₦airaland Forum

Donlittle:
well am asking you how many times do you pay tax? you probably never paid tax be4

Before your mother and father moved to lagos from their villages. Foolish little don.

The trains are simply too old and not good enough. If the state cannot afford the project, do not go into it. Nigerians always think of today and not tomorrow. We do not have the resources to operate old trains. The masses who the trains are supposed to be for, would not be able to afford the rides, as part of the cost for maintenance will be passed to them as fare. The idea is good, the execution should also be good. He should ask himself whether the project is sustainable and affordable even after he is out of office. I do not argue with fools, and idiots content with mediocrity. It is my home state, and i ask for the best for my people. Simple. If you dont like my opinion, please take a dive off the crumbling third mainland.

Gbawe:
The fact is that the the Speaker will come from within the ranks of SW PDP members if the Party has indeed zoned the position to the region. Why not look at the CV of the few PDP Reps who are eligible before you start insulting a man who is a lower house legislator and thus knows other Reps well? Do you expect Gbajabiamila to blindly support any PDP SW candidate , just so the SW retains the position of Speaker, even when he may be fully aware of their ineptitude and indolence? Haba !!!!!

All well and good. But instead of throwing the towel because he is not PDP and looking like a coward, people pleaser or a defeatist, he should prompt ACN members to work hand in hand in ensuring the right person gets the position. Because a few members from the SW are PDP doesnt mean something good cannot come from one of them. Instead of being part of the problem, why not become a solution to the problem? Suggest that the SW Speaker comes from either ACN or PDP. After all the position is being zoned to SW, not specifically SW PDP members. the NA is comprised of so many other parties. They should not accept being sidelined because they were chosen by the people. The SW members should come together and either decide to cross party lines, or vote the best SW PDP member they have right now.

[quote author=bkbabe.97y link=topic=668039.msg8332001#msg8332001 date=1305560088]Its always good to have an idea when trying to argue an issue. Jumping into an argument without the proper facts always makes one end up looking like a fo*ol; ask George Bush!

Dude, just a 1.2 mile extension of the 7 Line is supposed to cost us $2billion. Just on barely a mile extension of one line! ONE LINE!!! Do you know how many Lines there are in NY? 24 and 3 shuttles? Do you know how many hundreds of miles of train tracks NYC? Did you notice too that your report was based on a 1994 report?! Even NY has been seeking money to upgrade its train systems forever. . . .

My point?

If New York State doesnt have the money, I doubt Lagos State does.

The trains going to Lagos are absolutely perfect. If its good enough for NY, its good enough for Lagos![/quote]As you have an opinion, so do i. Lagos state cannot afford these trains. I actually know better what i am talking about than you do, i will also not argue ridiculously and childishly with you. It is my state after all, i have a stake in the affairs. Truth be told, it is not good enough. It is too old, and too costly to maintain. When Fashola leaves, the next governor might not care too much and cut corner's. It is best he does it right than to go into it at all.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=668039.msg8331924#msg8331924 date=1305559584]1. Why isn't getting from point A to point B as cheaply as possible OK?--- His ambition to be president is what i mean. Window dressing is not good enough.
2. Why aren't the cars good enough?- They are simply too old and not energy efficient
3. How do you know that they are too expensive to maintain?- Check NY's budget woes and what it takes to maintain these trains, we do not have the resources and the average citizen will not be able to afford the cost to ride the trains.
4. How do you know countries are moving away from this sort of train? Even China, the cheapest country i know did not invest in these archaic trains.[/color]

/wiki/Toronto_Rocket_(Toronto_subway_car), they are just using a newer model of what Fashola is buying[/quote]

Eko Ile:
So because we lack maintenance culture, we shouldn't advance or solve our transportation problems right? Is this the supreme apex of your smartness? So we should just sit on our hands till we are capable enough to maintain our infrastructures? Is this what our leaders should be basing their judgment on or how our leaders brain should be running our lives? Just sit there and don't do nothing because we are useless and incompetent?

We complain because we ar5esadled with useless and incompetent leaders, we still fault and complain because we have leaders out there challenging and taking us to the next level.

Funny how the same silly crap was said and yelled all over the place about the BRT, but BRT is still functioning and the buses are still on the road. Agreed, you folks are used to lousy ways of doing things before BRF showed, but he's not your average beer and pepper soup Nigerian administrator.

Many of you try so hard to act like you are spewing intelligence, but in many ways, you sound backward with backward mentality.

If Fashola is going to do something, he should do it right. He should leave a good legacy and something that works! Not do things to get from point A to point B. These trains are simply not good enough. They are also too expensive to maintain. Every country i know is trying to move away from these types of trains. ANything worth doing is worth doing well. If he knows he cannot deliver the best when it comes to these light rails, he is better off scrapping the project. This is human life we are talking about. He is a good governor no doubt, but he is going to be there for four years only. What will the next governor do? Will he give a rats as*s about maintenance?

[quote author=bkbabe.97y link=topic=668039.msg8331809#msg8331809 date=1305558873]As I understand it, Your country cannot even give its citizens enough electricity to power an electric can opener. Yet, you want her to provide you with the SAME type of trains that countries that generate their electricity through nuclear technology use?!

Are you serious? Do you see the irony in your demands? You think these sort of trains are coal powered or you think people push them from behind, along the rails, from stop to stop? C'mon son, get real.[/quote]The older trains are going to be run by electricity as well are they not? So where do they expect to get that infrastructure for these old trains? I am sure they have the plans on ground and the plans are feasible. With that being said, it is better to go for a faster, cheaper and easily maintained alternative.

[size=14pt]Provocateur: Light Rail Can Save New York!
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By George Haikalis

An artist's rendering of the proposal for a pedestrian-only 42nd Street with a river-to-river light rail system. Light rail--the modern version of streetcars--is a cheaper, faster and better-received solution to to expanding the transit system than many of the current proposals for new subways and regional rail lines.

An artist's rendering of the proposal for a pedestrian-only 42nd Street with a river-to-river light rail system. Light rail--the modern version of streetcars--is a cheaper, faster and better-received solution to to expanding the transit system than many of the current proposals for new subways and regional rail lines.

Proponents of plans to build the long-awaited Second Avenue Subway, Mayor Bloomberg's single-minded advocacy of an extension of the 7 subway line to the West Side of Manhattan and champions of a long list of other transit mega-projects have sparked a great deal of debate about the best way to expand New York City's transit system given limited funding sources. As the MTA weighs its options, it must consider three key issues: cost, construction time and public reception of the project. One proposal that is not currently a top contender for MTA approval is a light rail transit system on 42nd Street in Manhattan. Though it may not be as well known as the subways, light rail-the modern version of streetcars-would actually be a cheaper, faster and better-received solution than many of the proposals for new subways and regional rail lines.

Cheaper to Build, Cheaper to Maintain
The New York City Department of Transportation, in its 1994 Final Environmental Impact Statement, estimated the cost of the two-mile 42nd Street light rail line at $70 million, and the costs of rebuilding the remainder of the street-clearly in need of repair-at $30 million. Allowing for inflation, and inclusion of a plan for dramatic upgrading of the pedestrian environment, costs might be double the earlier estimate, or about $200 million. This would still be a bargain. At $100 million per mile, light rail costs would be less than one-tenth the cost of new subway construction in New York. The City's proposal to extend the 7 subway line for 1.2 miles to the West Side Rail Yards is estimated to cost some $1.4 to 2 billion. In addition, the operating cost of light rail would be substantially less than the bus service it would replace.

http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/magazine/033Summer/02provocateur.html

JudgeDredd:
I am not a lawyer. If u need one, head 2 Femi Falana's chambers!

@ 2mch: I hope you don't have a personal score to settle with Gbajabiamila. Read his utterance all over, the key word there is meritocracy, and not necessarily Zoning or no zoning. Let the best candidate be put forward, he/she can come from anywhere in Nigeria.

This is a PDP government, and they have decided to appoint the positions by zoning. That is their party's decision and the party choice, we will all go with it. What the man should be arguing is that, since they have zoned the position to the SW. The house should vote to decide which candidate to elect from the SW( PDP or ACN). When ACN gets the presidency, they can decide which way they want to appoint key positions. As of now, PDP maintains zoning, there is nothing anyone can do about it but go along and play their game. But play that game better than they expected. Demand ACN or PDP speaker from the SW. Meritocracy in Nigeria will come from simple steps such as these, not from antagonizing or cheating yourself out of government because you want to seem politically correct.

[quote author=bkbabe.97y link=topic=668039.msg8331609#msg8331609 date=1305557459]Just Incase you think you have an idea what youre talking about: EVEN HERE IN NY WE DONT HAVE TRAINS LIKE THE ONE YOU GOT IN THE IMAGE ABOVE!

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN NY ARE EXACTLY LIKE WHAT THE GOVERNOR OF LAGOS STATE IS PURCHASING FROM CANADA. Now, go figure![/quote]Yes, that is why we want better. I have been to NY and i know the cost it takes to keep the trains running. They are very old. We need trains that can last 50 years. These trains he is inspecting are outdated. We also lack maintenance culture in Nigeria. We cannot take care of these old trains. It will cost too much in the end. Buy new ones that will be good for 50 years. Those trains he is inspecting are not light rail, not at all. I have been in light rail trains. If he knows he cannot afford the project, he is better off doing other projects than bringing this heavy metal, archaic junk to Nigeria.

Gekko:
I must say i'm disappointed at the standard of trains being inspected in these pics but i guess its a matter of wanting filet mignon but only chuck steak available  

Besides i thought light rails are usually more modern looking in appearance, these rail-cars looks several generations old.

My point exactly.

Gbawe:
The speaker will come from the Party with the clear majority in the lower house. Simple as that . Also, stop insulting Mr. Gbajabiamila. His position is quite clear. Rather than we gain another indolent and inept speaker from the SW , just like Bankole, better if another zone produce the Speaker[b] if they can provide better candidates[/b] who will move Nigeria forward. I don't see how anyone can have a problem with that reasoning. Afterall , Bankole gave the SW nothing but disgrace with his troubled reign as Speaker. He is now going out disgracefully . I think the SW is somewhat tainted by that.

The SW retains the position. Mr Gbajiamila should shut up and find better things to do or say. Or better still leave the NA. Others are playing this political game ( by all means with vocal tribalism against the SW), and are being represented in the government at large. What will the SW gain staying out of the federal government? Whether PDP or ACN, the SW will get representation. Because the SW voted ACN does not mean that other zones should run our affairs. Afterall we voted PDP for president, not ACN. So we also deserve our rightful place. I will actually prefer the senate position. Being the opposition  doesnt mean that you should antagonize everything PDP. They are the presidency and have decided to appoint position's by zoning, hence we go with it. ACn should be willing to work across party lines for the good of the region if need be. They are not there to be fighting or to cowardly take a back seat in all affairs because they are the minority.  The ACN and PDP SW should work together to pick a candidate that will represent them and their regions interests. All this talk about SW doesnt need the Speaker position is very Stu*pid. What do we gain by depriving ourselves? ACN is begining to sound very juvenile.

Those train samples are too old, heavy and bulky. They cannot be energy efficient or safe for travel and cheaply maintained. Something like this below, should be what Fashola should be looking at. Enough of second hand okrika things for Nigeria. Nigerian's deserve the best:

[img]http://factoryofbubbles.files./2011/03/high-speed-rail.jpg[/img]

So ini edo the new bride with her new husband made money from Ini edo's bedroom skills. .What a shame to the new couple, especially the husband. . All of the properties bought should be confiscated and sold, with the money used to pay off the loan.

Mr Gbajamiala or whatever is a very naive person. The fact that SW voted ACN does not mean they should not have representation in Government. It is very naive of him to say this. He comes across as a crowd pleaser in real life. SW also supported Jonathan and he won. SW, may be the only zone he actually won truthfully. So the SW deserves the position as much as any Zone which was heavily rigged in Jonathan's favor and which he has already paid for those votes. What the ACN should argue is that the Speaker should come from any party if zoned to the SW. The last time i checked we were still Nigerian's, and will be represented in the government, whether PDP or not. If PDP decides to stick to zoning, then all parties must be considered in the zoning arrangement when considering candidates. The NA can decide to vote for candidates from the SW but that candidate can be from ACN or PDP. This should be Femi's stand, instead of sounding very childish. Who even granted him this ridiculous interview?

Ngodigha:
Barren woman, the Igbo are not responsible for your barreness. Why do you visit your frustration on a group that cares less about you?, Shameless daughter of a prostituting mother.

Desola:
Skunk! Who told you I'm Nigerian? I am a proud Oodua chick who couldn't be more proud of my race than I am now. Don't hate the achievers, it's after all not my fault that you lot have been relegated from number 4 to number 3. You are no longer relevant in Nigeria and it is all your doing. Suck the sour lemon and put up or SHUT UP!!

Afofungbemu akindanini omo irankiran.

Ngodigha:
How come the moderators do not read the thrash this pig writes all the time. Can't you write for once without displaying stupidity?. Death to you, entire family and gererations unborn. Ediott.

It seems like EzeUche is Ngodigha. He is too ashamed to fight this under his NL name.

Obiagu1:
You can glean the web for cases of beggars from the East to please you.
The fact remains that Yoruba beggars in Lagos, Ibadan, and other big SW cities are in their hundreds and thousands. Not rare cases of beggars from the East.

You said they are more subtle about it because they know what it means for an Igbo to beg.

Spin as much as you want, beggars are growing rapidly in the SW. The earlier it is tackled the better else you'll become like Kano and Kaduna.

All my life, it is Hausa's and nigeriens i have known to beg. Most are now yorubanized no doubt. They are the ones that go around shouting bambiallah. But your notion that Igbo's dont beg is a lie. They do, and i have seen many. Yes, much like Yoruba's you dont see them pretending to be blind or knocking down your side mirror for change. That is Hausa beggar's work. Yoruba beggar's are most likely area boys that may cause some kind of road block or spoil the road and pretend to repair it, while they deman money from you. Igbo's hang around churches to beg. Different styles of begging, but all na same. I am sure most of those returned to SW states are Hausa. Other SW governor's will soon return them to their final destination as well.

Obiagu1:
I don't know about Ebonyi because that State is really strange. One from Enugu, I'm not surprised about that. I expect rare cases, but 14 from Ebonyi, I now see why the 1st lady acted quickly about it.

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHYAP4ksCStMs3hCStZICjMSVnWJNuNhYKne2D4Y3hNI-A43Py[/img]

Even in Lagos, i see a lot of Igbo beggars around churches. They are more subtle about the act. But they will say "bros, abeg i never chop" " Help me with something smalll, i beg" Not trying to put anyone down, but please dont come out saying there are no beggars in Igbo land or Igbo's dont beg. I have seen them with my eyes. There are beggars all over the world.

Obiagu1:
Did I tell you I didn't read it?

Well, I will not argue with you on this. Take a bus to Enugu, go round the city, talk to the beggars there or from their look, you'll know who they are. After that, then come and comment on what you witnessed and stop talking crap.

We practice an extended family system and it's intensive. if it comes to a point that you can no longer feed your kids, a relative will take him/her away from you.

Read again:

2mch:
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Fourteen of the beggars, who came from Ebonyi, were repatriated to their state, while the one from Awgu in Enugu State was given a job in her pet project.[/size]
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/

Mai Suya:
where in the constitution is it stated that begging is not legal?

there you go.

The fact that they're beggars does not in any way stop them from being prosecuted should they break any of our  laws.

They must however break the law first, before the action within the law can be taken against them.

violent:
I'm convinced someone hacked into your account, this couldn't have come from you


You still don't get it, the law does not make allowance for the state to eject people it deems as nuisance, doing so at its own will is dangerous to everything that democracy stood for.
How then can we say we have a government by the people and for the people, if an elected, sworn in government disregards the constitution with impunity? what's the difference between now and the days of Abacha?

If we can disregard these people's right to movement, then we can as well disregard their right to life?  simply because they exist at the lowest rung of the ladder?  fúck that shyt!

In the UK, a Police Officer is about to be sentenced to jail, probably for the rest of his life, simply because he pushed a drunk, poor civilian hard on the pavement which eventually led to the death of the civilian.

No one should have a higher right than the other, this is no animal farm!

They were simply returned to their homes. Last time i checked if they are begging on the road, they are most likely homeless. And if it is career to them, then they were fired and given a free ride to their last known address. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, when did Niger or chad, become Nigeria?  Let them keep deporting them sef, all the better for people that dont have to go through all the harassment when they want to leave their homes. You still have not answered where it says in the constitution that being a nuisance and harassing people is legal; because that is what begging is. No matter how you like to dress it.

Obiagu1:
Have you ever been to the East? If you have, you wouldn't have posted this.
There are beggars in the East and they are Northerners, though they are few.

It's like an unwritten tabboo in Igboland to beg.

Stop lying, and go through this link below  again:

2mch:
I have lived in Lagos all my life. And 70% of the beggers are from niger. They have been there since the early 90's. begging is a business to them. And most SW states are urban. I think they will rather go to other SW states than face stiff competition in the north. Just like there are beggars all over the world. It doesnt mean anything. Look below and stop claiming that Igbo's dont beg too, some of them might even be Igbo:

[size=14pt]Enugu First Lady warns beggars[/size]
On June 16, 2010 · In News

Enugu— Mrs Clara Chime,  wife of Enugu State governor, has warned beggars to stay off  the streets or face arrest and prosecution.

Chime gave the warning, yesterday in Enugu while presenting gifts and money to some beggars arrested for parading major streets of the state.

According to her, “begging is not a good thing. I will give you money to go and start petty trading. I will also give you clothes for you and your children.

“If I catch you on the streets again, I will arrest and jail you. The annoying thing is that none of you is a destitute person because you all have houses.”

She criticised them for exposing their children to danger.

In her remarks, the Commissioner for Gender Affairs and Social Development, Mrs Ndidi Chukwu, recalled that the ministry had been taking the beggars off the streets only for them to return.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/

Fourteen of the beggars, who came from Ebonyi, were repatriated to their state, while the one from Awgu in Enugu State was given a job in her pet project.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/

violent:
The constitution is clear and firm, and is there to serve a purpose, not bent to do our own bidding.

It states that these individuals have a protected right to reside anywhere they wish in Nigeria, who't the state governor/legislators to say otherwise?

So the constitution states that they should reside on the road, and cost the government so much money to chase them away or bury them.  I do not see that in the constitution. And they are a nuisance, which can affect productivity and even investments in a state. Let them go back home and make something of themselves if Lagos is to expensive for them to live in. It is simply harassment and assault. Most of them also indulge in a lot of armed robbery and other criminal activities.

Mai Suya:
Does the State government have the right to deport--if thats the right term-- a Nigerian citizen from its State? Isnt that against the constitution that guarantees freedom of movement within the country?

Does the constitution state that they have a right to become a nuisance at their own risk? Where in the constitution does it state that begging is legal, and they have a right to harass and assault people for money? They should go to their homes where they have shelter's and family support around them. They were simply returned to their homes and not deported. At least they will not run the risk of death on the road ( burial at the state's expense) after being crushed by vehicles or being used for rituals. A lot of them are from Niger and should be deported.

Obiagu1:
Where do you live? Probably grew up in the UK or US.

The truth will always stare you at your face, deny as much as you want, the truth will always be there.
The almajiri has come to stay in the SW and their number is growing rapidly. Take it or leave it.

I have lived in Lagos all my life. And 70% of the beggers are from niger. They have been there since the early 90's. begging is a business to them. And most SW states are urban. I think they will rather go to other SW states than face stiff competition in the north. Just like there are beggars all over the world. It doesnt mean anything. Look below and stop claiming that Igbo's dont beg too, some of them might even be Igbo:

[size=14pt]Enugu First Lady warns beggars[/size]
On June 16, 2010 · In News

Enugu— Mrs Clara Chime,  wife of Enugu State governor, has warned beggars to stay off  the streets or face arrest and prosecution.

Chime gave the warning, yesterday in Enugu while presenting gifts and money to some beggars arrested for parading major streets of the state.

According to her, “begging is not a good thing. I will give you money to go and start petty trading. I will also give you clothes for you and your children.

“If I catch you on the streets again, I will arrest and jail you. The annoying thing is that none of you is a destitute person because you all have houses.”

She criticised them for exposing their children to danger.

In her remarks, the Commissioner for Gender Affairs and Social Development, Mrs Ndidi Chukwu, recalled that the ministry had been taking the beggars off the streets only for them to return.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/

Obiagu1:
Sokoto = 196
Kano = 75
Total = 271

Oyo = 83
Osun = 67
Ekiti = 21
Ondo = 7
Total = 178

Of those whose states were declared, one can see the trend, a competition between the North and the SW on who will produce the most beggars. At least the North and the SW have a common bond, ALMAJIRI.

Any one that has stayed long enough in SW and knows the language can claim he is from a particular area. Close enough so that they can return to the area or be dropped off at places where they know they have a chance of begging successfully. Your break down does not mean anything. In fact it is well known that most of the beggars in Lagos are from Niger. About 70 % of them.

playmode:
And which reality will that be? Can Nigeria fight a war with that relic? NO.Which country's Navy can that ship take on? So what is the point of the gift?

Can the USA dare dash South Africa,Egypt,Tunisia,Morocco or Algeria such an insulting gift? No .You know why? Because they respect those countries and its leaders.I can not say that much about dundee GEJ government.The USA has quite a large arsenal of ships even larger than the Uk and France combined,why did they not give us a 1995 ship? You  should be ashamed that your countries navy is accepting such a gift.It shows that the USA does not see our navy as a capable Navy.We are more like pets to the USA not equals and that is a very disturbing thought.

Now let me show what the best navy on the African continent looks like before you start talking out of your armpit.Nigeria is far far richer than SA ,so how come we don't have a functioning modern Navy? And how come we have to settle for scraps with all the funds we generate from the Oil industry? I do not see any reason why SA's Navy should be so advanced than ours,do you?

You want to kill them with these pictures? If Nigeria with its lazy fleet attempt to enter a submarine, the submarine will sink, because it will be filled with too many inactive akpu or pounded yam eaters. They dont even know what a navy drill is, and are most probably a bigger threat than pirates. Nigerian's have come to expect the bare minimum for themselves. It is too ridiculous. Any okrika thing they see, you will see the way they will be jubilating. Never see come see attitude. Nigeria, sometimes i think should be called "Nig*ger Kingdom of no progress or pride"

macjive01:
Sorry to spoil the taste here. But why is it that most successful Yoruba men end up marry Igbos ?

Otedola
Obj
Adekunle
Gobalcom marketing manager.

Dem plenty.

Femi Otedola's wife is Ghanian (nana), his father's wife is Yoruba. You dont have to lie to prove a point. OBJ has many wives, and his only legal wife the one he married legally ( the first one) is Yoruba.

Donlittle:
“International adoption gives succour to children with medical challenges,” he said, adding that screening was conducted for international adopters who wanted to adopt children from Lagos . He said 152 children had been adopted so far by 10 countries such as Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, Denmark and Belgium . The breakdown shows that 20 children were adopted by Italy; 41 by The Netherlands; 15 by Spain; 12 by Switzerland; 25 by Denmark; eight by Belgium; 16 by the United States; eight by the United Kingdom; two by Germany and five by Canada.

http://www.nigerianews24.com/articles/lagos-ejects-over-3000-beggars

We hope they are not giving these children out to predators as sex slaves. What kind of screening are they talking about, when everything in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder. Back ground checks on most of these parents may reveal some very sordid details. Do they ask them to bring court certified criminal background checks from their respective countries? The illicit trafficking of little children as sex slaves is very common, and Africa is easy to get these poor children from. The Lagos state government should be very careful and wary. Statistics also show that black children are the least likely to be adopted, especially in European countries. With a high success rate as this, one only has to really wonder.

[size=14pt]7 Stages of Grief, [/size]

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-->- This is where he is at the moment
You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT-
As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs.

You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING----> We pray he skips this part
Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion.

You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back"

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving.

During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.


5. THE UPWARD TURN-
As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-
As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE- ---> Hopefully He will get here 
During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward

Dede1:
I guess only a person of below average intellect would wakeup in the morning and assume all God's creatures are rosy. A loony had posited that Awolowo’s days are back in SW which included the good, bad and ugly. The unadulterated historical facts about the era of Awo and Action Group in western region should always be welcome idea to the Yoruba people. If you disagree with this fact, I guess it is due to your bout with a transformer.

Find a new meaning in your life that spending all day searching NL for keywords that contain "Awo". You can never damage the man's reputation no matter how hard you try. Your tantrums and repetitive thrash are not only predictable but similar to that of a mad man.

When super powers (China, USA e.t.c) of their continents are rolling out 2020 war ships, Nigerian's are excited about 1968 warship that looks like it needs to be melted down and used for dustbin. Ridiculous. Warship or Coast guard boat.

Ngodigha:
Don't be silly Bingo, surely you see only articles that centre on Ndigbo. Aszhole.

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=665296.msg8302388#msg8302388 date=1305158597]This alhmajiri will never stop[/quote]

Funny Thread. See as them finish Alhaji

The truth of the matter is that SW will get it, because they are a major group in Nigeria and all the Major groups must always get representation in the government. Despite shunning the Presidency polls, the fact is that GEJ still won in SW. To pacify the SW PDP members he will offer them this position, because the temptation to deflect and be in the same party as their colleagues (ACN) must be great! Also, he will want to put someone credible and a performer to hopefully change the view of SW'ers towards PDP come 2015. IF he relegates them to the background, whatever PDP has left in SW will vanish. SE has a better chance of fighting for Senate presidency, except if they prefer Speaker, and SW should get Senate presidency. Quite frankly i dont see why NC cant get SGF. But GEJ is smart for retaining the Speaker position for the SW. He will not be seen as punishing or rewarding the region.