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midnighter:
Ive already explained what I meant by "crafty".

Ive already explained why what you said is racist.

Ive already stated that I dont need you to confirm whether we look better with weaves or not.

We have all noticed people with natural hair who dont look good, but we wouldnt use them to suggest that nobody with natural hair looks good.

Bleaching knots, gluing lace are not what we're talking about here. We're talking about you and your *inverse featurism* which is actually a tool of oppression in itself. You are oppressing yourself in oppressing others.

You were talking about "rounder flatter nose" and Im telling you that Chinese people have that too, with straight hair. You now want to deflect towards "full-featured" which is not going to work. Answer the question: Do all Chinese people look ugly?

Dont worry; please go ahead and try telling somebody in the UK that their big black lips dont suit their English name. I for one will be looking forward to reading your story on front page.



I just typed 3 lines of insults to you before realising that I am lacking an important piece of information that will clear everything. Here is my question:

Have you ever travelled to Nigeria before?

fieryy:
Imagine! If you want to lie at least let it make sense. 'The average white girl wears extension even from a very young age'

Excuse me, whaaaat?

CeterisXVII:
I guess Chris Rock went into each of the 774 local government areas in Nigeria to interview those women, and check how much each of them spent on their hairdo annually. Hehehe....



No ma'am. The part in bold type refers. Length of African hair depends on genetics.

eyinjuege:
You are the clueless one here. Caucasians are the queens of hair extensions. From a very young age for that matter, while their African counterparts are still thinking of low cut.
Melanasians migrated from Africa, in case you're not aware. Fact. They are also blessed with the typical features of Africans.

fieryy:
Europeans migrated out of Africa as well. Everybody migrated out of Africa, lmaooo! However, we've been apart for a very long time now, which resulted into us being genetically diverse, so what exactly is your point?!

And aunty, which European country did you live in to come up with the conclusion of the average white woman wearing extension. You even took it a step further and said 'from a very young age'

CeterisXVII:
The picture you attached, to your post is one of a mixed race child. Her hair texture would definitely be far different, from that of a pure African child without mixed race genes!

midnighter:
Yes, it's your opinion that none of us look good with weaves and you're free to express it but you shouldn't be crafty or extreme in order to prove a point because it actually makes your argument weaker.

If I had said "what of those "natural beauties" with patch patchy wisps of hair over their bald heads" wouldn't it sound awful even though we know that that's how some of them look? You are being very unreasonable joor

It's not racist to state that some of us have particular features. It's racist to use that fact to argue that we look grotesque in weaves and wigs, when having a flat nose doesn't necessarily mean that straight hair looks bad on you. Chinese people nko?

The fact is that having large lips doesn't automatically disqualify you from looking decent with straight hair, just like having kinky hair doesn't automatically disqualify you from from looking decent with thin lips! You're so eager to squash everybody into your own tiny box for some reason when there are so many different looks that work well.

Being from Nigeria doesn't automatically mean that using a foreign first name is beyond you. You may disagree with it for your own reasons but it doesn't necessarily make the other person ignorant or stupid.

Will you say "big black face with big lips doesn't suit English name" Because that's racist! I'm sure in the UK you're talking from you can be arrested for saying that.



It depends. Are you going to say that " rounder nose and full lips don't look good with long, straight hair"? Because that's racist too.

It has nothing to do with being mixed or not. I asked you a question- do black people with straight noses and thin lips always automatically look good in any wig they wear?

I'm quoting you because you're saying the wrong thing thinking that you're sounding more enlightened when actually your argument lacks intelligence and nuance.

There are full black people all over Nigeria with thin noses and lips are you're here talking about "mixed" like one bush woman! I just can't understand it.

How can you claim to have left your "oppression" but still be so narrow-minded?

You're the most oppressed person here, if you don't know.

eyinjuege:
Your average white woman does wear clip on extensions. Infact, they start wearing them from secondary school.
You do reek of inferiority complex, despite all your attempts in trying to appear woke.
Whites have blonde hair, but we do have some Africans with naturally blond hair too. That's why I mentioned earlier about the black race being so diverse genetically and pheonytpically. I have attached some pictures of some children with typical black features and their blond hair. A simple google search. Meanwhile, there are also some blacks with blue eyes. Fact.

What do you understand by alopecia? You've just being shouting it upandan. I do hope you know it's a legitimate medical condition.
I know traction alopecia can be caused by pulling your hair from some of these styles that play with the edges, but some are caused by even packing your natural hair all back.

This babe, you have too much mouth for someone doing care work in the UK o.
You say blacks in diaspora take care of themselves better?
Awon ti London J.UK...
Wehdone sir

midnighter:
It's not about arguing that we look better in our natural hair. You are free to think that. And it's true to an extent.

It's about you implying that we don't look good at all in weaves or other styles, when that's simply not true. And you're being deliberately insincere by using extreme language to prove your point.

You keep using words like big lips and big noses which is racist. Not all of us have big noses and lips. You're just trying to be controversial in an effort to sound enlightened.

What about people with narrow noses and thin lips, do they have your permission to wear their weaves now?

If you had said that people should try to be realistic about their facial and bone structure when choosing styles, I would have understood but you're just being vulgar and offensive to prove a point.

I don't need to you to confirm for me whether black women look better in weaves or not. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be so quick to judge people just because they don't conform to your view.

The systems of oppression that led to this discussion in the first place are well-established and complex. You are wrong to lord it over people just because you have had a different experience.

If you want to put your point across then do it without being arrogant. You are actually scaring people away from the natural hair movement with your attitude.

midnighter:
I have talked about that already.

I understand that we have a problem with inferiority complex and making our hair look more "white" but that doesn't mean that everybody who does that is totally ignorant about what makes them look good or that people who don't automatically conform to your view of what looks "good" must be stupid.

Biglittlelois:
Shut your stupid ass up with your low esteem, bringing down your kind because you are over there, your reek of a low mentality bum, look at you, comparing hair care according to nationality, as if all blacks takes care of themselves thoroughly as much as most here, nonsense.

midnighter:
I mentioned "blond" and you said white people use their same colour of hair. That is why I asked you that question.

I have talked about texture already.

You make it sound like we are all out there wearing 40-inch pink wigs and looking ridiculous.

midnighter:
I asked, what about black people who wear their same colour of hair?

midnighter:
So you should say it like that instead of implying that all people who use extensions must hate themselves.

You're just being facetious, so what of black people who wear black or brown hair?

If you want to make a point you should be reasonable. Don't use extreme examples to paint all black women bad.

midnighter:
You're actually the one ridiculing African women, who told you our lips don't match our hair

So does Angelina Jolie need to force her hair into an Afro?

If you think we still look good natural it's fair enough but that doesn't mean we don't look good in other styles.

You're going so far in one direction that you're beginning to sound like the racists you hate so much.

Biglittlelois:
And who are you to generalise? How many have you met in your life? Only -0 esteem's like you gloat about knowing it all, while you can't even be at par with some Nigerians in your entire lifetime.

midnighter:
It's not self-hate at all. What about white womem who go and get blond extensions sewn into their scalp to make it appear thicker

What about those who use kinky or yakki extensions that mimic their natural hair texture?

If you keep arguing like that you will eventually reach the conclusion that basically all body modifications mean that you "hate yourself".

Adding attachments helps to keep the hair neat for longer which is less stress on the child since they won't need to keep making it every week.

sassysure:
U will not win this case o.
It's ingrained in our mentality.

My husband has long natural hair and I weave it for him.

The other day, I was hailing the current miss world ABI miss universe from South Africa. She locks short natural hair.
We so much hate our hair, we fix Brazilian. Imagine a black babe with flat nose fixing Brazilian.
We are never satisfied with what we have. Our hair is very beautiful and unique.

I have seen it all. We can do one and million things with that.

This is our TY Bello.
Can u believe this is all natural?
Isn't this beautiful?

eyinjuege:
The purpose of this thread is about not plaiting/braiding children's hair because it's too painful
Not about self hate or wearing weaves and some obviously ridiculous hair pieces . That would be another long topic on it's own. I think the thread has being derailed
Many mothers plait their children's hair, not out of self hate. Our foremothers have been plaiting hair since time immemorial. That has always been our culture, and never about self hate. That is what makes us who we are. If we're not threading our hair, we're plaiting it or even using extensions and ornaments.. They used shea butter in those days, and still managed to have long hair, while some cannot just grow their hair.
I think Chad people use chebe powder which worked well for them too as many have very long hair. However, that's where your genetics also come into play again. Fulani people have always had fine long hair (fine in the sense that it's smooth and straight) probably types 2 hair type. It's still their genetics and they are Africans too.

Biglittlelois:
So Chris Rock's hair documentary is the basis to use to generalise Nigerians right? A documentary showing how many Nigerian women, out of the remaining millions? Lol

As much as this is a thread on kids, you cannot force your idea of shaving every females kids hair on every mother, and the pain y'all are venting about isn't all through their lifetime, just a day or two, max, and it not only a Nigerian thing.

sassysure:
I was on natural hair for most of my life before I started locking it.
And my hair so stubborn and thick. I met a natural hair expert who guided me on how to handle my wild hair.

U see, we don't have beauty professionals who are experts on natural hair.
Also I noticed that the natural hair products in Nigerian markets are foreign. We assume it's not manageable but if we use the money we spend on artificial and hours of braiding to do the right thing for our natural.hair, we will find out that our hair is indeed beautiful.

eyinjuege:
People grow hair. But don't forget the genetic part of hair growth. No matter how much you look after your hair, your genes also play a major role. The most major role tbh.
In hair loss/shedding, in hair growth don't ever forget the genetic component.
All the American youtube channels always conveniently
forget to mention this in their pro-black wokeness. Just saying...

ireneidiva:
Use my common sense? The picture looks like an African baby's hair fluffed out with fingers? Okay

Biglittlelois:
That picture you showed was pulled, can't you see the front of her hair is almost gone, due to pulling, whether tightly or not?

Biglittlelois:
Are you saying those hair wasn't pulled to achieve two buns

Biglittlelois:
One thing people should understand is that, the fact that one doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't mean they are stupid, it's like me saying you assuming all kids hair is a certain way, able to achieve same result, is stupidity in itself, but I wouldn't,

My hair is exactly like the pictures of this comment I quoted, I didn't have to put different chemicals or oils and whatnot to achieve that, I believe in making the hair grow on its own, using enhancing whatever spoils the hair and texture, I come from a line of long full hair people, not everyone will achieve the long soft hair no matter how much they spend on it, whether natural or not, if you don't have a long hair, you don't, stop making your illogical opinion seem 100% right, it isn't, we are talking of kids here, not adults.

Biglittlelois:
How will one tie a child's hair without combing? How long will one continue to tie a child's hair without combing? How will the hair grow and prevent tangling?

I'm pretty sure you are not a kid, if that is your go to style

How will one braid a kids hair, any hair, without pulling?

sassysure:
Nigerian women will never stop that.
Over their dead body

jakandeola:
d girls are beautiful but I think u are wrong. dose girls are not Africans I think dey are Americans. oyibo weather make thier hair to be very soft weda black or white cos of thier cold.most naija and African girl got short hairs

Ryan03:
lemme ask you, did the mother of this child just comb and park this child's hair till it got to this length? And that hair base looks treated

ireneidiva:
One size fits all? What if the hair is short? pressed at the side she slept on? Just tie it everyday? okay