Pygru: Hell is real

christemmbassey: i didnt know that there are several types of catholics

Pygru:

Is me seeing double?
Frosbel calling someone a false teacher?
Nothing pesin eye no go see for nairaland.
Grand Master of false teachers!
Later him go say I dey Slander

frosbel:


I think we can console ourselves with the truth which is in Jesus and the comfort that comes from our hope in GOD's mercy and fairness , we do not need to console ourselves with Hell. If you want to meditate on HELL day and night , though it is a fallacy, all I can say is enjoy those beautiful moments.

On a more serious note, you have a zeal for God and I predict you will discard these false doctrines not long from now, the seed has been planted and God will work on you. I was like you only a few years ago , until I dumped the creeds and dogmas of deeperlife to carry out an independent study , with support from the results of decades of research carried out by berean brothers with heavy scriptural support.

nep2ra: It's not surprising to see hell fire and tithe proponents frothing at the mouth as they anticipate smelling burning flesh from their many mansions in heaven. This is how a wicked heart thinks. By their fruits you shall know them.

In trying to give shaky foundations to their false teachings, they have gone ahead to create God in Man's image. What results is the damnable heresies we see on this forum.

Tpfkakambo:

it wud b better if u dnt try to make d bible say what u wud like it to say but rather report the truth as is written, if ur a christian.
If ur an atheists or non christian,then ur reaction, is to b xpcted and counts for nothing in d present context.

Tpfkakambo:

scriptural support tht told u tht hell is not real!
More like u got all confused like a cat playing with a ball of knitting wool.
U studies got u mor tangled up.
U dnt believe man is a spirit, u dnt believe there's hell!
If study som more u'll prob'ly come up wth a damnable heresy like circumcision is necessary to make heaven or smtin wrse...
Christianity is plagued by zealots like u who are in a rush to scream half baked truths or distrted interpretations of scripture as if theyre holy facts..

Bidam: OFCOS when you are caught you will always come up with this lame excuse. My brother Jesus said Hell is real short and simple..I'd rather believe Jesus than all this vain philosophies and ideologies of men you guys are saying here..Since i have Christ on my inside why should i even be afraid of hell in the first place? It is reserved for the devil and the disobedient..shikena

olire: you people are vexing my soul. If he is wrong prove him wrong. Why act immature and start insulting him. Pklease grow up.

alexleo:

Thanks my brother. Quite a pity how this people are so deceived. How some people will be quoting all sorts of scriptures (like satand did to Jesus) and giving some useless reasons just to disprove the existence of hell. A place that Jesus warned us severally in the bible not to enter. They blame king James, blame latin at some point, blame hebrew at another point, blame greek, just to continue to propagate this false teaching. What a desperate move to spread false doctrine. God bless you for standing up for the truth.

Pygru: Hell is real

alexleo:

Yes my dear. HELL IS VERY REAL. Simple and straight forward statements that Jesus made about hell fire is what they have been running from pillar to post, sweating like christmas goat, gathering scriptures, misapplying and misinterpreting it just to cancel it. Does it take all those scriptural quoting jamboree to prove that fornication is sin? that stealing is bad? that killing is bad? Now, the scriptural jamboree they have engaged in so far to cancel hell is the same that it will take a false teacher to claim that not all fornication is sin, that not all stealing is sin etc. You know anybody can twist the bible anyhow just to drive his false point but the truth is always as solid as rock, it takes a lot of things to pull it down so i can understand why our friends has been having hectic time in their no-hell false mission.

Bidam: Don't just argue BLINDLY when Jesus talked about the prodigal son did he mention literal names like Lazarus, Moses and Abraham like He did ABOUT LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN?

alexleo:

The story of Lazarus and the rich man is never a parable. In the parable of the prodigal son was any person's name mentioned? Tell me any parable where someone's name was mentioned.

alexleo:

Oh you asked same question to him too? like we sent it same time. My dear this people are just making desperate effort to console themselves that there is no hell fire and no eternal punishment. I wonder why people are afraid to face the truth of the bible than engaging in diluting it to suit what their flesh wants.

Bidam: OFCOS when you are caught you will always come up with this lame excuse. My brother Jesus said Hell is real short and simple..I'd rather believe Jesus than all this vain philosophies and ideologies of men you guys are saying here..Since i have Christ on my inside why should i even be afraid of hell in the first place? It is reserved for the devil and the disobedient..shikena

Bidam: My brother Jesus said tithe is real mat 23:23..i'd rather believe and obey Jesus than men..who are you obeying? frosbel SMH!

ijawkid:

ForÑication is as straight forward as it Is......Hell is much complicated my dear bro alexleo....

First of all its original term in the original hebrew and greek has been widely mistranslated as you know.......hades and sheol have been tampered with and twisted by many persons to fit into hell.....
It is known that Jesus spent 3days in Hell which is an exclusive abode for satan and his cohorts.....was Jesus part of satans entourage??.......
The mistake of various renderers is that they render all these words as HELL and thereby creating all the confusion we have...

1...TARTARUS
2..SHEOL/HADES(Mans common grave)
3..GEHENNA
4..LAKE of FIRE....

Those words up there have all been translated to mean HELL which in turn has landed everybody in confusion......


Also the Concept of HeLl is one that paints God as extra-judicial......would God roast individuals multiples times??......

Would God roast persons first in HELL,then later transfer them into the Lake of fire to burn again??.......or can you say HEll is the same as the lake of fire......would God leave adam and eve the creators of sin in humans and burn US there progenies in both Hell and the Lake of Fire literally,forever??.....would GOD reserve satan the chief trouble maker for the Lake of Fire only,while unrepentant humans would first of all be roasted a lil in Hell and then later transfered to the lake of fire??....

And as regards the rich man and lazarus,even after showing you from our last discussion that it is simply a parable you and bidam and pygru still deny it....

All the parables of Jesus always started like ""there was a certain man,......"a certain man....

Consistently Jesus started his parables in this manner.......and we have all seen that it is impossible for the individuals in that parable to had been in heaven or in a roasting chamber literally when Jesus gave that parable...........

Nations,human governments,sorrow,satan,Death itself would be thrown into the lake of fire....

It is up to you to tell me what kind of fire is that........you guys sometimes should relax back and review all the facts before arriving at a conclusion....

Bidam: continue to ignore the words of Jesus to your destruction..any one can quote scriptures to make it say what he wants to say.

Tpfkakambo:

it wud b better if u dnt try to make d bible say what u wud like it to say but rather report the truth as is written, if ur a christian.
If ur an atheists or non christian,then ur reaction, is to b xpcted and counts for nothing in d present context.

alexleo:

Thanks my brother. Quite a pity how this people are so deceived. How some people will be quoting all sorts of scriptures (like satan did to Jesus) and giving some useless reasons just to disprove the existence of hell. A place that Jesus warned us severally in the bible not to enter. They blame king James, blame latin at some point, blame hebrew at another point, blame greek, just to continue to propagate this false teaching. What a desperate move to spread false doctrine. God bless you for standing up for the truth.

Tpfkakambo:

A simple google search would have provided so many bible verses to put him straight instead of coming online to
push wobbly opinions of the bible as if theyre facts.
how long has it taken me to prepare the last post above?
You yourselve should have been able to research the facts presented and come to a conclusion yourself.
The hardest part would be finding scriptures but google is your friend here- ..
All these half bakedness should be avoided..
There are complex theological topics that could task the most conscientious theologian but not this
abc issues..
People just want to beliv wat they want to believe,fine.but dont try to twist scriptures
to fit your warped view point.

truthislight:


"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." (John 3:13).

christemmbassey: God bless u plenty, our brothers always allowed their go's half truth to mess them up here, just bc we insist that the story of Lazarus and the rich mam was a parable, they say, we dont believe, there is hell. If after reading this ur post they continue to shout abuses, it is clear they need to grow up. Thanks.

alexleo:

Desperados at work. My confidence about this issue is that we all will die someday and see the whole truth. What a horrible end it will be for those of you who have deceived themselves when you cross to eternity and be face to face with the hell you denied here. Foolishness at its peak.

alexleo:

So where did Elijah ascend to if the place you quoted means what you are falsely interpreting? What about Enoch whom we are told did not taste death but was taken by God. Where is he? Are these men now in your village or where? Oya begin your desperado twisting to explain this one too. Rubbish.

truthislight:

Elijah was relocated from one place to another on this earth with that chariot.

That is why he could still do his work of warning a king in the future after the chariot carried him.

See:


"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2 Kings 2:11).


After that ^ at 2 Kings 2:11, see him sending a latter to a wicked king later:

"Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah, and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto.

"And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet",

saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, But hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father’s house, which were better than thyself: Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods:" (2 Chronicles 21:11-14).
..............................

That ^ happened years later.

That the birds of "heavens" fly in "heaven" does not mean that they are in the throne of God.

Even earoplen fly into "heaven".

*Edited*

nep2ra:

Your joy is seeing non-Christians and sinners burn in hell fire for all eternity while you majestically trot in your spotless white robe in a gold mansion. You will rather not think about the anguish and suffering of your fellow human beings because you screamed yourself hoarse warning them about their ultimate destination. It's their fault they didn't listen to you. They got what they deserved.

Unfortunately, your sick fantasies will never come to pass. You have reduced God to a vindictive, petty dictator who delights in eternally torturing those who have wronged him for a few years. Even though He has the power to erase them from existence, He would rather listen to the spine chilling cries of mortals who are a zillion times weaker than Him and be pleased with the smell of burning flesh.

This is the God you have created in your image. Bow before Him.

alexleo:

Stop being stu.pid. If you are arguing with someone over an issue and you express your confidence that at a particular point the truth will show, how does it relate to the nonsense you have wrtten here?
Get thee behind me satan.