14, 2017
smartn09:
Hello! Thanks ,for your good work so far, l appreciate your open mindedness you have toward some students here in the forum. May l say thank you once again.
It may be of selfish or sign of wickedness to pass by without dropping some massages to you.
It will be of interest you look for "the case histories of kundalini experiences", l promise to offer help if need be( l'm a reseach student on comparative religion and ..........)pls may you also think of the invocation above. Note, every mantra is an invocation.whom are you invoking, pls make your research. It is not for the novice neither for any other person than a dark magician. The entities involved are very abstract and destructive force , one do only encounter them in qliphotic tunnels after series of initiation and education. Wishing you good time.

Thank you for your comments. I gave a method of Transcendental Meditation and the mantras that I have provided which as you know are Bija root mantras, are taken from the Vedic tradition and not Cliphotic which is from the Qabalistic tradition. We seek to expand our minds by activating the Chakras in the order given using the power of the vibration of sounds, these sounds being primordial sounds. There are no destructive forces to be encountered in the Bija mantras I have provided.

As you know, the Cliphotic is the reverse of the lower realms of the Qabalistic “Tree of Life”, it is a different method of meditation altogether. I consider the teachings of the Kundalini to be extremely sacred and dangerous, you will find that I do not mention it in any of my posts (apart from now) I would never put what I know on a public forum. Thanks and I wish you a good day.

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 12:27am On Nov 15, 2017
Sarassin:
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Hello dear,

I have seen your other thread and read it extensively. I did not find appropriate to comment on it, I feel i would be disgracing the thread in doing so grin.

I have a concern with respect to validation and feedback. You said in an earlier post that the practitioner needs to be sure about his art and practices. Whereas the left path checks it "easily" via taking a human life, you did not say how a right hand/middle path practitioner validates his.

I have been practicing a spiritual routine -which I think you know quite well- for quite some time now, and I wish to have feedback on progress. Is there a way to evaluate personal power development, and progress made? As you know objective/independent feedback is critical for motivation and correction.

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Re: The Middle Path by MizMyColi(f): 11:57am On Nov 15, 2017
Hello Sarassin smiley
Concerning meditation, I have a question I feel would benefit others who might have similar question(s).

1. When we meditate, does it have to be the 4-2-4 method?

2. Is it okay to breathe out through the mouth?

3. Is there a youtube video we can use to correctly learn the sounds?
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 12:16pm On Nov 15, 2017
MizMyColi:
Hello Sarassin smiley
Concerning meditation, I have a question I feel would benefit others who might have similar question(s).

1. When we meditate, does it have to be the 4-2-4 method?

2. Is it okay to breathe out through the mouth?

3. Is there a youtube video we can use to correctly learn the sounds?
1. 4-2-4 is for learners.
to experience the true wonders of meditation, try 4-16-8

2. it is totally bad breathing thru the mouth. Dats not the organ for breathing.

3. correct sounds? why not look for documented scripts.

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