Shollyps:
lol...am okay o...make I no high to Church.. na me be the preacher today

frank317:


Thanks... I think this is the first description of a spirit. Finally.
So form your statement I can say that spirits wear cloths too or are the cloths spiritual? Spirits can cry, that means spirits have tear gland and they speak English too.
In fact from this, I can come to a conclusion that spirits are humans to just that they can't be seen with ordinary eyes.
Further, what in the world is inner eyes. Where is my own inner eyes. In which part of the body is this inner eyes located?

hahn:


Yes. You are bright. Johnnydon22 and plaetton will be our first "miracles". Menesheh, frank317 and ifeness can help us with officiating.

The tithe and offering is the koko oooo and we just need to come up with some good products like holy urine, blessed poo poo, gutter water for sanctification etc

ichommy:
Tot u re atheist

johnydon22:


You see in a desperate attempt to lay claims to some unfounded beliefs people tend to assume up more absurdities to feed such delusion.

A woman died and someone has a spirit that also has eyes, nose, brain, mouth, stomach, spinal cord, buttocks, pusssssy, legs and even internal organs and blood..

And someone is proud of bringing this out in public?... Shhhessssh...!!!

Wears clothes but doesn't have a phone and there was no spirit car but there were spirit clothes..

This is absurd...

Shollyps:
lol....you will av to introduce first "SEED"first FRUIT bla bla bla...don't also forget the sowing of seeds...gifts for the pastors...we gonna sell materials for prayer aswell....chaii! we don hammer o!

hahn:


Let me tell you one absurd story.

My wife's father's pastor lost his wife in a ghastly accident. He told me they were together when she decided to buy something to cook dinner while he was preparing for service. He waited for about 3 hours and she didn't show up. He called her number but it was unavailable. Then he decided to go and look for her. When he got outside of the house, someone told him there had been a serious accident just in front of the house and told him the hospital to check. He then decided to go to the hospital to see for himself. The first body he was shown was that of his wife. Honestly, it was devastating. They've been married for years and have 5 kids together.

Now, while I was at the house(he came to my in-laws house), I over heard him telling some ladies that his wife appeared to him in a dream and told him that she is now in heaven. He also said that his wife told him that she was found pure and holy but wouldn't have made heaven because of the weave-on on her head but god forgave her and told him to warn women not to put on weave-on.

Frank317, ifeness, plaetton, menesheh, shollyps I need your input on this. Despite the fact that I find this truly disturbing, I feel he just needed a way to cope with the situation. However, I still feel funny about the whole thing.

hahn:


Let me tell you one absurd story.

My wife's father's pastor lost his wife in a ghastly accident. He told me they were together when she decided to buy something to cook dinner while he was preparing for service. He waited for about 3 hours and she didn't show up. He called her number but it was unavailable. Then he decided to go and look for her. When he got outside of the house, someone told him there had been a serious accident just in front of the house and told him the hospital to check. He then decided to go to the hospital to see for himself. The first body he was shown was that of his wife. Honestly, it was devastating. They've been married for years and have 5 kids together.

Now, while I was at the house(he came to my in-laws house), I over heard him telling some ladies that his wife appeared to him in a dream and told him that she is now in heaven. He also said that his wife told him that she was found pure and holy but wouldn't have made heaven because of the weave-on on her head but god forgave her and told him to warn women not to put on weave-on.

Frank317, ifeness, plaetton, menesheh, shollyps I need your input on this. Despite the fact that I find this truly disturbing, I feel he just needed a way to cope with the situation. However, I still feel funny about the whole thing.

frank317:


That's what it was... A dream. Nothing can be said about it. I also had a dream where I was flying.

johnydon22:
[b]

Lmao... Near death experiences is your best shot at it? . . Pretty cheap..

We have so many of such accounts with different versions of the tale coming from different individuals with different beliefs.

-Near death experiences is mostly on patients with heart attack..

-Clinical death is not actual death, every organ in the body can stop working and resume afterwards.

-The brain being the box of human perception, memory and neurosensitive abilities is the box of human illusionary projection doesn't die with any part of the body, the brain remains the last part of the body to die.


Yeah we have heard near death patients and we have different versions of what they saw mostly being in coincide with their different beliefs.

One even saw that God was female, other saw Muslim God and heaven while some saw Jesus and it goes to different versions of religious afterlife ideas in relation to each individual's psychology..

Many have also claimed to have reincanated

Try again.. [/b]

UyiIredia:


So what? Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh. I think you should take a closer look at NDE accounts to see their similarities. BTW don't rule out experiences of re afterlife through dreams and visions. Jesus showed heaven to my father in a dream, he didn't die, though he's late now. Also the brain is one of the first organs to die not the last, Google it to confirm.

hahn:


Let me tell you one absurd story.

My wife's father's pastor lost his wife in a ghastly accident. He told me they were together when she decided to buy something to cook dinner while he was preparing for service. He waited for about 3 hours and she didn't show up. He called her number but it was unavailable. Then he decided to go and look for her. When he got outside of the house, someone told him there had been a serious accident just in front of the house and told him the hospital to check. He then decided to go to the hospital to see for himself. The first body he was shown was that of his wife. Honestly, it was devastating. They've been married for years and have 5 kids together.

Now, while I was at the house(he came to my in-laws house), I over heard him telling some ladies that his wife appeared to him in a dream and told him that she is now in heaven. He also said that his wife told him that she was found pure and holy but wouldn't have made heaven because of the weave-on on her head but god forgave her and told him to warn women not to put on weave-on.

Frank317, ifeness, plaetton, menesheh, shollyps I need your input on this. Despite the fact that I find this truly disturbing, I feel he just needed a way to cope with the situation. However, I still feel funny about the whole thing.

UyiIredia:


So what? Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh. I think you should take a closer look at NDE accounts to see their similarities.

BTW don't rule out experiences of re afterlife through dreams and visions. Jesus showed heaven to my father in a dream, he didn't die, though he's late now.

Also the brain is one of the first organs to die not the last, Google it to confirm.

hahn:


Let me tell you one absurd story.

My wife's father's pastor lost his wife in a ghastly accident. He told me they were together when she decided to buy something to cook dinner while he was preparing for service. He waited for about 3 hours and she didn't show up. He called her number but it was unavailable. Then he decided to go and look for her. When he got outside of the house, someone told him there had been a serious accident just in front of the house and told him the hospital to check. He then decided to go to the hospital to see for himself. The first body he was shown was that of his wife. Honestly, it was devastating. They've been married for years and have 5 kids together.

Now, while I was at the house(he came to my in-laws house), I over heard him telling some ladies that his wife appeared to him [size=20]in a dream[/size] and told him that she is now in heaven. He also said that his wife told him that she was found pure and holy but wouldn't have made heaven because of the weave-on on her head but god forgave her and told him to warn women not to put on weave-on.

Frank317, ifeness, plaetton, menesheh, shollyps I need your input on this. Despite the fact that I find this truly disturbing, I feel he just needed a way to cope with the situation. However, I still feel funny about the whole thing.

KingEbukasBlog:


This is not a reasonable question

Shollyps:
lol......do I sound like one?

manmustwac:
Please explain to me what is not reasonable about my question? How can you believe there's an afterlife when you don't believe there's a before life? In other words you know there's no such thing as a before life because there's no evidence that it exists. Therefore for the same reason there is no such thing as an after life.

johnydon22:

You are just so cutely naive about things that i wonder why you should lay out naive confident assertions, in your tiny mind atheists means you don't believe in spirity stuffs.

Well for your information atheism simply means One who do not believe in Gods.

There are dozens of atheists who believe in Spirits, Voodoo, demons, even afterlife and reincarnation.

these are personal beliefs and has nothing to do with one being atheistic or theistic, there are theists who don't believe in those it doesn't make them any less theistic any more than believing them makes one any less atheistic.

Let me hope you won't still put ATHEISTS as a label for those who don't believe in spirity stuff because it sells you off to be quite naive about it all.

KingEbukasBlog:


Reasoning at its finest

KingEbukasBlog:


Because they do not know what they believe in . If someone just believes in God and rejects the supernatural events concerned with religion , he is a deist .

That is not theism it is deism . An atheist can never believe in entities such as ghosts , demons because they associated with the supernatural . And their existence cannot be explained naturally.

Please stop writing stuff boldly in a forum like this . UyiIredia is not naive , you are the one who is . And the fact it was boldly written makes it more embarrassing .

And 3 'likes' and 5 'shares' show desperate the typical gullible naive atheist on Nairaland is . They are ready to support your comment as far as its against the view of the religious

ichommy:


You just broke rule number 6.
Dont answer Question with Question.

KingEbukasBlog:


Because they do not know what they believe in . If someone just believes in God and rejects the supernatural events concerned with religion , he is a deist . That is not theism it is deism . An atheist can never believe in entities such as ghosts , demons because they associated with the supernatural . And their existence cannot be explained naturally.

Please stop writing stuff boldly in a forum like this . UyiIredia is not naive , you are the one who is . And the fact it was boldly written makes it more embarrassing .

And 3 'likes' and 5 'shares' show how desperate the typical gullible naive atheist on Nairaland is . They are ready to support your comment as far as its against the view of the religious

johnydon22:


There are dozens of atheists who believe in Spirits, Voodoo, demons, even afterlife and reincarnation.

UyiIredia:


Let them like themselves; it doesn't make their stance any less silly. I used to argue on Richard Dawkins site, they usually banned Christians when they got owned; it happened to me on two occasions. The site is no more existent, confusion came in their midst and now it's all a memory. The new site is just a place they gather to mock or criticize religion. Give it time faith, think in terms of eternity, faith will have the last

johnydon22:


You see? all your own argument revolves around your own beliefs, others also lay out claims that goes in coincide to their own beliefs..

A muslim would see allah, even a Hellenistic believer would see Zeus and Igbo traditionalists claim to have been to the land of the ancestors and back... these are always in relation to the person's psychological tilt..



I am to start taking your dad's dream serious now? Many people also have dreams about their own version of afterlife... Brain also is responsible for dreams..

Am Sorry about your dad...


You see why i warned against confident naive assertions, the brain fails when it lacks sufficient oxygen in a body.

Brain death takes minutes and is different from brain failure. .

KingEbukasBlog:
So johnydon22 . From your response I deduced that some atheists are superstitious . Please , am I wrong ?

UyiIredia:


My dad was a pagan, he didn't dream of pagan heaven with his ancestors, he drram of Jesus and heaven which he didn't believe.

He isn't the only one. Joseph wanted to put away Mary and he had a dream urging him otherwise.

Muslims and atheists experience NDE's where they see Jesus and heaven. Why ignore that? The vast differences in people's NDE experience shows that God transcends the boxes of various religions, it's only a mind trapped in a that will insist it means it's all hogwash.

No probe about my Dad I expect to see him again.

johnydon22:
Yes very true, many atheists are superstitious as well as many theists are not.

You people tend to mistake atheism to mean scientific inclined individual or there about but this isn't so..

Atheist simply means one doesn't believe in personal Gods...

What thing that person believes or disbelieves has no relation to that.. because many atheists tend to lean on the side of employing scientific explanations doesn't mean all of them does.

Though these might be relatively few in relation to those who don't because some just tend to employ scientific skepticism on such premises as well.

I think we have one of such atheists here.. folkaze something like that.. he is an atheists but believes in Ogun charm spirit stuffs..

KingEbukasBlog:


This keeps getting interesting . Thanks for the response again . But I need to know the views of other atheists . cc : plaetton , hahn , davien , dalaman , ifeness , kay17 , (frank317 ) , freecocoa , Krystalzkris, menesheh , Goosebaba , macof .

hahn:


Let me tell you one absurd story.

My wife's father's pastor lost his wife in a ghastly accident. He told me they were together when she decided to buy something to cook dinner while he was preparing for service. He waited for about 3 hours and she didn't show up. He called her number but it was unavailable. Then he decided to go and look for her. When he got outside of the house, someone told him there had been a serious accident just in front of the house and told him the hospital to check. He then decided to go to the hospital to see for himself. The first body he was shown was that of his wife. Honestly, it was devastating. They've been married for years and have 5 kids together.

Now, while I was at the house(he came to my in-laws house), I over heard him telling some ladies that his wife appeared to him in a dream and told him that she is now in heaven. He also said that his wife told him that she was found pure and holy but wouldn't have made heaven because of the weave-on on her head but god forgave her and told him to warn women not to put on weave-on.

Frank317, ifeness, plaetton, menesheh, shollyps I need your input on this. Despite the fact that I find this truly disturbing, I feel he just needed a way to cope with the situation. However, I still feel funny about the whole thing.

Shollyps:
lol...serious? I am not aware of it o.....am not an atheist...I don't know where I belong to......wat about you?

donnffd:


A dream is just that , a dream, we associate meanings to dreams when there shouldn't be any. Dreams are not supernatural, they are a result of chemical processes in the brain. So I wouldn't bother myself dwelling on that