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Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 8:45am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Bidam: what is the source of this energy?Speaking like an atheist, are u one? Well to answer ur question. God is the source of all energy, God himself is pure energy, the ultimate form of energy. As any educated person would know, energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change from one form to another The entire universe is formed from God; he is the source of everything. The God of Israel as portrayed in the Bible is nothing more than the imagination of men, it makes no sense. 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 8:49am On Oct 14, 2013 |
nnofaith: Jesus visited hundreds of countries, he was in China, Japan, Australia, Brazil, the USA, Ethiopia, Nigeria etc. Working diligently to spread the gospel. If you check the book of Paul chapter 5 verse 6 you will see it there.lmao this guy funny die. am enjoying ur sarcasm anyway 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by worth(m): 9:02am On Oct 14, 2013 |
As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[/center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 9:05am On Oct 14, 2013 |
worth: As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[/center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom Did you have to post the same senseless thing 3 times? Pls take ur slave self out of here. Worshipping the God of another man when you have your God 3 Likes |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 9:08am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Okija_juju: Aw much is a bible sef? Why can't folks take out time and study? At the above bold, you really don't have a bible. Or maybe you can't read or maybe you just heard wrongly from sunday sch or maybe you are being sarcastic. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Okijajuju1(m): 9:11am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Gombs: What part of that summary was wrong?! Wasnt it hunger that brought them Jews into Egypt?! |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 9:28am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Okija_juju: This whole part "That was when Joseph went and Begged Pharoah to please accomodate his starvation and hunger ridden people. Now Pharoah graciouslyopened his doors to these Jews, not knowing that they were leaches that would never leave.. They stayed there and multiplied like rats and almost filled up the Egyptian lands with Jew babies" The funny part of it all is the "Not knowing they were leeches that would never leave" meanwhile exodus was about these folks wanting to leave. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 9:44am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Gombs: You are the one who doesn't understand the Bible. Look at you protecting the interest of your slave masters. At first the Jews loved it in Egypt, they began to act like they owned the land along side the aborigine Egyptians. The new pharaoh of fear that the Jews might plan to take over Egypt, or ally with their enemies. Decided to make them slaves, make them work for all the free enjoyment they have had. Now tell me if na u wey dem don turn to slave won't u want to leave? 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Mintayo(m): 10:03am On Oct 14, 2013 |
macof:smh...so many confused souls. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Mintayo(m): 10:04am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Gombs:I wonder o 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Isahalbash(m): 10:06am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Babaleye: Its really funny if people can't follow the trend of how the gospel was made available to all men. God changed his mind Babaleye: Its really funny if people can't follow the trend of how the gospel was made available to all men. God changed his mind Babaleye: Its really funny if people can't follow the trend of how the gospel was made available to all men. God changed his mind... ur god x indecisive.,,x he a human? |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 10:08am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Mintayo:I don't think a soul can be confused. But wat is your definition of SOUL? 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Okijajuju1(m): 10:10am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Gombs: They wanted to leave?!! Just like that?!! After how many years of free loading off of the Egyptian economy?! Like seriously?! SO because Pharoah decided that all Jews must start working to contribute to the Egyptian economy after free loading for over 430years.. they decided to leave?!! HELLS NO!! They owed Egypt and they had to pay.. They have been behaving like this all through the Bible.. Remember the way that Abraham also move to Ur, finished up all their food and vegetation and moved on like he was never there.. My guy go and read your bible.. 430 years old refugee no be small thing! 2 Likes |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Lilimax(f): 10:15am On Oct 14, 2013 |
As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord Almighty; Jehovah, the Man of War... We have made the choice follow Him and will serve him all the days of our life. Peace! |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 14, 2013 |
macof:Nope,i am a christian..You failed to follow the thread of the post that led me to ask you this question.The problem with you guys is that you assume too much. Well to answer ur question.Atleast you admit this part and you are not far from the truth,even the bible state that God is LIGHT. As any educated person would know, energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change from one form to anotherHow do you convince millions of uneducated folks?It all boils down to man made philosophies which was my argument with the other poster.You said someone needs education.Can education be taught WITHOUT BOOKS and imaginations? The entire universe is formed from God; he is the source of everything.I am not in disagreement with this assertion The God of Israel as portrayed in the Bible is nothing more than the imagination of men, it makes no sense.What about the God in your philosophical science book and fiction does it make sense?Is it not also MAN'S IMAGINATION? |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by presiade(m): 10:33am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Okija_juju:If Joseph did not save Egypt in the first place, where would Egypt or Pharaoh be about 430 years after...? 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Mintayo(m): 10:39am On Oct 14, 2013 |
presiade:hmmmm...flesh and blood did not reveal this to you! 1 Like |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by macof(m): 10:54am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Bidam: Nope,i am a christian..You failed to follow the thread of the post that led me to ask you this question.The problem with you guys is that you assume too much. You claim dat I assume too much, But your Bible is based on assumptions Many Years before books, schools and western style education, pagans have been educating themselves and learning science. This is not about what you learn in schools or in churches but what you realize with your common sense. Alexander the greatest war Lord ever to walk the earth was a pagan taught by Aristotle, Aristotle is one of the greatest philosophers and all his philosophies were realized with his common sense, his books were nt based on wat people say, or wat he read from other people. If a man could be dat great a philosopher through his common sense, wat stops any other other person? So education can be taught without books. All that I've posted is my philosophy, I know it's too hard for Abrahamics to accept because of their brainwashing but if you can step outside of the box u were born in and seek knowledge, you would realize the truth of Macof's philosophy of God For the record- I am pagan, and my paganic religion supports my philosophy 2 Likes |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by shakaz(m): 11:28am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Mhomies: This Israel that nairaland.com Christians are laying claims to is not even a Christian country after all.You just spoke my mind... Xtain nation indeed, and so you know the %75.4 Jews believe that Jesus is a bastard and Mary a prostitute. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by shakaz(m): 11:39am On Oct 14, 2013 |
macof: my brother you are blessed with wisdom.lol thatz my point exactly christains think they share the same view with jews.. I laff in swahili at their ignorance. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 11:41am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Mintayo: I dey tell you |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 11:53am On Oct 14, 2013 |
Okija_juju: Gadddamit! Exodus 1 7 But the descendants of Israel were fruitful and increased abundantly; they multiplied and grew exceedingly strong, and the land was full of them. 8 Now a new king arose over Egypt who did not know Joseph. 9 He said to his people, Behold, the Israelites are too many and too mighty for us [and they [a]outnumber us both in people and in strength]. 10 Come, let us deal shrewdly with them, lest they multiply more and, should war befall us, they join our enemies, fight against us, and escape out of the land. Compare you words in bold and the word in the bible I just quoted. If you still bliv your reasons are true, then I volunteer to send you a bible and a sunday sch teacher.
Umm BTW How did you calculate exactly 430yrs? Exodus 12:40-41 says the Hebrews spent 430 years in Egypt, although not all of this time is said to have been as slaves Meeeehn! You's lying, you shd be called Linus Abeg make we no derail this thread |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 11:55am On Oct 14, 2013 |
presiade: Wonderful kweshun |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by nokingasgod: 12:50pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
yaksnet: I have been pondering over this and I think each country or race or region has It's own special God and It's special sovereign rights bestowed on it by It's worshippers.... for example the God of Israel is a jealous God and a racist (don't really like other tribes of the earth) and this gives the Israelis a pride of race...also we see how he chose for himself a city which David captured from 'pagans'... one could easily think that the God of Jesus is different from the God of Elijah and Moses in respect to attitude towards sin...what ur view on this The God of Israel and that of Moses, Elijah and Jesus Christ is one and the same. What really gave the Israelites ''pride of place'' is that in the biblical times, they were the first race to come to the realization of Monotheism i.e. One universal God. But the approaches and understandings to/of this One God vary from one Israelites generation to the other and was determined by the prevalent situations and also the objectives of the various narrators. Hence, the God of Moses was painted as a jealous God, the God of Isaac was unkind, that of Jacob was unfair etc. In their understanding of this one God was still a lot of confusion, misunderstanding and manipulation and also insincerity of some of their prophets. When it became necessary for Christ to come, the most qualified race to host Him was naturally Israel simply because they, despite their hypocrisy, spiritual arrogance etc, they were the only monotheistic race on earth as at the time. Though like the other races, they too had drifted off the path but for that singular act of monotheism, they were the closest to ''the light'' so, they were ''chosen'' to host Christ because it would be easier for Christ to achieve His mission on the soil closest to the ''track'' than otherwise. Yes, they, the Israelites still went ahead to murder Him but by then, He had concluded His work of Redemption of mankind. If the Israelites as the most spiritually advanced race could not understand Christ, one only need to imagine what the consequence would have been if He had been raised among other races. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Nobody: 1:04pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
[quote author=macof]Nope,the bible is inspired not assumed.TWO different meanings. Many Years before books, schools and western style education, pagans have been educating themselves and learning science. This is not about what you learn in schools or in churches but what you realize with your common sense.The pagans you mentioned use their IMAGINATION. You still use books to learn with your common sense.You re rather sidetracking my points and not making sense here. Alexander the greatest war Lord ever to walk the earth was a pagan taught by Aristotle, Aristotle is one of the greatest philosophers and all his philosophies were realized with his common sense, his books were nt based on wat people say, or wat he read from other people. If a man could be dat great a philosopher through his common sense, wat stops any other other person?You ve not made any point.His books are still his imaginations..philosophical views differ from ages to ages.Aristotle thought and taught the WORLD WAS FLAT.How about holding on to his view. All that I've posted is my philosophy, I know it's too hard for Abrahamics to accept because of their brainwashing but if you can step outside of the box u were born in and seek knowledge, you would realize the truth of Macof's philosophy of GodThen it's best you don't impose your vain philosophies on men who differ from your views,best you keep it and tolerate their views.Smart philosophers don't condemn others.They learn . If na lie ask PAUL and the greek philosophers during his era.. For the record- I am pagan, and my paganic religion supports my philosophyYeah..yeah..keep it and enjoy. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by nokingasgod: 1:08pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
[/b][b][b][/b] The truth sayer: Am sorry for saying this becoz i dnt knw if it may hurt some1. The real/correct bible was changed by ancient chriatian leaders, after changing it, they then hide the real bible of prophet ISAH(jesus{a.s}) so that we the end people will not see the truth about God and his Messengers. Beer with me, just think, have u ever seen where Qur'an verse was changed? or even a single alphabet was changed from the holy Qur'an?. I can remember this year(about last 4-5month) that was shown in many satelite chanel medias that 1 of the hidden real bible is in TURKEY, but the holders request for a great amout of money for each page of it for them to release it, but i dont knw why no1 cares about it again. Pls and please am sorry if it hurts u, thank u for beering with me......... Sure you got your ''beerings'' right. Please tell, how many mugs of Gulder have you gulped before writing this |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by epospiky(m): 1:18pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
yaksnet: I have been pondering over this and I think each country or race or region has It's own special God and It's special sovereign rights bestowed on it by It's worshippers.... for example the God of Israel is a jealous God and a racist (don't really like other tribes of the earth) and this gives the Israelis a pride of race...also we see how he chose for himself a city which David captured from 'pagans'... one could easily think that the God of Jesus is different from the God of Elijah and Moses in respect to attitude towards sin...what ur view on this I guess you're kind of confused. I'm glad you brought up this topic to clear you doubt. There has always been God since creation, only that people have turned away from Him to worship their rather man made gods. Even at that time, there was a man who new that truly there's God and the Mightiest among all. The man was Abraham. He new that there is this God that made the whole universe and adoration cannot be given to Him with the imagination of human beings except He has revealed himself. It is with this "reasoning" that he decided to seek and know this God. He made this quest with faith and indeed God revealed Himself to him. God became pleased with Abraham and his quest and in this regards to that He decided to bless him and make him the father of all nations. It was a covenant indeed and God saw to it that it was fulfilled. You see, Israel(one of Abraham's descendants which later became a nation) is a nation selected and anointed by God to bring salvation and to reveal God's glory to all the nations of the earth in line with the covenant God made with Abraham. You see the born of contention is that it's kind of impossible to find something which stands alone. There'll always be many claiming the same quality but one MUST obviouly be unique and supreme. That is the case with God. We all know that there are gods who claim to possess the same ability with God. But God proved His Almightiness and Uniqueness in all the word. He is called the God of Israel because He had showed His mercy to first the Israelites. Now He has offered salvation through His only begotten son Jesus Christ and that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but gain eternal life. With that He is now called the God of all and all nations, my God and your God(when you accept him). He is a jealous God because He can't imagine you, whom He has created, serve other gods yet He allows you to make your choice, not forcing you to serve Him but letting you know the consequences.( how sweet and great!). He collected the lands of the pagans and gave it to the Israelites because those people serve gods and were trying to persuade and force the Israelites to their gods. The God of Moses, Elijah and Jesus is the same God. Don't be confused here. Jesus came to make it easier to serve God if only we trust and believe in him. He gave us the holy spirit, an advocate, which dwels in us to help us leave in faithfulness in God and to also reveal God's plans to us. OH ALMIGHTY GOD. HE WAS, HE IS AND HE IS TO COME. BE MAGNIFIED OH LORD AMONG THE NATIONS! Please ponder no more. Seek Him, know Him and you'll testify that there's none beside Him. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Forwetinnah: 1:24pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
Ibime: The people of Israel don't even recognise the Roman (Christian) version of their God, yet some Colomentality people will tell you God of Israel is the God of the world. That's right..typical Okrika Man |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by nokingasgod: 1:29pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
macof: Here's my rational and unbiased contribution as a good Yoruba pagan I promote knowledge and wisdom. I agree with you almost in totality but disagree with your perception of Jesus, the Christ. Christ may rightfully be termed the Son of God because He was and still is, a part of God deployed on earth out of the Love of God for Redemption of mankind. Apart from this, all other assertions you made, I think, are correct. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:37pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
presiade: Are you craze? Joseph did not save H.H the Pharaoh. The Pharaoh had a large enough well-trained Army to save the world. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:38pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
joe4christ: You are now on the right track my brother. Keep it Up. |
Re: Is The God Of Israel God Of ALL? by Gombs(m): 1:51pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
nokingasgod: [/b][b][b][/b] You funny abeg |
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