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| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by yommyuk: 8:37pm On Mar 04, 2011 |
I wonder what is the above all about? Meaning you have not yet read up on the dog. oh dear. In essence, it picture is telling you to "LET GO"  |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:37pm On Mar 05, 2011 |
One God March 5, 2011 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD." (Deuteronomy 6:4) This great verse has been recited countless times by Israelites down through the centuries, setting forth their distinctive belief in one great Creator God. The Jews had retained their original belief in creation, handed down from Noah, while the other nations had all allowed their original monotheistic creationism to degenerate into a wide variety of religions, all basically equivalent to the polytheistic evolutionism of the early Sumerians at Babel. But along with its strong assertion of monotheism, there is also a very real suggestion that this declaration, with its thrice-named subject, is also setting forth the Triune God. The name, "Lord," of course, is Yahweh, or Jehovah, the self-existing One who reveals Himself, while "God" is Elohim, the powerful Creator/Ruler. "Jehovah our Elohim is one Jehovah" is the proclamation. A number of respected Jewish commentators have acknowledged that the verse spoke of a "unified oneness," rather than an "absolute oneness." The revered book called the Zohar, for example, even said that the first mention was of the Father; the second one the Messiah; and the third, the Holy Spirit. The key word "one" (Hebrew, achad) is often used to denote unity in diversity. For example, when Eve was united to Adam in marriage, they were said to be "one flesh" (Genesis 2:24). Similarly, on the third day of creation, the waters were "gathered together unto one place," yet this gathering together was called "Seas" (i.e., more than one sea; Genesis 1:9-10). Thus, Israel's great declaration should really be understood as saying in effect: "The eternally omnipresent Father, also Creator and Sustainer of all things, is our unified self-revealing Lord." HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Sweetnecta: 10:24pm On Mar 05, 2011 |
@yommyuk: « #512 on: Yesterday at 08:37:08 PM » [Quote]Quote I wonder what is the above all about?the bulldog " Staffordshire Bull Terrier"or its trainer? or what exactly to the truth that i reminded olaadegbu? Meaning you have not yet read up on the dog. oh dear. In essence, it picture is telling you to "LET GO" Sad[/Quote]let go? What are you talking about? Let go WHAT? you dont know anything about bulldog. the one holding is the only one that can control it. bulldog protects the one that owns it. whats your point, really? |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by yommyuk: 9:32am On Mar 06, 2011 |
let go? What are you talking about? Let go WHAT? you dont know anything about bulldog. the one holding is the only one that can control it. bulldog protects the one that owns it. Correction: The dog in the pic is not a bulldog, but a " Staffordshire Bull Terrier" which is more dangerous and powerful than a bulldog by far. whats your point, really It is common knowledge that when a "Staffordshire Bull Terrier" holds on to an object, it does not let go due to no fault of its own. The problem is that it's Jaw automatically locks and cannot be opened until the nerves and muscles relaxes.  You are acting the same, Let Go  If you do not agree with a subject and the writter thinks otherwise ,what's the point of the debate. You get time sha  |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Sweetnecta: 11:16pm On Mar 06, 2011 |
^^^^^ Thanks for the correction. I am not a dog trainer or in the business of raising dog[s]. It seems that one of the two is your passion. What you fail to understand though, is that such a dog in its clamping on quality which you described, is actually beneficial to the owner, otherwise why have such an animal? Unless one enjoys a burden that such a responsibility brings, such a dog is a guard to ensure that the property of its owner is not easily violated. unlike what many call a lapping dog; fresh poodle is an example of such a dog. I think you miss what the muslims are telling you though; Worship the Creator of all creatures. Do not worship anything else, or ignore Him Who is the Sole Power. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:28pm On Mar 09, 2011 |
"And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was" -- John 17:5 The Evidence Bible. Jesus declared that He was with the Father before the world came into existence, and that the Father loved Him before the foundation of the world (vs.24). Hebrews 7:3 tells us that He had no beginning. He not only existed before Abraham (John 8:58), He existed before the creation of the world (John 1:1-3). |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by yommyuk: 1:28am On Mar 10, 2011 |
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| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:43pm On Mar 10, 2011 |
"Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am" -- John 8:58 The Evidence Bible. Was Jesus God in human form? If I give you a small slice of cheese from a large block (the taste being constant throughout the whole block), and you spit out the cheese saying you hate the taste, then you reject the whole block. Jesus was God manifest in human form. If the Jews and other religious folks rejected Him, they rejected the Father also -- he who is of God hears God's words. John later stated in his epistle, "Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father, (but) he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also" (1 John 2:23). |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:07pm On Mar 12, 2011 |
The Limited Knowledge of Jesus March 12, 2011 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32) This verse has always been difficult to understand. If Jesus was God, how could He be ignorant of the time of His second coming? Indeed He was, and is, God, but He also was, and is, man. This is a part of the mystery of the divine/human nature of Christ. In the gospel record, we see frequent evidences of His humanity (He grew weary, for example, and suffered pain), but also many evidences of deity (His virgin birth, His resurrection and ascension, as well as His perfect words and deeds). He had been in glory with the Father from eternity (John 17:24), but when He became man, "in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren" (Hebrews 2:17), except for sin. As a child, He "increased in wisdom and stature" like any other human (Luke 2:52). Through diligent study (as a man), He acquired great wisdom in the Scriptures and the plan of God. After His baptism and the acknowledgment from heaven of His divine Sonship (e.g., Matthew 3:16-17), He increasingly manifested various aspects of His deity, but He still remained fully human. With respect to the time of the end, this depends in some degree on human activity. For example, He said that "the gospel must first be published among all nations" (Mark 13:10), and only God the Father could foresee just when men will have accomplished this. Although the glorified Son presumably now shares this knowledge, in His self-imposed human limitations, He did not. In no way does this compromise His deity. In our own finite humanity, we cannot comprehend fully the mystery of the divine/human nature of Christ, but He has given us more than sufficient reason to believe His Word! HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Sweetnecta: 1:37am On Mar 14, 2011 |
^^^^the presentation is similar to saying that a very tall man is a very short man, at the same time. or a truly dead man is a truly alive man at the same time, too. even the olympic committee was able to accept the south african woman id not a man. why do you continue to argue that a truly son of his mother must be a true God? and the catholic says mary is mother of god, you get bent out of shape. sometimes i wonder if people who have the thinking of olaadegbu are not really saying that they are not willing to take personal responsibility for their own deeds, as they tend to disregard the commandments of God, yet expect Him to forgive? though God Almighty has laid out the road map for each nation under the leadership of the prophet of that nation, olaadegbu decides to install a deity/intercessor instead, thinking that he is different from the hindus with their many dieties. is your God not approachable? Allah is very approachable. why would God not make the like of 'salvation' through a man 'jesus' the hallmark from the beginning, but in almost at the end? what people forget is that if this is the case, there will be injustice to the nations before Jesus because they didnt have such robust medium to hang their sins on. can anyone argue that no one in the previous nations before jesus received mercy? how about Noah who was saved with those who believed in his message? how about the Friend of God, the man known as the father of true faith? how about isaac, jacob, joseph and Moses for another set of example? yet, crimes by those who believe in Jesus can not be wiped off, at least the society does punish the criminal. why reject or dismiss the right of God while you acknowledge the right of temporal [society that is under the heaven of God]? at the same time, they claim that man is born with sin [if this is so], how can the sin be removed, if its not forgiven by the One Who created all, while jesus himself was also born [with sin, the hallmark of all that came from woman, from Adam and Eve] while Adam or Eve were not born through any woman? it seem to me at least that you cant have your cake and eat it too. one has got to be the only condition of the known quantity. it is as if the people hope that the manager [jesus] of a shift in the company is the one that they need to talk to instead of the Chairman of the organization [GOD], while there were managers before and one after him, saying to all the employees in their time; The Chairman is easily approachable from the Corporate manual that you are given upon employment. it is the Chairman who owns the rights of each manager and definitely able to show greater resolve [mercy or ability to solve the concern of the employee] than any shift manager can. Can the Chairman be a mean Boss, while the one time manager is the one you think is the kind one, at all time, even though there were many generations of workers happy with the Chairman before this manager? do we forget that the manager cant absorb the rights of the Chairman? if the Chairman decides to terminate an employee is there a manager that can keep him, while the Chairman knows about everything in His company? who is truly Powerful; a shift manager or the Chairman of the Company? |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:59pm On Mar 21, 2011 |
Jesus And The Sons Of God "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalm 82:6) This relatively little-known 82nd psalm is actually quite important. Both in this verse and in the first verse, a group of men are actually called "gods." The Hebrew word is elohim, which is almost always translated "God." (as, for example, in Genesis 1:1). It is a uniplural noun, however, with specific usage depending on context, sometimes referring also to angels or false gods, or even, as here, to human judges who act as God’s representatives in judicial decisions. The Lord Jesus Himself indicated its importance when He cited it in defense of His own claim to be the Son of God. "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of Him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" (John 10:34–36). As the great Creator God sent His word into the world through human "gods," so He finally sent His living word into the world. The Lord Jesus had not only claimed to be the Son of God; He was the Son of God. He had repeatedly demonstrated this fact in both word and deed, but His enemies still arrogantly charged Him with blasphemy. The final verse of Psalm 82 was addressed not to human "gods" but to God Himself. "Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations" (Psalm 82: . This statement can be directed to none other than the Son of God Himself. "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22), "whom He hath appointed heir of all things" (Hebrews 1:2). HMMFor more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:53am On Mar 24, 2011 |
Was Jesus God in human form? "And the glory which you gave me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one" -- John 17:22 (The Evidence Bible). |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:26am On Mar 30, 2011 |
God with Us "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD." (Genesis 4:1) Here is Eve's testimony concerning the first child born to the human race. To understand it, we need to recall God's first promise: "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; |He| shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" (Genesis 3:15). These words, addressed to Satan, promised that the woman's "seed" would destroy Satan. Thus, that seed would have to be a man, but the only one capable of destroying Satan is God Himself. Eve mistakenly thought that Cain would fulfill this promise, and when he was born, she testified: "I have gotten a man--even the Lord" (literal rendering). Over three millennia later, essentially the same promise was renewed to the "house of David," when the Lord said: "Behold, |the| virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" (Isaiah 7:13-14). The definite article reflects the primeval promise that the divine/human Saviour, when He comes, would be born uniquely as the woman's seed, not of the father's seed like all other men. His very name, Immanuel, means "God with us" (Matthew 1:23). He is "the Word . . . made flesh" (John 1:14). While questions have been raised about the precise meaning of almah (Hebrew word translated "virgin" , there is no question in the New Testament: "Behold, |the| virgin |Greek parthenos, meaning 'virgin' and nothing else| shall be with child" (Matthew 1:23). "When the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman" (Galatians 4:4). "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (Hebrews 2:14). HMMFor more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:45pm On Mar 31, 2011 |
Remembered through All Generations "I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever" (Psalm 45:17) The 45th psalm is a beautiful Messianic psalm, speaking prophetically of the coming Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. In fact, the psalm is quoted by the writer of Hebrews, calling Him "God," and promising not only eternal remembrance, but also everlasting dominion: "But unto the Son, he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom" (Hebrews 1:8, citing Psalm 45:6). But the writer also said He would be remembered in all generations. That has proved true, so far! As others have frequently noted, this man lived on earth only thirty-three years, never traveled more than a few miles from His home, never wrote a book, never raised an army, never ruled over so much as a village, let alone a kingdom, never married or had children, never enrolled for any formal education, and finally was executed as a criminal. Yet He has, indeed, been remembered through all generations following His all-too-short career two thousand years ago--and remembered with love and deep reverence and gratitude by millions of people in all nations ever since. Furthermore, though He never wrote a book, others have written innumerable books about Him, while another psalmist assured us that His words would also be preserved "from this generation for ever" (Psalm 12:7). And all this has come to pass! Herein is a marvelous thing! Indeed, He was, and is, God and this was demonstrated by His flawless character, His amazing teachings, His unique miracles, His volitional, sacrificial death, and His mighty defeat of death itself by His bodily resurrection and ascent into heaven. HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:48pm On Mar 31, 2011 |
[shadow=red,left]Daily Manna[/shadow] Neither Add Nor Subtract 31.3.11 TEXT: Revelation 22:18–21 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18,19). Jeramiah Giehl could not have been more fortunate as he recounted his salvation experience to one religious organization, Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM). Formerly a member of Jehovah’s Witnesses, Giehl, who had, at age 12, read the Bible two and half times, knew something was absolutely amiss with the religion of his upbringing. He could not understand why his former organization never believed in Trinity but denied the divinity of Jesus and brush aside scripture passages which clearly emphasize Jesus as God and co-eternal with the Father. Giehl was one out of millions who are victims of addition and subtraction from the scripture. Many pastors and preachers do not only take the scripture out of context, but also read into it extra information, thus, misleading people into some untruth. Our text states clearly that God would add plagues to those who add to scripture while those who subtract from the same would have their names taken "out of the book of life". It is dangerous to exploit the scriptures to suit individual whims. The totality of the scripture must be read and believed. Its basis clearly transcends intellectual, mental and academic frontiers. The Bible is all about God’s plan of salvation for man which is available to all. Avoid using the Bible to suit personal prejudices. Take it as sacred and refrain from adding to or subtracting from it. Those who do so will never be held guiltless by God. Thought for the day: "He who mutilates God’s word, deliberately enrage Him" For Details . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:41am On Apr 08, 2011 |
The Living Word April 8, 2011 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth" (John 1:14) This is the great verse of the Incarnation, declaring to us that the Creator of all things, the eternal Word of God (John 1:1-3) actually became a man, being "made flesh" (text). Since this verse and the following verses unequivocally refer to "Jesus Christ" (v. 17), there is no legitimate escape (though many have tried) from the great truth that the man called Jesus of Nazareth was the great God and Creator, as well as perfect man and redeeming Saviour. Furthermore, He has assumed human flesh forever, while still remaining fully God. He is Immanuel, "God with us" (Matthew 1:23). He is not part man and part God, or sometimes man and sometimes God, but is now the God-man, fully and eternally true God and perfect man--man as God created and intended man to be. See also Philippians 2:5-8 and 1 John 4:2-3. When He first became man, He "dwelt among us" for a while. The word "dwelt," however, is actually the Greek word for "tabernacled". As in the tabernacle (or "tent" prepared by Moses (Exodus 40:33) in the wilderness, the glory of God in Christ dwelled on earth for a time in a "body" prepared by God (Hebrews 10:5). We also "beheld his glory", says His beloved disciple, John. The Greek word for "tabernacle" (skene) is a cognate word to shakan (the Hebrew word for "dwell", both being related to what has come to be known as the shekinah glory cloud that filled the ancient tabernacle (Exodus 40:34).Eventually, when the Holy City descends out of heaven to the new earth, then "the tabernacle of God" will forever be "with men", and He will "dwell with them" and "be their God" eternally (Revelation 21:3). Thus God’s "God's Living Word" is now and always our living Lord! HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:16am On Apr 09, 2011 |
Pleasures at God's Right Hand April 9, 2011 "Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore" (Psalm 16:11) The 16th Psalm contains the Bible's first reference to the resurrected Christ at the "right hand" of His heavenly Father, and this is important, for there are 20 other such references that follow this one. "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool" (Psalm 110:1). This latter verse is quoted no less than five times in the New Testament (Matthew 22:44; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42-43; Acts 2:34-35; Hebrews 1:13). Then there are seven references to Christ being at God's right hand in Paul's epistles (Romans 8:34; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 1:3; 8:1; 10:12; 12:2), and seven in other books of the New Testament (Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62; 16:19; Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55-56). Lastly, "|Jesus Christ| is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him" (1 Peter 3:22). It is noteworthy that the first reference speaks of Christ's great joy at God's right hand; the last, of His great power there. One additional activity there is mentioned: "Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us" (Romans 8:34). In fact, His continual intercessory ministry on our behalf is His main activity in God's immediate presence during this present age (note Hebrews 7:25; 1 John 2:1-2; etc.). Soon He will become God's strong right hand of power, manifested until all His enemies become His footstool, and we, His people, are taken up to be with Him (1 Thessalonians 4:17). Then we shall enjoy with Him the pleasures and fullness of joy at God's right hand forevermore. HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:37pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Christ the Son of God April 16, 2011 "And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:4) The opening verses of Paul's epistle to the Romans stressed that the gospel of Christ was actually the fulfillment of that "which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures" (v. 2). This promise was centred in God's eternal Son who had promised to redeem the world from sin and death. To do this, He must become a man, "made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (v. 3), yet He also must be sinless in both nature and practice before He could become God's perfect sacrifice for sin. He must be perfect man--man as God intended man to be. He must be a "second Adam," created without sin, yet He must not fail as did the first Adam, being "in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15). He must, therefore, be miraculously conceived. "A body hast thou prepared me" (Hebrews 10:5)--a perfect body unblemished either by inherited mutations or by a sin nature genetically inherited from His parents. Then, for nine months, His body would grow, finally to be born of the virgin and to live a life "holy, harmless, undefiled" until that perfect, sinless man could be made "one sacrifice for sins for ever" (Hebrews 7:26; 10:12). But how would the world ever know that all of this was really true? How could lost sinners be assured that their Creator had now become their Redeemer? By His resurrection from the dead--that's how! He has been "declared to be the Son of God with power . . . by the resurrection from the dead" (today's text). Jesus Christ is "that man whom he hath ordained;" and of this we can be sure, because "he hath raised him from the dead" (Acts 17:31). HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:48am On Apr 19, 2011 |
The Prepared Body April 19, 2011 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me" (Hebrews 10:5). The author of Hebrews had just pointed out that, despite all the animal sacrifices offered up by the people of Israel over the centuries, "it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4). That would require the once-for-all offering of "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). But that perfect Lamb could be none other than God Himself, in the person of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. No ordinary man, however powerful or wise or morally upright he might be, could ever accomplish such a mighty task. Neither could an angel remove human sin from the world. Only God could do that, but He must also be a man in order to pay the death penalty for man's sins, then also defeat death and live forever with those who would receive Him as Saviour. He must be both eternal God and perfect man. For this mission, He must have a human body, but it must be a very special body, with no genetically inherited mutational blemishes and no inherited Adamic sin nature. Thus His great testimony: "A body hast thou prepared me." The Greek word for "prepared" is a strong word, connoting something like "made perfect" in most of its occurrences. It is used only one other time in Hebrews, in the very next chapter. "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God" (Hebrews 11:3). This correlation assures us that God "prepared" the human body of His Son, to be placed in Mary's virgin womb with the same perfect wisdom and care with which He had "framed" the worlds. Both were made "very good," perfectly designed, created, and made to accomplish His great eternal plan. HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:41pm On Apr 30, 2011 |
Jehovah April 30, 2011 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands" (Hebrews 1:10). The primary name for God in Scripture is the majestic name Jehovah, occurring nearly seven thousand times. The early Jews were reluctant to use that name, for fear of using it lightly (Exodus 20:7), and substituted the word Adonai (meaning Master or Lord) in its place. Our English versions have followed suit, using the term "Lord" for Jehovah (all caps to distinguish it from Adonai, or Lord). Thus the name Jehovah appears only four times in the King James, and causes us at times to miss the full impact of the passage. This is especially true in the New Testament quotations from Old Testament passages which used the name "Jehovah," for which "Lord" has been substituted. Now, in the English versions, the name "Lord" appears. If "Jehovah" (i.e., deity) were read instead, much richer meaning would be gathered, and it would prove beyond a doubt the full deity of Christ. Consider two examples. First, our text quotes from Psalm 102:25-27. The entire psalm consists of praise to Jehovah, and here in Hebrews it addresses the Son. If we read "thou, Jehovah, in the beginning hast laid the foundations of the earth" and realize that Jesus is the subject of the passage, we recognize that Jesus can be none other than the Creator God. Also, in Matthew 3:3, where John the Baptist fulfilled his prophesied role by teaching "Prepare ye the way of the Lord," quoting from Isaiah 40:3, we see Jesus equated with the Jehovah of the Old Testament, for Isaiah uses the term Lord, or Jehovah. In these and many other examples, we see Christ as the Jehovah Jesus, and that the Lord of the Old Testament is the Jesus of the New Testament. JDM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:21pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
The Indwelling Trinity "That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God" (Ephesians 3:16-19) This prayer of the apostle Paul applies to us as well as "to the saints which are at Ephesus" (Ephesians 1:1). Paul directs his prayer "unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (3:14), and he requests both that "Christ may dwell in your hearts" and also that the Holy Spirit would strengthen our "inner man." We know elsewhere that Christ is at the right hand of the Father in heaven (Ephesians 1:20), so that the Holy Spirit is the person who actually indwells our bodies as believers. And yet, because God is a tri-une God, if the Holy Spirit indwells us, so also must "the Spirit of Christ," or else "he is none of his" (Romans 8:9). But the prayer doesn’t end with Christ dwelling in our hearts. He further prays that "ye might be filled with all the fulness of God," and thus the Father is there too! When we accept Christ, we accept also the Father and the Holy Spirit, for the three are one, and God in all His tri-une fullness thenceforth lives in our bodies. The Lord Jesus Himself had prayed essentially the same prayer. "I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; . . . and my Father will love |you|, and we will . . . make our abode with |you|" (John 14:16-17, 23). What a priceless privilege and responsibility is ours as believers, that our triune God of creation and redemption and direction is with us always! HMM For more . . . . |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 8:20am On Sep 22, 2012 |
I had to take a break after the seventh page to weep and worship the Lord God. I'm greatly blessed finding such wonderful brethren on nairaland. Oladeegbu, Enigma, Aletheia, Imagine123, Kola Oloye (who I think has been established firmly in the Lord through the discussions here), and other wonderful Christians whose monikers I can't remember now but who participated here. This was a lovely thread to read. I can't fully express my gratitude for it and the depth of appreciation I have for it. Thank you, Aletheia, sir, for referencing the thread at "Best Forum Topics". May the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be multiplied to you all, my brothers. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:06pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: I had to take a break after the seventh page to weep and worship the Lord God. I'm greatly blessed finding such wonderful brethren on nairaland. Oladeegbu, Enigma, Aletheia, Imagine123, Kola Oloye (who I think has been established firmly in the Lord through the discussions here), and other wonderful Christians whose monikers I can't remember now but who participated here. I am blesssed that this thread has been a blessing to many folks who are sincerely seeking for the truth. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:43pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: One God |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:56am On Sep 25, 2012 |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 11:05am On Sep 25, 2012 |
Guys can you help me here. I read the following scripture and need to to understand how you see it and point out the trinity. Exodus 33:18 - 34:5-7 New International Version (NIV) 18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.” 19 And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” 21 Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.” Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.” Can you kindly help us wrench the concept of the Trinity out of this scripture master piece. Secondly : 1. how many Faces do we have here 2. how many Backs do we have here 3. how many Hands do we have here Thanks in advance. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 3:36pm On Sep 25, 2012 |
frosbel: Guys can you help me here. @bolded, Nope, Frosbel. No one can help you anymore, Frosbel. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:38am On Sep 27, 2012 |
frosbel: Guys can you help me here. As Ihedinobi has rightly pointed out, there is no point helping you. Our Lord Jesus Christ even said: "Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." -- Matthew 7:6 |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 1:22pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Thank you for the compliment Sir. But can you kindly respond to my question. Can you kindly help us wrench the concept of the Trinity out of this scripture master piece. 1. how many Faces do we have here 2. how many Backs do we have here 3. how many Hands do we have here Thanks in advance. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 1:23pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: I hope you are not this dull, surely those are singlular words , no ? Or does I will , now mean we will ? |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by Nobody: 3:57pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
frosbel: Frosbel, either haibe or debosky has already answered you about this on one of the other Trinity threads. I'll take time to find the post in which he gave you his answer. So, your post here is not quite honest. It's more inflammatory than truth-seeking. Regardless, for the sake of any other person who might be interested, I'll try to produce the response you got on one of those threads here. |
| Re: The Evidence For The Deity Of Christ. by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:45pm On Sep 27, 2012 |
frosbel: Since the words of our Lord Jesus Christ has now like water on the back of a duck to you reducing Him to a mortal man let me use the advise of John Paul Getty who said: "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." I don't want to waste my time since it appears your likes easily get annoyed when you are being answered according to the Scriptures. |
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