alexleo:

So where did Elijah ascend to if the place you quoted means what you are falsely interpreting? What about Enoch whom we are told did not taste death but was taken by God. Where is he? Are these men now in your village or where? Oya begin your desperado twisting to explain this one too. Rubbish.

Read 2 kings 2:11. 11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Also read Hebrews 11:5. 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Abeg carry your useless and satanic teaching comot my face. Agents of falsehood. God will expose you people to shame.

alexleo:

Get thee behind me satan.

alexleo: Oh God pls save us from this agents of deceit who are parading themselves as bible champions while deceiving people into the path of eternal damnation. Expose them and set them free from such satanic entanglements and twisting of the scriptures, set them on the right path that we all will make heaven at last, In Jesus name. Amen.

alexleo:

Stop being stu.pid. If you are arguing with someone over an issue and you express your confidence that at a particular point the truth will show, how does it relate to the nonsense you have wrtten here? Desparados at work.
Get thee behind me satan.

nep2ra:

Your joy is seeing non-Christians and sinners burn in hell fire for all eternity while you majestically trot in your spotless white robe in a gold mansion. You will rather not think about the anguish and suffering of your fellow human beings because you screamed yourself hoarse warning them about their ultimate destination. It's their fault they didn't listen to you. They got what they deserved.

Unfortunately, your sick fantasies will never come to pass. You have reduced God to a vindictive, petty dictator who delights in eternally torturing those who have wronged him for a few years. Even though He has the power to erase them from existence, He would rather listen to the spine chilling cries of mortals who are a zillion times weaker than Him and be pleased with the smell of burning flesh.

This is the God you have created in your image. Bow before Him.

frosbel:


Brother check out what spirit is making you get all worked up and angry, certainly not GOD. The Love of God is what you need, quit following the teachings of your cult and start reading the bible, this is your personal responsibility, your church cannot saved you , only Jesus can.

alexleo:

I don't smile at satan and his evil manifestations. Quit the satan cult you are into.

frosbel: ^^^^

Funny enough , the JW you keep tagging in your comments , are more on point with some of the key bible doctrines.

Mintayo:

Like Jesus is angel micheal?
Like sayin d holy spirit is a force?
Like staying on earth forever?
Like Jesus was not nailed on the cross?
Like not being able to question bt accept every lies?

One of the reasons i love christainty is that you are free to believe whatever you like but you shall also be judged based on that!

truthislight:

Stop this copy and pest without insight.

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed(ruach/spirit) into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7).
.......................

spirit WAS "put" into man and he came to be a living soul.

Simple scripture you shoud first take note of to guide you.

It is this same spirit that leaves the man.

frosbel:

Cult ?


I am not the one attending a church where the leaders are called Reverend, or where in the past medicine was forbidden, or where the lie of tithes is preached , or where the cult members are not allowed to think for themselves ?

Come out your cult Bro and receive the fullness of God's love.

Mintayo:

Like Jesus is angel micheal?

Like sayin d holy spirit is a force?

Like staying on earth forever?

Like Jesus was not nailed on the cross?

Like not being able to question bt accept every lies?

One of the reasons i love christainty is that you are free to believe whatever you like but you shall also be judged based on that!

truthislight:



That ^ is why you need the fear of hell fire to use and threaten those that will not pay tith.

I pity those that keep remaining in bondage.

Dont forget, Jesus said his "(my) load is light" after observing all the temple arrangement including Tithe.

Sorry for you.

frosbel: - I do not believe Jesus Christ is angel Michael

- The Holy Spirit is GOD's Spirit.

- Yes, this is 100% biblical


- Yes, Jesus was crucified on a tree which was not in the shape of a pagan cross. The Cross with it's current shape is pagan.

This is what a cross looked like.



- Not too different to the denominational cults.




Yes, just make sure you are not believing a LIE.

ijawkid:

ForÑication is as straight forward as it Is......Hell is much complicated my dear bro alexleo....

First of all its original term in the original hebrew and greek has been widely mistranslated as you know.......hades and sheol have been tampered with and twisted by many persons to fit into hell.....
It is known that Jesus spent 3days in Hell which is an exclusive abode for satan and his cohorts.....was Jesus part of satans entourage??.......
The mistake of various renderers is that they render all these words as HELL and thereby creating all the confusion we have...

1...TARTARUS
2..SHEOL/HADES(Mans common grave)
3..GEHENNA
4..LAKE of FIRE....

Those words up there have all been translated to mean HELL which in turn has landed everybody in confusion......


Also the Concept of HeLl is one that paints God as extra-judicial......would God roast individuals multiples times??......

Would God roast persons first in HELL,then later transfer them into the Lake of fire to burn again??.......or can you say HEll is the same as the lake of fire......would God leave adam and eve the creators of sin in humans and burn US there progenies in both Hell and the Lake of Fire literally,forever??.....would GOD reserve satan the chief trouble maker for the Lake of Fire only,while unrepentant humans would first of all be roasted a lil in Hell and then later transfered to the lake of fire??....

And as regards the rich man and lazarus,even after showing you from our last discussion that it is simply a parable you and bidam and pygru still deny it....

All the parables of Jesus always started like ""there was a certain man,......"a certain man....

Consistently Jesus started his parables in this manner.......and we have all seen that it is impossible for the individuals in that parable to had been in heaven or in a roasting chamber literally when Jesus gave that parable...........

Nations,human governments,sorrow,satan,Death itself would be thrown into the lake of fire....

It is up to you to tell me what kind of fire is that........you guys sometimes should relax back and review all the facts before arriving at a conclusion....

Tpfkakambo:

first of all ur logc is inconsistent junk wen lined against d wrd of God, ur creatg a model of God , instead of gazg at the picture of God u'v been Given in d Bible.
Wen u die - judgement strts.
There's no mid ground ..
Revelations, talks of Hell and death being cast into d lake of fire,
so after Judgement d sufferg continues @ a higher level.

Hell is not complicated.
The God of d bible isnt interested in confusg ppl but savg them.
Is d message of salvation complicated? "for God so loved d wrld tht he sent his only begotten Son tht whosoever believes in Him will not perish but hav everlastg life" . Complicated? Then y will Hell b;wch is wat God wants all men to avoid?

The bible never mixes up d lake of fire and Hell,
theyre 2 distinct places.
Get ur facts str8t.
Hell will b thrwn into the lake of fire.

The bible clearly states dat hell , lakeoffire,was created for d devil and his demons,its punishment suitable fr thm. Its so terrble tht the demons shudder wen they think about it, how much more man!
Man doesnt need 2 go there but sin is like an opium man just loves it.

There is nthg xtra judcial abt thngs. There's no vacuum in life.
If u spirit is in your body, u live and operate on earth, else u live and operate in d spirit wrld, theres no comatose suspense mode inbtw.
If ur unqualified 4 heaven, u bet satan has a right to u, and He wants u receivg ur reward immediately.
If u are qualified 4 heaven, God's angels are comg to take u ..
No loiterrg, no standg,no roamg around . Keep movg.

Hell isnt d abode of satan, mind you!
Satan has a kingdom,,
its d kingdom of darkness..
Is dat kingdom in Hell? No.
Its in d air?
Above the earth atmosphere,
the bible calls him, the prince of d power of d air.
Satan accesses hell, and theyre demons in hell too all wrkg fr satan.
The bible says wen d 70 returned to Jesus,they rejoiced and Jesus said He beheld Satan fall like lighteng. "if satan, fell then he most have been at a higher location to fall to earth?
The bible says we wrestle not against Flesh and blood butagainst spiritual force of wickedness in the heavenly realm.. Satan has his kingdom in d heavenly realm!

Wud God leave adam and eve the creators of sin....
Adam and eve ddnt create sin.
If they repented theyll b in heaven.
Satan, isnt judged yet,cuz d end hasnt come, and the spiritual agenda of God operates on unfaultable legal grounds.
To save man, God ddnt use brute frce, but legal strategy. God bcame man to save man.
He wont throw satan off until the time of satans judgement is come.


If d stry of lazarus nd d rch man were a parable, an interpretation wud hav followed shortly.
Most bibles, wud have a caption alludg to it as a parable,e.g
"the parable of d rchman and Lazarus"

obadiah777: I SEE YOU ARE HERE BEING A REPROBATE AGAIN ? OF COURSE JESUS IS ARCH-ANGEL MICHEAL

Tpfkakambo:

first of all ur logc is inconsistent junk wen lined against d wrd of God, ur creatg a model of God , instead of gazg at the picture of God u'v been Given in d Bible.
Wen u die - judgement strts.
There's no mid ground ..
Revelations, talks of Hell and death being cast into d lake of fire,
so after Judgement d sufferg continues @ a higher level.

Hell is not complicated.
The God of d bible isnt interested in confusg ppl but savg them.
Is d message of salvation complicated? "for God so loved d wrld tht he sent his only begotten Son tht whosoever believes in Him will not perish but hav everlastg life" . Complicated? Then y will Hell b;wch is wat God wants all men to avoid?

The bible never mixes up d lake of fire and Hell,
theyre 2 distinct places.
Get ur facts str8t.
Hell will b thrwn into the lake of fire.

The bible clearly states dat hell , lakeoffire,was created for d devil and his demons,its punishment suitable fr thm. Its so terrble tht the demons shudder wen they think about it, how much more man!
Man doesnt need 2 go there but sin is like an opium man just loves it.

There is nthg xtra judcial abt thngs. There's no vacuum in life.
If u spirit is in your body, u live and operate on earth, else u live and operate in d spirit wrld, theres no comatose suspense mode inbtw.
If ur unqualified 4 heaven, u bet satan has a right to u, and He wants u receivg ur reward immediately.
If u are qualified 4 heaven, God's angels are comg to take u ..
No loiterrg, no standg,no roamg around . Keep movg.

Hell isnt d abode of satan, mind you!
Satan has a kingdom,,
its d kingdom of darkness..
Is dat kingdom in Hell? No.
Its in d air?
Above the earth atmosphere,
the bible calls him, the prince of d power of d air.
Satan accesses hell, and theyre demons in hell too all wrkg fr satan.
The bible says wen d 70 returned to Jesus,they rejoiced and Jesus said He beheld Satan fall like lighteng. "if satan, fell then he most have been at a higher location to fall to earth?
The bible says we wrestle not against Flesh and blood butagainst spiritual force of wickedness in the heavenly realm.. Satan has his kingdom in d heavenly realm!

Wud God leave adam and eve the creators of sin....
Adam and eve ddnt create sin.
If they repented theyll b in heaven.
Satan, isnt judged yet,cuz d end hasnt come, and the spiritual agenda of God operates on unfaultable legal grounds.
To save man, God ddnt use brute frce, but legal strategy. God bcame man to save man.
He wont throw satan off until the time of satans judgement is come.


If d stry of lazarus nd d rch man were a parable, an interpretation wud hav followed shortly.
Most bibles, wud have a caption alludg to it as a parable,e.g
"the parable of d rchman and Lazarus"

Tpfkakambo:

first of all ur logc is inconsistent junk wen lined against d wrd of God, ur creatg a model of God , instead of gazg at the picture of God u'v been Given in d Bible.
Wen u die - judgement strts.
There's no mid ground ..
Revelations, talks of Hell and death being cast into d lake of fire,
so after Judgement d sufferg continues @ a higher level.

Tpfkakambo:

Hell is not complicated.
The God of d bible isnt interested in confusg ppl but savg them.
Is d message of salvation complicated? "for God so loved d wrld tht he sent his only begotten Son tht whosoever believes in Him will not perish but hav everlastg life" . Complicated? Then y will Hell b;wch is wat God wants all men to avoid?

Tpfkakambo:

The bible never mixes up d lake of fire and Hell,
theyre 2 distinct places.
Get ur facts str8t.
Hell will b thrwn into the lake of fire.

The bible clearly states dat hell , lakeoffire,was created for d devil and his demons,its punishment suitable fr thm. Its so terrble tht the demons shudder wen they think about it, how much more man!
Man doesnt need 2 go there but sin is like an opium man just loves it.

Tpfkakambo:

There is nthg xtra judcial abt thngs. There's no vacuum in life.
If u spirit is in your body, u live and operate on earth, else u live and operate in d spirit wrld, theres no comatose suspense mode inbtw.
If ur unqualified 4 heaven, u bet satan has a right to u, and He wants u receivg ur reward immediately.
If u are qualified 4 heaven, God's angels are comg to take u ..
No loiterrg, no standg,no roamg around . Keep movg.

Tpfkakambo:

Hell isnt d abode of satan, mind you!
Satan has a kingdom,,
its d kingdom of darkness..
Is dat kingdom in Hell? No.
Its in d air?
Above the earth atmosphere,
the bible calls him, the prince of d power of d air.
Satan accesses hell, and theyre demons in hell too all wrkg fr satan.
The bible says wen d 70 returned to Jesus,they rejoiced and Jesus said He beheld Satan fall like lighteng. "if satan, fell then he most have been at a higher location to fall to earth?
The bible says we wrestle not against Flesh and blood butagainst spiritual force of wickedness in the heavenly realm.. Satan has his kingdom in d heavenly realm!

Tpfkakambo:

Wud God leave adam and eve the creators of sin....
Adam and eve ddnt create sin.
If they repented theyll b in heaven.
Satan, isnt judged yet,cuz d end hasnt come, and the spiritual agenda of God operates on unfaultable legal grounds.
To save man, God ddnt use brute frce, but legal strategy. God bcame man to save man.
He wont throw satan off until the time of satans judgement is come.

Tpfkakambo:

If d stry of lazarus nd d rch man were a parable, an interpretation wud hav followed shortly.
Most bibles, wud have a caption alludg to it as a parable,e.g
"the parable of d rchman and Lazarus"

truthislight:

lol.

What is happening to him?

Lol. May that Demon leave him and let him have peace and happiness.

Mintayo:

With this your post,you just confirm a long-term question i have been finding answer to!

But let me tell you in a plain language- JESUS is not angel micheal!
Jesus is superior to angel micheal!
Micheal and Gabriel are great angels in heaven and Jesus is greater than them!

Infact this may be new to you-I am also superior to Micheal and Gabriel!

alexleo:

How can you understand what is happening. Do you pray in your satanic kingdom? Keep doing your satanic work. You think am here to waste my time on your useless JW teachings. Rubbish.

frosbel: According to the members of the HELL club, when a man or woman dies in sin, they immediately descend to HELL , which though prepared for the devil and his angels , contains ONLY Human Beings.

In other words, while the devil roams the earth, blissfully causing mayhem, the HELL which was prepared for him is ONLY inhabited by MEN and WOMEN.

Think about this for a moment, does it really make sense ?

Secondly , there are Two Hells if we are to believe that sinners go to HELL after death. The Lake of Fire is also called HELL in the bible. So tell us , which of these hells was created for the devil and his angels, which HELL was Jesus referring to.

Think, Think and stop following MEN with their dead traditions.

obadiah777: LMAO. NOW I KNOW YOU ARE DRUNK ON SHEKPE. NOW LET ME PROVE ONCE AND FOR ALL TO EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT JESUS IS MICHEAL. IF YOU SUPPORT THIS POST AND HAVE BEEN EDIFIED BY THIS POST, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE. IF YOU THINK I AM FULL OF CRAP ALSO, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE. OK NOW LETS FINALLY PROVE THAT JESUS IS MICHEAL

JUDE VS 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. <<<<< MICHEAL CALLING HIMSELF THE LORD ? AND MAKING REFERENCE TO WHEN HE TOLD SATAN DURING THE TEMPTATION AFTER 40 DAYS FAST THAT THE LORD REBUKE THEE

NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I THINK THIS MATTER AND ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED FOREVER

MostHigh:

Just to confirm your expose my brother

Dan 12:1 ¶ And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.


Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt

Only Yashua can bring about the ressurection mentioned at the end of the Age in Dan 12:1-2

More light Sire.

ijawkid:
So would "death" and HELL be tormented too literally??.....are the persons??......

And I have never assumed there was a mid ground.......ask your Hell colleagues that question....



So u do believe that the opposite of death or perisihing is LIFE??........so from john 3:16 we have 2 prospects for obedient and disobedient persons respectively.....EVERLASTING LIFE and DEATH.....abi??........so why think people would be burning literally for all eternity??......


Please when it is said hell would be thrown into the lake of fire,what is that HELL



All I can see from your statement is that there would be no ressurection....isn't that so??.......you have talked about spirit this and that:::please where is the space for ressurection the very core doctrine of christianity??....


If satan was thrown to the earth then what kingdom of his are u talking about that is in heaven??

When you keep saying HELL what do you mean??......do you know Jesus went to HELL and stayed there for 3days??.....



Adam and eve passed on imperfection and sin to us....isn't that true??.....

If those 2 people are not going to literally burn in Hell who then amongst sinful mankind deserves to??.......

When adam and eve sinned what did God say would happen to them??...



But u have seen that all of Jesus' parables started the same way.......should we close our eyes to that of the rich man and lazarus when considering the introduction of the story??.......

truthislight:

Does the bible contradic itself?