chukwudi44:

Did Timothy tell you that Mattew to Revelation is inspired by God or did he use the phrase "all scripture" .Who now told you that the letter of barnabas or acts of peter are not inspired?

To your other point.Yes I have seen other pastors praying for their congregation.Why didn't they allow them all to pray straight to Jesus? Why should he pray for them.

By the way who told you that Mary is no more? Where did you get that from?

Ukuts gp: So where is mary now if she is not in the grave. Or she ressurected like Jesus abi? Stop deceiving yourselves. No one has ever said that he/she is alive forever more it is only Jesus the king of kings. Mary has never made that claims. Read your bible well.
And where do you see churches praying with their pastor's names? Liar.
Imagine me praying and calling on mary to help me beg God to answer my prayers when the name of Jesus can do wonders in my life. I just laugh u guys. It is really funny sha. So where is mary now if she is not in the grave. Or she ressurected like Jesus abi? Stop deceiving yourselves. No one has ever said that he/she is alive forever more it is only Jesus the king of kings. Mary has never made that claims. Read your bible well.
And where do you see churches praying with their pastor's names? Liar.
Imagine me praying and calling on mary to help me beg God to answer my prayers when the name of Jesus can do wonders in my life. I just laugh u guys. It is really funny sha.

Enigma: @okpurukata

Let me ask you a question (in fact I have more than one but I will ask just one for now). Please note that this is in an attempt for both of us to understand why we have different denominations and other problems.

Also please note that I will be most grateful to hear an answer that you have thought through yourself rather than one based on what any institution or body might have said historically.

Question:

Would you call any of the Baptist Church, the Anglican Church or the Methodist Church -- a Church?

But I asked a question first. But to answer yours, they are churches. Since they all claim to profess Christ. Now why so many denominations and ideology? I am unbiased.

{Please, kindly give reasons/explanation for your answer, thanks.}

Ukuts gp: @okpurukata. Dont u know that many worship centres disguise themselve as church but they are shrine. U dnt nid a prophet to tell you that those churches are fake and satanic in disguise.

But i am most glad to tell you that where i worshipped do no such things.

Ukuts gp: @ chukwudi. From where also did u read in the bible that she did not die?

okpurukata: Enough digression and back to the topic. Why are there too many church denominations, competing and preaching different doctrines. If these catholic haters says they do not agree with the catholic church, fine. Why do they keep dis integrating. Is it that the same bible they claim that the Catholics don't know is further causing them confusion? I was just counting the number of Pentecostal churches on my street, almost 30 in number. Some of their pastors are even taking the selves to the police for one issue or the other bothering on competition. I wish one of these 'Bible Knowing Christians' can answer. Italo please keep off.

Ukuts gp: @ chukwudi. From where also did u read in the bible that she did not die?

Ukuts gp: @okpurukata. Dont u know that many worship centres disguise themselve as church but they are shrine. U dnt nid a prophet to tell you that those churches are fake and satanic in disguise.

But i am most glad to tell you that where i worshipped do no such things.

Ukuts gp: Now tell me. Is it physical death or spiritual? Which one are u talking about.
U cant even find a bible verse to support ur claims. I pity u. Tell me, is mary physically alive to pray for you or not.

Another question. Tell me, if mary didnt pray for u wont God answer ur prayer if u pray urself directly to him through christ?
Read matthew 7:7-9. Why dnt u believe that when you pray urself God will answer you. Must it be mary, mary and mary?

kcjazz:

The thread question is simple. Some folks have answered and there are no Catholic haters. The Bible talks about false prophets in the last days so why bother yourself over the pastors taking themselves to court?

No Christian will argue that every church is of God but most are, all we need is the gift of discernment. Again always remember the goal - the great commission.

Even in the Roman Catholic church, there are divisions past, present and future. Some the Church has taken responsibility and apologised (Read... Memory and Reconciliation, The Church and the past). In the USA there are churches still under RC with female priests, is that not division? Here in Nigeria, the Catholic Charismatics are always in trouble due to their perceived "pentecostal practices" . Recently a diocese rejected a new Bishop based on tribal sentiments. Do we now call them Devils cos of their disagreements?

The Bible says "For where two or three are gathered in My name, I am in there midst" -Matthew 18.20. Also where two or three are gathered disagreements happen. Let us avoid all this my church is better than yours arguments, the work is much. Focus!

okpurukata: My earlier response did not show. I said I asked the question first. However the denominations you mentioned are all churches, since they claim to profess Christ. But why the continued dis integration. I am unbiased but a bit bothered by the perpetual branching.

Ukuts gp: Did i told you dat i pray through my pastor's names. @chukwudi

kcjazz:

The thread question is simple. Some folks have answered and there are no Catholic haters. The Bible talks about false prophets in the last days so why bother yourself over the pastors taking themselves to court?

No Christian will argue that every church is of God but most are, all we need is the gift of discernment. Again always remember the goal - the great commission.

Even in the Roman Catholic church, there are divisions past, present and future. Some the Church has taken responsibility and apologised (Read... Memory and Reconciliation, The Church and the past). In the USA there are churches still under RC with female priests, is that not division? Here in Nigeria, the Catholic Charismatics are always in trouble due to their perceived "pentecostal practices" . Recently a diocese rejected a new Bishop based on tribal sentiments. Do we now call them Devils cos of their disagreements?

The Bible says "For where two or three are gathered in My name, I am in there midst" -Matthew 18.20. Also where two or three are gathered disagreements happen. Let us avoid all this my church is better than yours arguments, the work is much. Focus!

Ukuts gp: Why do we have so many different doctrines in churches today? Is the bible not one? Is God not one?.

Some will say pay tithe others will say no need. Some will say ladies can wear trouser others will say ladies should not wear trouser. Some will say, ladies must cover their hair others will say ladies should not cover their hair in church. Some will say, there is hell other will say there is nothing like hell fire. Some will say God is three in one others will say God is only one. Some will say u can pray through mary and jesus others will say pray only through jesus christ. Some will say fast others will say no need to fast. Some will say the earth shall be turned into paradise other will say there is no such thing, that we will all leave earth to heaven in the last day. Some will say give your first fruit offering other will say there no need for that anymore. Some will say we should worship God only on saturday which is the sabbath day others will say it is on sunday we should worship God. Some will say no christmas others will say there is christmas. Some will say christians can marry more than one wife other will say they cannot. Some say you can wear earing and fix nails others will say you must not wear earing and fix nail(for ladies). Some say you can do blood transfusion and take drugs others say you cannot do blood transfusion and take drugs that all you need is to apply faith. etc.

Somebody tell me, is this not confusion?. Hw can we know the truth now. Or who have a clear answers to the above different doctrines peddles by different denominations today. I wonder sha!

God help me o.

Ukuts gp: Hw can d church b unified into one doctrine

italo:

That's the problem. You know you are confused and you know that all these communities that people call "denominations" will only add to your confusion. YOU KNOW!

Yet the devil will not let you go into God's one true Church...and you allow him.

Jesus had so many controversial teachings which the Jews felt were contrary to scripture which are still under debate all over the world. E.g (whether Jesus is God or man; prophet or liar).

Do you see any similarities?

chukwudi44:
Italo has earlier given you the response.Go back and read

"He who lives and believes in me will never die."--Jesus Christ.

If Mary cannot pray for me why should your pastors pray for you

kcjazz: http://romancatholicwomenpriests.org/worshippingcommunity.htm



Please provide the names of these Churches. If you cant, would you kindly recant your statement.[b][/b]




This will do for now.

Bograd83: d reason is cos d way every1 sees God so is d way dy serve Him. Bible is 1,&there's only 1 God but xtian of 2day are serving 3 gods-trinity wc is an idol dats anoda reason y we see diff doctrine