Rip 4 maggi , but d woman is so wicked to d masses always colliding with violent people e.g us president ronald regan who used “bombing bombing russia to test a michrphone“

cap28:

Let me ask you a questionn - Did it make sense to shut down the mines and dump thousands of people onto the dole queue ? was that more cost effective? I really dont understand the logic of creating mass unemployment and adding more pressure to the social security system .

Mister blinkered man - let me list to you the legacy of Thatcher's mine closures: drug addiction, astronomical rise in crime rate, suicide increase, the rise of casual exploitative non unionised labour , alcholism - was it worth it?


Today many british workers can be hired and fired at the whim of their employer all as a result of Thatchers dismantling of the unions - again i ask you - was it worth it?

So thatcher created home ownership - please get your facts right - you do not own your home if the bank grants you a mortage on it -you are merely a tenant of the property until you have paid off the mortgaged to the bank - shortly after the 1980 right to buy scheme was lauunched by Thatcher interest rates shot up this resulted in many of these former so called home owners losing their properties because their mortgage repayments became astronomically expensive - so in other words she fooled the british public into a sense of false security and later snatched the rug from underneath them by putting up intrest rates - how was this a good thing?

The only people who benefitted from thatcher's policy were the upper middle class and the city of london bankers who make up a tiny minority of the british public - the average joe lost out. I dont expect you to understand any of this because being of a typical nigerian mindset you identify with your oppressor even when that oppressor has his foot on your neck.

The mines were shut down becuase it wasn't economically feasible for a majority to keep footing the salaries of a minority. The Mining industry was dwindling and it made no sense to keep it afloat for the same reason why China supplies 80% of global rare earths even though it only has 30%. When labour gets too expensive, it works against commerce. People who resorted to alcoholism and drugs were simply lazy folks who couldn't change. If your skill is no longer in demand, then find another skill.

Yes Thatcher created home ownership and millions in the UK have her to thank for that. A man who pays a mortgage and has a home after 30 years is better than a man with no mortgage and pays rent until he dies. A man/woman could live his home to his kids on death. That is better than nothing.

Many folks who were clever but from middle and low inclome homes became rich with market deregulation. That some could do it while others couldn't, doesn't make it bad. Sir Sugar just said that many smart folks were able to tap into it.


I ask again, what would you have done given the following? Keep borrowing and raising taxes to support a declining industry?

1. A decline in the UK mining industry

2. High inflation

3. High debt (the labour government had borrowed from the IMF)

4. High taxes from Labour (98% marginal rate)

I need actual ideas. Thatcher has done her bit; lets hear what you would have done.

Didn't even know she was still alive...

The UK has Mrs.Thatcher to thank for becoming relevant again thru the 80's.Without her common sense and determination they were on the path of creeping European socialism that has now effectively bankrupted a third of the Europe.

RIP Mrs.Thatcher.

shymexx:

I can't really go into details right now because I'm on my way home but you should be able to discern it yourself...

The Iran contra made Nigeria a major route for drugs... and that was when Nigeria became neck deep in the drug game...

And SAP started the devaluation of the naira and most of the economic policies that's affecting Nigeria today...

Please go into details. I will be waiting.

I have addressed SAP.

White007: The UK has Mrs.Thatcher to thank for becoming relevant again thru the 80's.Without her common sense and determination they were on the path of creeping European socialism that has now effectively bankrupted a third of the Europe.

RIP Mrs.Thatcher.

Correct

The UK was a pariah nation in the 70s under financially bankrupt labour governments.

Katsumoto:

As usual, conspiracy theories.

SAP was implemented because your leaders (IBB) were corrupt and needed to balance books.

Did Britain itself not implement SAP from the mid 1970s until the early 80s? Britiain went to the IMF in 1975 and it had to go on SAP as well. People who borrow money have to follow the directives of their creditors. Why is China not implementing SAP? If you don't want to be issued directives, then don't borrow.

I knew yoiu wouldnt be able to come back with anything of substance.

If Britain had our interest at heart why did they remove buhari and replace him with a notorious drug baron aka IBB.

Dont you find it strange that Buhari who refused to accept SAP was removed and replaced with pro SAP accolyte IBB?

You make me laugh - how much does the united states owe to its creditors ? how much of that has it paid back ? in fact the real question should be how much CAN it pay back - you better go and preach to the united states who currently owe China over $1trillion dollars which they have no way of ever paying back before you come with your sanctimonious sermon to nigerians.

shymexx:

Don't be naive, kats... We all know that the banksters and plutocrats control both Labour and Conservatives... So, how do you expect Labour to overturn something that benefits their major financial backers?? They don't have balls to do that, to be honest... Blair did what he could to balance the equation with what he had - and we all felt his policies...

City of London and Canary Wharf control Westminster and Downing Street!!

You are kidding right. Blair and Brown simply used freebies to bribe lazy folks. The same freebies that is responsible for the necessary cuts in public spending today. Where do you think governments get money? Like my mum used to say 'money doesn't grow on trees'. It is irresponsible to expect your country to continue with irresponsible borrowing to support lazy lifestyles. While Blair is living like a millionaire, people are having to give up many of the useless freebies he gave to win elections.

If Thatcher was so bad, she wouldn't have won three elections.

Politicians are dime a dozen. Leaders are hens teeth. The lady had her share of failures and flaws no doubt, but the only leader without a list of failures is a leader without a list of achievements. For better or for worse, the woman was a leader, an icon, and left her mark in history. Thatcher, Reagan, Gorbachev, Mitterand, Kohl, Nakasone, it was quite an amazing era. They don't make heads of state like they used to.

adaobi123:

The harsh comment was banter thing. Even though dying ain't a good thing.

Of course I know about this woman. My dad came to England during her time as prime minister and I know it was very hard for him and he just basically suffered.

Heaven = Very good thing
Death = Prerequisite to heaven

Death must be good

cap28:

I knew yoiu wouldnt be able to come back with anything of substance.

If Britain had our interest at heart why did they remove buhari and replace him with a notorious drug baron aka IBB.

Dont you find it strange that Buhari who refused to accept SAP was removed and replaced with pro SAP accolyte IBB?

You make me laugh - how much does the united states owe to its creditors ? how much of that has it paid back ? in fact the real question should be how much CAN it pay back - you better go and preach to the united states who currently owe China over $1trillion dollars which they have no way of ever paying back before you come with your sanctimonious sermon to nigerians.

How do you know Britain had a hand in buhari's removal? Isn't this from the normal conspiracy theory websites or beer parlours? What does Britain have to gain from Nigeria implementing SAP? So who is making Greece, Portugal, Spain implement SAP? You need to start debating with facts and logic and not the usual garbage from conspiracy theory websites. Who made Britain go to the IMF in 1975 and who made them implement SAP.

Governments, just like people, who spend more than they earn resort to borrowing. And creditors will always demand that you cut waste if they are to lend you money.

Katsumoto:

If Thatcher was so bad, she wouldn't have won three elections.

Since her policies favored the elite

occam:

You've repeated a line by extreme racist groups to support their myopic vision of the world. No data or fact supports this notion. It was policy targeted at a certain group of immigrants (Asians, Africans)

Paradoxically, preferred Hong Kong Chinese given British passports chose not to settle in the U.K. The passports were simply used as "insurance policy". Most settled in US,Canada or Australia

Racists groups have no world vision; they simply don't want you in their countries. If migrants were making changes in their own countries, they wouldn't be leaving them. Surely, your nation must be very bad for anyone to stay in a foreign country even at pain of death. Go and effect change in your own countries and stop demanding that other countries adopt your views at all cost.

Legit1:

Since her policies favored the elite

If the elite were a majority, then she was looking out for a majority. Isn't that what policy is about?

Feed me more: Politicians are dime a dozen. Leaders are hens teeth. The lady had her share of failures and flaws no doubt, but the only leader without a list of failures is a leader without a list of achievements. For better or for worse, the woman was a leader, an icon, and left her mark in history. Thatcher, Reagan, Gorbachev, Mitterand, Kohl, Nakasone, it was quite an amazing era. They don't make heads of state like they used to.

You as well, no

I see why the future of Africa isn't bright... All these people destroyed us just to enrich the global banksters and plutocrats... No one likes Lady Thatcher in the UK except her conservative base and a few uncle Toms and aunt Tomasinas...

Katsumoto:

If the elite were a majority, then she was looking out for a majority. Isn't that what policy is about?

However, were the elites the majority, though??

You still haven't said anything about how her policies made the Scots hate the conservatives forever!!

shymexx:

You as well, no

I see why the future of Africa isn't bright... All these people destroyed us just to enrich the global banksters and plutocrats... No one likes Lady Thatcher in the UK except her conservative base and a few uncle Toms and aunt Tomasinas...

No one likes her but she won 3 elections. I guess only 'banksters and plutocrats' voted.

Lady Thatcher never hide the fact that she hated the minorities!!

She was a proud racist!!

Katsumoto:

No one likes her but she won 3 elections. I guess only 'banksters and plutocrats' voted.

However, did she win in Scotland and Northern England?? She won because of the Falklands war and the nationalist movement back then, without the Falklands war, she would have been a gooner.. No one liked her!!

shymexx:

However, were the elites the majority, though??

You still haven't said anything about how her policies made the Scots hate the conservatives forever!!

The scots aren't the only ones who hate the conservatives. No leader in history has made everyone happy. Leading is about promoting policies which favour a majority over a minority and not everyone.


Can you help with the task below?

I ask again, what would you have done given the following? Keep borrowing and raising taxes to support a declining industry?

1. A decline in the UK mining industry

2. High inflation

3. High debt (the labour government had borrowed from the IMF)

4. High taxes from Labour (98% marginal rate)

I need actual ideas. Thatcher has done her bit; lets hear what you would have done.

But I just drank pepper sooup at iron lady's beer paloour yesterday na..I can't believe she was that popular ..now she is gona!!! What a loss where will I eat isi ewu and nkwo obi na!!!! Life is a b...h

Katsumoto:

How do you know Britain had a hand in buhari's removal? Isn't this from the normal conspiracy theory websites or beer parlours? What does Britain have to gain from Nigeria implementing SAP? So who is making Greece, Portugal, Spain implement SAP? You need to start debating with facts and logic and not the usual garbage from conspiracy theory websites. Who made Britain go to the IMF in 1975 and who made them implement SAP.

Governments, just like people, who spend more than they earn resort to borrowing. And creditors will always demand that you cut waste if they are to lend you money.

No this is very much based on fact - if you research the background of IBB you will discover that he is a CIA asset, have you read Hegemony or Survival by Professor (Emeritus) Noam Chomsky of MIT?

How about, Against Empire by Michael Parenti Phd Yale ? no?

The above are hardly what you would call beer parlour or conspiracy theorists given their backgrounds - try educating yourself by reading some of their books and you will find out how the united states and britain use and control our leaders for the benefit of the united states military industrial complex, the multinationals and the western banking cartels.

If we are to follow your logic regarding govts who spend more than they earn why is the united states STILL able to keep its economy afloat despite a staggering national debt of $16 trillion ?

shymexx:

However, did she win in Scotland and Northern England?? She won because of the Falklands war and the nationalist movement back then, without the Falklands war, she would have been a gooner.. No one liked her!!

Please list the leaders who won in all regions. Did Blair win in the South East and South West?

So she won the 1988 election cos of the 1982 war? Shymexx really?

Katsumoto:
The scots aren't the only ones who hate the conservatives. No leader in history has made everyone happy. Leading is about promoting policies which favour a majority over a minority and not everyone.


Can you help with the task below?

I ask again, what would you have done given the following? Keep borrowing and raising taxes to support a declining industry?

1. A decline in the UK mining industry

2. High inflation

3. High debt (the labour government had borrowed from the IMF)

4. High taxes from Labour (98% marginal rate)

I need actual ideas. Thatcher has done her bit; lets hear what you would have done.

Increase taxes for the rich and super rich!! That was the same way London was turned from a shytehole to prosperity in the 1800s... However, she was an elitist - who made the rich richer by destroying the livelihoods of the poor!!

Katsumoto:
Please list the leaders who won in all regions. Did Blair win in the South East and South West?

So she won the 1988 election cos of the 1982 war? Shymexx really?

Really Kats?? How did you expect Blair to win the conservatives' strongest bases in SE and SW??

Scotland is another country in the union, why did she fail to win over there??

The death of the iron lady has brought children from d far end of UK to converge in a place called nairaland discussing with there fellow nigerian counterparts abt a women who cares less about the land of their forefathers(nigeria). It is a shame 2 read from one poster dat her/his father suffered from d iron lady. Which is better 2 suffer from a white supremacist or a fellow countryman with your dignity intact? You talk much abt UK economy and politics, how much of nigeria politics and economy do they know? Some dont even know their root. All your comments doesnot contribute a shilling to d UK polity.

Katsumoto:

If the elite were a majority, then she was looking out for a majority. Isn't that what policy is about?

Sure, but you said 'if'.

Katsumoto:

No one likes her but she won 3 elections. I guess only 'banksters and plutocrats' voted.

oh your one of those sad individuals who still beleive that elections mean anything?

Did you know that Adolf Hitler won the elections in his country by an overwhelming landslide? you know why? because people were blinded by desperation, poverty and despair, these factors led to the rise of Nazi germany.

Politicians are clever they know how to exploit weaknesses, Thatcher was no exception, why do you think she played the race card in her election campaigns - she knew she could secure a victory if she played on the inherent racism of british people, that didnt mean that she was popular - it just meant that she was smart.

cap28:

No this is very much based on fact - if you research the background of IBB you will discover that he is a CIA asset, have you read Hegemony or Survival by Professor (Emeritus) Noam Chomsky of MIT?

How about, Against Empire by Michael Parenti Phd Yale ? no?

The above are hardly what you would call beer parlour or conspiracy theorists given their backgrounds - try educating yourself by reading some of their books and you will find out how the united states and britain use and control our leaders for the benefit of the united states military industrial complex, the multinationals and the western banking cartels.

If we are to follow your logic regarding govts who spend more than they earn why is the united states STILL able to keep its economy afloat despite a staggering national debt of $16 trillion ?

Please link those books to Buhari, IBB, and SAP. What sections of the books deal with this? Obfuscation doesn't work with me. Give me specifics.

The US has a problem with debt and thats why there has been a debate about how to reduce it. Besides US borrowing is more developmental based which is different from greed-based (Africa) or welfare based (Europe). If the US went into recession today, would it have the funds to implement Keynesian type policies? Besides, regardless, of how you spend your money, people lend you money if they believe you can pay. The US can't force China to lend it money.

There are hundreds of Nigerian kids who were separated from their families because of this woman... Most of them had to grow up in foster homes in some of the most racist places in the UK... What about those people whose childhood were destroyed by her and who never had their parents in their lives??