Ubenedictus: hahahaha, you are deluded. I repeat i'm a catholic christian, if catholic cant be xtians neither can protestant, protestanism is an offshoot of catholicism.
I wonder at you delusion.

vedaxcool:

You would notice I have refuse trading words with him, ever since he was exposed as telling lies against Pope Francis, we know before u guys the sort of man he is one whose fanaticism short circuits every functional brain cell in his head time to time, the same individual back in 2011 made a living attacking Islam and now unfortunately for u catholics it is your turn who next, people like frosbel are found in every religion, they think they know all, and hence act irrationally regardless of the sort of evidence in his face!

When religions dialogue with one another they do not necessary accept each others validity rather they accept their rights to coexist with each other and live in peace unfortunately our mr. Know all can't seem to get this simple fact!

frosbel: Another bomb gone off in Kano and we should have dialogue ?

Peace and Violence cannot belong to the team.

To associate Jesus the Prince of Peace with the perpetrators of war and violence is a big NO NO.

"Deliver us (me) from those who do iniquity And save us (me) from men of bloodshed." - Psalm 59:2

maclatunji:

That is what you have been told and never bothered to research independently. We don't 'practice the bible'. Islam is the religion that is ordained for man since Adam was created, the story of Abraham is in the Quran and significantly different from the Bible.

Your ignorance is exposed when you say Isa (Jesus) is Isaac (AS). It was actually Ishmael that was to be sacrificed not Isaac (AS).

peteregwu:

is like you have not been reading most of the post here. we are disputing about religion. we are condemning what pope is doing, he who claims to be a christian, which also brought about muslims arguing with us. an point of correction, Jesus is the only way an the only way of receiving mercy from God. God cant show mercy to anyone except through His Son. if anyone does jot believ on the son, the person is doomed forever, no matter his charity donation. if the person like, let him feed the whole nation.

John 3:16-18 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

peteregwu:

is like you have not been reading most of the post here. we are disputing about religion. we are condemning what pope is doing, he who claims to be a christian, which also brought about muslims arguing with us. an point of correction, Jesus is the only way an the only way of receiving mercy from God. God cant show mercy to anyone except through His Son. if anyone does jot believ on the son, the person is doomed forever, no matter his charity donation. if the person like, let him feed the whole nation.

John 3:16-18 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Ubenedictus: and what is d pope doing that is worth condemning? Since when did a call for dialogue become a condemable thing?

frosbel:


"You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons." - 1 Corinthians 10:21

Jesus has nothing to do with false religion.


@ Brethren,

do not be deceived !!!

davidylan: You cannot dialogue with a man determined to destroy you.

peteregwu:

which one be bull shit now? any cow or ram shit for your house? where bullshit take come from now? who told you that? my friend there are many churches then that you know not of. just because catholic is claiming to be the only church in existence does not mean it is the true church. Jesus says, "i will build my church and the gate of hell shall not prevail over it." the church is not the building according to the bible, the church is every individual christians following the words of the bible dully. so catholic church na babalawo church...cos they worship idol(images) and the pray with chaplets. Jesus says, "by their fruits you shall know them."

frosbel:

exactly, Catholics and their Mary worship, almost on the same par with Muslims who revere Mary to almost godlike status.

Same , all over.

Come to Jesus and receive life , stop lingering in the valley of death.

peteregwu:

i dont know why you in support of pope, it could b that you are a muslim or catholic. now please read carefully the statement that pope made below,

He then praised the Muslim leaders that
had also come for the meeting, remarking
that they were men who “adore the one,
living, and merciful God and who call upon
Him in prayer.”

hmmmm

“I might not believe in God, but I believe
that Catholics and atheists can work
together just as all of humanity can work
together towards equality and justice when
we put the needs of modern people first
and the arcane doctrine second,” he
concluded.

A 'Pope' who dosn't believe in God?!
Hummmm...!

ceejayluv:
So who are you to determine the "true" church? Oh, cos your "pastor" told you, right?? Are you wiser than a billion Catholic members worldwide??
I'm not a Catholic chauvinist, I'm more of a freethinker but born into a Christian (Catholic) family. I'm all for religious tolerance and avoidance of religious condemnation. All religions started some time and more "religions" (more like philosophies and beliefs) will still spring up. In the next 1000 years or so, it's possible christianity May take a backseat. I call it a religious "darwinism"... That was how christianity and Islam spread- by displacing other religious beliefs by violence or craftiness or influence...
Brother, don't give bigoted arguments. have a broader view and you'll be less venomous in your utterances.

peteregwu:
i dont know why you in support of pope, it could b that you are a muslim or catholic. now please read carefully the statement that pope made below,

He then praised the Muslim leaders that
had also come for the meeting, remarking
that they were men who “adore the one,
living, and merciful God and who call upon
Him in prayer.”

hmmmm
“I might not believe in God, but I believe
that Catholics and atheists can work
together just as all of humanity can work
together towards equality and justice when
we put the needs of modern people first
and the arcane doctrine second,” he
concluded.

A 'Pope' who dosn't believe in God?!
Hummmm...!

peteregwu: No man is worthy or holy except Jesus(God).
Romans 3:10 KJV. "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"


Without Jesus, we are nothing andbour righteousness is like a filthy rat before Him. Isaiah 64:6 KJV
But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Jesus is truely and the only one worthy off all worship an praises. And the only one that has power to forgive sin.



Revelation 4:8 KJV
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him ; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.



Revelation 4:11 KJV
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

peteregwu:
"That at the name of
Jesus every knee should
bow, of things in heaven,
and things in earth, and
things under the earth" -
Philippians 2:10
Don't tell me that Catholicism
doesn't worship Mary!!! The below
photo says it all. Pope John Paul II
worshipped Our Lady of Fatima
(Mary) and not the Lord Jesus
Christ.

christemmbassey: THE POPE IS AN ATHEIST? And Catholics claim that they are christians, wonders shall never end, Frosbel has been vindicated.

christemmbassey: THE POPE IS AN ATHEIST? And Catholics claim that they are christians, wonders shall never end, Frosbel has been vindicated.

Ubenedictus: who are you to tell me not to call my fellow xtian holy when d bible calls us holy?
D bible calls us saints, from d greek "hagia" meaning "holy". I posses d righteousnes of christ, it has been imputed to me! I am righteous.

peteregwu:



pls as a true christian, we dont follow the multitude, we follow the word of God(bible). Romans 3:4 KJV "God forbid: yea, let God (bible)be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

now, what is the basis of your point? i base my argument on the word of God, which is the truth and the only truth. just because the billions of people or catholic are having the same belief does not mean they are right. Exodus 23:2 KJV
"Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment :"

the bible is what you should use to compare or discern if somebody is standing on the truth. even if my pastor preaches a lie, by the word of God i will quickly discern that his teaching is false. that is why the bible is made available for us all. so that no one will deceieve us in the name of a pastor or pope. dont be deceived my brother. "by their fruits, you shall know them," the bible says. and the same bible says if anyone or angel from heaven preach to us another Jesus or a false gospel of the truth, let him be accursed.

the bible says, that in this end time many will be deceived. that is exactly what is happening many false teachings today. just like the teachings of catholic. praying to mary, use of rosary or chaplets like muslims, worshipping of idols or images.

Ubenedictus: who are you to tell me not to call my fellow xtian holy when d bible calls us holy?
D bible calls us saints, from d greek "hagia" meaning "holy". I posses d righteousnes of christ, it has been imputed to me! I am righteous.

peteregwu:

you have misunderstood me or the bible. we dont merit holiness, neither do we deserve it. the bible says for all have sinned and ome short of the glory of God. rom 3:23. we are made righteous by the grace of Goe n Christ Jesus. so, trying to call somebody or uour pastor by th name, His holiness, is an abomination. we refer to ourselves as brother or pastor, considering ones position in the church. even in the bible, when a man rushed to Jesus and calling Jesus, "good master," Jesus replied him dont call me good for no man is good except God. now, you see what i mean? if Jesus as God Himself in flesh refusing to be called good, hw much more we sinners in flesh. my friend read youf bible.

christemmbassey: the only truth i've ever heard from u, however, it applies only to the christian faith not catholic faith. Oh I wish ud bcome a christian.

Ubenedictus:
*yawns*
no one merits righteousnes and no one deserves it. But my bible itself call christian "holy" the moment d merits of christ has been applied to them. If d bible bears witness that xtians are called holy what stops me from calling d next christian saint, holy, ur holiness?

peteregwu:



the bible declearing us holy ones does not mean we should boast over it. This is exactly what i am saying, we dont go about claiming or shouting or even taking the name "his holiness". it does not show humility before God. you want to take th name of God or Gods position.


Matthew 23:8-10 KJV
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. [9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. [10] Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.



if you a son of the president does no mean you are a president. let believers humble theirselves before the Lord. desciples in the bible refer to themselves as brothers, evangelist, pastors or prophets. see let me tell you, if you are a true born again christian, if people call you his holiness, u will feel bad about it because the holy spirit will make u know this. this exactly what Jesus came into the world to teach us, how to serve God and walk in His will in humility not in boasting pride because "we can of ourselves do nothing". despite all the miracles and being the one (Jesus) without sin(the holy one), Jesus never cherish the name, "good master," He rejected it immediately, seeing Himself as nobody to bear such name but ascribing it to God alone.



Philippians 2:5-11 KJV
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

christemmbassey: UBE is not a christian but a catholic am sure he listened to pastor chris,.

Classicalman: Catholics are not suicide bombers.