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gemale.. How far nah...you still preach give these mmm guys?
Remember I bin tel u chill with ur lectures then.. E be like say this ppl Don win ooo

This kind post will never reach front page...
Cc: seun, lalasticlala how far

Admin's prejudice is bou to come to the fore

blueAgent:
The greatest conflict to ever occur in the entire Universe is the conflict  of Good &Evil(God & Satan).everyliving that has ever existed has been a partaker in this conflict .The question is how did this conflict start,why did God allow this conflict and Human suffering,did God create Evil,what is God's plan and purpose for the Universe.We will look at this issues critically with the Bible as our guide.
   In the begining God made the Heavens(Universe) and the entire hosts of Heaven Gensis1:1.the entire Universe were governed by Divine laws of God (Law of love) which ensured perfect peace and Harmony in the entire Universe.so long as all created beings acknowledged & observed and loved God's law there was peace.it was joy and delight of the Heavenly Host to fufill the purpose of their creator they delighted in reflecting his glory and praising him.that was all God required in return for his gift of freewill to all his creations.for God took no pleasure in forced obedience/alliegance.
   Sin(breaking of God's Divine Laws) originated from One (Satan/Lucifer) who was next to Jesus in Power,Honour & glory.
Using what we call symbolism God asked Prophet Ezekiel to prophicse against Satan(King of. Tyrus)

Ezekiel  28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.  28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.  28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.  28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.  28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise thou have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.  28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.  28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
From this Bible verse we can see that Lucifer was one of the covering Cherub who stood in the presence of God,he was created perfect,beautiful and had great power and Authority. but he desired the throne of God his maker rather than exalt God he desired his own exaltation.inorder to acheive his selfish desire, Satan accused God before the angels of been selfish desiring praise from his creations why not willingly to make any sacrifice for others.
He attacked God's divine laws as been too restrictive and unattainable, he used decit & lies to challenge God's authority & Soveriegnity over the Universe pretending to be fighting for all the Host of the Heaven,but he was fighting for his selfish desire to become like God. Isaiah14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!  14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:  14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.  14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.  14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;  14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
Satan accusation against God's divine law can be also be found in Job1:6-21 and in Genesis3:1
When who told Eve you shall not die,contrary to God's command to Adam and Eve that they will die if the ate from the tree of knownledge.
Genesis  3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:  3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Satan also uses false myths like Darwnism,Evolution,bigbang and all false religeons to blind people from knowning the truth about God.even in christendom Satan's influence can be seen in wrong teachings like the worship of mary,Clergy men,sunday worship,teachings of immortality of the Soul,an Eternal Hell fire,fake prophets and pastors,fake miracles e.t.c all this are done to decieve people.he promises freedom(irony bondage) claiming that people will be free if they disregard God's laws. today most drug addicts,sex perverts,money chasers,serial killers,masturbaters and other vices can attest to the fact that they are enslaved or are in bondage to sin. Legalisation of same-sex marriage,Feminism,Socialism,communilism,multiculturalism,e.t.c are part of the Devils agenda to acheive a United world government with him as the Head in rebellion against God.
From the book of isaiah14:12 we can see that it is the Devil who weakens the Nations,he is responsible for all the calamity and suffering that has ever befallen Man,
  God could have destroyed Satan than,but it could have caused most Heavenly beings to serve God out of fear rather than love.secondly Satan accusations against God could have seemed true to other heavenly beings.
God is a god of love,Justice,& truth. Deut.32:3-4
Justice requires a defendant  to present fully his case for all to see and judge.hence God allowed Satan to continue to exist and show his true nature & motive.This rebellion in Heaven by Satan lead to war and disharmony in Heaven.
In luke10:18 & Rev12:7-9 we are told that the Devil with 1/3angels of Heaven he decieved, were cast out of Heaven to Earth.
When God made man, Satan desired to enlist Man to his side in his rebellion against God.this he successed in doing by convincing Eve &Adam to eat the from the tree of knowledge of good and bad,which God forbid them not to touch or eat.
Man lost his Dominion over the Earth Genesis1:26-28  to Satan,as a result of Man's sin.Satan became the god of this world.john14:30.Satan rulership of this world is what we see today in form of wars,Chaos,famine,corruption,genocide,earthquakes,injustice,poverty,drought,disasters,racism,tribalism,rape,incest,hurricanes,e.t.c, as we read before he weakens the Nations.

It was imperative for God to allow all this to happen inorder to unreval the true nature of Satan and to show the entire Universe what the Universe will be like,when things are done outside his divinelaws,
Psalms  19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.  19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.  19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
like i said before Justice requires that a defendant(Satan) will fully present his case.
Numbers 14:18   The LORD is LONGSUFFERING and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression.God only intervenes to avoid the total destruction of man under Satan's rule.God was willingly to make the greatest Sacrifice ever made,he gave his Son's life as a ransom for the fallen world.john3:6. Since divine law prescribes death for its offenders,only the death of Jesus could rescue Humanity.
God has proved to all the Universe his love & just nature,he has proved his selfless nature by giving his life for his creations.& also that his divine laws are immutable and are there for the benefit of all the inhabitants of the Universe.

In Conclusion
God has allowed all this to happen out of his loving and just nature,so that all his creations can appreciate his gift of freewill.
God has promised to destory Satan,Sin and all the sufferings it brings.mal 4:1 & Ezeikel 28:18-19.
He has promised to do everything new.
Isaiah 65:17   For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. You can be a partaker of God's divine plan by accepting Jesus in your life today.

you fink I'm mixing things up.
this is one understandable problem with long stories, there's limited time to proof-read.
U keep saying something is in dis context only to say another thing the next minute.
I'll stil recommend James 1:26 to u..it's well

Did u just buy ur first ever smartphone today?

blueAgent:
Yes God permitted it. but it was the Devils accusation that Job served God for material blessings and not his love for God that prompted God to ask Satan in Chapter to look at Job a Man who fears God contrary to the Devils accusation that no man can observe(serve God honestly) God's Divine laws. in totality God used Job sitution to illustrate to the Devil and all humanity what it means to love or serve God.

The Question to learn here Is , Is God only good to you only in the time of blessings or would he still remain your God in the time of Adversity?

U asked for where u ascribed afflictions to God's love..
In d same vein God used plagues to attack the Egyptians, flood the earth etc to express God's love and what it means to serve him.
I hope u don't dribble urself out of this with a weak point.

P.S: u're getting something wrong in ur idea of freewill..but I'll leave that for another day..
I'm stil enjoying my time here with u on dis interesting topic of God's love

blueAgent:
You are contractdicting yourself. I never ascribed plagues to God's love.
God tested Job.not becos he doubted Job's faithfullness. no but to prove to all Job's faithfulness to God.

Let me ask you, if your School was going for a debate, who would you pick to represent you. is it a child you know and trust that he/she would not fail you or the one who is unrealiable?

U liken a debate to a torturous experience of leprosy and almost loss of life?
U're saying now that God and devil had a contest of loyalty of servants and Job was the representative?
Ur analogies are weak plz.
I,however, recall u saying God can speak for himself..
If I'm to take ur analogy literally, So why is job involved as a Debate representative between Himself and Satan.

blueAgent:
God wouldn't waste his time with this type of
argument because he is not a respecter of
"persons". He is the creator and not the
follower. God is truth and is never on the
defensive to anybody or anything.

If you look at the Book of Job verse38. when God responded to Jobs cry and Lamentation. God did not answer Job's questions concerning his condition rather God admonished Job. that shows you that God is unquestionable.

Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

young man, I'm not debating with God but you. I dint question God but ur sermon of ascribing plagues and massacres to God's love.
Pls don't miss Sunday school henceforth and more importantly, learn to observe James 1:26.
Shalom

blueAgent:

I am too small to understand God's plan and idea. infact he says in his word.
Isaiah 55:9
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my
thoughts than your thoughts.
I can only Evangelize i cannot Speak or defend God no being or Mortal Man can defend God
Only God can speak for himself.simple

U juz shot urself on the foot...quoted a wonderful bible verse which totally voids the impression u intended for this thread.

If you now, alas, agree on the emboldened, why did u assert in your epistle that God did really hideous things in the bible out of love.
Ain't you tryna blackmail him already?
U dnt understand his ways yet u speak so boldly of his reasons for some things recorded in the old testament?
Are u sure u're being led by the spirit bro?

Whisperedd:
Nice evening to you TNT, please I beg to stay anonymous. I really wonder what a woman can really do to satisfy her man.
I'm a good woman and I've been married for three years, growing up, I learnt how to be clean and be a good cook, amongst others, but owing to my part of the world(Africa) sex education was not really a THING.

Before child birth, I rem my hubby complained a lot about my sexuality being boring, but I don't really blame him.I wasn't really that experienced before marriage, I remember having sex just twice with my EX.
My hubby always complained about me not satisfying him, or maintaining a good position or initiating sex. Dear Admin, I've watched porn, adult movies, I've read sexual magazines and spoken to several friends about this.. I actually thought I had improved a bit, only for him to get upset and just last week, he called me FRIGID and hasn't touched me since then.Please advice me on how to go about this. @truth_and_tears

ADMIN: Dear poster, if you have really done all these things just to improve and satisfy you man, then I'm really sorry,for he is the Novice! If he is not OK with your positions and sex life, its his responsibility to teach you and make you comfortable even in your vices. I'm sure one if his reasons for taking you as a wife is because you are naive sexually, now he is not comfortable with his package. He should be a man, suck it up and teach you, correct you and tell you his likes and dislikes.
If he is expecting you to learn it elsewhere, then my dear, you are in for serious trouble, because believe it or not, SEX is the foundation of marriage, and if you are not giving it to him right, he will seek it elsewhere.. Talk to him dear, tell him to teach you, then free yourself, don't be stiff, be flexible mentally and physically, always improvise and enjoy the ride.

that's one selfish thing bou most of Nigerian men..
We want to marry a sexually naive or a virgin girl..who we expect to switch to a porn star overnight after the wedding.
The strangest of all..we expect her to do this on her own without our supportive input.

blueAgent:
God is not trying to impress anybody. The fact is God had to allow the whole Drama to playout on its own, inorder for Everybody to observe and learn the effects of sin.

according to u..the mass murder God did(not allowed) during Noah's time, sodom nd gomorrah, plague on the Egyptians, massacre of the amalekites(to mention a few) is not enuf for God to show love, as u put it...?
That an obedient servant is now the next best tool...?
Study ur analogies well..
U said the effect of sin.. But job's case had nothing to do with sin. Yet he was afflicted, out of love.
So the next best person to use to show an example of the effects of sin is the one obedient servant without it.. Out of love stil?
Are u following closely how uncorroborating and disconnected the points in ur debate/sermon are turning out to be?

Ur first argument was LOVE being expressed by acts extreme animosity
Now u're circumventing towards LESSONS ON EFFECTS OF SIN..

Joephat:
She is damn serious, I just need to know how I can play along with her.

evry girl was damn serious before dey eventually open their legs and later get used to it..
Before u chop rice sef...u must boil am..
If u wanna av field experience with this kinda girls..
Ensure u date more S.U's

Joephat:
I met a lady who promised to date me on the ground that there won't be Sex and She won't Visit me so as to Avoid Sex..

How can this Work out?

U can be naive sha..
Na today woman dey talk dat kind tin?
What happens to playing along?

Talk true..dis is ur first love.

blueAgent:
God was the one who intiated the conversation not the Devil. the purpose of this trials is not for God's intrest only but also the Heavenly beings who are watching the entire drama.How would the angels understand that Job can remain faithful in face of adversity if God does not allow such? God knows but do the angels or Man or the Devil know? Job's Incident was a lesson to all created beings and not just about God knowing or not knowing.

the initiator of a conversation is not a determinant to who whines who.
U seem to av one strange thought that God tries to impress ppl or angels or Satan at the detriment of the well-being of obedient servants in d name of love.
This is exactly the picture your ridiculous story of God's love paints.

blueAgent:
Yes God permitted it. but it was the Devils accusation that Job served God for material blessings and not his love for God that prompted God to ask Satan in Chapter to look at Job a Man who fears God contrary to the Devils accusation that no man can observe(serve God honestly) God's Divine laws. in totality God used Job sitution to illustrate to the Devil and all humanity what it means to love or serve God.

The Question to learn here Is , Is God only good to you only in the time of blessings or would he still remain your God in the time of Adversity?

nd d smart devil had to whine God to afflict an obedient servant of his to prove what we suppose God already knows...
Nd u call dis love?
The devil can as well whine God to wipe off the whole of Nigeria to prove a point nd God will definitely do it according to u.. Out of love
I don't quite understand the angle from which u read dat bible with u tho..

blueAgent:
If you Read the Bible you will see it was the Devil and not God that Afflicted Job.

Job2:7
So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord, and struck Job with painful boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. And he took for himself a potsherd with which to scrape himself while he sat in the midst of the ashes.

If u actually read d bible well as a good Christian. You of all ppl shud knw God specifically permitted d evil on job; an obedient servant.

blueAgent:
God passed judgement on them. God gave the Amorites over 400yrs to amend their ways and yet they refused to.
Genesis15:16
But in the fourth generation they shall come here again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete

God in all his dealings with his creations has been just and fair.
but that does not mean he cannot or does not have the right and authority to excercise his Sovereignty.



Job 4:17 (KJV) Shall mortal man be more just
than God? shall a man be more pure than his
maker?

If I'll be fair with u and hold onto ur perspective on why God caused evil on d amorites cause of their ways.
God caused afflictions on job, an obedient servant coz?

Christianity is becoming a problem to Nigeria rather than the intended.

blueAgent:
Lie.

If u go about Preaching to evry lost soul that God committed mass murder and all other strange things in the bible out of love...
You can only get goats as converts, not believers.
The problem I av with fellow xtians esp. in Naija is extreme fanatism. We just revel in scriptural grandiosity without actually passing out a msg that won't be an insult to common sense.
Keep quoting scriptures endlessly without points worthy of note.

We tend to waste productive time on such endless debates as this.
Good and evil is a subject of perception.
The perspectives that arises from these perception are propagated by our adherence to religion, philosophy, science or humanism.
One act is deemed evil in one of the aforementioned but perceived to be OK in another.
Simple.

Caricature of a judiciary

BreadandBeans:
My sister, leave moniker alone.
I wanna know why your black ass is on ur dp? U con still dey preach Christ again ?

haha..Guess Benita27 never saw that comin..
Shot herself right on d foot

Benita27:
Do you really need drugs?.

Give your life to Christ my friend!.

Ur profile pic is strange.. Comin from someone with ur kinda advise to gv his life to Christ..

Just imagine, the next tin on the recession agenda this dude is got now is to share cars to ppl who av no use for it.
I pity Nigerians who vote, discuss passionately nd give politics their productive time tho

Nigerians are bitter at heart by default. Two young men are avin a nice time with hearty jokes after a good game. You carry ur yam head and give it another meaning. Looking for strife where there's none

Chebi na mimiko?
I bliv d guy die
Guys shud just checkout the road from owo to Ikare..that road is smoother that Beyonce's skin..
smh

Lionize:
Copied from whatsapp

*WHY I AM HAPPY THAT MUHAMMADU BUHARI BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA*!!!

*Today, I want to take time and thank GOD for making Buhari the president of this country*.

*At first, I did not understand why GOD allowed it to happen. But now I understand and I HAVE SEEN reasons why we should accept his Presidency*.

*Had it been Buhari did not become President*:

*1. We will think that by now fuel will be N45 per litre*.

*2. We will think that by now N1 will be equal to $1*.

*3. We will think that by now three million jobs would have been created*.

*4. We will think that by now unemployed youths would have been receiving #5,000.00 stipends*.

*5. We will think that by now pupils would have been getting at least a meal(including fruits) in school*.

*6. We will think that by now Buhari would have made his assets and liabilities public*.

*7. We will think that by now maternal and children healthcare services would be free*.

*8. We will think that by now Boko Haram will be a thing of the past*.

*9. We will think that by now all corrupt leaders will be in jail*.

*10. We will think that by now Electricity will be 24/7*

*11. We will think that by now Nigeria will be the Greatest and strongest Economy in the world*.

*12. We will think by now a bag of rice would have costing N5000 with a boom in Agriculture*.

*13. We will think by now Nigeria would have recovered all looted funds*.

*14. We will think by now Nnamdi Kanu would have declared Independent State of Biafra*.

*15. We will think that by now Nigeria would have gotten 3 standard working Refinery*.

*16. We will think that by now Nigeria would have stopped importation of fuel*.

*17. We will think by now office of the First Lady will no longer exist*.

*18. We will think that by now National Assembly salary would have been cut down to 50%*.

*19. We will think that by now 720,000 jobs by the 36 states in the federation yearly (20,000 per state) would have been created*.

*20. We will think that by now there would be permanent peace in the Niger Delta*.

*21. We will think that by now Chibok girls would have been rescued*.

*22. We will think that by now the government would have started creating additional middle-class new home owners (about two million) in the first year and one million annually thereafter*.

*23. By now everybody must have been blaming Goodluck Jonathan and calling him clueless*.

*The list is almost endless..."*

*This is Nigeria of 2016*

*The Minister of Agriculture studied French*

*The Minister of Education studied Accounting*

*The Minister of Solid Minerals studied International relations*

*The Minister of Power studied Law*

*The Minister of Communications studied Law*

*The Minister of Transport studied English*.

*Minister of Labour and Employment studied Surgery*


*Minister of Budget and national planning studied law*

*Minister of Foreign Affairs studied Medicine*

*Minister of Petroleum studied Law*

*IGP studied Agriculture*

*MD of Nigeria Ports Authority finished NYSC four years ago*

*I didn't say anything ooo but I hope u know why our economy is on recess*.

*THANKS*

If the minister of education studied accounting. How come he's a neurosurgeon.
U need cane mahn

idupaul:
I realised recently that the only person that had significantly destroyed Nigeria was Buhari .

twice

Jasi7:
The thing is, Sergei doesn't only drive traffic to his site bro, look at it this way...when the scheme started and needed people to provide help, who did you think the money was paid to?(I mean the very first payment made).

That is one, secondly, as people provide help and get help, MMM agents can at any time decide that "ok, today we need #500,000" and they will get into the system as participants and request certain people to provide help to someone(who is obviously an MMM agent) and when they payment is done, they will quietly walk out of the system from their on end and request another set of participants to provide help to those set of people who provided the help of #500,000, and this is very possible so long as people who wish to provide help surpass people wish to get help. It's that simple!

what makes you fink the banks and govt u so trust don't do that as well.
Or do u need a lecture on why banks get into badt debt situations and subsequent merger and acquisition deals?

We keep seeing things dat are far from nigh and call em end days..
Every acclaimed prophet of God claims to see similar revelations sinx the early 1900's..
When world war 1 happened,..they say it's d end time..
The world went beyond it..
World war 2 stil came and went off too...
Year 2000.. This one had lots of prophets claiming endtime visions on it..
Next
Most anticipated year 2012 too..
Haba..

Una no dey rest with end time theories under the guise of spirituality?