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Islam And Under Age Marriage! by abdulkayus(m): 9:27pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
The "Under-age" Marriage with consummation (I.e. carnal knowledge, sexual intercourse) is not permitted in Islam, a girl has to reach the age of puberty before marriage can be consummated (I.e. carnal knowledge, sexual intercourse) . But Islam permits the betrothal, engagement and marriage of a girl even at birth and of-course this has always been the practice of many cultures in Africa and the world over. However , the girl might grow up and refused to be married to the man she is betrothed, engaged or married to at birth - either due to religion or lack of love. Her permission must be sought before the marriage could be consummated. There is no forced marriage in Islam. The Prophet (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) did not approve of forced marriage. He [the best of mankind] (saw) is the best example for us to follow. Allahu Allam....Allah knows best. 64 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by tpia5: 4:45am On Jul 21, 2013 |
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Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by siddiq202(m): 7:06am On Jul 21, 2013 |
^The Original post is in english language! 20 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by tpia5: 7:10am On Jul 21, 2013 |
i was referring to the new nigerian law. |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by vedaxcool(m): 7:32am On Jul 21, 2013 |
[quote author=siddiq202]^The Original post is in english language![/quote ] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by siddiq202(m): 7:45am On Jul 21, 2013 |
tpia@:The recent law has noting to do with your question. The law is about "renunciation of citizenship" in which the senate passed that only 18 years and above have the right to. Senator Yerima wanted married girls below 18 years old to enjoy such right too which led to another voting. The outcome made senate to declare girls married below 18 to "have come of age" in order to be entitle to the right. That's all 13 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by tpia5: 7:59am On Jul 21, 2013 |
i still dont get the connection. how many girls are trying to renounce their citizenship, which citizenship, what's wrong with dual citizenship which nigeria allows, and last but not least, what's the correlation between renouncing citizenship and underage marriage? how many underage girls are trying to renounce their citizenship? why is the senate prioritizing renunciation of citizenship for underage girls? Is this a human trafficking issue? 10 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by BetaThings: 9:22am On Jul 21, 2013 |
Is this not a matter of MARRIAGE - bride, parents, their consent, groom, witnesses, in the open, according to accepted law? I am not sure that we are discussing side betting illicitly done in contravention of customs and acceptable laws of consent and due process |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by bntY: 11:35am On Jul 21, 2013 |
siddiq202:^God bless you.The uproar that greeted the bill didn't suprise me going by d unpopularity of Yerima among nigerians but d magnitude of folly even among d learned baffles me.The new law has nothing to do with promotion or endorsement of childmarriage as claimed. As you rightly pointed out,d new law seeks to secure d rights of women rather than trample it.Chapter 3,section 29,subsection 4b,states that a married woman can renounce her citizenship irrespective of her age unlike before when she has to be 18years to take that decision.To d lawmaker that ratified d bill,being 'old enough' for marriage also places d responsibility of your citizenship on your shoulders.Isn't that a laudable Idea? I have heard of prejudice, but i hav never seen it patently displayed with imprudence and grandeur like this! 7 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by makemoneynow(m): 12:04pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
The bill is let me use the word hyprocisy at its highest islam teaches that a girl hat to attain the age of puberty before consumating her some people say the Prophet married a girl of 6 and consumated at the age of 9 okay what was he waiting for 4 3 years he was waitin 4 her to get matured and attain d age of puberty and lets remember dat girls quickly atained d age of purberty at dat time also lets remember mary the mother of jesus in d bible got pregnant at the age of 13 so she was matured then so anyone that defiles a girl that has not attained the age of puberty is a sinner 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by makemoneynow(m): 12:27pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Pls people in as much as there are bad muslims tarnishing the image of islam there are also bad non muslims also tarnishing d images of their respective religion so do not judge any religion islam inclusive on d behaviour of their practitioners but judge on d text the laws look into it and get informed jst because water killed sme1 dos not mean we wil not drink water again if some so caled muslims decide to kill people unjustly does not mean muslims should be taged as terorist cos sme non muslims also kil unjustly 4 eg usa atacks on japan hiroshima nd nagasaki 2 b precise which up til 2day we can stil see d efects of dier atack so cos of dis we cant call americans terorist.we are all human beings irespective of dier faith creed or beleives as usual we must be either good or bad so b4 we belive any news lets verify it puleeez lets be informed 27 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
its my opinion that if one who is 18 years old, is allowed to resents citizenship, instead of older age, age of marriage should just be set at 18, so that no one can talk about underage, because the person should have reach puberty before and would be at the age the law accepts as age of decision making that affects the population, and there is no decision in the collective conscience of the citizens than this bordering how the society will continue to function. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by LagosShia: 1:37pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Muslims Reject Child Marriage And Absolve Islam Of The Blame Based On Facts https://www.nairaland.com/1366430/muslims-reject-child-marriage-absolve |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Nobody: 2:39pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
[size=15pt]pls if ur sugar daddy is as old as ur father , dont border 2 join d #under age# campaign, we re already fighting 4 u[/size] dis is just a way 2 mk all d unemployed youth forget abt their joblessness n get busy wit something at least . I no all dis big belly sen , na way 2 steal money b dis. It's a pity dat we focus more on dis , rahther than standing up n tak dem back to d days of obafemi awolowo , azikiwe, n odas. Even if dem pass d bill, doesnt mean dat one 1mbecile go knock 4 my door com 4 my 6yrs old daughter. If its whites vs blacks we go say na racism, bt now its just among us, in d name of fuck1ng religion, common sense ought 2 tell us wat is right n wrong. Let stand 4 one Nija without religion sentiment n segregation. Let peace reign in every nooks n crannies of Nija, Let peace b set at d top hill of Nija, Let peace b in d stead of religion, Let peace b d only legacy 4 d upcoming generations, Let peace b d only tin thought at school, Let peace pass across frm east 2 west n north 2 south, Let peace neva cease, Oh ye peace, I call on thee 19 Likes
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Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by nekaa(f): 2:42pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
make money now: The bill is let me use the word hyprocisy at its highest islam teaches that a girl hat to attain the age of puberty before consumating her some people say the Prophet married a girl of 6 and consumated at the age of 9 okay what was he waiting for 4 3 years he was waitin 4 her to get matured and attain d age of puberty and lets remember dat girls quickly atained d age of purberty at dat time also lets remember mary the mother of jesus in d bible got pregnant at the age of 13 so she was matured then so anyone that defiles a girl that has not attained the age of puberty is a sinnerMary was only 13? Please where in the bible is this written... I'd like to see for myself 27 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by free2ryhme: 2:43pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Shey boko haram no dis one do Your northern leaders know about dis |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Underage marriage is common in africa not only in "islam" its a common thing in the world. But wen it comes to nigeria d rate of underage marriage is more in the north. We r not talking abt fornication. Most of u r mistaking d two. Underage marriage is wen u force a girl for ages 0-17 to marry u nd when a gal has sex with an older man its different. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by vedaxcool(m): 2:43pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
RoyPCain: its my opinion that if one who is 18 years old, is allowed to resents citizenship, instead of older age, age of marriage should just be set at 18, so that no one can talk about underage, because the person should have reach puberty before and would be at the age the law accepts as age of decision making that affects the population, and there is no decision in the collective conscience of the citizens than this bordering how the society will continue to function. the problem is most Nigerians don't even what recent resolution was about,that has made people make comments that overlooked the real issue. 2 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Ibangap(m): 2:45pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Preach to me all you want, it doesn't change my perception of Islam and what it stands for........ A religion of Complete the sentence at ur own risk. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by babadey(m): 2:46pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
I hope this not offensive ooo. Prophet mohammed (SAW) married aisha @ the age of 6 and did sometin when she was 9 while he was 54 as it is written in the quran. What do you call this? 21 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by dridowu: 2:46pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Honestly, am speechless, religion issue is not a small matter @ all, one thing is certain i wont marry an underage child or will i allow someone to marry my future daughter at such tender age. |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
baba dey: I hope this not offensive ooo. Prophet mohammed (SAW) married aisha @ the age of 6 and did sometin when she was 9 while he was 54 as it is written in the quran. What do you call this?leave them make dem de deceive their selves. We can not be deceived. What rubbish. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by nagoma(m): 2:51pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Ms_Steph: Underage marriage is common in africa not only in "islam" its a common thing in the world. But wen it comes to nigeria d rate of underage marriage is more in the north. We r not talking abt fornication. Most of u r mistaking d two. Underage marriage is wen u force a girl for ages 0-17 to marry u nd when a gal has sex with an older man its different. And sex outside marriage is much more common in the south and including sex with unmarried underage girls and this decadent behavior has no age limit for the men either . Dirty old men are plentiful whether in the north or in the south, acclaimed Christians or acclaimed Muslims . One set of these perverts ( like Yarima) try to legitimize it. Through marriage. 4 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by eagleeye2: 2:51pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Abeg, those saying that the law is about citizenship should park well joor.... Yes that section of the Nigerian constitution may have been there, but why not just amend it and include both under-age boys and girls? Why, does it have to be Yerima and his hausa/fulani brothers that will constitute 95% of those that voted? Why can't we have a blanket law, both for the unmarried underage girls and married underage girls? Like tpia already asked, why not just allow the dual citizenship that the Nigeria law already provides? |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by ebucha: 2:53pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Tell this to Yerima |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Mickyboiz: 2:53pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
STOP IT!!! WE ARE AGAINST MARRIAGE TO KIDS! If Farida Waziri (EFCC), Okonjo-Iweala (Finance Minister), Dora Akunyili (NAFDAC), Aloma Mariam Mukhtar (Chief Justice of The Federation), Prof Ruquayattu Rufai (Education Minister) had married at age 14, would they have risen to the positions they held or holding in the society? In Nigeria, Its illegal to drink before 18yrs, drive before 18yrs, watch porn before 18yrs, too young to vote before 18yrs, then, why is the SENATE choose to legal marriage to Kids before 18yrs. Why Must The Senate Listen to Senator Yerima who Supposed to be In jail for Marrying an under-aged girl (13 year Old), when the Constitution of Nigeria states otherwise? STOP there Perverts, Paedophiles, Sex starved Old People from fiddling their shrinking, wicked and dying hands off our Kids Now! Sign the Petition! Please note that before 18yrs she needs a dictionary not a DICK, give her a pen not a PENIS, Give her money for textbook not for ANTENATAL, she should be playing swell with friends, not watching a sick pervert "SWELL" at her sight. Ask her for books not her BOOBS, give her good education not EJACULATION, she should be watching ben10, not going on ROUND 10. Its is completely wrong ethically, psychologically, socially and morally to give out a child for marriage underage. Allow Them to Grow and Make a Choice On who to be with, Not Selling them away in the Name of Marriage. 25 Likes
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Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by eagleeye2: 2:54pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
nagoma:you have a point.. But the Christain South is not trying to legalise under-age marriage, neither are they endorsing S,ex with Under-age girls. What these girls need is education and not marriage. What they need is a pen and pen!s 11 Likes |
Re: Islam And Under Age Marriage! by Mustay(m): 2:55pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
I decided not to comment on this issue cos this work did a comprehensive study on it concerning the Nigeria angle: http://telegraphng.com/2013/07/compatibility-of-the-child-rights-act-with-islamic-legal-principles/ However, we must note that permissibility doesn't necessarily equate unwarranted neccessity - often, mankind takes advantage of injuctions in mischievous manners. One has to consider the merits and demerits of actions which is in line with the Shariah for harm is highly discouraged. The Shariah itself is encompassing, thus it is a combination of a rules-based approach + principles-based approach. This reminds me of ethical issues surrounding genotype and artificial reproductive technologies. When it comes to mischief - Islam permits a man marrying up to 4 wives. Aside the condition to be fair and just if you're to take this step, some men take it upon themselves as an injuction that must be fulfilled notwithstanding the conditions attached. They take the part that suits them and abandon the other - for example, if any of the events in the report about ths Kano marriage stuff is anything to go by, some were a mockery of the injuctions. For example, if a man could prove that he had less than 4 wives, he could be given one of the eligible women thus making a mockery of marriage institution in Islam. Similarly, the conditions in divorce itself is often not followed. When one studies the conditions, it's more or less like a reconciliatory process than an abandonment exercise to ensure the individuals are so sure of the act disliked by The Creator. Ultimately, we do have those who deceive themselves. I have no position on any individual in this case but if we try to take one part and leave the other(s), we're guilty of our conscience for verily, "Allah Is never unjust to mankind, it is mankind that are unjust to themselves". The more reason why knowledge is an act encouraged by the prophet(pbuh) whilst Allah says, "know me before you worship Me". 8 Likes |
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