*Kails*:
ok so i am not religious...but i believe in God...do i qualify?

No.

Uyi Iredia:

No.

Umm Iredia, I thought you were a Deist?

*Kails*:
ok so i am not religious...but i believe in God...do i qualify?

Sure. Your interest counts as open mindedness.

The deist concept is actually interesting. It would have been a much better concept than the MONOTHEISM which according to Gore Vidal is and i quote

"The great unmentionable evil at the center of our
culture is monotheism. From a barbaric Bronze Age
text known as the Old Testament, three anti-human
religions have evolved - Judaism, Christianity, and
Islam. These are sky-god religions. They are, literally,
patriarchal - God is the Omnipotent Father - hence
the loathing of women for 2,000 years in those
countries afflicted by the sky-god and his earthly male
delegates."

Hmmm...so open minded Christians are not allowed?

texanomaly: Hmmm...so open minded Christians are not allowed?

Sure. I believe most of us started out as being open minded religious persons. I count open mindedness as a first step of question asking that is often the first step toward enlightenment.

Secularist:

Sure. Your interest counts as open mindedness.

cool!

Uyi Iredia:

No.

hater.

Secularist:

Sure. I believe most of us started out as being open minded religious persons. I count open mindedness as a first step of question asking that is often the first step toward enlightenment.

Hahaha

OK. You, and every other atheist I've met here. Its nice to meet you. I do like to research different religions. Interesting stuff.

I do not want to be an atheist, but I am interested in the concept. Several friends have piqued my curiosity. I am way to emotional to ever be logical. I'm afraid.

texanomaly:
Hahaha

OK. You and every other atheist I've met here. Its nice to meet you. I do like to research different religions. Interesting stuff.

I do not want to be an atheist, but I am interested in The concept. Several friends have peaked my curiosity. I Am way to emotional to ever be logical I'm afraid.

It is nice to meet you too.

I understand what you mean. Your being eager to learn sets you apart from those who would blindly cut down what they dont understand, and quite frankly if more religious people just listened a bit instead of writing things off there would be a bigger shot at peace in the world.

I respect your courage, i know, i was in your shoe once.

texanomaly:
Hahaha

OK. You and every other atheist I've met here. Its nice to meet you. I do like to research different religions. Interesting stuff.

I do not want to be an atheist, but I am interested in The concept. Several friends have peaked my curiosity. I Am way to emotional to ever be logical I'm afraid.

so sad there's no heaven

you're the perfect candidate, such honesty!

Secularist:

It is nice to meet you too.

I understand what you mean. Your being eager to learn sets you apart from those who would blindly cut down what they dont understand, and quite frankly if more religious people just listened a bit instead of writing things off there would be a bigger shot at peace in the world.

I respect your courage, i know, i was in your shoe once.

Well thanks. I frequent chat rooms, and threads that are irreligious. I also like the Christian chat. Lolz. I even hang out in the Satanic chat room. Alfa is an interesting character. I would like to learn more about Islam, but I'm not sure I'm welcome in the Muslim section.

Secularist:

Please NAH! Oya am a slave, i have chains on and all, u happy now?

Just leave this thread. If you are fascinated by atheist perhaps you should become one instead of chastising. I could send you Dawkin's book if you want. Send me your email and i'd send it to you now. You can keep yourself occupied with that for the time being.

If you only want to constitute a nuisance and wonder why we are smarter than you then google it, your answers are there. Please bro, go away before our intelligence on important matters confuse you.

pls send it to me. will send my email

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Mr Troll: so sad there's no heaven

you're the perfect candidate, such honesty!

Well aren't you sweet.

I'm no 4 right now.
Please we need more women to start questioning religion so we can make these pastors non muhfugging factors. You all should come out of the closet.

Ihedinobi:

You edited it without telling me na. Is it my fault that I quoted your unedited post?

After much much sha, na still dust you yarn!

Religious philosophy is a well-defined field in itself. There are skill sets necessary to operating effectively in it and you do not acquire them by merely reading the Bible. That much is an established fact. Established by the existence of academies and fellowships that regulate the field.

It's the rather silly arrogance that drives you to make such a curious statement that also drives Dawkins to debate established theologians on things he knows zilch about. And fill every argument he makes against theism and religion with pungent brain farts.

Another false accusation.

I never edited anything.

You christians try too hard at BS...


Are you telling me that you are not qualified to debate about the bible? Because you are telling me that all what you been discussing on Nairaland religion section is out of ignorance because you're not a theologian?

Reyginus: Lol. Once again, how you think! How do you expect a theologian in a 'formal atheist' debate?

Much ignorance, sir.

Theologians are the ones that should be in atheist debates.

Secularist: Word!

I dont believe in absolutes also, but i find it hard to impossible to believe in a God who created man and caused him to war with each other and blame it on his other creation, the devil. I find such a god malevolent and non deserving of any kind of adoration or worship.

I am not a 7 based on my lack of belief in absolutes, but in my case it would not matter if such a god existed or not, my mind is set on my idea of him.

If truely this supernatural power do not exist, how do you think the universe came about? and how did life come about?

nwuyag: @ secularist
nw27788888888888888@gmail.com

Done.

lady gogo: I'm no 4 right now.
Please we need more women to start questioning religion so we can make these pastors non muhfugging factors. You all should come out of the closet.

YES O! I could not agree more! Religion has done nothing but put you in guys at the mercy of men for way too long!

JMAN05:

If truely this supernatural power do not exist, how do you think the universe came about? and how did life come about?

Dude, i am really not here to have a debate with you. May you go to heaven and all that, me and you no get discussion O.

Ihedinobi:

Maybe sometimes. My own na epic boredom! When you argue the same thing over and over and over again, you start asking how anyone sees any sense in some things. Then you get epically bored. Then you don't argue. Then you're silent. Then you restrain yourself from speaking.

@ihedinobi GBAM!! Same Old arguments, just a different day.

@Uyi & Josh Lol! Y'all got me there.. I greet Una.

nice thread.....following up with great interest
PS-i think some peeps unknowingly have d wrong idea about the word 'theology'

There is this quote i like so so much

[b]“Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night.

Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else.

Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn then, free to scrawl own design on this morally blank world.

Was Rorschach.
[/b]

We have fought so many wars in the name of an imaginary friend for so so so long, i dont expect this to stop soon, but i do believe we can change things dramatically for the next generation of Nigerians. For atheism to thrive one need only bring light to a few flaws of religion to another of an open mind, the rest would reveal itself to them. I believe we must take the pains to indoctrinate the next generation in the truth or run the risk of letting their religious parents alone be in charge of this.

It is funny, to shatter religion all one has to do is look at it objectively.

@secularist, Are you implying man is himself's greatest enemy cos GOD is not behind the evil he does or because he's deluded wid d concept of GOD?!?

lana_Vello: nice thread.....following up with great interest
PS-i think some peeps unknowingly have d wrong idea about the word 'theology'

The thing is that people dont realise that theology is nothing more than a sham. Studying holy books and religion. It is even debated whether it should be in universities

"Since the early nineteenth century, various different approaches have emerged in the West to theology as an academic discipline. Much of the debate concerning theology's place in the university or within a general higher education curriculum centres on whether theology's methods are appropriately theoretical and (broadly speaking) scientific or, on the other hand, whether theology requires a pre-commitment of faith by its practitioners, and whether such a commitment conflicts with academic freedom."

lana_Vello: @secularist, Are you implying man is himself's greatest enemy cos GOD is not behind the evil he does or because he's deluded wid d concept of GOD?!?

Yes O!

Secularist:

Yes O!

Twas a YES or NO question pls..

lana_Vello:
Twas a YES or NO question pls..

I gave you an animated answer mate. Yes, man has always been the problem, he created god in the first place to justify his narrow mindedness!

Logicboy03:

do you agree wit me that you need a concise and deep knowledge of&about THEOLOGY as a whole before you can debunk it or prove the alleged deception in it?!?

Secularist: Hehehehe

Please O! I was very clear in my topic header, i dont want any christian or islamist person bringing anything to the table, this discussion is light years beyond you O.

Mayb a password protection request from d admin for ur solitary thread can achieve dt. U can then share it among ur same.
Seems not bad when u can spy on other ppl's thread and conceal urs.

Admin, pls honour him!