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Emu4life:
This op must be a "Son of God" worshipper
Their obsession with ISLAM is always on another level

FarinJini:
Girl I'm utterly disappointed in you, to say the least. I was really expecting a reply with an evidence based approach with a cogent argument and references but no! You chose to gibber. You've just wasted my time. You missed the mark girl. You are obviously very far below my expectations.

Newboss:
She looks like a normal girl to me. At least she refused hotel and your house. If you ask a girl to go out with you to drink and eat in a public place, and she refused, won't you say she's forming?

AntiChristian:
Yes, if the person is tried and found worthy of being executed!

AntiChristian:
It's needless trying to counteract the OP.

Nothing will change "a westernized opinion" except you be like them!

Blasphemy and Apostasy law are okay to me. If a country/state claims it is of Islam then it should be of Islam and not anti-what it claims.
That doesn't mean other religion can't exist therein.

How much do you know about China, it's government and its rule of law?

It's only Islam you'll see when you Christian apologists have no state!

AntiChristian:
Thanks!

And your bigotry knows no bounds!

FarinJini:
I'll make it easier for you.
1. You're saying Muslims are blasphemous and I gave you proof why Muslims can never be blasphemous: Quran 6:108.

2. You said it is a blasphemy to a Christian for saying Jesus is not God and I also gave you proof from the Bible and Quran that says otherwise:
Mark 12:29
Romans 1:21-23
Romans 1:25
Quran 4:171

3. You said there's a concept for blasphemy in Hinduism but you failed to provide a proof from any scripture that says so.

4. On the punishment for blasphemy, I gave you proof of the Christian punishment (Death penalty): Leviticus 24:16. But you're already so engrossed in your hatred for Islam that you can't even understand that not only Islam permits death penalty for blasphemy. If you hate Islam for killing people for blasphemy you should hate Christianity too for Leviticus 24:16.

5. I again asked you what the Christians hold sacred that the Muslims disrespect but you again failed to mention anything but that didn't stop me from giving you an evidence why Muslims can't disrespect Jesus or Mary: Chapter 19 of the Quran, Surah Maryam. Just so you know, Jesus is one of the most mentioned people in the Quran by reference; 25 times by the name Isa, third-person 48 times, first-person 35 times and the rest as titles.

6. You said what the Bible considers as blasphemy is different from what Islam considers as blasphemy but you fail to tell me what it is that is considered as blasphemy according to the Bible.

7. You said and I quote "Do they (Christians) follow the Bible blindly or has Christianity been REFORMED?" and I pointed out to you that to "follow blindly" means to do something without thinking for yourself if what you're doing is right or wrong. Then I asked you if you're insinuating that the Bible contains something that is unethical and morally wrong but again, you couldn't answer.

8. You said Islam is not in conformity with science because science does not say horses can fly but you fail to refute the fact that world renowned scientists agree that almost everything, from relativity, quantum mechanics, Big Bang theory, black holes and pulsars, genetics, embryology, modern geology, thermodynamics, even the laser and hydrogen fuel cells, have been found in the Quran.
I also pointed out that if you say Islam is not in conformity with science just because horses don't fly then is Christianity in conformity with science for saying the same Jesus who "died" on the cross will be coming back to the world again?

You said I am grasping at straws but common sense says the reverse is the case.

It is your word against the scriptures and simple logic here.

Breakfast is served girl. You can give it up now. But in case you still don't comprehend and you're not convinced after all these facts presented to you, then I understand why and I don't blame you because the Quran says:
"Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.
Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path]".
Quran 2:17-18.
Cheers.

AntiChristian:
All the killings in the USA caused by racism are also done by Muslims?

I have told you to go meet your parents but you keep showing us how upside brained you are.

Reason well!

Humans do evil. Not tribe or religion!

AntiChristian:
Yes, he's living. Since his son can die, that means he can die too.

Allah is not equal to Yahweh but your Christian Arabic Bible translators used Allah!

You have one God of three persons the father sending the son to sacrifice!

This is closest to idolatry as can be!

HISSCRIBE1995:
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No!
In the body of christ we don't kill, we died in christ, came alive in God so that our death could work life in them that are held captive by head.
As it is written 2 Corinthians 4:11-12
[11]For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
[12]So then death is working in us, but life in you.
We are imitators of our Lord who died that men might have life including you #1Sharon#vh.
It's because we love them that hates us that why you are still alive to post this, if your family were Muslims, and then find out that you have become an atheist, what do you think would happen to you?
You know the result would be death, but because as your name "Sharon" implies that you were formerly a christian or from a christian home, that is why you were still alive till today.
So you should know that you are living because of the grace found in christ jesus even though you don't believe in him.

His arms are still open, waiting for you to embrace him, knocking at the door of your, and saying" if you will let me in again my daughter, I will mend your broken heart, heal your life of the pains, and restore back the years that the cankerworms had eaten, and also make you see the one whom I destined for you. "

Open your heart to him my dear please! Please! [/s]

HISSCRIBE1995:
Thank you for reminding me mam that "Einstein was a jew, and that SOME Jews hate Christians.
But you know we love them, and have a lord that cares for them till today, even though they were the ones who crucified him.

Thank you for letting me know that you knew and recognized this historical act of love.

Christianity is love

Limassol:
You are a fool, not all muslims are terrorist,matter of fact they are not even up to 1% of total muslim global population. Besides, this are ordinary Afghans who despise the Taliban more than you do, infact, there was an outpouring display of public anger in form of protests today in two major cities, that tells you nobody is happy with their military overtake of Afghanistan.

FarinJini:
if you don't mind me asking, are you a Christian? Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross and is still going to come back? Does science agree with that?
Science doesn't have to agree with everything. But fine, if science doesn't agree with the prophet going to heaven, science does agrees with every other thing I mentioned above and more and they're all in the Quran.
Blasphemy is a right? C'mon!
Knowledge is indeed at our fingertips and you couldn't access the "knowledge at your fingertip" and give me scriptural proof of your assertions.
Why would an Indian lie to me about his religion? You're really asking this question? I see you have no point at all.
You've failed to answer my questions. You tagged them "foolish questions" only because you have no answer.
Do have a lovely night.

FarinJini:
You're not aware of any scriptures but I should ask an Indian? I don't know any Indian and even if I do, am I to take your word or that of a random Indian as the gospel truth? I know better.
You do need scriptures to learn religions. At least that's what Islam taught me. You don't just do things because you think they're right or cool or because many people are doing it. You do things because the scripture teaches and permits you to do them. Now that's the difference between Islam and other religions.
What the Bible considers blasphemy is not the same thing as what Islam considers? Really? Please enlighten me. You may have a different definition of blasphemy which I don't know about. And what does the Bible considers as blasphemy?
Is there anything as "follow the Bible blindly"? I'm sure you do know that to follow blindly means you do something without thinking for yourself whether what you are doing is right or wrong. Are you insinuating that something can be in the Bible and also the morally wrong or unethical at the same time?
Blasphemy is not freedom of speech anywhere in the world. You can't hurt people because you are exercising your freedom.
No. Science does not say horses can fly but scientists agree that almost everything, from relativity, quantum mechanics, Big Bang theory, black holes and pulsars, genetics, embryology, modern geology, thermodynamics, even the laser and hydrogen fuel cells, have been 'found' in the Quran, which was revealed over a thousand years ago.

FarinJini:
I hear you but you've not given me any proof from any scripture. There's
The Bible for Christianity, The Quran And The Hadiths for Islam, The Vedas And The Upanishads for Hinduism, The Tipitaka for Buddhism or The Tanakh And The Talmud for Judaism. Any of these scriptures at all.
You said there's a concept for blasphemy in Hinduism but you have failed to provide a proof for your assertion. I told you about the law of blasphemy according to the Bible and you said nothing about it. Your only concern is that Muslims kill people for blasphemy but you fail to understand that killing people for blasphemy is not a sin according to the Bible.
Islam is backward only according to your definition which is adhering to the scripture.
Islam is not compatible with a modern society? Islam is not only compatible with the modern society, it was also compatible with the ancient society and even with the future. Islam is also compatible with science.

FarinJini:
You are right, we are both right in this case. Blasphemy also involves disrespecting what is held sacred and no. Muhammad (SAW) is not God.
Hindus have a concept of blasphemy? I am not wrong sister but you are. If they do then what is it? Give me proof.
What is it that Christianity holds sacred that the Muslims disrespect?
Is it Jesus? The Muslims not only believe in Jesus but also love, respect and honor him by following his teachings. Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is not considered a Muslim.
Or is the Mary the mother of Jesus? There is a chapter in the Quran dedicated to her (Quran 19). Muslims also love and respect her.
We name our children after them.

Yes Christians do have law in place to kill people for blasphemy. See Leviticus 24:16 "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death".
Except if you don't consider the words of the Bible as laws of course.

If following the scripture is your definition of backward then yes, Islam is backward.

Muslims display phobia to the minorities among them? This is a misconception. Have you ever been to the northern part of Nigeria where Muslims are the minority? (I take it you're Nigerian) if you haven't, ask those who youth corp members who served or are serving in the north or the Igbos and Yoruba non-Muslims who resides and own businesses in the north. The Muslims are generally peaceful and loving people.


And I'm glad we're having this conversation.

earthsync:
Sounds like you know nothing about yoga

AntiChristian:
Not proven!

Millions of Muslims in SW should have Sharia courts.

There should be killings too!

Killings should not be only in the North!

FarinJini:
Give it up? Not while I have all the facts. You should give it up. Only when you're fully convinced though.
When a Muslim says Jesus (peace be upon him) is not God, that is not blasphemy because there are many verses of the Bible and the Quran that says so. For example, (all KJV):

Mark 12:29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord"

Romans 1:21-23
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

there are other verses of the Bible but I'll stop here. The Quran also says :
Quran 4:171
People of the Book! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to Allah nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him (which led to Mary's conception). So believe in Allah and in His Messengers, and do not say: (Allah is a) trinity. Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. Allah is indeed just one God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. Allah is sufficient for a guardian.

Jesus is not God. There is nothing blasphemous about the statement.
And on Hinduism, eating cow (beef) and saying cow is not God is also not a blasphemy. Hinduism and its offshoots Buddhism and Jainism, have no concept of blasphemy and hence no punishment. The idea of blasphemy is entirely and unsurprisingly absent. Unlike other religions, they do not prescribe what is right thought, speech or action. Buddhists for example do not believe in a god that will punish those who commit sins. Instead, the Buddhist belief in karma, or the notion that every action has a consequence, holds that punishment comes as a natural result of hurtful acts.
There are many verses of the Quran to prove that cow or any other animal, man, stone, the sun, moon, stars or any creature whatsoever are not God but I won't go into that now.

On the punishment for blasphemy, what do you think the Bible says about it? Check out Leviticus 24:16 (KJV). "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death".
These are not my words, you can look them up for yourself.
Hypocrisy? Lol do your research sister.

immortal2:
Muslims generally are very confused people. 99.8% of them dont know anything about their religion. Since they dont read their holy books, they rely on what uneducated Imams tell them.

Their religion is actually a mixture of Christianity and Judaism and Paganism. Virtually all the prophets mentioned in Quran are those of the bible. The Solomon of the bible can talk to ants in the Quran. Even has a flying carpet like that of Alladin. Jesus of the bible could speak when was in his cradle in the Quran.

Ilamina:


Why

I am scared, I might need help from that person one day

dairykidd:
It's not about being exposed or not. I know lots of gym and yoga instructors who's other profession is fvcking most of their rich female clients (gigolo) It's nothing new

immortal2:
Islamophobia is not irrational. Its like a mad man with Petrol and matches, you have to be careful.

You saw how Islamophobia made people to hang on plane to escape the purest form of Islam that is practiced by the Taliban.

Muslims like Mdridguy, Vedaxcool and Mukina will not even want to live under Taliban. I am sure they wont even want to live under Boko Haram, yet these guys are acting word for word what is written in Quran, Sunnah and Hadith.

Gerrard59:
Funny enough, the liberal establishment in the west loves Islam and cater to Muslims' needs. Whereas Islam and its laws (Sharia) is very opposed to liberal ideals and laws.

What a paradox!

CharisEleos:
I know but I think this is too extreme. Not even a healthy practice (@ this type here) as she can get her hips bone dislocated.