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Joysmith2:
U calling pple goat,,,wat re u, idiotic fool...goat is better Dan u..mumu

ok...one of the she-goats members spotted...

olihilistic:
99%
Of all the male in the world must have attempted masturbation knowingly or unknowingly.
Agreed, I'm speaking from experience.

well...am part of dat 1% u refused to acknowledge

sod09:
Na only u waka out
Sorry church sef fan get vvip, vip and regular seats

yea..
Christ embassy

PapiNick:
It's up to you what you like or not. Your opinion is strictly yours bro

what u av, young man, is not an opinion.. But absence of conscience

SlimmB:
That dude never break bottle for your head yet to dey talk say he too dey vex...
What's really the difference between marriage and serious date abi na serious relationship
nothing bad if she sleep around ke but think na, shey Father Abraham wife sleep with another man abi na the wife yarn the husband to go Bleep one of the maid

U dey mind the mumu...
Forming cassanova..calling it virtue

joyContraMundum:
Even though, I don't like the prophet, I don't think I can blame him for making such statement. What do you think? You mean when the herdsmen come attacking, they should raise up their hands, chanting "Ohm!", blow kisses at them, and make out for a hug, screaming "One Love"? You can't love menace away, you deal with it. Someone's coming for your head, and you're stretching out a flower? They'll either chop your head off or give you a bullet.

I av nothing against that man or whatever he says..it's always his opinion which he's definitely entitled to.
My problem is with d goats in his church dat call demsefs members, who know nothing or won't do nothing about their lives until he speaks..
If he wakes up tomorrow again and say it's not good..they'll still say yes, he's right..
Religion has really done more harm to education than illiteracy in dis country.
Naija Christianity has made men rever men of God Dan God himself.

PapiNick:
Bro all guys are not thesame OK, I am not saying am in support of it so don't quote me. I just said something about my own self so you can give your own point of view without directing it to me.
I only did all that because we weren't married and I know for sure I will not want to cheat on the Lady I get married to. These are two different things ok

U too dey vex sef..
I dint posit that scenario to u in a marriage situation too.
I'm saying nothing bad if she sleeps around too when u guys are not married mehn.. As long as she loves and respects u
She sleeping around when u guys are married and when not married are two different tinz mehn. As long as she loves and respects u..it doesn't matter
So nothing bad she does same Cox u both ain't married as u did too

Abi no be so?

PapiNick:
I feel you bro. I dated my ex for a very long time more than 10 year. Our relationship was so cool because it was not based on sex at all. However there were some girls that do come around you knowing fully well you have a serious relationship but they just want to have some fun with you and they also want it to be a secret. We just have fun and no strings attached and it never affected my relationship.

bro..u're right jaree..ur babe can cheat on u with anyone.. Even ur brother sef..
As long as she respects and loves u..
That doesn't mean she's a slut..
Abi no be so?

blueAgent:
Like i said show me prove of freewill without consquences?

I said this, which u quoted too:

Freewill definitely has consequences but these consequences must be independent of the influence of the person givin it, if dat will is indeed free
____________

Yet u ask me dis strange question?
U're jux talking but not listening..
More like u confused already.


Ur Comprehension skills is somewhat questionable

blueAgent:
Is there any prove that freewill means been free to choose without consquences?

relax, u need to stop being pensive and read well to comprehension.
I stated and will stil emphasise.
Freewill definitely has consequences but these consequences must be independent of the influence of the person givin it, if dat will is indeed free


Or manipulation is the case..

blueAgent:
Proverbs26:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like unto him.

haha..now I'm a fool..lolz
The holy spirit is obviously at work in u..

blueAgent:
God does things for his own pleasure not for the Devil. God allowed jobs trail for his glory.he was not trying to impress the Devil. but just for his glory.

even the grief that the bible says he may cause us is for his pleasure?

This is enuf to derail weak converts, you're not always conscious of what u say at all mahn..

Now, u r saying something new again..
Evry negative thing God allows is no longer out of love, but to show forth glory.

What an emulative way to show glory, this is, according to you..

blueAgent:
I laugh at you. you are twisting words to boost your ingnorance and you feel you know anything about God.

Proverb 16:25, “There is a way that
seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death.”

there you go again..u're accusing me of ur sin..
U started dis thread with ignorant assertions u claim to knw bou God..dis was wat started d debate.
Shamefully, u started dribbling ur way out of ur own assertions on what u claimed to knw bou God or his intent for whatever he does., only for u to claim I'm playing on words...
Ur next defense is to play d victim card.. Lolz

blueAgent:
I laugh at you. you are twisting words to boost your ingnorance and you feel you know anything about God.

Proverb 16:25, “There is a way that
seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death.”

good, so u're the one who knows d right way..nd on itz me on d wrong one chey..
Spiritual over confidence dey wori u..
I bliv u must av come across 1cor 10:12

blueAgent:
It is obvious You don't know the definition of freewill,

voluntary choice or decision <I do this of my
own free will>


the ability to choose how to act.

the ability to make choices that are not
controlled by fate or God
FREE WILL Defined for Kid

Freewill means having liberty to choose beteen good and bad. that is the definition.
You. are expecting to make choice without consquences? I laugh at you.

If the consequences of a choice is not independent of the powers of the one giving it..
It's not..freewill
DAts pure marketing strategy.

I tell u dat u're free to enter one of two rooms to do what u like, meanwhile I've specifically prepared a fire to burn u to Ashes if u go into one .. Nd you'll tel me I av given u free will?
...when I'm well aware that ur knowledge of a fire being there will definitely control ur ability to choose which room to go?
Definitely ur ability to choose has been controlled by the virtue of the consequences I invented for u..
The independence of choice is already invalid.

U chose to do Good coz u wanna avoid hell(prepped by God)

blueAgent, is ur choice not controlled by God already?
Ur choice is no longer voluntary coz u r playing by some rules and pretend it to be ur actual choice when u know deep down its not what u had in mind.

You're missing d point, the problem is not d consequence, there z a law of cause and effect in place already dat acts independently.
U cant invent a consequence for my choice and say u av given me freewill.

Lamentations 3:32 acknowledges dat God may cause us grief, why dint God choose to allow us decide if we want d grief or not before afflictin us without our consent?

Freewill is also meant to be able to decide ur fate again by d liberty of ur choices..lolz..but job dint choose to be afflicted by diseases u knw..his freewill was abused don't u fink?

Mehn..semantics, it's not something u play with in a debate, u must understand the logics of composition or you'll never win, even if ur opponent is dull.

U had berra stick to ur quotation of irreconcilable bible verses nd avoid a philosophical debate, lolz..it's not ur calling..
I'll rather spare u in dis regard nd go back to d status quo of our debate.

blueAgent:
How is it contractdictory. so becos of love, you expect God will allow Adam and his descendants to go unpunished? is like you mistake God for Mortal Man.

where did i write that all sufferings are becos of God's love or tria

U asked for this, in an attempt to deny ur prior perspective, and I answered u with..


In Conclusion
God has allowed all this to happen out of his loving and just nature,so that all his creations can appreciate his gift of freewill.

Yet u stil asked for a contradiction in ur assertions, a second time?
We're both typing in our lingua Franca bro, not Swahili.
Funny enuf u claim I craftedly refused to answer a question I explicitly put to u in emboldened quotations of urs.

I'm beginning to fink I'm in a debate wit more than just U.

blueAgent:
I laugh at your ingnorance. you think playing with words will make you win a debate?

I asked you a question and you craftly refused to answer me.

why do God feel he had something to prove to Satan in Job, if there was no intention to impress...?

Yet u say, God doesn't or wasn't seeking to impress Satan or anything.
I told u, the picture u painted of that narrative shows Satan whined God and succumbed, hence he afflicted job.
You disagreed, saying God wasn't whined.
You, stil, later reiterated that it was a contest Btw them..
Which must av erupted coz Satan did d whining..
Remember, u said God initiated the conversation,
nd you stil claim he dint av a motive to impress.


Speaking from both sides of ur mouth

blueAgent:
You are too confused to educate anyone.Love without freewill is not love.

I want to kill, I chose not to, for the fear of hell.
Nd u call dat freewill...
lolz.
Young man...u av no idea what freewill is... I refuse to educate u on dat...goto to dat thread I recommended for u or forget issues..case closed

blueAgent:
Give examples

I don't need to flood u with examples. You'll get ur answer from The following question.
Is evry grief experienced by an individual always deserved?

If ur answer is NO as shud be .. Whatever examples u ignorantly and naively asked me for earlier lies in ur reasons for that NO.

blueAgent:
How is it contractdictory. so becos of love, you expect God will allow Adam and his descendants to go unpunished? is like you mistake God for Mortal Man.

God allowed the evil that befell Adam take place coz of Love, even tho he saw it from the start
..no be so?
Search nairaland for a thread on freewill..I contributed actively in dat thread alongside others..
You'll learn something new..
DAts if u're ready to do away with bigotry

blueAgent:
Grief can be punishment for ones sin.
where did i write that all sufferings are becos of God's love or tria[/b]l?

[b]Satan rulership of this world is what we see today in form of wars,Chaos,famine,corruption,genocide,earthquakes,injustice,poverty,drought,disasters,racism,tribalism,rape,incest,hurricanes,e.t.c

It was imperative for God to allow all this to happen inorder to unreval the true nature of Satan and to show the entire Universe what the Universe will be like,when things are done outside his divinelaws,

------------------

In Conclusion
God has allowed all this to happen out of his loving and just nature,so that all his creations can appreciate his gift of freewill.
--------------

All above are in ur very own words. Culled from ur oxymoronic epistle..

You're one easy man to debate with I must confess..

blueAgent:
I was never frustrated. i wrote what i believe 100%.

berra don't fight ur sweet friend out of dis frustration..she's on ur side oo
Juz calm Dan nd let's keep enjoying our debate

blueAgent:
And if it was not a contest. kindly explain to us what transpired in Job 1.

another suicidal expression yet again..u really need to sharpen ur debating skills..

An individual gets into a contest with a motive to impress either the spectators or the opponent.

But, u said God was not trying to impress anyone in job's case, that God doesn't impress or had in mind to do dat.
Nau, u acknowledge it was a contest?
So why do u think God got into a contest with an idiot like Satan, if not to impress?
Someone he created himself.

U cnt even define ur position bro..lolz
I keep swaying u back and forth

blueAgent:
Grief can be punishment for ones sin.
where did i write that all sufferings are becos of God's love or trial?

but in a case where it is not?


Out of love baa?

kullozone:
How can such write up convince anyone
Infact, you only exposed your god's selfishness and wickedness... Haba! Where do we even start from now?
Religion has ruined planet earth, I'm going to mars

same thing a christian brother told him but won't listen. The type that brings ignominy to the name of God nd Christian-fold.

blueAgent:
You really sound like a kid. no wonder your points are baseless without direction no one. can make out your point or any sense in it.

good..now I'm bringing out the real man behind the ignorant sermon

blueAgent:
it is Obvious you don't understand Bible verses.this Bible verses you quoted has nothing to do with me,becos the Bible asked us to proclaim the word of God which i did with my article .the Bible also instructs us to glorify God in our hearts & words.

proclaiming the word of God erroneously with irreconcilable and contradictory expressions in your statements can never be what God sent u. Juz coz u keep rendering a barrage of bible verses with ur proclamations doesn't make u Godsent or spirit filled.

blueAgent:
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear

always try to quote appropriate bible verses strictly or atleast loosely in the context of what u assert. How does this apply to ur debate of your allusion of God's permission of evil upon us to Love?
This verse u quoted is meant to defend urself against adversaries who know not Christ in u. Seein you undergo difficult situations, yet with hope.

Peter instructs us to be ready to answer the question our life should inspire: "How can you be so hopeful in such difficult circumstances?"

Peter anticipates people will become curious. Hopefulness and joy are starkly different from the normal human response to suffering. So much so that people will be eager to understand it. What will we say when they ask? We must be prepared to give our defense, to make the case for faith in Christ. We need to reject the cultural pressure to keep our beliefs to ourselves. Instead, believers should openly share the good news of redemption through faith in Christ.

This verse u rendered was grossly misapplied

blueAgent:
1 Peter 3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
This bible verse talks about one suffering for his/her righteousness

good, this applies to the Case of Job suffering for well doing as recorded in the bible. This means u've explicitly acknowledged suffering in christendom. Now, you shifted to the will of God being so, no longer, God allowing it out of love and just nature as u put earlier. I bet You'll attempt to entwine both, saying God's will is love always.
Yea, u right, this means it's his wish to do so if countless number of children and mothers suffer for nothing, worldwide. No food to eat or places to live. Some even die In their situation. Humanity(irrespective of their religion factions or belief system) do d best they can to help this ppl suffering for either well-doing or evil-doing which nobody but God knws, as far as we'd like to bliv it's his will.
But why da heck will u allude this totally to God's love and Just nature? This is pure fanatic Christianity.
U find it easy to spill these Ignorant phrases probably coz u find urself In a better standard of life compared to those undergoing the real hellish circumstances of life that u use as basis for ur faith.

blueAgent:
This verse tells us that God does not will purpose to cause grief for the sake of his pleasure no. but to enhance our faith.

enhancement can only apply to a preexisting entity. How bou someone who doesn't even knw the Christian faith, struggling to survive, children that have known suffering all their lives, ppl who wake up not knowing if they'll live thru dat day. I guess their inexplicable suffering is to enhance a faith that wasn't there in d first place?
I guess u've lived all ur life in d corners of a church. You don't read news, goto UNICEF, WHO, USAID websites and see suffering, then you'll fink well before u brag in ur thankful circumstances. There's nothing as honorable as when a christian learns to bridle their tongue whenever necessary. You must fink u're now a bible scholar to try to attempt answers to questions humanity have been waiting on God to answer Convincingly for countless centuries.
Let God be God, and do ur job of serving him in purity and truth, dont attempt to bring taint to his name with ur fanatism

Even d best of preachers do their possible best to steer off of the most controversial debate ever in christendom
The concept of Good and Evil with respect to God's will.
It'll forever be an unfinished business.

blueAgent:
Lamentations 3:31 For the LORD will not cast off for ever: 3:32 But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies. 3:33 For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.

you agree once again that God will cause grief and later av compassion due to love?
If love is what God uses to end the grief he may afflict us with out of his will. What then prompts God to cause the grief in the first place. Love too I presume as u've said in all ur opening article uh?

chyzoo4u:
Whoever knows this guy @attached should please check if he still have head.

sexxkillz...how body....
I hear say Mmm is back
Have u gone for ur own overdue brainwash and treatment for mouth diarrhoea?

The next comment I see u drop now is likely involve the word peppersoup as always.

Bobo121:
Supposing that first guy wrote and sang a song with this same passion, he would have been popular by now.

If he's not popular at d moment..wud u av heard of him at all?