Gombs:

no mind them...i see DB is pained the thread is not going as he wished... I Didnt participate in the thread because then i hated Pastor Chris, but i knew then, not by anyone's teaching, never to curse men of God...and he was so cute on TV eh!

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Gombs:

See my MOG o..swaggalicious, and it's killing some people here o ... I'm sure you would want Him mobbed, this is a man that has followership in millions, but u want him to walk the streets with out beign mobbed..meanwhile that small boy wiz kid is good enough to have security, because he is not a Man of God shey?

see how silliy ur reasoning is?

Dragonking:

Real men like tony blair and even the present prime minister of England who are far more important enter commercial trains and buses with little or no security men following them..but your master chris who claims to be protected by God is moving around with heavily armed men and body guards to protect him from harm.

No wonder another pastor chris uses bodyguard even while on the alter of God.

SO, what your pastor is saying is either God cannot protect them or those bodyguards are better in protecting than God.

You can see how you are a brainwashed slave

Gombs:

with all d terror threat in england and such, u had the balls to come lie here that they move with little or no security.

do u knw how may sweeps were done on the train and bus?

do u knw how many helicopter monitor the train and bus?

do u knw how many secret agents are on the train or bus?

etc

but a smart kid like u stil thinks they wake one morning and take a stroll to the bus/train stations to catc

Dragonking:

Here is a picture of former prime minister david cameron in a public train without any security when he was still in office.

He didnt need men armed to the teeth and helicopters flying over the train..This is a man that doesnt really believe in God.

But your master, chris, whom claims to have the power of God cannot exercise or have confidence in that power, rather he moves around with armed men ready for battle. His adulterous twin brother carries body guard with guns even to the alter. SMH.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049939/David-Cameron-poses-photo-tube-passenger-failed-recognise-him.html

@Gombs, you are a brainwashed slave nothing more.

Gombs:

So if there were secret agents on the train, Cameron would announce that too?

So, he lives his home and walk to a bus right? Your dim wittedness is legendary!

He's car is £300, 000 Jaguar, tell him to drive round London with little or no guard in an audi A4 car....meanwhile I'm done with you till you post something intelligent, you've almost dragged me to your cesspit!

Dragonking:

^^^Guy shut up abeg..you just keep on saying trash and exposing your ignorance just because you are trying so hard to justify the wrongs of your master and saviour, pastor Chris. The picture says it all.. the write up and link is there for everyone to read and see.

Even his name sake carries armed men to the alter of god and there is nothing wrong too? but these same men want us to rely on God for divine protection meanwhile they themselves move around with protection from men not God.

Anyways, you can run away as you did the last time when i exposed your lies and that of Chris..

Bloody hypocritical liars.

Dragonking:
^^^Guy shut up abeg..you just keep on saying trash and exposing your ignorance just because you are trying so hard to justify the wrongs of your master and saviour, pastor Chris. The picture says it all.. the write up and link is there for everyone to read and see.
Even his name sake carries armed men to the alter of god and there is nothing wrong too? but these same men want us to rely on God for divine protection meanwhile they themselves move around with protection from men not God.
Anyways, you can run away as you did the last time when i exposed your lies and that of Chris..
Bloody hypocritical liars.

Gombs:


You didn't explain why thd pope has Military body guards....any reason? Ah! He's the pope. But due to your bianess, u forgot to see he went on a function, like the handing over of lecture halls to oshiomhole, was he supposed to chase the Police away?

If not for total idiocy, which government would assign Mopol, DSS to guard Pastor Chris? See how silly you are?

I am going this far with u solely because it'd pain DB more!

mbaemeka:

He preaches in the open view of millions during the higher life conferences that he has held in many states in Nigeria. The security men didn't stand close to him then. So lets not muddle these things up because of hypocrisy.

The church Authorities know their MOG is a gift to the body of Christ so they protect him at all cost (just like Jesus, his masters disciples did him).

There was a time in the airport (in the past) when some demon-infested lawyer charged towards him and was hurling insults as if he wanted to strike the MOG. The security men became handy in such a situation. Same way President Obama, David Cameron and the Pope all have hired security (even more than this MOG).

STOP the hypocrisy.

Dragonking:
So it is appropriate for men to protect men of God and not the power of God himself?
Elijah, elisah, Paul, Peter and all the disciples of jesus christ went about preaching and healing according to the bible yet they didnt move around with heavy armed security men despite the dangers waiting for them.
They were ready to die for the mission of christ. So why is our own MOG always different?
Are they not willing to die for the mission of christ since the soul is what that matters and they know they will make heaven?
you guys always baffle me with your shallow mindedness, hypocrisy and man worship.

mbaemeka:

You don't want to discuss scriptures with me. Trust me, you don't want to.

Even as they were ready to die for Christ on how many occasions did they flee from people who sought to kill them? On how many occasions did they have to hide to escape death? Where did Peter get the notion to use a knife to try to ward off those who came to arrest Jesus? Why did Jesus at times run when Jews tried to kill him? Didn't he know he came to die for the world?

Dying for the mission of Christ means that even if they ask me for my life I will not deny my relationship with him. And that man has more than done that: indeed he has already died for what he believes. That's why when you insult him you are insulting yourself. He doesn't care about what you think of him (for he is dead). The only thing that matters now is Jesus- the one who called him.

What matters to you? So far other people's private lives, which goes to show how base you are.

tripleace: @OP
You went to so much great length to research and bring out what you have posted. I really would be grateful if you can do the same in a more positive light than what you have posted. Posting negative things about a Ministry or Anyone regardless of his religion is easy. Those who have made changes in the world for good or for bad are in the history pages and we can read them up at will.
How many people are eager to read about the Holocaust and the evil that came with Adolf Hitler reign, well in a world like this, what you have done may be seen as positive and not even comparable to the above but remember history will put your actions to the test on what your true intentions of your post where.
What do you want people to remember you for in future because the future is just around the corner.
Wisdom is profitable.

Jerryolumide: boss stop replying this fools, it won't change their mind

mbaemeka: Bro Joagbaje and co. You guys have time o. I didn't believe people who see themselves as intellectuals will believe such poorly prepared stories ridden with contradictions.


It is funny that the people who kept calling her a liar for saying she was healed immediately believed her when she said she had lost it without asking to see any evidence.

Even Kenya28s stories of how 4 people died didn't even require this 'truth seekers' to ask for any names or contacts. They swallowed the whole thing.
....................,,,near.

hungryboy: Even one of their branches here in calabar had a miracle crusade and paid some area boys to play blind and crippled,
guys were paid 3k for the job,
Christianity is a joke.

Dragonking: They say God will protect you from all the evil of the world just trust in him. Yet they move with heavily armed men, ride bullet proof armored cars, and even preach on the altar with men carrying guns.

So what happend to this divine protection from God?

Are MOG not protected by God?

Why are they afraid to die when jesus simply stated that they will be persecuted and killed for his sake?

Dragonking:
The picture below does not lie.

#MOG protecting themselves since the death of jesus.

Joagbaje:

Which minister of God did that?

Joagbaje: It's still there

Joagbaje: They are. That's why God gave common sense for security.

Joagbaje: A minister may choose to die after his ministry is fulfilled. But before that time. It's common sense from God to protect yourself . Jesus protected himself . Paul protected himself . Its common sense.

Joagbaje: I have a question for you . Do you lock your door at night? If you do ,then just keep quiet .

Dragonking:
Common sense? So what happened to faith and believe that God will protect him from evil? @joagbaje,

jesus had to die for the sake of His church. He said that He could have had “more than twelve legions of angels” (Matthew 26:53) to defend Him, but He chose not to defend Himself out of love for His people but it is a different scenerio for MOG.
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WinsomeX: mbaemeka,
PASTOR CHRIS RE-DEFINES WHO A "MAN OF GOD" IS.
Those who have followed the happenings at the Christ Embassy Church (CEC) in recent times have reasons to be concerned. For one thing, the scandals do not cease. For another, being the church that can boast of the largest number of young folks in this country, we should be concerned with what the future holds for both our country and these young people.

Of all that Chris will have us learn from his below par speech at his church's communion service yesterday, it was his unsuccessful effort to redefine who a man of God should be that miffed me the most. Chris will have us believe that a man of God need not be a preacher. Chris will have us believe that a man of God has a different set of rules from those of us ordinary children of God. Chris will have us believe that men of God do no wrong in the bible except for two occasions. [s]Chris will have us understand that when a man of God does something seemingly wrong from the public's perspective, before God it is OK[/s]. Chris wants us to know that his wife is wrong and she, not him, is the one that needs prayers. In other words, Christian Oyakhilome has redefined a new standard for Christian men of God.

Of all the misconceptions of scripture prevalent in Pentecostal churches, it is this false belief of who a man of God truly is that is most worrisome. Under the guise of being men of God all sorts of atrocities are being committed. If you question them, they point you to Moses, Aaron and Mariam. They tell us that though Moses was wrong in marrying an Ethiopian woman, no one should have pointed this wrong out to him. It was in the bid to do this that Mariam and Aaron incurred God's wrath. So in other words men of God can do anything. You should only do as they say but do not do as they do.

Interestingly no one is called a man of God in the New Testament. When Paul used the term "man of God" in 1 Timothy 6:11 and 2 Timothy 3:17, he was referring to Christians generally and not to their leaders or a few special folks in church. Jesus himself was called "Son of Man" and if the master himself was Son of Man, who should dare be a "man of God" before him. So what is the biblical basis of its use today?

The situation at the Christ Embassy church is becoming desperate and before they hurt themselves, someone needs to halt this. The hundreds of dead folks that lay dead from Rev Jimmy Jones stupidity is still fresh in mind. Unfortunately, Oyakhilome and his church do not belong to the the umbrella body of Pentecostals (PFN) and so are simply a ship left to drift without direction... Who will save us.

Joagbaje:

That only when his time was up. He laid his life down . Paul did thesame . Haven't you read where Jesus protected himself from mob? Paul also did

Joagbaje: SECURITY IS COMMON SENSE

John 10:39
Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

John 8:59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.


It's common sense to protect yourself in the face of threat . When your time is up and your MINUSTRY is done then you can offer yourself like paul and Jesus. But remember paul once hid in a basket for safety

Acts 9:24-25
But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.


But when they finished their ministry they yielded themselves.

2 Timothy 4:6-8
For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing


John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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trustman:
You must certainly have time yourself to be here to make posts. 

SirJohn spoke giving an insider position. 
researchQ gave his personal experience. 
We have other people's experiences not related here yet. 
And what do we find you guys do? Attempt to 'fight' back and fight dirty using all kinds of underhand tactics - including repeated posting of videos hoping they will be talisman to get your blessing for being 'HIS MASTER'S VOICE', and accusing those who didn't get healed of not being able heal themselves when they were 'partners'
What you need to do is sit down and digest all these info. 
Meditate on them - you may mumble or mutter the words if you like. 
BTW, if a person was 'opposed' for claiming healing and then 'supported' for saying it was not so who shifted grounds - the claimant or the others?