frosbel: of course he would , two sides of the same coin, Islam and Catholicism.

maclatunji: Point of correction Pope Francis, you can only have a dialogue with Muslims not Islam. Outside of that error, you have spoken well as is expected of a leader. However, I will add that people study Islam objectively and independently not through hearsay or what haters say.

idnoble135:
OMG!!! Neva knew dat! Sory 4 dz poor folks who wit abundant evidence stil preferred a lie.

maclatunji: Point of correction Pope Francis, you can only have a dialogue with Muslims not Islam. Outside of that error, you have spoken well as is expected of a leader. However, I will add that people study Islam objectively and independently not through hearsay or what haters say.

striktlymi:

What we keep getting wrong is expecting God to work with our time-table. God is a sovereign and he dose things when he wants to...I am human and I can choose to keep an answer to a puzzle to myself without fear or favour...God can do the same!


#Thread has hit the homepage, might be going off soon.

frosbel:

I am addressing the title of the post btw and not his entire speech which has a lot of good parts.

The crux of the matter is dialogue for what purpose ? Are Muslims going to believe that Jesus Christ is the WAY , the TRUTH and the LIFE ? If no , then there is no room for dialogue but prayer and preaching of the word of God to the lost , day and night.

St.Paul and co did not compromise with false religions or negotiate with them, they preached Christ and him crucified , they did not receive the applause and adoration from government or the false religion of the day, instead they were jailed, whipped, cursed, abused, rejected and killed.

There is no other way Pal but Jesus.

Any person who suggests otherwise is a wolf and hireling and careth not for the sheep.

Yes we should love all people, help all people with our resources, care for the poor and speak out against oppression, but at the end of the day, the most important thing is eternal life and freedom from sin , to deny people of this , is wickedness personified.

Alfamann: unfortunately for you mr latunji, i am not a christian and much less a caholic so i am not obliged to have any dialogue with crazy people like you.

So go back to your cave and don't answer me so as not to disturb my guinness and bacon lunch.

Danice253:

Seriously i dnt no y ppl find it difficult 2 undrstand simple grammer. The Pope is seeking 4 diague wit d muslim faithful cos he sees dem as human beings not christian antagonists. As such his interest is for peace nd unity 2 govern the world

xtayle:

GBAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

frosbel:

Trying to educate the gullible on what the catholic church means when they say dialogue, it has nothing to do with telling them ,out of love, that they need to believe in Jesus to receive eternal life or they will be forever lost.

The catholic dialogue from experience and practice is an all embracing ecumenical attempt to conglomerate all religions under one umbrella in the name of peace and humanity, while caring less for the integrity and honor of the gospel.

Peterjosh: There are so many questions to ask God in the end

uplawal: Awon Musulumi tio ni itiju wo lo losi inauguration pope?only the hyocrite muslims who don't have an iota fear of Allah would be there,spit out

How can a practicing Muslim go where they profess Hail Mary Mother of God,Naudhubillah.

deols:

Maybe because the catholics or at least the pope is aware.

The gospel(as u mean it) has nothing to offer anyone. They just want to present something else, that may really serve humanity.

Without the shahada(monotheism in Allah and the prophethood of MuhammadS.A.W) though, it is still like pouring water in a basket

frosbel:

exactly, Catholics and their Mary worship, almost on the same par with Muslims who revere Mary to almost godlike status.

Same , all over.

Come to Jesus and receive life , stop lingering in the valley of death.

frosbel:

There is ONE God , to this we agree, but there is only ONE way to get to this God and it is not through religion or the traditions of MEN, but through the Person of Jesus Christ, who is the Son of the living God and the savior of all men who call upon his name.

deols:

Muslims putting mary in godlike status?

I always have a problem with people who talk outta ignorance.

And you have all an education needs. Mary, godlike in Islam? It must be the most ignorant thing I have read on NL.

The angels said to Mary: "God [Allah] bids you rejoice in a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary. He shall be noble in this world and in the world to come, and shall be one of those who are favored. He shall preach to men in his cradle and in the prime of manhood, and shall lead a righteous life." [Note 59]

It is interesting to note that in the Koran, Jesus is almost exclusively referred to as "Jesus son of Mary," rather than "Son of God." The Koran vehemently denies that Jesus is the Son of God, yet it holds both Jesus and Mary in high esteem. More important to our context, is the fact that Mary is arguably more highly honored than Jesus in the Koran and in the Muslim world. The Muslims, like the Catholics, refer to her as "Our Lady." She is also venerated as a pure and holy saint in the Islamic world.

Furthermore, Mary is mentioned no less than 34 times in the Koran. In addition, the 19th surah (chapter) of the Koran is named after Mary. Based on these facts alone, it is apparent that "Our Lady" is surely seen as blessed above all women by orthodox Muslims. In addition, consider the following three quotes taken directly from the Koran:

And remember the angels' words to Mary. They said: "God has chosen you. He has made you pure and exalted you above womankind." [Note 60]

The Messiah, the son of Mary, was no more than an apostle: other apostles passed away before him. His mother was a saintly woman. [Note 61]

Whereupon he [Jesus] spoke and said: "I am the servant of God. He has given me the Book and ordained me a prophet. His blessing is upon me wherever I go, and He has exhorted me to be steadfast in prayer and to give alms as long as I shall live. He has exhorted me to honor my mother and has purged me of vanity and wickedness" [Note 62]

Muslims and Apparitions of Mary

While it is apparent that Mary is considered by adherents of the Islamic faith to be the most blessed woman ever, does this necessarily imply that Muslims would respond to Marian apparitions or signs and wonders as many Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians have done? Would Muslims listen to these apparitions and heed the messages? In order to answer this question, we can consider an apparition of Mary that appeared to millions of Muslims in the 20th century.

At a Coptic Orthodox church in Zeitoun, Egypt, a suburb of Cairo, a remarkable series of events occurred. A woman that onlookers believed was Mary, appeared in the form of an apparition, performing signs, wonders, and healings. This same woman appeared several nights each week for years. The vast majority of spectators were Muslim. Here is a description of the events surrounding the Zeitoun apparitions:

The Zeitoun apparitions… were seen by everyone present… the persons present at apparitional events there varied from several thousand to over two hundred thousand per night. Total witnesses perhaps numbered into the millions.

Several nights each week, thousands of Moslems (who constituted most of the crowds) fell to their knees on prayer rugs spread wherever space permitted, and wept before the magnificent, wondrous, glorious form of Our Lady from Heaven. All witnesses agree that the Lady seemed to be composed of light that usually was intense, yet lessened occasionally.

The apparitions of "Mary, the Mother of Jesus" were serenely animate, moving from one side of the church roof to another, as if to provide a direct view to all the surrounding throng, from which many called to her to come their way. She often responded to the singing or chanting of the crowd, appearing to bow in acknowledgment, greeting and blessing. Sometimes she made gestures of prayer, or held out and waved what appeared to be an olive branch. At other times, thousands watched her radiant form, which was often aglow with bluish white light, as she held in her left arm what certainly appeared to be the baby Jesus. The Zeitoun apparitions seemed to affect all witnesses, including hundreds who were spontaneously healed. Many such cases have been documented by Dr. Shafik Abd El Malik, M.B., B.Ch., M.D., Faculty of Medicine, Ain Shams University, who headed a commission of seven doctors to study the miraculous cures. [Note 63]

Source

gboss4sure:

We have studied islam with what we saw with our eyes, we didn't just hear it we have seen and experienced what islam can do to a nation. So what ever opinion we have about islam is due to the activities of islam in the world at large.

deols:

The son part can never be logical. A man saving fellow man neither.

Say something better jorh

Godjone: the muslim umah by way of fortitude, recognition, mature human isight and tolerance, have not since the inuaguration of this new pope, issue any statement in form of congratulatory massage. But here is my noble and peaceful pope calling for dialogue with them. What an examplary life! Papal Francis, may God guide you.

uplawal: Awon Musulumi tio ni itiju wo lo losi inauguration pope?only the hyocrite muslims who don't have an iota fear of Allah would be there,spit out

How can a practicing Muslim go where they profess Hail Mary Mother of God,Naudhubillah.

peteregwu: i dont even like the new pope. h is always looking forward to combining islam with christianity. its not possible. the same purpose his predecessors followed. this is unbiblical and uncalled. tis an abomination. what is business with muslims. pls can somebody tell me what is wrong with the pope. why did say muslims worship the true God. ths is just nonsense and deception. if you dont believe me, pls click to open below...just read and dont be deceived. theg are planning to form a one world religion. their aim is to make way for antichrist to come in and rule, which anyone who does not bow to the antichrist(satan) will be killed. you still dont believe me right? dont worry things will begin to unfold very soon. the blible says, " their is nothing hidden under the sun that will not be exposed."

http://christiannews.net/2013/03/21/pope-francis-meets-with-muslim-jewish-leaders-praises-atheists-as-precious-allies/