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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:05pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
When you inquire of a perfect definition of scam, the JW organisation does not pop up on your search list. The general notion pokes you right in the eye.

Here on Nairaland, people are appalled by the barrage of pieces of evidence proving deception and Jesus narratives of the last days in the organizations and people that you uphold as religious pundits. If you do not feel cringy by the perpetual videos, testimonies, and satires proving the unscrupulous actions by these famous and infamous religious leaders, it makes you complicit. It does because you broadcast lies that were published by an unverified blogger. You accept it as the truth and smash it in the JW faces. On the other hand, you have been very vocal in your disapproval of Daddy Freeze when he exposes your beloved leaders. He has video evidence and he has the Bible verses. In comparison, he has made his points and you should have filtered who does what. It should make you crosscheck the Bible and deliberate. You defiantly blackball Freeze because he is vocal, but here you are doing the same thing to the JW without any fragment of factual facts. Jesus said that we will be persecuted and this is one persecutor spotted.

When a question about RCCG, Winners or the top dogs is thrown at you, you think that you are too smart to dock incognito. We know your source.

And yes, all my points to you have been factual and resourceful. You have not proven me wrong on any occasion. I chose to let go to avoid dragging stuff to slack.

If you are anti-scam, how about revealing the meaning of Yahweh?

You cannot be anti-scam when you have no identity. What is the name of your church? Only a scammer hides in his shadow. Angels of God are angels of LIGHT. They do not hide to condemn others. They are transparent like the JW. We come real to you and you have our website loaded with all of our doctrine and teachings. Our activities are revealed and you can judge for yourself.

It is a scam to criticize people's looks when you step out looking like a drag. You cannot defend your Trinity. The Bible condemns your Trinity and your core trinitarians have testified that it has been a scam all along.

Mark 12:32 what other scam is bigger than lying against Jehovah and Jesus? Jesus said that God is one and Jehovah told us that he is one and not 3 godhead of Artemis and Ba'al. Jesus said in John 20:17 that his God is our God. You read that in the Bible yet, isn't it deceit and scam to the millions of people who are fooled into believing otherwise?

If you believe that Nairalanders need to know the truth, then why are you anti-Freeze?

Dear, you can only change your clothes and not your skin. You have innate hate for the JW and that hate is not going anywhere except for divine intervention. You can only pretend this far. You are on a smear campaign and it is a futile ride.
i repeat, there is no way u define scam as regarding religion with Bible in particular without mentioning jw.. Just go tru the Wikipedia link ur brother posted up there and scroll down to d portion u see an image of a wheat. Den read d story there..

The churches u mentioned has contributed more to the society dat ur cult.. No wonder ur DaddyFreeze seems to have lost his steam. U can help him out

U keep making false authoritative statements. Who told u u have to reveal ur identity to be anti scam? How about wiki leaks. U think u r talking to one of those ur jw folks u deceive with grammar. grin >:
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:07pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Do you believe that people can have spiritual husbands and wives?
no i do not as nothing like dat in my Bible
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:20pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Going by your logic, would you call a meteorologist false because the rain did not fall?

Going by your logic, name your church and eyewitnesses will reveal the fake prophecies by you pastors only in 2018 alone. No need to bo back.

Going by your logic, Apostle Paul himself was false, isn't it? Apostle Peter will not escape your list as well.

If our religion is heretical and yet revealing the truth just as Jesus commanded, something must be wrong with your interpretation of heresy.

John 20:17 Jesus said that he has a God and the JW agree 100% to it. You do not agree to it. Who is a heresy?

To solve the issue of heresy here and now, answer this question. Do you believe that Jesus' God is our God as written in the holy scripture in John 20:17?

To solve the issue, explain the meaning of Yahweh, the name of your God.

To solve the issue of heresy, do you believe that Jesus is the firstborn of creation as in Colossians 1:15?
in other words, your spiritual leaders aren't different from meteorologists. I wonder who entrusts the eternal destiny of his soul to probability and chance.

U dat said Jesus is angel Michael is asking me to solve heresy. If u can believe dat, den u r an heretic..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:30pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
You seem to be running away from the questions that I asked. Why?

How many people die as a result of blood transfusion?

Acts 15:20 The Bible advised us to abstain from blood. We cannot ignore the Bible and honor you. It is futile to follow your lead because you have nothing to offer the JW. We uphold the command of Jehovah and refuse to follow Trinitarians forcing us to accept blood.
i am not avoiding anything, i was banned on 4 different accounts. My salvation101 with three others i created to beat the ban.

here is statistics from the US state government alone. It states that 4.5millon Americans would die each year where it not for blood transfusion
https://www.bnl.gov/hr/blooddrive/56facts.asp
Imagine if the world did not resist your false teaching, 4.5 Americans would die despite the quality of their health care. I wonder wat would be d fate of third world countries.

Ludicrous.. Take the word "abstain ", yet you are allowed to accept blood fractions. Who is deceiving who

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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:30pm On May 04, 2018
Yes, speed kills. Slow down! Are the apostles part of the church that you referred?
Yahwehchild:
i stated the verse already nd since u don't know it i will repeat myself again.. Ephesians 2:20
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

I wonder how u still feel like u know d bible well enough
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:43pm On May 04, 2018
My question was quite simple. How many people have died FROM blood transfusion?

Like I have told you, we do not eat blood. There are four main components that MAKE UP what we call blood.

Let me ask you. If your doctor advises you to avoid protein, does it mean that you should avoid amino acid?

If your doctor advises you to abstain from meat, will you equally abstain from water?

See, these are the components of meat and protein.
Yahwehchild:
i am not avoiding anything, i was banned on 4 different accounts. My salvation101 with three others i created to beat the ban.

here is statistics from the US state government alone. It states that 4.5millon Americans would die each year where it not for blood transfusion
https://www.bnl.gov/hr/blooddrive/56facts.asp
Imagine if the world did not resist your false teaching, 4.5 Americans would die despite the quality of their health care. I wonder wat would be d fate of third world countries.

Ludicrous.. Take the word "abstain ", yet you are allowed to accept blood fractions. Who is deceiving who
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:46pm On May 04, 2018
To exonerate yourself, explain the meaning of Yahweh, the name of your God.
Yahwehchild:
in other words, your spiritual leaders aren't different from meteorologists. I wonder who entrusts the eternal destiny of his soul to probability and chance.

U dat said Jesus is angel Michael is asking me to solve heresy. If u can believe dat, den u r an heretic..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:47pm On May 04, 2018
Would you refer to all Pentecostal pastors who preach and deliver people of spiritual spouses as anti-Christ?
Yahwehchild:
no i do not as nothing like dat in my Bible
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:57pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Yes, speed kills. Slow down! Are the apostles part of the church that you referred?
u just denied that this portion exists in d bible, now you see it in black and white and want to cunningly change the narrative
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:58pm On May 04, 2018
What grammar? This is average English if I am not misunderstood.

Yes, you must reveal your identity if you are an angel of light. Only demon-oriented folks hide under shadows to critic others. Jesus was asked several times and put on an oath to reveal his identity. He himself inquired about his own identity. That is called transparency.

You cannot come out in the open to declare that nairalanders are entitled to the truth when you are not the truth. You cannot give what you do not have. You are incognito and guess what! A speech from an unverified person does not count. If you condemn the JW, on what ground do you stand to do it?

See, when you attack a particular belief hiding in a crater, you may be forgiven because you stay below the feet. Nevertheless, when you attack an organization, you cannot be a shadow. You need to step out as someone who believes in his truth. No one with the truth babbles in the dark. Jesus led by example.
Yahwehchild:
i repeat, there is no way u define scam as regarding religion with Bible in particular without mentioning jw.. Just go tru the Wikipedia link ur brother posted up there and scroll down to d portion u see an image of a wheat. Den read d story there..

The churches u mentioned has contributed more to the society dat ur cult.. No wonder ur DaddyFreeze seems to have lost his steam. U can help him out

U keep making false authoritative statements. Who told u u have to reveal ur identity to be anti scam? How about wiki leaks. U think u r talking to one of those ur jw folks u deceive with grammar. grin >:

Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:01pm On May 04, 2018
I asked a question that stunned you. I didn't make a statement for you to say that I am changing the narrative. You said that THE CHURCH was built on... and you sent me Ephesians. I didn't see THE CHURCH there. So, I am only asking you a simple question.

Are the apostles part of the church that you referred?
Yahwehchild:
u just denied that this portion exists in d bible, now you see it in black and white and want to cunningly change the narrative
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:08pm On May 04, 2018
Do not run away now. I can see you online. You thought that you had the powderkeg and you came with so much speed. Answer my questions. I am waiting.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:10pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
My question was quite simple. How many people have died FROM blood transfusion?

Like I have told you, we do not eat blood. There are four main components that MAKE UP what we call blood.

Let me ask you. If your doctor advises you to avoid protein, does it mean that you should avoid amino acid?

If your doctor advises you to abstain from meat, will you equally abstain from water?

See, these are the components of meat and protein.
try harder.. If you want to religiously follow the instruction of abstaining, den would should stay away from the fractions too. Bible also asks us to abstain every appearance of evil, do u also break evil into fraction?
U folks break down same blood u r supposed to abstain from and permit d use of its fraction.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:11pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Would you refer to all Pentecostal pastors who preach and deliver people of spiritual spouses as anti-Christ?
dey are heretic. And i will say it to their faces
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:13pm On May 04, 2018
I did not deny that this verse existed in the Bible. I only said, "I hope you are not quoting Matthew 16:18". That is where the CHURCH can be found in some Bible versions. At least, I closed up that end and narrowed you down to a one-way exit so that we can deliberate on a particular verse. So, kindly respond to my questions and we will proceed.
Yahwehchild:
u just denied that this portion exists in d bible, now you see it in black and white and want to cunningly change the narrative
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:13pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Do not run away now. I can see you online. You thought that you had the powderkeg and you came with so much speed. Answer my questions. I am waiting.
you wish. I have never run from any conversation with you, u do not av d stuff to make me run. I av proven it time and again
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:17pm On May 04, 2018
Wow! That is very bold. Does your Church believe in that doctrine?
Yahwehchild:
dey are heretic. And i will say it to their faces
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:19pm On May 04, 2018
I have the receipts but I will let it slide for now.

Okay, answer my questions above.
Yahwehchild:
you wish. I have never run from any conversation with you, u do not av d stuff to make me run. I av proven it time and again
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:20pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
I asked a question that stunned you. I didn't make a statement for you to say that I am changing the narrative. You said that THE CHURCH was built on... and you sent me Ephesians. I didn't see THE CHURCH there. So, I am only asking you a simple question.

Are the apostles part of the church that you referred?
u even quoted a version of scripture thinking dat was where i was referring to, u where oblivious of this particular verse i just quoted apparently.

The Apostles were part of the church if dat is d question u think i can't answer. They were the instrumentalities wit wch Christ built the church. Their position was always very important in the church so much so that wen d space left by Judas iscariot was vacant it had to be filled. There is no Christianity without the apostles.. Their writing is wat we even call the new testament
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:25pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Wow! That is very bold. Does your Church believe in that doctrine?
nope. Do you?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:26pm On May 04, 2018
You still have that fraction in eggs and in the placental fluid.

Fraction is not blood and you can argue with science over that.

The fruits that you eat are used to make wine. If the doctor advises you to stay away from alcohol, does it mean staying away from fruits?
Yahwehchild:
try harder.. If you want to religiously follow the instruction of abstaining, den would should stay away from the fractions too. Bible also asks us to abstain every appearance of evil, do u also break evil into fraction?
U folks break down same blood u r supposed to abstain from and permit d use of its fraction.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:28pm On May 04, 2018
We do not. How many times have you outrightly condemned any Pentecostal Church for preaching spiritual marriages the way you do the JW?
Yahwehchild:
nope. Do you?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:35pm On May 04, 2018
I never said that I was oblivious. Your choice of word(the church) nailed you and it was an opener for me.

Compare your answer to your earlier comment. Do they tally? Can you see where you derailed? That slight shift is the code for heresy.

The proceeding verses contain the sense of what you had wanted to articulate. Read to understand for your benefit before you throw criticisms.
Yahwehchild:
u even quoted a version of scripture thinking dat was where i was referring to, u where oblivious of this particular verse i just quoted apparently.

The Apostles were part of the church if dat is d question u think i can't answer. They were the instrumentalities wit wch Christ built the church. Their position was always very important in the church so much so that wen d space left by Judas iscariot was vacant it had to be filled. There is no Christianity without the apostles.. Their writing is wat we even call the new testament
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:51pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
You still have that fraction in eggs and in the placental fluid.

Fraction is not blood and you can argue with science over that.

The fruits that you eat are used to make wine. If the doctor advises you to stay away from alcohol, does it mean staying away from fruits?
u av the fraction in eggs, doesn't it justify why you have to take it from blood? Why don't you go and take it from the eggs?
fruit and alcohol aren't the same, alcohol is gotten tru the process of fermentation. Didn't dey teach u dat in school? But u breaking down something wch ur God asked you to abstain from Isn't dat disobedience
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:54pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
We do not. How many times have you outrightly condemned any Pentecostal Church for preaching spiritual marriages the way you do the JW?
alot of times even on dis forum. Wen i see a thread on it i make it known that it is not biblical. Unlike u dat will open a thread to preach ur doctrine but would expect those not in support of it to keep quiet
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Where did the Bible say that the church was built on the Apostles and prophets? Can you refer me to the scripture verse? I hope you are not quoting Matthew 16:18
undecided
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:58pm On May 04, 2018
Good argument!
You also find it in saliva. Should Christians stop kissing as well?
Yahwehchild:
u av the fraction in eggs, doesn't it justify why you have to take it from blood? Why don't you go and take it from the eggs?
fruit and alcohol aren't the same, alcohol is gotten tru the process of fermentation. Didn't dey teach u dat in school? But u breaking down something wch ur God asked you to abstain from Isn't dat disobedience
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:59pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
I never said that I was oblivious. Your choice of word(the church) nailed you and it was an opener for me.

Compare your answer to your earlier comment. Do they tally? Can you see where you derailed? That slight shift is the code for heresy.

The proceeding verses contain the sense of what you had wanted to articulate. Read to understand for your benefit before you throw criticisms.
i just quoted u...
I made the statement in a chat with ur fellow jw, not even you. U tot i made it up sebi
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:01pm On May 04, 2018
You just couldn't find it cheesy. That intricate detail eluded you. You missed the point big time and your comment got stuck between your tongue and your lips.
Yahwehchild:
undecided
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:05pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
You just couldn't find it cheesy. That intricate detail eluded you. You missed the point big time and your comment got stuck between your tongue and your lips.
quoted it for you to see nd d comment followed in d next post.. But since u are so ashamed of ursef right now and would rather resort to shade throwing like u were taught in ur cult as evident by ur fellow jws
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:06pm On May 04, 2018
I knew you got it wrong that was why I stepped in to put you on the right line. That comment was absolutely wrong. The Bible did not say 'THE CHURCH'. You fell out of the truth. Stay on the course of the truth. Like I have told you, the following verses contain the message for you. Read them and accept that you fell off the radar.
Yahwehchild:
i just quoted u...
I made the statement in a chat with ur fellow jw, not even you. U tot i made it up sebi
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:09pm On May 04, 2018
removetheturban:
Good argument!
You also find it in saliva. Should Christians stop kissing as well?
good point you just raise too. There are individuals who are prone to having bleeding gums, d blood would get into their saliva too. So if there is exchange between spouses, the one who might av swallowed some blood in d saliva has automatically broken ur Jehovah rule right?

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