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As good as ndidi has been for SE he needs to win us a trophy to displace Players like Onazi let alone oliseh in SE dm hierarchy rankings

DrKlever:
won't people stone you to death if you can open your mouth and say he is better than Ndidi? He is crap player.

I didn't say that he is a better player than ndidi all I said was that etebo had a better wc 2018 and Anc 2019 than ndidi and that my friend is Factual

Slickey:
Etebo was better at the 2018 world cup than Ndidi. Do not let recency bias cloud your judgment.

Even 2019 Anc too

BascoVanVeli:
I doubt that. He hasn't been exposed in any tournament yet. Been the best midfielder in every single competition he has been in. Etebo's only problem was going to that useless Stoke City. I still believe that was the most ridiculous decision I've ever seen made in football.

The guy was better than ndidi at 2018 world cup, 2019 Anc and people still talking crap. Im.not saying that he is a better player than Ndidi tho

How come do we have many available wingers/forward/strikers and very few Attacking midfielders. Is it that younger footballers don't aspire to be like Zidane, Pirlo, Xavi or what? Imagine if SE had playmakers

kellycute:
because they hate good thing. They are looking for issues where there is none. Someone with 5 goals and 5 assist in 5 game is not good enough for them. 5 naira set of people!

My friend look at the bigger picture. Nigeria should never have problems defeating small teams like Benin and Lesotho but in an Anc Final vs Algeria or World cup group stage vs Algeria, you will be punished if you don't capitalize on your few chances. It's a game of Chess not Checkers. Look at the bigger picture

TheSuperNerd:
And one of the Big Questions here:

Who is the better finisher? Osimhen or Onuachu

I could easily tell you my own take but I would rather use Stats to help enhance my points.

Osimhen in serie A alone have missed 5 big chances in 13 games (7 starts). He has 3 goals and 1 assist.

Onuachu in Belgian Pro League has missed "just" 8 big chances in 30 games (28 starts).

My focus is on the number of Big chances missed per Game.

Osimhen missed 5 in 13.

Onuachu missed 8 in 30. If Osimhen had played more games, the chances of him missing more are there. Meanwhile Onuachu had gone through 30 full games and haven't even hit double figures yet in Big Chances missed. What does this tell us? The man is one of the most ice-cold finishers in Europe right now. Infact I have an interesting stat I had compiled since March 8 and waited for the right time to drop which shows that Onuachu is actually Europe's most wicked finisher focusing on League stats alone i.e the guy who hardly misses the Big Chances he gets. He even tops the Finisher-Elite, Haaland and we all know just how Brilliant a finisher Haaland is

Without pressing any calculators, it's safe to say Onuachu's finishing is superior because The Big Man HARDLY misses a big chance.

So what's the simple answer I wanted to give you without this stats-filled preamble? It is easily Paul Onuachu. No arguments. Osimhen is fine finisher. A very good one infact but Onuachu is Elite in this Attribute.

I will drop those Big Chances missed stats comparison that shows how clinical he is compared to the goals scored.

We can't really compare a Farmers league to Seria A in terms of Quality but based on the last 2 games for SE, Paul finishing ability looks better than osimehn own but osimhen all round game thumps him

TheGoodJoe:
Just need to touch on the second half. What most impressed me was the movement of our players. They did well covering each other and opening passing channels for each other.

However, we still have a lot of work to do.

Iheanacho dropping deep and distributing the ball was impressive especially towards the time he was taking out. He looked well coached.

Ndidi covering gaps at the back was also brilliant.

Etebo showed immense work rate.

Osimhen showed how frightening he is if given room to attack. Rohr needs to work on a system to create spaces for Osimhen.

Iwuala looks a genuine talent and he showed it. I was impressed with his skills but needs to work on his weight. Also his use of players. He looked at ease playing with Ebuehi.

I was over impressed with the tactical movement and awareness of space by Onuachu. He looked like Rodri of Man City playing the attack. Also covered grounds.

Iwobi was so delightful to watch in that second half and looks suited for a possessive playing side.

Iwobi delightful in today's game I'm convinced that some of you guys are relatives to SE players because this sort of biased analysis deserves 5 strokes of a cane

kellycute:
all this better finisher talk na scam. How many goal simy score for super eagles wen he played? Clinical because he scored penalty for club. Abegee

They both play in the same league, one has 12 goals in the worst team and 7 non penalties while another has 3 in the same league. I think simy deserve respect

kellycute:
The problem with us is that we like to pull down our players and hype the one that is not even on the list. As long as the player is not playing he is better than the one playing. Imagine someone saying Kalu will drop Chukwueze to the bench. Beer parlour analyst!

Did you see how unprofessional and regressing chulwueze has been in the last few games? Abegi stop it there SE position doesn't belong to anybody and if you're in form, you deserve a chance

kellycute:
you are just deceiving yourself. Do you think anyone will snatch number 9 shirt from Osimhen? It is not possible. Someone that is doing well for the national team and won highest goal scorer in qualifier will be drop for sadiq or any other striker. You guys are not honest at all. Listen, as far as super eagles is concerned, there are certain players that will never be drop.... Osimhen, Iwobi, ndidi, Chukwueze. E be like say you nor know say na rohr be your coach. Dey dere

Iwobi, chuwkwueze don't deserve to be in super eagles 11 today. Iwobi casually lost the ball like 3 times today that could had resulted in a goal against us. Against big teams, it could be unpardomable. Maybe it was because the coach played him on the left side. As for chukwueze, when lookman and Kalu returns na bench player he go be exvept drastic improvements happen

ChrisKels:
Onauchu seems to be a more clinical finisher than Osimhen, though Osimhen is a better all round striker.

Even simy sef is a better finisher but osimehn work ethic, hardwork, pressing and link up play thumps all of them

Tolulopefinest:
Chukwueze on his day is our best winger.
That 442 seems to be restricting him, not only him but the whole team

Not on this form. I will take lookman over him. Even onyekuru sef is better right now. Chukwueze has regressed. Only Ndidi and Zaidu position right now is guaranteed

Curtisaxel10:
To be honest, I still don't get the Osimhen hype. Dude wasted opportunity upon opportunity today. He did the same against Benin. Ighalo was far more lethal in converting chances in his time in the SE in my opinion. Osimhen really needs to up his game, pressing is not everything. If na pressing be the thing, Musa sef does a better job at that!.

Osimhen should do better. We won't be getting this many chances against big teams abeg. Chukwueze na another wahala altogether. That guy seems to have regressed from the Chukwueze we used to know. Rohr should do fast and get us Lookman or any other decent RWF abeg.

Yap I agree. He should buckle up because with simy, Sadiq and terem waiting on the sideline, our 9 shirt is open for Grabs. As for Chukwueze, when lookman and Kalu returns, he will Rightfully drop to the bench

andrewbaba44:
Agreed

The difference is too clear uzoho fit be ein papa sef (I'm joking I'm joking) but uzoho is better to me

JayromWrites:
Paul's gameplay is suspect I swear


If not for the goal, he would have had a bad game

Certainly not someone I will like to lead the line for Nigeria from the start

He scored a nice goal though

stop lying

Subzero047:
I will say it again

Ebuehi is FAR better than Aina

Lol on the basis of these 2 games, I agree. But it was Lesotho.

Toylove:
But but the Portuguese league is a farmer's league na

Fc Porto isn't a Farmers club tho. The club 1st then the league.

Bayern is one of the best clubs but they're in a farmer's league

I think we played well today irrespective of the scoreline. We created chances, hit the cross bar, shots on targets despite already qualifying with 2 games to spare. The most impressive player on the pitch was "Zaidu" and ironically he is the only one playing at the last 8 of the Champions league. - The exact reason why I always advocate for our players to play at the best clubs in the world. There's Quality and there's Quantity.

Ola Aina was disappointing I was one of his biggest advocate at RB but if he keep playing this way, he will remain a back up to ebuehi and Awaziem at rb. Akpoguma at RB is a No no

Zaidu - MOM for me was world class today

Ekong and Balogun were shaky, uncomfortable with the ball but sadly there are no better replacement for now so we have no choice

Chukwueze - Disappointing talented but unprofessional.

The best players on the pitch today

1) Zaidu MoM
2) Onyekuru I was very impressed by him and to me he is better than Kalu, Simon, at LW

JohnBullMySon:
Go and check our group layout when we lost the last two times. Try and appreciate, don't always criticise as if you know better.

Na you respond to the slowpoke. A country that failed to qualify to back to back ANC is now trivalizing qualifying for ANC with 2 games to spare

Philosopher1979:
Rohr should try Iyayi Beleive Atiewmen of Dinamo Zagreb, Kingsley Sokari in Tunisia or Destiny Ashadi in our local league as
an option in attacking midfield.
The problem with Rohr is that he does not try options when it comes to attacking midfield

Below farmers league players for SE? You must be smoking osogbo weed. Let them move to a better league and prove themselves and Rohr will call them

BOOOMNAIJA:
Good riddance to bad rubbish...iwobi is overhyped and overrated (I don't care what anybody thinks)....dude literally SPOILS SMOOTH PASSAGE OF PLAY...if he were in today's match, he would easily be a soft target for d Benin players to disposses at will, cos he's d weakest link in our midfield, whether u like it or not...I've watched our match with Sierra Leone severally and he easily gave d ball away to d more desperate Sierra Leone midfielders... he's too lackadaisical in his play... dude thinks he has arrived and believes he's d best thing to av happened to our game in ages, thanks to our coach who keeps starting him, and he would av also started him today if not for covid... nonsense!...

Go back and watch our matches at d last nations cup...iwobi lost so many balls in d midfield and our opponents capitalised on that on several occasions, sometimes even making us conced goals.

Its high time we told ourselves d truth, iwobi is overrated and fast becoming d weakest link in d team as a whole.

Dude isn't overhyped for Nigeria tho. 9 in 44 he will score more than okocha and kanu for Nigeria.

This Rohr guy must have some Goodluck touch in qualifying us for Tournaments. It hasn't been this easy since the 90's dude qualified us again with 2 games to spare

If iwobi ends up playing this game today, owngoalnigeria should be banned here for posting false news if he doesn't play today, we can hold them at a higher esteem for publishing privy informations

TheGoodJoe:
By 1999, Ronaldinho was not even among the top starts in the Brazilian national team. We had the likes of Bebeto, Ronaldo De Lima, Rivaldo etc.

I guess that tournament was mainly a team B of Brazil.

You keep embarrassing yourself not only did he win the confederation cup as the best player and top scorer in 1999, he also won the Copa America the same year in the RRR trio. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and rivaldo.

andrewbaba44:
You should know it was a mistake nah ,I was meant to write 73

If you had read the comment of the guy I quoted you will know it was a typo

Lool I no even see say na my guy right am. Nwanne sorry joor. Me sef I shocked go check Google lol pele

andrewbaba44:
You want him to score more than once when he spent 95 percent of the season on the injury bed ? My broda I hail you ooo maybe he should have scored with broken legs

Dembele is always good anytime he plays and that’s the fact ,this season he hasn’t battle with injuries and has been playing well for Barca so far and winning games so dembele is no flop

And why are you saying haaland will flop at United ? Still don’t understand you

Dembele 16 league goals in 17 appearance is only on league games and check the minutes you will see that’s it’s not bad ,dude wasn’t even a goal scorer at bvb so don’t expect a Neymar stats

Dembele 16 league goals in 17 appearance for what club?? Let's stop this misinformation here abeg

TheGoodJoe:
Being abusive in your words will not give your point weight.

Iniesta was a key part of one of the best sides, if not the best club side in the history of club football. In that time they won the Chmpions League three times. Cleared La Liga titles. Won two European Cup of Nations and the World Cup.

It is not to slap, kick abuse to make points.

In that period Iniesta reigned, it was longer than that of Ronaldinho.

It is not just personal accolades but reign at the top.

Iniesta's Longevity at the top beats Ronaldinho.

Finito.

My friend, in the history of world cup, Klose has more world cup goals than anyone. But can you boldly say that klose was a better striker than Ronaldo da lima, Pele, Thierry Henry, Batistuta?? Some players won everything in football before a certain age and they weren't motivated to be consistent due to lack of motivation. So you can just use Longevity as a measurement of a player ability. This is how you judge who was better between the two.
In the best of Iniesta which to me was 2008 to 2013
Vs the best of Ronaldinho which to me was. 1999 to 2006
Who was better? In fact, Ronaldinho prime (2003 - 2006) can possibly be the best football player that I have witnessed.


The likes of Iniesta should be competing against the likes of nedved, Xavi, pirlo, Rivaldo, modric, figo, Raul, stoickov
While the likes of Ronaldinho are in competition against
Zidane, messi, maradona, Ronaldo da lima, Cristiano, Pele, Cryuff

Iniesta ahead of Ronaldinho?? sometimes the type of nonsense that people spew here warrant a dirty slap. It is almost like people try to wind others by starting an unquestionable debate for argument purposes

TheGoodJoe:
"Chelsea destroyed the player Mikel once was," Siasia says, groaning. "They did a lot of damage to Nigerian football. Here was a young, enterprising midfielder who was going to be like Jay-Jay Okocha. He was about opening up defences, not protecting them."

Thinking of Mikel Obi always hurts me. The loss to football was too huge. Why did Chelsea not leave him for Manchester United? Mourinho did not need him at all. He had Makelele and Essien. Chelsea could sign any World class defensive midfielder they wanted.

Why sign one of the most gifted creative midfielders ever and convert him to a defensive midfielder?

I hate thinking of it.

You guys are seriously delusional saying Chelsea destroyed Mikel. Yes, mikel started his football as a CAM before signing for Chelsea and was utilized as a CDM initially and eventually. But please did Chelsea sign mikel on a lifetime contract? No. Mikel could had left the club even after 1 season if he felt unjustified at his position so please cut that crap. There are no guarantees that he would even had succeeded at man utd. A player that has 2 epl
4 fa cups
2 europa leagues
1 CL
2 carling cup

For Chelsea and even played in almost all finals is described as "failed"

BascoVanVeli:
Where did u read Onyekuru in that statement? I am saying he should have been on the main list and u are mentioning someone on standby. I didn't even speak in the direction of who should be dropped.

Rohr places emphasis on playing competitions like champions league and Europa, so why is he ignoring a player who has thrived in both. Forgiveness asked a legitimate question.

You can't say that he should be on the main list when the main list players are better than him. Who is olayinka better than among
Simom Moses
Chukwueze
Iheanacho
Umar
Osimehn
Kalu


Sometimes, people just sit down and comment to create unnecessary arguments. You want a farmers league player to displace an experience big 5 players without earning it? My friend Mechionu gi

Rohr is already saying that "Benin hasn't lost at home in years" indirectly using an excuse assuming we don't win. This is one of my biggest issues with him. Always being pessimistic or conservative. Yes, everyone should be duly respected but when you keep downplaying yourself, don't be surprised if you don't win.