An adopted son is one's son. Joseph accepted Jesus as a son.
@ABuzola, you are indirectly destroying your Quran!

ok. Expose the lies.

@Ogaga4luv.

Bros Can you tender your evidence of your claim and status.


Regards.

dexmond:

An adopted son is one's son. Joseph accepted Jesus as a son.
@ABuzola, you are indirectly destroying your Quran!

That means its not from David's blood.

We can keep doing some elliptical reasoning. Truth is the truth, there is none of David's blood flowing in him. Or if there is, then there is no virgin birth, abi?

Dexmond why re u threatening me.

I'm not threatening you. In trying to fight against christianity, you forget what suratul mariam has to say about Jesus.

Let it not appear that you are indirectly speaking against the Quran.

You are making me fear and trembling with curiousity, what have i said against the Quran. The Quranic jesus differ from biblical jesus. Jesus was crucified according to ur bible and jesus is the son of God, or am i wrong ?

I will give answers to the above. Hearing you will hear, but you will not understand because you have not been baptized into JESUS' body.

Dexmond thats not the way to admonish. What kind of speech is that, saying he won't understand except he is baptize, this shows that you want to forge unrelevant and senseless answer. Ogaga need a relevant answer and not fuss. Please change ur tactic, thats not the way to admonish

I don't mean to insult anybody. If you feel it is an insult, i humbly and sincerely apologise. Our christian doctrine can become meaninful after God has given revelation by the power of his spirit. That is why it will be near impossible for you to understand the doctrine of God being a trinity!

We have used different examples like A adult who is a father, an uncle and a husband all at once. We said water can exist as a solid, liqiud and gas.

Kindly show us in the bible where jesus said God is trinity

Jesus never said he is/was a trinity. We infer from comments such as:

John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” When first encountered, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, when we look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement, “For a good work we stone thee not; replied the Jews, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.”

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him [Jesus], My Lord and my God.

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

John 15:26: "But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me."

You have intelligently dodged my question. Since u have no answer to my question then i presume jesus never knew trinity.


You quoted verses that jesus is God, am i right ? We are going to take a new dimension on who is God using the bible.

Mathew 27:46 jesus cried 'my God, My God why hast thou forsaken me' this verse disqualify jesus as God.


Mathew 14:23 'and after he (jesus) had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray' This shows that jesus worship God so how can he be God.


Finally: john 17:25 jesus said
'O Righteous father, the world has not known thee, but i have known thee, and these know that thou hast sent me'

the message is clear, can God send himself or utter jagons, how can God be talking to himself.

Does God have all the powers? If he has all the powers, can he change to anything? If he can change to anything, is it impossible for him to become man? If he becomes man, does that disqualify him as God?

How is it that we all believe that God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnopresent, we can not believe he took human form to pay the penalty for sinful man?

God is super power, agreed ! You are cunning. If God was man why did God do what i quoted, it disqualify God, how can God be telling us that he was sent by himself, why would God cry accusing himself of forsaking himself, why should God pray to himself, Why can God do nothing except by himself, tautology ? Absolutely absurd

To all your questions. Jesus had dual a personality! He cried, he thirst, he prayed, he fasted. All is to show the perfect way to serve God. He practised what he taught and left examples for those who wants to see God at the end. He performed miracles, he forgave sins which humans committed against God! he lived a righteous life and rose again as he predicted and as the Tawrat said!


Lord, I thank you for the privilege of knowing you. Not because I'm more qualified than those who are still searching, but that you might demonstrate that knowing you is entirely by your own revelation of your person. Thank you lord.

Dexmond- the truth doesn't need fashion. God had to be a man to teach people the Godly way. Hilarious ! Why the waste of time for centuries, why did God destroyed innocent generation. Your God did not leave animals, old , infant and women of the sinning people, He outrightly exterminated them- see Deuteronomy 3:6-7, Hosea 13:16, isaiah 13:16. The world is believe to be billions of years and it was 2,000 years ago that God decided to incarnate and come to the world to guide man, is this fair ? is this reasonable at all ?



God becoming a man. Lets look at what the scripture had to say pertinent to man


jeremiah 51:17
'Every man is stupid and without knowledge'

is this who ur God is ?

Mr man wake up and search for the truth before its too late

Why all these rants? Religionists' indeed. Examine yourselves first.

@ogaga, i have finish with dexmond. Can we have a cool chat in muslim section by opening a new thread so we can share our view and ve a cool discourse

Abuzola:

@ogaga, i have finish with dexmond. Can we have a cool chat in muslim section by opening a new thread so we can share our view and ve a cool discourse

there is nothing cool about religion walai

na big scam

Are you an atheist mr muzda

Who Is Jesus Christ?

Christ

Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”

Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people. He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”

The Messiah is the same person as "the seed of the woman" (Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant” (Mal. 3:1).

This is he "of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write." The Old Testament Scripture is full of prophetic declarations regarding the Great Deliverer and the work he was to accomplish. Jesus the Christ is Jesus the Great Deliverer, the Anointed One, the Savior of men. This name denotes that Jesus was divinely appointed, commissioned, and accredited as the Savior of men (Hebrews 5:4; Isa. 11:2-4; 49:6; John 5:37; Acts 2:22).

To believe that "Jesus is the Christ" is to believe that he is the Anointed, the Messiah of the prophets, the Savior sent of God, that he was, in a word, what he claimed to be. This is to believe the gospel, by the faith of which alone men can be brought unto God. That Jesus is the Christ is the testimony of God, and the faith of this constitutes a Christian (1 Cor. 12:3; 1 John 5:1)  

Hehehe what a god . God was beaten, spat and slapped mathew 26:67

people killed God and God cried mathew 27:46 lmao

Isaiah 53 (Prophesy and Vision of Prophet Isaiah about Jesus Christ )

1 Who has believed our message?
To whom has the LORD revealed his powerful arm?
2 My servant grew up in the LORD's presence like a tender green shoot,
like a root in dry ground.
There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance,
nothing to attract us to him.
3 He was despised and rejected—
a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief.
We turned our backs on him and looked the other way.
He was despised, and we did not care.

4 Yet it was our weaknesses he carried;
it was our sorrows* that weighed him down.
And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God,
a punishment for his own sins!
5 But he was pierced for our rebellion,
crushed for our sins.
He was beaten so we could be whole.
He was whipped so we could be healed.
6 All of us, like sheep, have strayed away.
We have left God's paths to follow our own.
Yet the LORD laid on him
the sins of us all.

7 He was oppressed and treated harshly,
yet he never said a word.
He was led like a lamb to the slaughter.
And as a sheep is silent before the shearers,
he did not open his mouth.
8 Unjustly condemned,
he was led away.*
No one cared that he died without descendants,
that his life was cut short in midstream.*
But he was struck down
for the rebellion of my people.
9 He had done no wrong
and had never deceived anyone.
But he was buried like a criminal;
he was put in a rich man's grave.

10 But it was the LORD's good plan to crush him
and cause him grief.
Yet when his life is made an offering for sin,
he will have many descendants.
He will enjoy a long life,
and the LORD's good plan will prosper in his hands.
11 When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish,
he will be satisfied.
And because of his experience,
my righteous servant will make it possible
for many to be counted righteous,
for he will bear all their sins.
12 I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier,
because he exposed himself to death.
He was counted among the rebels.
He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.

JESUS CHRIST'S SUFFERING


He began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed. Then He said to them, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death." (Mt 26:37-38)


WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

He was a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief. Is 53:3 (See all of Isaiah 53)

Because He suffered as a man, He cried out with tears to His Father. Heb 5:7-8

People spat at Him, hit Him, and mocked Him. Mt 26:67-68, Mt 27:27-32, Mt 27:36-44, Lk 23:8-11

He was crucified. Mt 27:27-56, Mk 15:16-41, Luke 23:26-49, Jn 19:1-37

On the cross, He was forsaken (or felt forsaken) by His Heavenly Father, whom He was obeying. Mt 27:27-56 (See Christ's Obedience)

He felt the pain of anticipating His crucifixion and the corresponding spiritual battle. Lk 12:50, Mt 17:12, Mt 16:21, Mt 17:22-23, Mt 20:17-19, Mk 10:32-34, Lk 9:43-45, Lk 18:31-34

As a man, He dreaded the terrible trial ahead. Mt 26:36-38, Lk 22:39-54 (See in context: Mt 26:36-56, Mk 14:32-42, Lk 22:39-54)

Even before His crucifixion, He had no earthly dwelling that He regarded as home. Lk 9:57-58

He felt physical weariness. Jn 4:6

He suffered the anguish of temptation just as we do. Heb 4:14-16, Mt 4:1-11, Mk 1:12-13, Lk 4:13

He felt deep compassion for those in need. Mt 9:36-38, Mk 6:34

He wept when Lazarus died. Jn 11:33-37

He wept over Jerusalem because the people were blind to their coming destruction - and to His salvation. Lk 19:41-44

People did not understand His loving sacrifice - that He would die for their sins. Is 53:8 (See all of Isaiah 53)

He was misunderstood by His own hometown and relatives. Mk 6:3-6

He had no stately form or majesty that people would be attracted to Him. Is 53:2, Is 52:13-15 (See all of Isaiah 53)

He was despised by men. Is 53:3 (See this verse in context: Isaiah 53)

He was betrayed by a close friend (Judas). Jn 13:21, Lk 22:2-6, Lk 22:47-48, Mt 26:47-50, Mt 26:14-16

At the peak of His suffering, even His disciples forsook Him and fled. Mt 26:56 (See in context: Mt 26:36-56)

People hated Him without a cause. Jn 15:22-25, Jn 7:6-8

People falsely attributed His works as Satan's. Mt 12:23-24, Mk 3:21-23, Lk 11:14-16

People thought that He had a demon. Jn 8:48-59

He was falsely classified as a glutton and a winebibber. Mt 11:18-19

Men despised Him and nations abhorred Him. Is 49:6-7

He was turned away. Mt 8:34, Mk 5:17, Lk 8:37

His own people, whom He created, did not receive Him. Jn 1:10-13

They thought He was out of His mind. Mk 3:21-23

Leaders plotted against Him. Mt 22:15, Mt 26:3-5, Mk 3:6, Mk 11:19, Lk 20:20, Jn 5:15-18, Jn 11:57

Even before the crucifixion, people attempted to kill Him. Lk 4:28-30

Knowing the murderous intentions of the spiritual leaders, He sometimes had to withdraw. Mt 12:14-15, Lk 13:31, Jn 7:1

Even as small child, His life was sought, and His family had to leave their own country. Mt 2:13-15


Note: He endures all the pains because he loves you and me.

'Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma'. Ephesians 5:2