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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Halexgos3(m): 10:34pm On Dec 08, 2019
0monnak0da:
Ikwerre would be happy if the Igbos stop bearing Ikwerre names
You are right bro. At least Igbos bear chukwu ebuka , Emeka but ikweres will want to copy that same name but in different styles something like Emeka for Emeke Chima for chinman. Those names are fakes
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Nobody: 10:35pm On Dec 08, 2019
0monnak0da:
What obtains in Ogoniland


Since you more interested in what happens in other people's land and more concentrated in studying the geography.


I will rightly put it to you to look inwards and harness the potential of your people and that of your immediate surrounding.

Don't be overly dependent on survival by games..


Even the best countries in world continues in search and quest on how to be better.
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Halexgos3(m): 10:42pm On Dec 08, 2019
Do you know that Rivera people are not sure where they are originated from. Imagine I meet one guy called onyebuchi short form( Buchi ) and I ask him where are you from, to my surprise he said from warri
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Halexgos3(m): 10:44pm On Dec 08, 2019
I latter ask him how come he is from warri, he denies it and said he is from kwale
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Halexgos3(m): 10:44pm On Dec 08, 2019
And I finally ask him are you from Delta,he reply no that he is from Rivers State . I just fainted
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by okwusdidi: 11:03pm On Dec 08, 2019
Honestly i don't know why someone would want to be idetified as a minority.You speak Igbo and answer Igbo names but you want to be known as Edo a minority,what is so special about Edo state,i just don't get it.Even Britain a super power is finding it difficult to exit the EU.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Gandollaar(f): 11:12pm On Dec 08, 2019
[quote author=ChristineC post=84739848][/quote]Are they the Dothraki tribe? grin
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by kendological(m): 11:19pm On Dec 08, 2019
OgaBuhari:
please let your nonsense stop at Rivers and your igbos state.

don't dare drag your nonentity to Delta State.
I'm from Asaba and I'm Anioma by tribe.
Igbos do not exists after the River Niger at Onitsha..
Any igbo u see in Delta are settlers and not indigenes..
there are no indigenous Igbos in Delta.
be warned!!!
Stop disgracing yourself.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by OruExpress: 11:28pm On Dec 08, 2019
Osagyefo98:
Ikwerre ethnic nationality should bring their intellectuals and well versed linguistics and develop a highly structured language for themselves....


They should seat and fathom out a standard, structured and well organized Ikwerre language devoid of any form of Igbo language....

By so doing the sweetness of the language will be explored and transported worldwide to who cares to Listen....


We have has so many scholars who developed languages and the languages are still in use today because even before it gets to the 12th generation the language will be fully assimilated.


For Instance DIKE can be rephrased in Ikwerre language as HAJE........but not banking on already existing Dike to bastardized it as DIKNE...This is purely rubbish and timidly done, so the intellectual needs to step up their games...

Meanwhile Congratulations on your new title as your project speaks boldly for you.....but projects without the people is useless...


hahahahaah Lol at HAJE Lol.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by LZAA: 11:52pm On Dec 08, 2019
CSTR2:
Besides, looking at the physical facial features of Tonto dike, Mercy chinwo, wike, monalisa chinda, and co.

You don't need anybody to tell you that these people are as igbotic as any Igbo in the South east.
Metaphysical wee not like this

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by MetaPhysical: 11:56pm On Dec 08, 2019
LZAA:

Metaphysical wee not like this

No, i do not! Leave my Aunty alone and stop mixing her with nonsense.

Aunty Tonto, we love you! grin

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by LZAA: 12:01am On Dec 09, 2019
MetaPhysical:


No, i do not! Leave my Aunty alone and stop mixing her with nonsense.

Aunty Tonto, we love you! grin
Immhotep and GMBuharii must hear thisgrin

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Ishilove: 12:16am On Dec 09, 2019
MetaPhysical:


No, i do not! Leave my Aunty alone and stop mixing her with nonsense.

Aunty Tonto, we love you! grin
One thing I like about you is how perpetually cheerful you always seem to be. If this is how you are offline then good for those around you smiley

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by MetaPhysical: 12:46am On Dec 09, 2019
Ishilove:

One thing I like about you is how perpetually cheerful you always seem to be. If this is how you are offline then good for those around you smiley

Thank you dear. smiley
Im honored and I receive it!

Lzaa
Immhotep
Rekhina
Amatarasha
Afamed

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Baroba(m): 1:49am On Dec 09, 2019
Congrats Wike, we have enough dialects in Igboland to worry about whether Ikwerre is Igbo or not, I don't even know why people still bring up this argument, it's getting boring abeg..

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by oyatz(m): 4:37am On Dec 09, 2019
I started taking note of this division from that episode and I have met several people there after whom I assumed to be Igbos but told me they aren't even if they bear Ebuka or Amarachi.

However, you need to understand that this phenomenon of people rejecting some tribal/ethnic identities to which other wrongly give them is NOT restricted to the Igbos. It occurs through out Nigeria and indeed all over the world. It never ceases to amaze and amuse me when young Igbos on Nairaland become angry at such rejection (possibly as a form of unpalatable hangover from the unfortunate civil war).

In the North, several tribes exist that we assume are Hausa because they speak the Language and practice the cultures of the Hausa people. These peoples are quick to tell those who care to listen that they aren't Hausas.
However,the division is not a big deal in the North largely because the shared Islamic identity superceed ethnic identity as a password to entering different strata of their society.



midnighter:


Youre welcome.

So can you qualify this?

What was the reason the babe said the other chick wasnt Igbo?

Telling somebody you dont like or are prejudiced against that they are not Igbo is quite different from you yourself proclaiming that you are not an Igbo.

That Osagie troll guy goes about saying that Ebonyi state is not really Igbo; does that make any particular sense to you?

So you need to contextualise this, otherwise its purely just a funny story and not a corroboration of anything specific.
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by oyatz(m): 4:48am On Dec 09, 2019
Not necessarily sir.
There several thousands of such people in Nigeria.
You see ethnic identities are largely self-identities.
People who identify as members of a particular ethnic group are those who are WILLING to be identified as such. It doesn't matter if it's based on shared ancestries, just by shared cultures ,assimilation or in most cases a mix of all these.

External people can NOT define the identities of any group of people.



Halexgos3:
I can speak Yoruba doesn't mean am Yoruba but when I start to bear Yoruba name my brother something is wrong somewhere
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by midnighter(f): 4:53am On Dec 09, 2019
oyatz:
I started taking note of this division from that episode and I have met several people there after whom I assumed to be Igbos but told me they aren't even if they bear Ebuka or Amarachi.

However, you need to understand that this phenomenon of people rejecting some tribal/ethnic identities to which other wrongly give them is NOT restricted to the Igbos. It occurs through out Nigeria and indeed all over the world. It never ceases to amaze and amuse me when young Igbos on Nairaland become angry at such rejection (possibly as a form of unpalatable hangover from the unfortunate civil war).

In the North, several tribes exist that we assume are Hausa because they speak the Language and practice the cultures of the Hausa people. These peoples are quick to tell those who care to listen that they aren't Hausas.
However,the division is not a big deal in the North largely because the shared Islamic identity superceed ethnic identity as a password to entering different strata of their society.

1. I never asserted that the phenomenon is restricted to Igbos.

2. Such phenomena occur among different ethnic groups for different reasons. So for you to single Igbos out for querying this issue in particular doesnt make any sense. If something happens concerning a tribe, the members of that tribe have the right to discuss and talk about it. The occurrence with the north, the Kogi Yoruba, the Arabs and Amazigh, the Arabs and Kurds have all happened for totally different reasons so saying that youre amazed and amused on that basis makes no particular sense.

3. Hausa language is a lingua franca in the north; those tribes have their own native language plus hausa language that they speak on top of it to make communication easier. Down here, English is the lingua franca; we bear English names and speak English to communicate with different tribes even though we have our own native languages so that example bears no relationship with what we are discussing here, like I was saying in point (2)

4. The bolded is exactly my point; we are not experiencing any Islamic hegemony down here, in fact Igbo people are marginalised the most so what is the relevance of that example

Unless youre trying to say that some Igbo people came and dominated Ikwerre people to the point where they couldnt remember their own language again then the example youre giving is totally irrelevant.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by oyatz(m): 4:53am On Dec 09, 2019
It's the same way you accuse Fulanis of several attrocities even when the perpetrators are Bolewa, Karekare,Nok, Manga or Bachama.




BULLIONVAN4:
But regarding NL, when a thread that has a heading like, a nigerian "ifeanyi okoronkwo" was arrested in india with cocaine" the same people who are saying that ikwerres, aniomas, ndokwas, asabas are non-igbo will start with phrase like "igbos and crime are like 5and 6" "flat head pig disgracing nigeria" "ipob criminals" and so on.


you said that nothing is wrong with someone from a different tribe bearing another tribes name?? anyways i iave no problem with that but my concern is when a criminal is busted bearing a particular tribe's name, it's the people from another tribe will condemn that tribe without finding out if he is from the condemned tribe
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by oyatz(m): 5:26am On Dec 09, 2019
Sweet heart, different strokes for different folks. The histories, political evolutions and worldviews of different tribes are different, so what they take to be important will also be different.
It seems Igbos need more populations/lands through irredentism, Hausa-Fulani have gained this large population through a complex mix of cultural assimilation, religion and conquests.

The Yorubas have coalesced into a single formidable group through trade and Empire building.

Before British colonialism, the Igbos didn't build centralized large States. Their level of political organization didn't go beyond the village level. Each village operated independently of the other.

The Hausa-Fulani and the Yorubas on the other had pre-colonial Empires, City States, large kingdoms and Confederations of small States which brought most of their people under centralized political authorities and promoting a sense of nationalism.

1) There are several Nigerian languages that have gone into extinction especially in the North. E.g Tangale and Ajawa languages in Bauchi State, Gamo- Nungi in Bauchi State, Bassa-Gumma in Nigeria Start. These people switched to Hausa Language but it doesn't mean the people disappeared.

2) All over the world new tribes emerged from previously existing tribes.
E.g Seminole tribe of Florida= Native American Muscogees+ Black skaves.

Aja People of Benin Republic= Yoruba+ Fon/Ewe

Ikwerre= Igbo+ Ijaw+ Bini

Itshekiri= Yoruba+ Edo+ European traders


3) We need to do away with the use of ethnic groups as a mean of climbing the social ladder in Nigieria. People should be judged by their individual attributes instead of tribal affiliation.







midnighter:


1. I never asserted that the phenomenon is restricted to Igbos.

2. Such phenomena occur among different ethnic groups for different reasons. So for you to single Igbos out for querying this issue in particular doesnt make any sense. If something happens concerning a tribe, the members of that tribe have the right to discuss and talk about it. The occurrence with the north, the Kogi Yoruba, the Arabs and Amazigh, the Arabs and Kurds have all happened for totally different reasons so saying that youre amazed and amused on that basis makes no particular sense.

3. Hausa language is a lingua franca in the north; those tribes have their own native language plus hausa language that they speak on top of it to make communication easier. Down here, English is the lingua franca; we bear English names and speak English to communicate with different tribes even though we have our own native languages so that example bears no relationship with what we are discussing here, like I was saying in point (2)

4. The bolded is exactly my point; we are not experiencing any Islamic hegemony down here, in fact Igbo people are marginalised the most so what is the relevance of that example
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by midnighter(f): 5:34am On Dec 09, 2019
oyatz:
Ikwerre= Igbo

This is the only thing I have been saying here, so that means that we are actually in agreement.

Obowie o

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Midas01: 5:40am On Dec 09, 2019
As if you also don't disfigure English language everyday. May you also know no good in life. Nonsense!
iSlayer:
Look at how one bastard just disfigured our language. Dikne Ohna. The people doing these will know no good in life.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Midas01: 5:48am On Dec 09, 2019
Okpe is not a different ethnic group from urhobo.
niaralandtopuser:
Urhobo, Isoko and maybe Okpe language looks similar but they are different ethnic groups. if an ikwere man says he is not Igbo you can't force him. I will call attaching yourself to people low self-esteem.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:07am On Dec 09, 2019
pazienza:
Now, let's get something clear.

No well Igbo cares about Ikwerre. The only reason Igbos care about Ikwerre is the Igbo language they are mutilating.

If the Ikwerre can do the needful and revert back to their Bini language and start bearing Bini names, no Igbo would care anymore.

The ball is in Ikwerre court. Stop mutilating the Igbo language and return to your Bini language.

Show group esteem that your inferiority complex suffering Bini ancestors couldn't exhibit when they abandoned your Bini language for Igbo one, even without being colonized by Igbos.

Are you not ashamed that without the very Igbos you hate, you will have no language of your own? You are not ashamed of shamelessly copying and ridiculously trying to mask another man language as yours via re editing the language by addition and removal of consonants?

All this is just post civil war politics. Prior to the civil war. The area that is known as Ikwerre land was part of the Igbo territory known as the Diobu. They were divided to Umu okoro, Umu ibekwe, Umuola, Umuodara and one other clan(can't pronounce the name well). The area known as port harcourt the native name is igweocha so it is sad that people because of politics of division decide to abandon their identity. I was at port harcourt eight years ago and i was at an Ikwerre village and i was shocked at what i saw the village is not different at all from a typical igbo village. Every house has an Obi which is the same in a typical village in igbo heartland. I kept on asking my friend an ikwerre man and he said my brother it is because of politics. Even when the British came they actually studied the igbo and concluded that there are three classified territories where the igbo occupy
1. Midwest Igbo( stretches from Agbor to Asaba - i believe the Anioma territory is there)
2. Core central igbo(after the River Niger from Onitsha and the northern boundary at Nsukka and Abakaliki,Afikpo axis down to Arockukwu at the eastern boundary with the ibibio).
3. Niger delta or Coastal igbo(From ikwerre and Andoni who share boundary with the Kalabari and Ijaw people).

It is high time Ohaneze starts an igbo renaissance so that we can be united as a people and stop this political division.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by mercyville: 6:15am On Dec 09, 2019
Advocate500:
why don't u send them to bini to go and live there with their brothers?I thought they said Lagos is own by bini people too or the yorubas has defeated u people to own Lagos now attention has shifted to rivers state. Every tribe comes from somewhere ,just like the yorubas their origin can be traced to Benin republic, can u say that are not yuroba but Benin?I noticed anything igbo put fear in people like u?
lol
Yorubas from Benin Republic?

There were Yorubas before Benin Republic.

Dahomey which became Benin Republic was a vassal state of Oyo Empire,Yorubas annexed it,reason we have Yorubas there.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:16am On Dec 09, 2019
we know that Ikwerre as an ethnic group is related to the Igbos in culture and language, perhaps they are brothers who always disagree.

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Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by LZAA: 6:26am On Dec 09, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Thank you dear. smiley
Im honored and I receive it!

Lzaa
Immhotep
Rekhina
Amatarasha
Afamed

Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by chrisxxx(m): 6:39am On Dec 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:



The real are domiciled in your domain because we don't give a damn. May your lands you selling every now and then has made you more superior..... Lolzzzzz

I just heard it all today or is it the hunger beating u guys up is the source of ego..

Even the most influential of you guys can't beat the reach of an Igbo man..


Militancy even on social media is not superiority but outright inferiority complex...

Nobody annexes you because no one has such time.

Gather your intellectual if there exist any and let them draw up sound and structured language for you guys against the future...



Unless they are lazy as we all know laziness are domiciled there in great numbers.
The language Ikwerre people speak is African. It is not Jewish or Hebrew. From your claim of Hebrew origin it is clear your migratory populace stole our language from us. Valid argument.
Ikwerre people only occupy just four local governments in Rivers State. They are not even a state. If you want to compare achievement or whatever face the Hausa and Yoruba they are your mate.
Land sales are everywhere. Even in Iboland.
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:48am On Dec 09, 2019
chrisxxx:

The language Ikwerre people speak is African. It is not Jewish or Hebrew. From your claim of Hebrew origin it is clear your migratory populace stole our language from us. Valid argument.
Ikwerre people only occupy just four local governments in Rivers State. They are not even a state. If you want to compare achievement or whatever face the Hausa and Yoruba they are your mate.
Land sales are everywhere. Even in Iboland.



I don't argue trash............Not only stealing language but hired it.


It is quite obvious u just typing for typing sake...


Ikwerres migrated from Benin...It is time for them to start learning Benin language........which is their mother tongue............Case closed
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by chrisxxx(m): 6:53am On Dec 09, 2019
obynzo:


All this is just post civil war politics. Prior to the civil war. The area that is known as Ikwerre land was part of the Igbo territory known as the Diobu. They were divided to Umu okoro, Umu ibekwe, Umuola, Umuodara and one other clan(can't pronounce the name well). The area known as port harcourt the native name is igweocha so it is sad that people because of politics of division decide to abandon their identity. I was at port harcourt eight years ago and i was at an Ikwerre village and i was shocked at what i saw the village is not different at all from a typical igbo village. Every house has an Obi which is the same in a typical village in igbo heartland. I kept on asking my friend an ikwerre man and he said my brother it is because of politics. Even when the British came they actually studied the igbo and concluded that there are three classified territories where the igbo occupy
1. Midwest Igbo( stretches from Agbor to Asaba - i believe the Anioma territory is there)
2. Core central igbo(after the River Niger from Onitsha and the northern boundary at Nsukka and Abakaliki,Afikpo axis down to Arockukwu at the eastern boundary with the ibibio).
3. Niger delta or Coastal igbo(From ikwerre and Andoni who share boundary with the Kalabari and Ijaw people).

It is high time Ohaneze starts an igbo renaissance so that we can be united as a people and stop this political division.
Bros please stop this nonsense. Your Ibo people were on a colonization drive against the Niger Deltans before the war. The Ikwerres had been suppressed and their identity almost changed. It was not only them. Your Ibo influences spread even to far away Calabar Area. Ibo language was taught compulsorily in school.
Your influence was not only felt in south but also in far away north and west.
The mistake of your overzealous tribe in engaging in war caused you people to lose all even your conquered territory Ikwerreland.
Bros please don't provoke Ikwerre people with this history please.
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by chrisxxx(m): 6:56am On Dec 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:




I don't argue trash............Not only stealing language but hired it.


It is quite obvious u just typing for typing sake...


Ikwerres migrated from Benin...It is time for them to start learning Benin language........which is their mother tongue............Case closed
Ibo migrated from Israel it is time they started learning Hebrew.
Re: Wike Conferred With The Title "Dike Oha" Of Ikwerre Ethnic Group by Nobody: 7:11am On Dec 09, 2019
chrisxxx:

Ibo migrated from Israel it is time they started learning Hebrew.


You even has the mind snd hand to be dragging Igbo language with me.........Are you this mean?

Igbos didn't migrate from Isreal...Stop spraying fallacy and hearsay...

Ikwerre migrated from Benin and by right benin language is their right language .

Even suppose to be speaking Benin or start now to learn it.

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