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Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by millzbozz(m): 3:17pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Who wrote the Bible? Check all the Prophets, who wrote the Bible? The Bible was written in the year 1503 AD, according to the Jewish history, which is 501-years today—five hundred and one years. 2. By the year 2004, from the day the first Bible was written, complied and published, it is 501 years. The first Bible was written courtesy of the Vatican City because Titus conquered Jerusalem and carried all the parchments to Rome, because Rome was controlling the whole world. 3. That was why the name of the first Bible that was published in the world, which was published in Latin language, was called CODEX VATICANUS. Am I telling lies? Quote me wherever you go. There is no Reverend Father, there is no Pope, there is no Archbishop that does not know about this truth—CODEX VATICANUS! 4. It is 2001. Crosscheck it wherever you can. After going through this Message, you can go to All- Hallows Students’ Library. Meet the Rector of the Seminary. That is the highest library you can lay hand on in Onitsha. Or, you can go to National Archives, in Enugu. Go and crosscheck what I have said. 5. The next Bible after CODEX VATICANUS was published in the year 1506, in the city of Alexandra. It was also published in Latin language. It was titled: CODEX ALEXANDRINUS. You have to know the origin of these things. THE ORIGIN OF KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE The first English Bible was published in Elizabeth English or Shakespearian English. I will tell you the origin. It was due to the problem Prince James had in the Catholic Church. 7. Prince James was a son of King James of England. He was an arch Roman Catholic. He married Lady Catherine who was barren. But Prince James desired to have his own children. 8. The Roman Catholic was against polygamy. Thus, they stood against his marrying another wife. Prince James decided to go contrary to the order of the Catholic Church and took a second wife. The Archbishop of Rome decided he would never wed him. 9. Prince James decided to go with Church Missionary Society, which he later called the Church of England. What we call “Church of Nigeria” today or Anglican Church was CMS (Church Missionary Society). It was a mere society just like Scripture Union. 10. You must know the origin of the Anglican Church. 11. Therefore, Prince James went there. When he got there, he injected a revolution because he was in authority since his father died; he ascended the throne as a king. Then, he assembled English scholars and gave them a copy of CODEX VATICANUS to translate in the language of English— that is British language. 12. Remember that we are speaking English today is because we were colonized by the British. If the French had colonized us, we shall be speaking French language. That is why we have Anglophone countries. 13. Anglophone countries are the countries that were controlled by the British. Francophone countries are countries that were colonized by France. Do you get the Message? 14. King James assembled these scholars. It took them three years to translate the CODEX VATICANUS into the language of the English of that day. That English was Shakespearian language; examples are: YE, THOU, ART, SAYETH, and so many others which are not current English we speak today. 15. If you are conversant with Shakespeare, even though he is from England, it is not an American English. The language of King James Version is not an American language. It is purely British language. 16. When they finished it, the man decided to publish it. That is why it was published under his SEAL and handed out as a symbol of authority. The seal of a king is an irrevocable seal. That is why you can see it written as: THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION. 17. The whole thing was written after the belief of his majesty, the King of England under his seal and authority. Have you seen it? That is why you call it THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION. And it is being diligently compelled, everything remaining the same. 18. Can you translate from one language to another with hundred percent (100%) accuracy? Can you translate from Igbo to English with hundred percent (100%) accuracy? Can you translate from English to Igbo with hundred percent (100%) accuracy? No, is not possible. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Sweetapple007(f): 3:19pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Enigma:stop confusg urself the Roman catholic church is the first churcb! Calvinism ad luther are the fathers of pentecoastal churches ad they died mystersly. They were cursed by the pope f breakg away ad since then pentecostal contntnu to break away ad live in further confusn. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Sweetapple007(f): 3:31pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Those that say trinity is not is the bible read mattw28-19-20! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by BodyKiss(m): 3:32pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Pastor Olu T: Simple, 'cos we all understand things differently, and not forgetting the devil's factor Like having 4 jets? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by PrettySpicey(f): 4:06pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
It is called PROTEST. That is how it started, one man protesting against an already existing doctrine and that is how it's been spreading. They call it Holy Spirit Inspiration, I call it Dividing the Body of Christ. At the end, May God help us all. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 4:19pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Bograd83: dear frnd, do u church? There is only 1 church dat Jesus is coming to take. D church dat beliv only d doctrine of Christ You said earlier that "in the world today, 1 out of 100 are God's Churches." I said show me these God's Churches that teach God's doctrine. Answer honestly, Christian lady. "I dont know" is not a sin. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 4:28pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
italo: Don't say things blindly. It is clear that you don't even know the origin of the bible. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by tete7000(m): 4:31pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
paulcr7: Revelation 17 talks about Babylon and her daughters.A woman represent a church and babylon represent apostasy(Genesis 11).The harlot woman means the a church united with d state(rev 17:2,rev 13:1-2,Daniel 2:41), in enforcing its doctrines,killing the saints of God that are true to the bible alone.(rev17:6).This happened in d dark ages when roman govt under constantine united with the papacy and also persecuted the saints.Babylon represent the roman church but rev 17:5 talks abt d daughters of Babylon.That means there are many apostate churches with false doctrines.Baptism by sprinkling,change of sabbath,worshiping images,giving the pope the power to forgive sins(righteousness by works),immortality,purgatory,spiritualism,heaven&hell after death.All these doctrines originated from d roman church and all who hold any of these doctrines are daughters of Babylon.However,rev 12 talks abt a pure and holy woman representing God's true church.The woman is a singular woman.These are some of the characteristics of God's true church.1.it will arise after the dark ages(rev 12:5),after 1798.2.it will be a remnant(Minority)-vs 17.3.it will keep all of God's commandments including the 4th.vs 17.4.it will av d spirit of prophecy-rev 19:10.5.it will be a world wide church-mathew 28:19,20.6.It will be persecuted like in the dark ages by the coming together of church and state(rev12:17,rev 13).If u can study the book of revelation,u will find other characteristics.However,God has many children in many churches that are faithful to him but he is calling us to find the one true church and go there(rev 18:4,5).The dark ages will come again and those who unite with God's church will be persecuted just like the waldenses.Babylon is going to fall(rev 18:21-24) and God is still calling us to come out of it,so that we will nt receive d mark of d beast.Today,churches are teaching human traditions rather than the pure word of God.Truth is no longer absolute but relative.the standards are going down.A national sunday law will be passed soon and God's people will be persecuted.Come out of babylon is the call.There is only 1 church that fulfils these characteristics and God is calling his children to unite to his church."in d matter of conscience,the majority has no power".Lets follow the truth because its true and nt because it is popular.Truth has never been popular and the remnant has always been persecuted.God is calling us to uplift his laws above every human traditionYour argument lacked logic. If catholic church is the bane of division, why is it that long after Martin Luther separated from the church there continue to be division among those of you that bought his idea? Funny as it may sound, I am sure the church you attend doesn't even share any semblance with the Lutheran Church. Worse still among the modern Pentecostalism there is no agreement as to what should be and what should not. Rebellion is the root of division. Whatever rebellion starts, rebellion continues to propagate. As for me and my household there is one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. I refuse to take part in jamboree happening around where everyman simply wakes up and claim authority to know that for which his source of inspiration is subject to questioning. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 4:33pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Sweetapple007: stop confusg urself the Roman catholic church is the first churcb! Calvinism ad luther are the fathers of pentecoastal churches ad they died mystersly. They were cursed by the pope f breakg away ad since then pentecostal contntnu to break away ad live in further confusn. OK , I will take your advice to stop confusing myself! Maybe, you can even help me? This Roman Catholic Church that you speak about: is it the same Church that we see discussing in Acts 15 when the apostle James spoke for the Church? does it include the historic Church of Antioch where we know that the apostle Peter actually was for some time? is it the same Roman Catholic Church that says no man can be saved outside that Roman Catholic Church? Would you say that somebody like Athanasius or Cyril of Jerusalem or Polycarp of Smyrna etc etc etc is/was a member of this Roman catholic Church? Meanwhile, if you need help with my question so that you can better help me to stop confusing myself please read the following thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1257440/catholic-catholic-back-catholic |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by FECOSON: 4:39pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Romans 16:17-18 New International Version (NIV) 17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned.Keep away from them.18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ,but their own appetites.By smooth talk and flattery they deceivethe minds of naive people |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 4:40pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
adsonstone: Some of them do not know the origins of the Bible and have been sold a dummy by their denomination. Others know better but also choose to join with the falsehood and even fraud of their denomination/organisation --- especially the Roman Catholic denomination. Here are some threads where the origin of the Bible has been discussed: https://www.nairaland.com/1039359/canon-bible-roman-catholic-church https://www.nairaland.com/1257440/catholic-catholic-back-catholic 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by tete7000(m): 4:41pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Enigma:Mr., rather than come here to quote a thread; do yourself a favour by going online to read extensively about origin and history of Christianity. Secular sources like wikipedia will even do you more good. Its a pity that plenty like you have never taken their time to do a thorough search of that which they claim to believe. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 4:47pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
adsonstone: No point. No reasons. No case. Just a blind declaration you've made. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 4:47pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
^^ Read the thread! I did the thread. Read it and educate yourself; I promise it would do you good. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Sweetapple007(f): 4:47pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Enigma:the church of st peter! Jesus said to peter on him he wil build his !church the gate of hel shal not pravail! |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 4:50pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
^^ So the Church of St Peter is the Apostolic Church and also the Pentecost Church. The Roman Catholic Church denomination came much later. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 4:52pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Long live the mother church Long live the compiler of the bible Long live the church of the apostles Long live the holy catholic church Existing since 33CE 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Sweetapple007(f): 4:55pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
The church start frm the catherg of saint to the Roman catholic when it became fully merged to present day pentecoastalism that is stil dividg it self. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 5:00pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
^^^^ I can see the Apostolic Church and the Pentecost Church on the day of Pentecost but I can't see the Roman Catholic Church denomination there ---- because it came later. What about the Church in Corinth? Or the Church in Thessalonica? Or the Church in Ephesus? Or the Church that met in Prisca's house? When did those become part of the Roman Catholic Church denomination? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by TropicalDr: 5:08pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Have you discussants heard about the Early church fathers? (they are first few generation disciples of the Apostles). From their writing we can get to know what the Apostles taught them about the faith and its practices. Thank God for the information age it is easier getting their writings than before. They include Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smynr both students of John the longest surviving Apostle, Ireneus student of Polycarp and Clement of Rome student of Peter the Apostle just to mention a few. Most of the questions you have, have been asnwered before by them. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 5:16pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Tropical_Dr: Have you discussants heard about the Early church fathers? (they are first few generation disciples of the Apostles). From their writing we can get to know what the Apostles taught them about the faith and its practices. Thank God for the information age it is easier getting their writings than before. They include Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smynr both students of John the longest surviving Apostle, Ireneus student of Polycarp and Clement of Rome student of Peter the Apostle just to mention a few. Most of the questions you have, have been asnwered before by them. The Church Fathers will always lead any reasonable person to the Catholic Church. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by iamonlyaugust(m): 5:18pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
italo: I will tell you why.Hey Italo. To be candid, I really love your diatribe on this thread. It's unusual, but susceptible. But for me, I'd love to have a debate with you anytime about this moot issue têtê-à-têtê. The argument, I presume, won't be quite enlightening here. Help pick a date here in lagos, precisely any weekend, and a palatable venue and let's do it. Safe. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 5:20pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Tropical_Dr: Have you discussants heard about the Early church fathers? (they are first few generation disciples of the Apostles). From their writing we can get to know what the Apostles taught them about the faith and its practices. Thank God for the information age it is easier getting their writings than before. They include Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smynr both students of John the longest surviving Apostle, Ireneus student of Polycarp and Clement of Rome student of Peter the Apostle just to mention a few. Most of the questions you have, have been asnwered before by them. Interesting! And do you see that those I bolded were NOT Roman Catholics. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 5:20pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
chukwudi44: rom the verses of scripure i showed you, Jesus says 'if you asked anything in my 'name' i will do it'. Tell me what is d use of praying through mary's name when he (Jesus) can give u anything u ask through his name. We can only get access to the father through Jesus alone and no other because he shed his spotless blood for us on calvary. It is even an insult on the only begotten son of God praying in mary's name. Study James 5 |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 5:26pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
adsonstone: how does that contradict me asking mary to pray for me? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by COYG: 5:26pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Must say I am impressed with maturity of majority of the commenters here in not mentioning names and not taking the thread personal. With that been said, I want you guys to ponder on d following questions as you comment: -What if Christ came when humans have not discovered the act of writing, how could the teachings be preserved? - With reference to the above question, would christianity be extint by now? -Peter, Paul, Silas, etc, never opened any church in Rome, Corinth, theselonia, etc by writing to them. They only wrote to encourage, advice or warn. So, how were these people practising their christianity in the absence of the disciples and their leters? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Tropical_Dr: Have you discussants heard about the Early church fathers? (they are first few generation disciples of the Apostles). From their writing we can get to know what the Apostles taught them about the faith and its practices. Thank God for the information age it is easier getting their writings than before. They include Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smynr both students of John the longest surviving Apostle, Ireneus student of Polycarp and Clement of Rome student of Peter the Apostle just to mention a few. Most of the questions you have, have been asnwered before by them. bros dont even waste your time debating with trolls on this site.Before you debate with anyone just check his/her post history.Some people are just meant to be ignored |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Syncan(m): 5:31pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Hahahaha, bros I just de laugh, some cry baby trolling the thread , yet no attention, I just de laugh since. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 5:33pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Yeah, the matter dey tru tru pain my crybabies. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
COYG: Must say I am impressed with maturity of majority of the commenters here in not mentioning names and not taking the thread personal. you will have to study about patristics to really get a feel of what the early church was like.Look up the writings of the early church fathers most notably SS Ignatius of antioch,Polycarp of smyrna,Clement of Rome,Ireaneaus of Lyons,justin Matyretc |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by beula2009: 5:35pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
More reasons to hate RELIGION. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 17, 2013 |
Syncan:na who even get time for trolls.I have been ignoring trolls since 1940s 1 Like |
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