Here is a list of Nigeria ills that are largely unobtainable in US. Please offer solutions for areas u have expertise or experience in.
(On a side note do u think someone with a masters and $50,000 should relocate to Nigeria or stay in US?)

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmental planning
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38) poor and corrupt monetary system (black market)
39) Fulani herdsmen
40) military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
57) ineffective drug prescription system
58) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
59) very poor public healthcare sector
60) poor crime investigation process
61) poor forensics
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study
65) non-existent credit system
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"
68) no substantial recompense for death or injury due to govt or police mistake or negligence
69) rampant jungle justice, sometimes on innocent people (could be u)
70) extremely high unemployment rate
71) cultists and cult wars
72) hawkers, beggars, mad and near-mad all over

What's the solution?

Kowor:
What's the solution?

If u ask me na who I go ask

9jaDoc:


If u ask me na who I go ask

Lol

Doomed nation. Pidgin2 doesn’t think such ills exists in this doomed nation but choose to live in perpetual denial in d name of blind patriotism.

9jaDoc:
Here are some Nigerian ills. Please offer solutions for areas u have expertise or experience in

1) rampant corruption everywhere
improve economy
or jail perps


2) corrupt politicians improve economy or jail them

3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38)poor and corrupt monetary system,
39) Fulani herdsmen
40)military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
55) ineffective drug prescription system
56) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
57) very poor public healthcare sector
58) poor crime investigation process
59) poor forensics
60) poor record-keeping process
61) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
62) non-availability of student loans and work-study
63) non-existent credit system

create one


64) non-existent car rental system

create one


65) Buhari (?)

in short just gather ppl and start donating towards all these things

mikolo80:
in short just gather ppl and start donating towards all these things

You can't create credit or car rental without a highly reliable personal identification method and s highly reliable method of keeping track of a person's repayment history.

By the way I have updated the list:

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38) poor and corrupt monetary system (black market)
39) Fulani herdsmen
40) military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
57) ineffective drug prescription system
58) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
59) very poor public healthcare sector
60) poor crime investigation process
61) poor forensics
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study
65) non-existent credit system
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"
68) no substantial recompense for death or injury due to govt or police mistake or negligence
69) rampant jungle justice, sometimes on innocent people (could be u)
70) extremely high unemployment rate

9jaDoc:


You can't create credit or car rental without a highly reliable personal identification method and s highly reliable method of keeping track of a person's repayment history.

By the way I have updated the list:

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
cool yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38) poor and corrupt monetary system (black market)
39) Fulani herdsmen
40) military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
57) ineffective drug prescription system
58) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
59) very poor public healthcare sector
60) poor crime investigation process
61) poor forensics
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study
65) non-existent credit system
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"
68) no substantial recompense for death or injury due to govt or police mistake or negligence
69) rampant jungle justice, sometimes on innocent people (could be u)
70) extremely high unemployment rate

we already have those things
we just lazy to put it to work

mikolo80:
we already have those things
we just lazy to put it to work

No we don't. I bet u I can get a passport in any name I wish in Nigeria

9jaDoc:


No we don't. I bet u I can get a passport in any name I wish in Nigeria

yes you can. same in America if you willing to do the wahala

TheCabal:

Is that your alter ego?

I think the easiest solution may be to leave 9ja

mikolo80:
yes you can. same in America if you willing to do the wahala

Try it in America. You have 99.9% of going to jail. In 9ja 0% - even if caught u bribe the judge. He will dismiss the case and seriously warn the prosecutor, depending on how much bribe u gave him.

9jaDoc:


Try it in America. You have 99.9% of going to jail. In 9ja 0% - even if caught u bribe the judge. He will dismiss the case and seriously warn the prosecutor, depending on how much bribe u gave him.

that's what you've been made to believe. make the bribe fat enough and you'll get away with it.
same with Nigeria
improve the economy and salaries and corruption will go down

mikolo80:
that's what you've been made to believe. make the bribe fat enough and you'll get away with it.
same with Nigeria
improve the economy and salaries and corruption will go down

Why do u folks like deceiving yourselves?
Here's the deal:
In US the average person won't even think of trying to obtain a fake passport because they know it is next to impossible. In Nigeria u can only expedite your passport by paying the tout outside the passport office and giving him your documents.

9jaDoc:


Why do u folks like deceiving yourselves?
Here's the deal:
In US the average person won't even think of trying to obtain a fake passport because they know it is next to impossible. In Nigeria u can only expedite your passport by paying the tout outside the passport office and giving him your documents.

that's what I thought till I learnt you can get fake documents if you really want them. no system is infallible once humans are involved
stop deceiving yourself. In America the state is the tout and you pay for services just as we pay third party in Nigeria.one is pre paid the other is post paid

mikolo80:
that's what I thought till I learnt you can get fake documents if you really want them. no system is infallible once humans are involved
stop deceiving yourself. In America the state is the tout and you pay for services just as we pay third party in Nigeria.one is pre paid the other is post paid

Listen, if u can easily obtain authentic documents in US as u can in 9ja, you'd be a dollar billionaire. Do u know how many cars you can obtain with just one set of documents. Do know how many bank credits, cell phones, even mortgages. Not to talk if collecting other people's tax returns, benefits and entitlements. Then credit cards, store cards, fuel cards, online accounts like PayPal, etc. Be serious

9jaDoc:


Listen, if u can easily obtain authentic documents in US as u can in 9ja, you'd be a dollar billionaire. Do u know how many cars you can obtain with just one set of documents. Do know how many bank credits, cell phones, even mortgages. Not to talk if collecting other people's tax returns, benefits and entitlements. Then credit cards, store cards, fuel cards, online accounts like PayPal, etc. Be serious

like I've said it all depends on how much it's worth to the individual
it's expensive in USA ,not impossible

mikolo80:
like I've said it all depends on how much it's worth to the individual
it's expensive in USA ,not impossible

Oh, nothing is impossible. The question is what are the chances of being caught and what are the chances of avoiding jail if caught. In 9ja the chances are excellent if u have money. In US the chances of u bribing the judge and avoiding jail are near zero.

9jaDoc:


Oh, nothing is impossible. The question is what are the chances of being caught and what are the chances of avoiding jail if caught. In 9ja the chances are excellent if u have money. In US the chances of u bribing the judge and avoiding jail are near zero.

agreed
all I'm saying is they've perfected it over 200 years
we're just starting
stop comparing and work with what we've got to improve

mikolo80:
agreed
all I'm saying is they've perfected it over 200 years
we're just starting
stop comparing and work with what we've got to improve

There are people always trying to compare the two countries when there is no comparison.
Yeah, it took them time but I don't think 9ja will ever get there unless they do something really drastic, like scrapping the whole NPF for starters.

9jaDoc:


There are people always trying to compare the two countries when there is no comparison.
Yeah, it took them time but I don't think 9ja will ever get there unless they do something really drastic, like scrapping the whole NPF for starters.

you can't scrap an important institution like the police.even though I'd also wish we could. just look what happened when we recruited 300,000 new inexperienced policemen under obj. it just doesn't work.
you have to retrain the majority and change mainly the leadership and worst eggs.
we just need more dedicated leaders
for everything. it only takes one good guy, just one.
ask Singapore or Malaysia or Korea even Taiwan
I have a composite strategy using these countries' templates

When one puts it like that

(List Of Heaven's Ills )

Sickly sweet people
no paved roads
overgrown wilderness, all sorts of creatures rubbing shoulders together
feather litter
Dictatorship
no nights
noisy churches
dead water
crazy angels
no infrastructure
no houses
billions of people condemned to fiery prisons just for being born in early pre Christian societies
Filthy everywhere (to god, filth serves a purpose)

mikolo80:
you can't scrap an important institution like the police.even though I'd also wish we could. just look what happened when we recruited 300,000 new inexperienced policemen under obj. it just doesn't work.
you have to retrain the majority and change mainly the leadership and worst eggs.
we just need more dedicated leaders
for everything. it only takes one good guy, just one.
ask Singapore or Malaysia or Korea even Taiwan
I have a composite strategy using these countries' templates

Corruption is embedded in the soul and fabric of NPF. It needs total overhaul like breaking up into smaller more manageable units. By the way the legal system and judiciary too.

Half list boils down strong institutions and better law enforcement. The ither half is economics. Specifics would take to long so I'll take crack at a few.


Solution: Local government and state government development with increased taxes. (Cities and Counties handle this in USA)
22) poor water supply, 
23) poor waste disposal, 
24) poor drainage system, 

Solution: Local Government code enforcement.
25) poor building inspection, 
26) collapsing buildings, 
27) dillapidated housing, 
28) poor drug inspection, 
29) poor food inspection, 
30) poor environmentals

Solution: better regulations and enforcement.
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification

Solution: private credit beaures need to track Information. Student loans private matter. Lenders don't work for free.
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study 
65) non-existent credit system

Solution: rule of law and probably more car tracking software. (My ex car had tracker in it)
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"

9jaDoc:


Corruption is embedded in the soul and fabric of NPF. It needs total overhaul like breaking up into smaller more manageable units. By the way the legal system and judiciary too.

woman, the whole naija needs overhauling
we just need 'good' ppl to do the overhauling

9jaDoc:
If u ask me na who I go ask

You, I and every Nigerian is the solution.

mikolo80:
woman, the whole naija needs overhauling
we just need 'good' ppl to do the overhauling

Good people like you working (not just talking) to impact others with your goodness

Blue3k:
Half list boils down strong institutions and better law enforcement. The ither half is economics. Specifics would take to long so I'll take crack at a few.

Solution: Local government and state government development witg increased taxes. (Cities and Counties handle this in USA)
22) poor water supply, 
23) poor waste disposal, 
24) poor drainage system, 

Solution: Local Government code enforcement.
25) poor building inspection, 
26) collapsing buildings, 
27) dillapidated housing, 
28) poor drug inspection, 
29) poor food inspection, 
30) poor environmentals

Solution:
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study 
65) non-existent credit system
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"

Thanks for your contribution.
Cheers.

mikolo80:
woman, the whole naija needs overhauling
we just need 'good' ppl to do the overhauling

U know, I kind of agree with you. I sometimes feel the whole Nigeria project needs to be scrapped and built up again from ground up. Or just replaced with something else. I sometimes feel we have to admit to ourselves that the Nigeria experiment has failed and start working to replace it with something else.

seguno2:


You, I and every Nigerian is the solution.

How am I the solution? Am I SARS or NPF or govt bureaucrat, etc

Blue3k:
Half list boils down strong institutions and better law enforcement. The ither half is economics. Specifics would take to long so I'll take crack at a few.


Solution: Local government and state government development with increased taxes. (Cities and Counties handle this in USA)
22) poor water supply, 
23) poor waste disposal, 
24) poor drainage system, 

Solution: Local Government code enforcement.
25) poor building inspection, 
26) collapsing buildings, 
27) dillapidated housing, 
28) poor drug inspection, 
29) poor food inspection, 
30) poor environmentals

Solution: better regulations and enforcement.
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification

Solution: private credit beaures need to track Information. Student loans private matter. Lenders don't work for free.
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study 
65) non-existent credit system

Solution: rule of law and probably more car tracking software. (My ex car had tracker in it)
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"

How .can car tracker prevent me from selling as parts a car I rented with fake id.
I think most important is a fraud-proof personal identification system (which Nigeria as we know it can never achieve)