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Wawelexy:
Bro let's leave it here, you have no answers to my question.... The post is basically about couples wanting a particular sexad their child, then you said the sex of a child can be selected biological, with proof, which I then challenged, the proof that are documented shows that those who did it successfully are people having their first child, then I posed my question asking you that what if they haven't done the sex selection stuffs and then still have their preferred choice of sex, should we attach that success to child selection process or nature... So what makes it difficult to comprehend my question if one can read simple English? No offence sir

I don't know how it is done abroad, but in Nigeria, sex selection is targetef primarily at people would have been having female chlld.


If you go through the process, then what you are doing is sex selection. It after the process you get yout desired sex, then it was definitely successful.

Sex selection is not only about selecting male child, it is also about selecting female child.

If you wanted to have a male child and had intercourse with your wife five days before ovulation and you still ended up having a male child when we expect than no Y-chromozome spermatozoa is still alive that would prove that it doesn't work. You can give it a personal try. Have sex with your wife five days before ovulation and see if you will have a boy.

Men who are very fertilize in that they have very high sperm count will most likely always have a baby boy it not exactly very necessary to try for a baby boy unless you don't want to take chances.. These people need to select baby girl through biological selection.

Because nature favours birthing a baby girl, men with normal or below normal fertility might need sex selection for girls.

If the method does not work it will not be explained in a textbook for medical students to the extent of stating it likely hood of success. It you are interested in a debate on it, I suggest you get in touch with any university lecturer n any medical school of your liking. I am not interested in debating it with you. If you, however, want enlightenment I am willing to enlighten you. I made the post because the op. seemed of desperately need it. I made it for enlightenment or assistant and not for debate.

Wawelexy:
Google is your friend sir, it's also used to pick sex... That being said, you haven't answered the question I asked you previously on the biological sex selection we are laying emphasis on..


Modified:

My question is, my research shows me the documented proof of successful child selection are mostly people having their first child, what makes you think they wouldn't have gotten their preferred choice of sex if the sex selection was not done... Moreover, it isn't as if knew they would be having a child against their choice of sex

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I don't understand your question, yhe bolded in particular. Nonetheless let me say this: when I used the phrase 'very very well documented" in my first mention of your post, I mean the principle of sex selection is well documented. It can be found in medical books. I read it in a medical book for medicine student in the university years after I first head about it in my teens. The hospital that advertised it I believe still exist today. I left the state in question years later.

Something that is in the textbook for medical student is not open to debate. If want you want is enlightenment, I am willing to enlighten you, but if what you want is a debate, I am sorry, I can't help you with that.

Wawelexy:
Google is your friend sir, it's also used to pick sex... That being said, you haven't answered the question I asked you previously on the biological sex selection we are laying emphasis on..


Modified:

My question is, my research shows me the documented proof of successful child selection are mostly people having their first child, what makes you think they wouldn't have gotten their preferred choice of sex if the sex selection was not done... Moreover, it isn't as if knew they would be having a child against their choice of sex

I still don't understand your question . Based on my comprehen sion of it. Your question is irrelevant to my post about sex selection. It appears you don't understand my post. But, I prefer to believe that you do understand the post and I am the one who doesn't understand your question. Kindly rephrase your question again. I still don't understand it.

Wawelexy:
Google is your friend sir, it's also used to pick sex... That being said, you haven't answered the question I asked you previously on the biological sex selection we are laying emphasis on..

I don't understand your question. Can you rephrase it ?

Wawelexy:
Did a little research via Google on this, I discovered that most documented proof of sex selection are people who are having their first child, the number of people who plied this root due to sex selection as a result of reoccurring unwanted particular child sex is relatively low... Now my question is, what if
II they were to birth that same sex which the they got via sex selection process even without doing it initially?😏 Since the selection isn't after the baby's sex has been detected.

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First, I want you to know that I don't really talk much on nairaland for personal reasons so, I am unlikely to have prolonged conversation with you unless there is compelling reason to do so.

Now to your question, I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it?

Wawelexy:
I repeat, there's nothing like sex selection... It's clearly written that it isn't 100% accurate, that you just have a high chance of giving birth to a particular sex when you do the IVF whatever. Stop deceiving yourself by forming woke.

IVF is not and never sex selection. IVF is used for women who have fertility issues. It is used specifically for people who have some sort of blockage in the fallopian tube. Eggs produced by the ovaries are unble to migrate towards the uterus in the hope of meating spermatozoa. Spermatozoa are unable to migrate through the fallopian tube to meet eggs or ova. With IVF, th ovary is made to produce numerous eggs and forcelly eject them so that they are forced to go past the blockage where the become accessible to spermatozoa. That is why almost always, people who use IVF usually end up with multiple babies.

Biological sex selection is for people who are fertile and wish to select the sex of thieir child.

Wawelexy:
Do all these you listed above against having a female child, and still end up birthing a girl child....






1. Abstain from sex for a reasonable period of time or drastically reduce your sexual activeness to increase the percentage of Y-chromozone spermatozoa in your semen so as to increase the likelihood of having one or more Y-chromozone spermatozoa surviving the hash and adverse conditions in the vagina and uterus if you want a baby boy or do the opposite if you want a baby girl. (The longer the abstainance the better)


When you follow all the necessary procedures and it works, it's 90% accurate, but if it fails you say moreover it isn't 100% guaranteed...lol

This method is based on well proved biological facts. Very very proved and very well documented and people have been using it successfully for decades. I first got to know about this when an hospital advertised it when I was a teenager. Apparently, they saw it as a major source of income. If you employ it you are certain to get result at the very first try, however there have been persons who did not get result at the first try. If most people get result at the first try an very few don't, then it still very reliable.

This method is way way better that having intercourse with your wife just any how and still hope to get a baby boy.

thatigbogirl4NL:
Married Folks Only Biko



Iya Baby Boys
Ndi nwere soldiers
How una dey do am

All the naming ceremony wey i dey attend na so so girl oo

I no want Pink jet now first
Na blue Jet i first want

I have a Family friend that has 4 boys 😯
Aged 8month, 2years 4years and 6years

She say make i watsapp Her, Say e get as them they run am, She go tutorial me.

Idey shy Run 😊😊 i no get strength for a Raw talking fa 😔😔
😍😍

( My observation, she has 3 brothers, she is the only girl in her family)

But me i have 3 brother and 1 sister
Meaning we are 2girls.


Do i stand a chance
Make una lecture me

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To biologically select the sex of your baby, you must know the following.


1.X-chromozome spermatozoa,which produce baby girl, are tough, rugged and long lasting and stand much higher chance of surviving in adverse conditions. However, they are very slow and sluggish in moving.

2. Y-chromozone spermatozoa, which produce baby boy, are fragile, weak and short lasting and stand very little chance of surviving in adverse conditions. However, they are very fast and very rapid in moving.

3. Each drop of semen contains millions of spermatozoa.

4. The environmental constituted by the vagina and uterus are naturally hostile to the survival of spermatozoa whether X-chromosome or Y-chromozone so that, out of the millions of spermatozoa in each drop of semen, few or none survive talk less of reaching the fallopian tube.

5. Depending on several possible conditions like for instance obesity , homonal inbalance,stress etc; the womb and vagina may be acidic or alkaline at any period in time (You may want to get more educating on what causes acidity of the vagina and uterus and what causes alkalinity of the vagina and uterus).

6. Sperm, being alkaline themselves, can hardly survive in acidic environment wether X-chromosome or Y-chromozone. They thrive in alkaline environment.

7. The more sexually active a person is, the lower the proportion of spermatozoa in each drop of his semen and vice versa.

8. The more sexually active a person is the lower the proportion of Y-chromozome spermatozoa in each drop of his semen and vice versa. This means that the more sexually active a person is the higher the proportion of X-chromozome spermatozoa in each drop of his semen.

9. If at least one Y-chromozone survives the hash and unfavourable conditions in the vagina and uterus, no matter how many X-chromosome spermatozoa that survive those same conditions; the Y-chromozone spermatozoa , being fast and agile, will out run the X-chromosome spermatozoa and very quickly navigate through the fallopian tube and fertilize the ovum. This means, the Y-chromozone spermatozoa is guaranteed to fertilize the ovum if it ever survives.

10. While Y-chromozone spermatozoa which survived the hash and adverse conditions in the vagina and uterus can stay alive for a few minutes (or at the most 24 hours), X-chromosome spermatozoa which survived the hash and adverse conditions in the vagina and uterus can stay alive for up to three days (or at the most five days).

11. The sex positions that allow deep penetration favour the survival of spermatozoa whether X-chromosome or Y-chromozome because they reduce the distance the spermatozoa must swim through before surviving.


To biologically select the sex of your baby, you must do the following.



1. Abstain from sex for a reasonable period of time or drastically reduce your sexual activeness to increase the percentage of Y-chromozone spermatozoa in your semen so as to increase the likelihood of having one or more Y-chromozone spermatozoa surviving the hash and adverse conditions in the vagina and uterus if you want a baby boy or do the opposite if you want a baby girl. (The longer the abstainance the better)

2. Have intercourse a few minutes before ovulation occurs to ensure that Y-chromozone spermatozoa are still alive by the time ovulation occurs if you want a baby boy or have intercourse several days before ovulation occurs to ensure that all Y-chromozone spermatozoa must have died before ovulation occurs if you want a baby girl. All women can tell when they are about to ovulate.( You may visit a gynecologist for educating if you can't tell when you are about to ovulate)

3. Use vagina gel,cream,washes or lotion that are meant for making the vagina alkaline to increase the percentage of spermatozoa that will survive if you want a baby boy or do the opposite if you want a baby girl.(You may want to consult a doctor or pharmacist for an appropriate prescription)

4. Use sexual position that allow deep penetration it you want a baby boy or use sexual position that disallow deep penetration if you want a baby girl. So called doggy position is an example of a position that allow deep penetration while so called missionary position is an example of a position that disallow deep penetration.


If you do all of the above, you will succeed in selection the sex of your baby. Note that this approach does not give hundred percent certainty, but it does give over ninety percent certainty which is good enough.



Modified:
There are drugs that increase sperm count used normally for men who have low sperm count. You may want to use such a drug in addition to absteinance because, generally, the higher your sperm count the higher the percentage of Y-chromozone spermatozoa in your semen and vice versa. You could additionally use the drug if you want a baby boy ( Consult a physician before you do this though).


Modified:
While the vagina may be acidic or alkline depending on several conditions, the vagina is naturally acidic. This reinforces the fact that to get a baby boy it is advisable to use vagina gel, cream, washes or lotion that makes the vagina alkaline.

If stress, homal changes or any other similar external condition does not interfere, naturally, the uterus changes from being acidic to being alkaline or changes from being alkaline to being acidic depending on what period of the menstrual circle it is. The uterus is usually alkaline during ovulation to encourage the survival of spermatozoa. This reinforces the fact that it is advisable to have intercourse a few minutes before ovulation if you want a baby boy.



All women feel heat in their ovaries when they are about to ovulate. This is a sure way for a woman to tell if she is about to ovulate. Women who cannot recognise this sign should consult a gynecologist to educate them on how to tell if they are about to ovulate.


Note: No where did I say people should consult a "chemist" or road side "chemist" or road side "pharmacist". You should consult a physician or graduate pharmacist or graduate of pharmacy where appropriate.

FRANCISTOWN:
Stop that shit bro! The God that didn't show up in his life for almost 30 years will suddenly show up right.
You guys don't know what once someone loses their faith, it can never be gotten back

Like him, I once lost my faith in God, but I got it back and I am doing great things for the kingdom of God now with my faith in God.


What he needs is guidance and encouragement.

For the record, he will not die and his circumstances will change for the better because I am praying for him. However, he needs to get back into fellowship with God and get back his faith. No faith, no victory. For now while try to find his footing, I got him covered by the grace of God.

Meaning:
Which church I never go? Which mountain I never climb? Which prayer I never pray? I don't think there is anything out there watching over us

One more thing. You will definitely, most definitely not die because I am interceding and supplicating for you. I am not guranteeing you a miraculous healing. I am guranteeing you gradual healing until full recovery. You will definitely not die. The issue with you is that you don't understand how to pray. God has your condition and situation covered because he Working for you through me.Just relax and get back into relationship with God even if it is gradually.

Remember what I said. God can work through humans. Be open to people about your ailment.

Meaning:
Which church I never go? Which mountain I never climb? Which prayer I never pray? I don't think there is anything out there watching over us

Please read the modified version of my last post before you read this



Okay, away from Bible and faith and God, let's anlayze your decision to do Yahoo Yahoo.

First, Yahoo Yahoo is not exactly a get rich quick scheme as most people see it. After learning how to scam with Yahoo Yahoo, you often have to "work hard" trying to get clients to pay for possibly a reasonable period of time. If you notice, one Yahoo Yahoo guy opt there hinted at the fact that, even if you learn Yahoo Yahoo, you may still not live long enough to get your first client which would supposedly help you take care of your mother. If you doubt this, create a new thread targeted at Yahoo Yahoo practitioners. Give them the background story of why you have chosen to learn Yahoo Yahoo. Then ask them how long it took each of them to get a catch and how long it took them to get a big catch. It is because it is no longer easy to get "Clients" to pay that is why many have started going into Yahoo plus. So, considering how much time you have left to live, Yahoo Yahoo is not your best bet. You may want to consider Yahoo Yahoo plus instead.

If you choose to go into Yahoo plus instead. You have to do some form of ritual. The most common one that we have been hearing of is using girls' pant. To get a girl whose pant you must use, you need to attract one. Usually Yahoo boys use money to attract girls, but now you don't have money. Some boys use good looks to attract girls, again, you don't have good looks. So, what will you use to attract girls. Nothing. Generally to do Yahoo plus whether using girls pant or some other approach. You need money. So, similarly, Yahoo plus is not a good choice for you. You may want to consider money ritual instead.

To do money ritual you don't really need money. You more importantly have to use some else or yourself. If you decide to use someone else, your mother seem like the most likely options, but you don't want that. You are, in fact, doing it for your mother. So, what if you use yourself, you may have a never ending disease or never healing wound or loss of your manhood or similar thing. There is two possible problem here: one you may be given a time duration for which you will be alive to spend your money. Which is supposed to be two years or something in that range. The problem is that demons will inform the babalawo that you don't really have much time to live and so being the evil that they are they are likely to give you two weeks instead. That means you will be stupendously rich for two weeks. You may feel that that is good enough for you and that you will definitely be able to ensure your mother lives in luxury for the rest of her life even after your death. But there is one problem: all juju have do's and don't's. Of you do any of the don't's the juju will stop working. In case of money ritual, you will become poorer than you were before doit the ritual. If one of the don't's of the ritual, as is commonly is, is never spent even the tiniest Kobo on your relatives or loved ones, then your mission would have failed. You won't be able to help your mother. So, again, money ritual is not your best bet.

So, what is your best bet? God - faith in God. So, what should you do? Get your spiritual life back in shape. Get back to reading your Bible and praying. Get back to trusting God and exercising your faith in God. But don't try to exercise big faith. Discern the current level of your faith and function with that small faith.

1. You can pray and trust God to raise someone to take care of your mother after your death. With this you can die in peace believing that your mother will be taken care of. This requires very small faith.
2. You can pray and trust God to raise some one to start taking care of your mother before your death. You can create a thread for that asking for help. But do not do it with seeing that thread as your only hope, rather believing that God will work through it. God can choose to work through it and he might not. Just do that and any other similar thing that you can think of trusting that God will work through them(He may use others means you are not expecting instead though) . Some people may call you scammer, Yahoo Yahoo boy or similar names because of that thread, don't let it get to you.This will also take very little faith, but one bigger than the former.
3 You can pray and trust God to raise someone to take care of your mum and also help you to stay alive for longer For this you can do the earlier thing I said, but, in addition, open up to people about your ailment, trusting God to bring someone your way who will have the knowledge, skill, expertise or connection needed to help you stay alive for longer. The person could be a physician or someone that can connect you with the appropriate physician.
This would still require small faith.
4 You can pray and trust God to raise someone to take care of your mum and also heal you. For this you can do the earlier thing I said, but, in addition, open up to people about your ailment, trusting God to bring someone your way who will have the knowledge, skill, expertise or connection needed to bring you healing. The person could be a physician or someone that can connect you with the appropriate physician.
This would still require small faith.
5. You can pray and trust God to heal you through the approach mentioned above and that he bless you with a good job to take care of your mother by yourself. This will require small but bigger faith.

And on and on like that.


I hope this helps you.

Meaning:
Which church I never go? Which mountain I never climb? Which prayer I never pray? I don't think there is anything out there watching over us

Sadly, like you, I once came to a point that I stopped believing God exist because he seemly failed me when I needed him most inspite my supposed, great faith in him.


Thank God, today, I have risen above that.

There are a few things you need to know about faith, prayer, healing, God and miracles. Many preachers will not tell you this, but I will.

1. Faith is levels- you must discern the current level of your faith and function at that level. Biblessings says we should function according to the PROPORTION of out faith(Romams 11:6). Trying to function at a level of faith you have not attained will only lead you to " "crash landing". Unless you have come to a point where you can receive healing for yourself entirely by faith, use the service of a physical with faith. That is trust God to help you attain healing through the help of a physician. That is still faith albeit a much smaller size of faith.
2. Healing is not necessarily miraculous: Yes, there is miracle healing. Heaing in its standard form is gradual recovery. Jesus said when we lay our hand on the sick they will RECOVER. That does not suggest instantaneous healing. It takes great faith to effect instantaneous healing. It's takes much smaller faith to effect gradual recovery.

3. A time comes in your life when prayer of others will not work for you: Like human father's, God expects his children to grow up to maturity. He is unhappy when his children persist in infancy. Bible spoke of those who still have need of being taught when they ought to be teachers. Once you get to a point when God expects you to be able to resolve things all by yourself through your faith in him, he will stop regarding prayers to resolve issues in your life that you solicited for from others. At that stage you either SINK or SWIM. He may show you mercy once in a while, to give you time to grow up to be able to swim out of the sea that seem to drowning you, but if you don't use those short period or reprieve to make effort grow, you will eventually sink. He will be glad to receive your home than you Living perpetually as an infant.

4 Fire brigade approach rarely work with faith: It takes time and continuos effort to grow faith from little to great. If you have not taken time to develop your faith in you he past when you were not faced with crises, it is unlikely that you will be able to muster large enough faith at a very short time to resolve a crisis . You need to constantly walk on developing your faith. You need to constantly grow.

5. There are different kinds of prayers: (1 Timothy 2:1) Different situations require different prayers. Prayer is not one size fit all. Each prayer had its own rule. Using the wrong prayer for a given situation will not produce the right result.

In prayer of faith your pray once and only once and believe right there that you have your answer and stand fast in faith, no matter how contrary to your faith the sense evidences you see, until the answer shows up and no matter how long it takes. Prayer of faith is employed when you need definite items like money, job,etc. In prayer of faith you make a request based on a definite promise of God and you believe you have received that request there and then, no matter how contradictory the sense evidences are.

In prayer of supplication you keep praying until you receive your answer in your spirit. You don't stop praying until then. You may have to pray for days, weeks, month,or years ,if need be , until you receive your answer in your spirit. You pray the prayer of supplication when you are in need of help. when you need a change of circumstances, when you need divine intervention. Literarily, to supplicate means to ask earnestly for help. When you supplicate, you treat God like a Judge and make a convincing case for the help you seen based on as many promises as you can gather. You close your case when you receive your answer in your spirit. This could take very lengthy period. Bible says "Bring forth your strong reason" KJV. Another translation says,"Bring forth your strong arguements'. You can supplicate for yourself or others.

Intercession is carried out exactly how supplication is carried out. You intercede only for others and not for yourself. You intercede for a person when he has done something that deserves judgment or punishment or consequences. The purpose of intercession is to avert judgement, punishment or well deserved consequences.

In your own case, what you should have done is to supplicate.

Like I said, you have to be discerning of the level of your faith. That some use his faith in one manner and got instant result does not mean you will get instant result if you do the same thing. While faith always work and produce result no matter the size as Jesus said in Luke 17:6 , bigger faith get things done more quickly, but smaller faith gets things done less quickly. The vast majority of people with small faith give up before their faith completed the task. This often leads to being disoriented, losing faith in God and such like which I call "crash landing".

Finally, I will say this: if you became genuinely born again, you don't ever stop being born-again no matter what. That you no longer believe in God doesn't mean you are no longer born again. That you decide to go into Yahoo Yahoo does mean you are no longer born again. It doesn't not mean you will end up in hell if you don't retrace your steps. There will be consequences though, but one of them will not be going to hell. ONCE SAVED, FOREVER SAVED. Being forever saved does not mean being saved from the consequences of sin however. Does this mean I am encouraging you to go into Yahoo Yahoo! No, not at all in my next post I will give you reasons not to go into Yahoo Yahoo from the stand point of pragmatics.

IyaebeTheGreat:
Well, you may be right. As for the IP whatever you can't trace someone who doesn't use their details for registration. I have five phones and use just one for Nairaland, and I also have someone who creates email for me whenever I want to register, I learnt this when I knewly joined because I was seeing people I never replied their mail sending me messages directly and my Friend in religion section advised me on that.

As a programmer, I will tell you this: every time you log in nairaland, or create a thread or make a post or view a page your IP address, your Mac address, IMEI, your browser type, the exact device you are using and lots more. Those don't happen only when you register.

That means that it doesn't matter how many accounts you create, for as long as you use the same SIM Se.un can identify you if he wants since he can capture any details he wants. The only way you can have a fighting chance of beating Se.un in this is to use only one SIM and only one device per nairaland account you create.

So, yes, Se.un can stop the excesses on this forum it's just that he chooses not to for pecuniary reasons.

ednut1:
Know that if the news is true. The court is still coming for all the assets acquired during the marriage. He committed marital fraud is he transferred his assets to his mother without the wife consenting.

To the best of my understanding, what is co-owned in Western marriages are assets and not salaries. A person is at liberty to spend his money as he so wish for as long as their is no previously placed court-restraint. The man in questions could as well give 80% of his sakary to charity. The salary wat paid to him as indicated in his payslip to his individual bank account and not a joint account. If he chooses to send 80% of his salary from his personal account to his mother that cannot be termed fraud. The trick there is that consequent to transferring 80% if his salary to his mother, his mother acquired all the asset he desired to acquire TECHNICALLY for herself with HER OWN MONEY. Absolutely no fraud was committed. Unless you are saying that his mother committed fraud by acquiring his desired asset for HERSELF WITH HER OWN MONEY

VoidLife7:
I was on this platform with heavy heart seeking for individual opinion pertaining to my mums decision to forcefully give out my little sister's out in marriage to a 43 years old divorcee with three kids

You can go through the thread i posted on the 14th day of February, 2023. From the link below you'd have a clue of where I'm coming from

https://www.nairaland.com/7569238/mum-planning-forcefully-give-out

All thanks to everyone for their contributions on the thread that very day. I was encouraged to stand by my sister. I was convinced never to allow my mum take such decision. All thanks to @keepingmum who sent me some money to complete her apprenticeship fees. I got a DM from @amdman asking for my phone number and house address to confirm my genuity through his lawyer. I gave them all they needed from me.

His lawyer and one other person came to my house last Sunday (19/2/2023) to see my little sister, my mum and her younger siblings. They met everyone of us in the house that very day

My mum was questioned concerning her decision to give her out in marriage. She made them understand it's never intentional nor her wish but situation of things in the family. She's not comfortable seeing these children suffering while she was still alive. She's scared what will become of them if paradventure she's gone. It was a friend who talk her into it considering the situation of things in the family. She was so emotional and started crying. She went back to memory lane (25th, May 2005) when the girl was birthed through CS and handed over to her by her brother. She cried that very day of visitation when the lawyer was talking to her.

The girl will be 18 by May and she wish to become a lawyer and future SAN. She hope to also run a large fashion store as a seamstress with lots of girls working for her, and all my mum could come up was to give her out in marriage to a divorcee. She thought giving her out in marriage will help reduce the burden in the family.

All thanks to @amdman who sent his lawyer to verify. After their visit, my mum began to retrace her steps. They promise to support her achieve her dreams. A good Samaritan sent us money for her to put in for JAMB

After the visitation, @amdman set up a WhatsApp group with some kind hearted individuals who had shown interest in supporting the little girl and her mother

I'd beseech anyone willing to support this little girl to contact @amdman on this number +1 (437) 221-5476 to be added to the group for collective efforts.

All thanks to everyone for your advice. Y'all are awesome❤

Why don't you let @amdman post the phone number by himself.

Daejoyoung:
Say you want to preach to an unbeliever, and he asks you how does the death of jesus make me righteous? what would be your answer?

The death of Jesus makes it possible for people to become born again. When people become born again,the are a born with a new nature.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Ephesians 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

abbey621:
So you mean millions of people would ignore his health, tribe, party and other shortcomings and vote for him based on certificate? Stop pulling my legs jaare, which kind comedy be this

I can't tell what the number will be, but I know he will sway a lot of minds. Maybe not millions, but every vote count . People can win or lose election by a vote difference.

abbey621:
What I'm saying is that certificates is not what he needs to prove to the electorate, person wey go vote Tinubu go vote for am, with or without certificates. Even if he indeed does not have the credentials, the ebst thing to do at this point is to ignore the noise, this is what good camapign managers and lawyers would tell him.

No, if Tinubu can fix the certificate issue, he will sway a lot of minds and get more votes.

I was one of buhar's greatest enemy because of his inability to produce his WAEC certificate, but when he finally produce the WAEC attestation, I let things slide.

abbey621:
You're making lots of assumptions, you actually assume he needs to prove anything....lol.

What! Are you joining? Of course he needs to prove to the electorate that he is worthy of thier vote. Yes, he needs to,indeed, prove a lot.

Although, I am Yoruba, I won't vote for Tinubu neither will I vote for Atiku. I will vote for Peter Obi even though I know he will not win . I will rather waste my vote than to be responsible for bringing misfortune on Nigeria.

For the records, I don't hate Tinubu. I have no reason to to hate my tribes man. I just don't believe he has the requisites to transform Nigeria.

However, if I were to choose between Tinubu and Atike, I will choose Tinubu, he is the better of two devils.

abbey621:
You should know Wikipedia is not a reliable source of facts, it can be edited by anyone. In addition, it's been over 21 years sinced I graduated secondary school, I hardly remember 50% of the people in my class not to talk of the entire set. How accurate can someone that schooled in the late 60s or early 70s actually be? Only the school can prove without a shadow of doubt whether he attended or not and I am willing to bet that school does not have records from the 60s, in fact in Nigeria less than 10% of all schools have records of students before the civil war.

The fact that Wikipedia can be edited is the more reason why Tinubu boys would have edited it to exclude Government College Ibadan because he never really was there. His boys would not leave such a stone unturned. I remember when one minister under Good luck Jonathan fell into scandal over her educational background, immediately her Wikipedia page was edited to exclude that information. I can remember her name now. She is an Igbo woman who I think headed the ministry of aviation and who is now in the Senate.

Well, I left secondary school more that thirty years ago and I can still remember the names of many of my class mates. The ones , whose name I don't remember, I still remember their faces. Additionally I can remember the faces of my seniors. The same goes for my primary school.

abbey621:
Oh in that case he should be able to have records for primary school. The government college he did not finish so he wouldn't have certificate for that but they should be able to verify attendance but this na 9ja, I'm not even sure both schools kept record that long but I'm sure people can find out. I believe he attended primary and secondary schools but what he is actually trying to cover up is his real name since we all know by now that he was adopted and was originally from a town in Osun.

If he really was at Government College Ibadan, if he approached them the can isst him an attestation that he was there student from such and such time to such and such time after which he dropped out. The records will still be there.

The truth is that he did not attend Government College Ibadan. It he did, his class/ school mate wout have lend him a voice affirming that he was there.
Instead, people whom schooled in that school as at that time have refuted that claim.

That document that Tinubu attended Government College Ibadan that people are sharing online is not real helping his course.

abbey621:
Oh in that case he should be able to have records for primary school. The government college he did not finish so he wouldn't have certificate for that but they should be able to verify attendance but this na 9ja, I'm not even sure both schools kept record that long but I'm sure people can find out. I believe he attended primary and secondary schools but what he is actually trying to cover up is his real name since we all know by now that he was adopted and was originally from a town in Osun.

Believe me, if he really attended that primary school , the records will still be there. Schools don't discard or lose records. I went to my primary school after donkey years. The still have record of my attendance.

The problem is that a prominent Nigerian has refuted his claim that he was at Government College Ibadan. The fellow said he was a student in that school at about the time Tinunu claimed he was there and that if he were really there, then, he would have seen him.

Attached is a screen shot from Tinubu's Wikipedia page. There is no mention of Government College Ibadan there.

One reason why Gani Fahenmi took him to court was that he lied on oath. He gave false information about his educational qualification.

seunmsg:
University degree is enough qualification to contest for president. What the law requires is a minimum of first school leaving certificate and a university degree is more than that.

According to you, he did not submit a copy of the university"s certificate. He claimed they were destroyed be the military.

abbey621:
INEC forms asked for primary and secondary schools completed. Primary school he was home schooled, secondary school he did not finish hence why he left them blank but like I said earlier black folks hardly ever do research, we prefer to wail online and ask rhetorical questions

Ah ! Ah! Ah! You are very funny. Because you saw Children home school, you concluded he was home schooled. For your information, Children home school, Ibadan is a prestigious primary school in ibadan. Also Government College, Ibadan, which is also on the document you attached, is also a reputable secondary school in Ibadan. Wole Soyinka attended same secondary school .

wandyvirus:
Freedom of Information act? You guys are so stupid that you can't put a rational thought together.
Let me try to help you:
1. He needs a GED to get into college. GED is NOT like GCE but both are similar in that it is NOT issued by any school but is an acceptable means of entrance Into a tertiary institution ESPECIALLY for Diploma or its equivalents.
2. He got into college, got a dip. Then used that to get into a university.
3. He graduated from a credible university and has since submitted evidence of that to INEC.
4. His degree is sufficient, over and above the requirements to run for the office of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
5. If you still need clarifications, go to Court.
6. It does not matter ANYMORE if he had secondary or primary education anywhere in the world.
7. If 6 above is giving you heart attack, then be ready 'cos that is your president for the next 8 years.
8. This is for all the extra ordinarily stupid comments repeating the same things like goats chewing the curd.

No, Tinubu has not submitted any university certificate. He said they were destroyed by the military government of Abacha when he went on exile.

frejatoye117:
A quick reminder

ASIWAJU TINUBU'S EDUCATION BACKGROUND

1- Asiwaju Tinubu Attended St John's Primary School, (Then Children Home School) In Ibadan Between 1958 To 1964

2- Asiwaju Tinubu Attended Government College, Ibandan Between 1965 To 1968 (Secondary Education)

3- Asiwaju Tinubu Graduated In 1979 With A Bachelor Of Science Degree In Accountancy From The Chicago State University.

Meanwhile Asiwaju Tinubu Served As A Senior Accountant In Exxon Mobile Something You Can't Do Without A Complete Primary And Secondary School Certificates.
Willy Ibimina Jim-george

Comrade Abdulkareem
#ABAT2023
#get_your_voters_card_ready

A prominent person has refuted the claim be that he was in GCI during those period, because he himself was at GCI at about that period and Tinubu was never there then.

seunmsg:
Tinubu’s presidency will usher in a period of economic boom and shared prosperity. All of us go cash out las las.

I am sure you said similar things about Buhari back then during his pre-2015 campaign.

MatrixCircle:
Nigerians no longer need his primary or secondary school certificates, all what they want from him is the names of the primary and secondary schools only

We are saying the same thing. If he gets an attestation, the name of the school he attended will be on it. The period he was a student in each school could also be on it. That way people who attended those schools at that time can either corroborate the claim or refute it.

seunmsg:
He never said so. He was silent about it in the form.

Let’s be clear, I’m not saying he did not attend primary and secondary schools o. He did not finish secondary school in Nigeria according to what he told Lagos state house of assembly during the investigation.

If Tinubu does not go to the schools he attended to get attestation that he attended those schools, then he does not deserve to be a Nigeria's president because he is taking the electorate for a ride. He said being Nigeria's president is his lifelong ambition. If that is the case, he should visit all the schools he attended and get an attestation. When he was sick he visited London and us for treatment because he deemed important. If he indeed sees being Nigeria's president as important, he will take a trip to those schools and get the attestation from them. I got an attestation from the university I attended when I requested for it and it is still with me today.

I was pretty young when I left primary school. Afer I got my certificate from the school, I was careless with it and it got lost. Many years after graduation from the university, I needed it for a job, since I couldn't find it, I assumed that I had not collected it from my primary school.

I visited my primary school asking for it. They checked their records and showed me evidence that I had received it and has signed for it on receiving it.

Clealy the name and signature was written in my hand-writing . I stood up and left.

The point I am trying to make is this: no matter how long ago he left those schools. They still have the records of his attendance. Let him go there and get an attestation from them. Anything else is not acceptable.

seunmsg:
He never said so. He was silent about it in the form.

Let’s be clear, I’m not saying he did not attend primary and secondary schools o. He did not finish secondary school in Nigeria according to what he told Lagos state house of assembly during the investigation.

Let him go and get an attestation from the primary and secondary school he attended even if he latter drop out of the secondary school. Let him also get an attestation from the remedial school he attended and the university he attended. I got one from the university I attended when I asked for it. It is still with me till today.

seunmsg:
Tender certificates that were burnt by the military when his house was attacked? Why are some of you so unreasonable? Where do you want him to get the burnt documents from?

Let him visit the schools he attended and let them issue him an attestation. Every educational institution has the power to issue an attestation. I got one for myself from the University I attended.