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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by LambanoPeace: 8:35am On Oct 21, 2014
PastorKun:


Another thing that these WOF charlatans deliberately omit is that the garment Jesus wore to his crucifixion was not his own but a garment worn for him by Herrod to mock him as king of the jews.

Olodo rabata, read your Bible
John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Read the post of nannymcphee you quoted, you'd notice "my clothing" "my garments" "my clothes"

Are you guys having brain malfunctions this morning?

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 8:38am On Oct 21, 2014
PastorKun:


Another thing that these WOF charlatans deliberately omit is that the garment Jesus wore to his crucifixion was not his own but a garment worn for him by Herrod to mock him as king of the jews.

Luke 23:11

11 Then Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked him. Dressing him in an elegant robe, they sent him back to Pilate.

Kunle o, show me where in the above it stated Herod gave him the clothes? grin angry grin

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 8:39am On Oct 21, 2014
LambanoPeace:


Olodo rabata, read your Bible
John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Read the post of nannymcphee you quoted, you'd notice "my clothing" "my garments" "my clothes"

Are you guys having brain malfunctions this morning?

grin grin
*falls of chair in epileptic laughter

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by trustman: 8:41am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Welcome cheesy
I don't need type a rebuttal...sit back and relax, while I finish this off

As for the coloured, me thinks you missed the latter part of the .... .... Quit the carpentry crap! He left carpentry when his ministry started, show me where he made a table or chair during hid ministry time, ... that embezzlement was easy!
Maybe you should quit being cynical yourself
and don't be overly excited.
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by PastorKun(m): 8:43am On Oct 21, 2014
LambanoPeace:


Olodo rabata, read your Bible
John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Read the post of nannymcphee you quoted, you'd notice "my clothing" "my garments" "my clothes"

Are you guys having brain malfunctions this morning?

Are you a dunce or can't you read the quoted scripture that stated clearly the garment was put on him by Herod and his goons

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 8:43am On Oct 21, 2014
trustman:

Maybe you should quit being cynical yourself
and don't be overly excited.

Excuse me! I've got to be super excited. Wait for mba to come mop you as he frequently does.

Oya, park well. Let me post chapter 6
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 8:44am On Oct 21, 2014
PastorKun:


Are you a dunce or can't you read the quoted scripture that stated clearly the garment was put on him by Herod and his goons

Oh dear Lord! grin grin
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by trustman: 8:45am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Excuse me! I've got to be super excited. Wait for mba to come mop you as he frequently does.

Oya, park well. Let me post chapter 6
Alright 'BOY', I'm waiting.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by PastorKun(m): 8:45am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Kunle o, show me where in the above it stated Herod gave him the clothes? grin angry grin

Are you this daft or you have English comprehension issues or you are just being deliberately dishonest like your god oyakhilome? That scripture makes it crystal clear that he was given the garment by herod.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nannymcphee(f): 8:56am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Fulfilling scriptures shey? The sole purpose? So if he wore rags, they'd have casted lots shey? For memorabilia? Serial killers shebi?

As for the above bold, can you please show me where they said the clothes were torn or shredded? I must have missed that place! I remember John the beloved writing They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whoseit shall be:

Are you also dyslexic or you want to twist scriptures for your ideology?

John19:23-24
23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts to every soldier a part AND also his coat now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Jesus garment was torn into four parts & shared amongst the soldiers, it was the coat that was not torn, that's what they were referring to. They didn't want to tear the coat hence the casting of lots. but the garment was shared. Check the italicized line

Oh thanks for the insults, unfortunately I'm not dyslexic neither I'm I twisting scriptures

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 8:57am On Oct 21, 2014
trustman:

Alright 'BOY', I'm waiting.

Thanks wink

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 8:59am On Oct 21, 2014
Luke 23:11 (ESV)
11 And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate

Matthew 27:28 (ESV)
28 And they stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him,

Mark 15: 17 (ESV)
17 And they clothed him in a purple cloak, and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on him
.

Whether they shared the clothes for memorabilia or to gain sell them off, those garment/robe was not His'. The fact that they did this on a bloodied garment suggests its high value

Gombs:


Kunle o, show me where in the above it stated Herod gave him the clothes? grin angry grin
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 9:01am On Oct 21, 2014
I don't think anybody needs to argue too much with Gombs. Hagin knew the reason he wrote that book. No matter the format my friend adopts in presenting it here, except he'll twist chapter 6&7, he can't obliterate the truth about this question by Hagin

"If You Get What You Want, Will You Want What You Get?"

That is the overall message Hagin sought to pass accross in that book. Its a miracle how my friend didn't devote a single line of commentary to that. Also I still wait to see the correlation between Jesus having 'nice' clothes and pastors living ostentatiously and in obscene opulence. Hagin also spoke on that.

I await the presentation on chapter 6, then we can properly take a trip into the inner sanctums of our 'churches'

My friend isn't seeking the balance Hagin sought. He's simply looking for a way to justify mog's excesses.

Ride on Gombs......na you we know grin

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:04am On Oct 21, 2014
nannymcphee:


John19:23-24
23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts to every soldier a part [b]AND also his coat[/b]now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Jesus garment was torn into four parts & shared amongst the soldiers, it was the coat that was not torn, that's what they were referring to. They didn't want to tear the coat hence the casting of lots. but the garment was shared. Check the italicized line

Oh thanks for the insults, unfortunately I'm not dyslexic neither I'm I twisting scriptures

Na wa o, so let me agree, so which one was given by herod as Kunle said? Are you of same school of thought?

So, we should safely assume then that you are of the opinion Jesus wore rags, hence they were taken by the soldiers for memorabilia, just so that scriptures would be fulfilled shey?

Nb:I didn't insult you. I asked whether you had reading disorder.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:08am On Oct 21, 2014
Candour:
I don't think anybody needs to argue too much with Gombs. Hagin knew the reason he wrote that book. No matter the format my friend adopts in presenting it here, except he'll twist chapter 6&7, he can't obliterate the truth about this question by Hagin

"If You Get What You Want, Will You Want What You Get?"

That is the overall message Hagin sought to pass accross in that book. Its a miracle how my friend didn't devote a single line of commentary to that. Also I still wait to see the correlation between Jesus having 'nice' clothes and pastors living ostentatiously and in obscene opulence. Hagin also spoke on that.

I await the presentation on chapter 6, then we can properly take a trip into the inner sanctums of our 'churches'

My friend isn't seeking the balance Hagin sought. He's simply looking for a way to justify mog's excesses.

Ride on Gombs......na you we know grin



Haba my friend... I seek the balance Hagin sought, didn't you read the opening post of this thread? Chapter 6 is next up. Wait for it bro
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 9:08am On Oct 21, 2014
Did anybody suggest that Jesus wore rags? Or is that a strawman argument?
Gombs:

So, we should safely assume then that you are of the opinion Jesus wore rags,

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 9:11am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Haba my friend... I seek the balance Hagin sought, didn't you read the opening post of this thread? Chapter 6 is next up. Wait for it bro

No wahala. I'm waiting
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:12am On Oct 21, 2014
vooks:
Luke 23:11 (ESV)
11 And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate

Matthew 27:28 (ESV)
28 And they stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him,

Mark 15: 17 (ESV)
17 And they clothed him in a purple cloak, and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on him
.

Whether they shared the clothes for memorabilia or to gain sell them off, those garment/robe was not His'. The fact that they did this on a bloodied garment suggests its high value


Heheheheheh, so the prophecy in Psalms 22 where it said my clothes , from your above, we can safely conclude Herod dashed Jesus clothes, hence they became 'His'? undecided

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:16am On Oct 21, 2014
vooks:

Did anybody suggest that Jesus wore rags? Or is that a strawman argument?


Na wa o, Jesus wore nice clothes, una say no, he wore rags una say no... # Wonderful cheesy grin grin

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 9:20am On Oct 21, 2014
Spare me that pidgin nonsense, am not Nigerian
I said there is no scriptural evidence he wore rags OR expensive clothes.
Some of what the soldiers gambled came from Herod and stealing a dead man's clothes don't mean they were necessarily expensive, just deemed to be of value.Start thinking sir!
Gombs:


Na wa o, Jesus wore nice clothes, una say no, he wore rags una say no... # Wonderful cheesy grin grin
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nannymcphee(f): 9:22am On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


Na wa o, so let me agree, so which one was given by herod as Kunle said? Are you of same school of thought?

So, we should safely assume then that you are of the opinion Jesus wore rags, hence they were taken by the soldiers for memorabilia, just so that scriptures would be fulfilled shey?

Nb:I didn't insult you. I asked whether you had reading disorder.


PastorKun:

Luke 23:11

11 Then Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked him. Dressing him in an elegant robe, they sent him back to Pilate.

Pls in this context who are those that dressed him?

Dressing him:who did the dressing?


vooks:
Luke 23:11 (ESV)
11 And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate

Matthew 27:28 (ESV)
28 And they stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him,

Mark 15: 17 (ESV)
17 And they clothed him in a purple cloak, and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on him

With the above, u mean u still cant see?

Well I understand what's going on, because pastor did not say, you're confused despite the fact that all I have written & others have quoted is written black & white in the scriptures

Only God knows what would have happened if, we didn't quote the verses.

the verses & explanation are so clear, see why I pray for light & scales to fall off from ur eyes

If pastor had taught this, you'll be screaming rhema & talking about it

If u can't get this, this matter is simple comprehension, how then can u get other things


Whether it was rags or not, they would still gone ahead to share it, in fulfillment of the scripture

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by LambanoPeace: 9:22am On Oct 21, 2014
PastorKun:


Are you this daft or you have English comprehension issues or you are just being deliberately dishonest like your god oyakhilome? That scripture makes it crystal clear that he was given the garment by herod.

Show us where the scriptures said, "and Herod gave them clothes to wear him" Herod gave them clothes to wear Him and watch his boys force down a crown of thorns on His head.

Gombs asked, like I did, which you seemingly didn't see. In Psalms 22, can we now say Herod dashed Jesus clothes and by that action, the clothes became Jesus'?

Your ineptitude is of gigantic proportions sha o

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 9:25am On Oct 21, 2014
They were his no doubt but they were forcibly put on him hours to his death. Even a marine invertebrate can see that these garments are NO indication of Jesus' wealth status. If a firing squad puts an Armani suit on you before dispatching you, does that make you rich seeing you had expensive suit at the point of your checking out?
Gombs:


Heheheheheh, so the prophecy in Psalms 22 where it said my clothes , from your above, we can safely conclude Herod dashed Jesus clothes, hence they became 'His'? undecided

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:29am On Oct 21, 2014
Alright fellas, chapter 6 is in the pipeline.

I'm thrilled
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:30am On Oct 21, 2014
vooks:

They were his no doubt but they were forcibly put on him hours to his death. Even a marine invertebrate can see that these garments are NO indication of Jesus' wealth status. If a firing squad puts an Armani suit on you before dispatching you, does that make you rich seeing you had expensive suit at the point of your checking out?

undecided
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 10:31am On Oct 21, 2014
And so it begins - the e fights

Gombs u need to act as a moderator and let us come to our own conclusions
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by trustman: 11:47am On Oct 21, 2014
pickabeau1:
And so it begins - the e fights

Gombs u need to act as a moderator and let us come to our own conclusions


Will he allow anyone to come to his own conclusion?
I think not. 
Remember, in his own words, He's thrilled, super excited, in epileptic laughter. 
He wants us to be brainwashed by the line of propaganda he intends to spew out.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 2:09pm On Oct 21, 2014
pickabeau1:
And so it begins - the e fights

Gombs u need to act as a moderator and let us come to our own conclusions


ummm...really? even if they tend to twist what the good old papa taught and wrote? undecided

ok then, let's see how it plays out. By the way, chapter 6 is up... took me close to almost 5hrs to put it up here, i'd do that over and over if i must. A good read i tell ya!
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 2:12pm On Oct 21, 2014
trustman:


Will he allow anyone to come to his own conclusion?
I think not. 
Remember, in his own words, He's thrilled, super excited, in epileptic laughter. 
He wants us to be brainwashed by the line of propaganda he intends to spew out. 


Sir, grin grin grin
you want me to be mournful or in regrets ni? what line of propaganda? if you don't like the book, leave the thread. the thread is about the book, i like the book, i am happy and thrilled, does my happiness and thrill gives you seizures?
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 2:32pm On Oct 21, 2014
ummm.. Kenny4lyfe has decided to donate his space... trustman and kunle can you guys do me that favor too? lipsrsealed

lambanoPeace, how far? your space nko? cheesy
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 3:00pm On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs,
take your sweet time with chapter 6 wink

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2014
Gombs:


ummm...really? even if they tend to twist what the good old papa taught and wrote? undecided

ok then, let's see how it plays out. By the way, chapter 6 is up... took me close to almost 5hrs to put it up here, i'd do that over and over if i must. A good read i tell ya!

ok.. i will read and make my comments later

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