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Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:19pm On Jun 12
Agrogbeide:


My Question Mr Dencotext; did the levites of old paid tithes and gave first fruits to other levites or levitical priests?

If you say believers are modern day levites and priests unto God, do you expect them as priests to pay tithe to other priests?



@Dencotext, this is a very valid question begging for your answer...

I'll be disappointed if you play the american/russian bot card here...instead of answering this question!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 6:35pm On Jun 12
Hello house,

One antither said they are circumcized, meaning they keep the LAW. He also quoted that Peter and Barnabas sided with the Jewish circumcision party, meaning they too kept the LAW! Its unthinkable that a Jewish believer is not circumcized.

What do we learn here? Paul said whether we keep LAW like the Jews or do not like to keep LAW as the uncircumcized Gentiles, it is faith in Christ that justifies us not the LAW, meaning there is nothing wrong in keeping some LAWs, provided we know that Jesus is the justifier! Now why are these circumcized antithers accussing us of keeping the LAW when they too are doing the same? Definitely they will circumcize their babies!

So do we agree that we can keep the LAW or some laws but if we believe in Christ we will still be justified by faith? I am being questioned for tithing while they are getting circumcized and circumcizing their babies and not finding anything wrong with this law keeping! Who is more spiritual?

Osanobua! shocked cry
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jun 12
Dencotext:
Hello house,

One antither said they are circumcized, meaning they keep the LAW. He also quoted that Peter and Barnabas sided with the Jewish circumcision party, meaning they too kept the LAW! Its unthinkable that a Jewish believer is not circumcized.

What do we learn here? Paul said whether we keep LAW like the Jews or do not like to keep LAW as the uncircumcized Gentiles, it is faith in Christ that justifies us not the LAW, meaning there is nothing wrong in keeping some LAWs, provided we know that Jesus is the justifier! Now why are these circumcized antithers accussing us of keeping the LAW when they too are doing the same? Definitely they will circumcize their babies!

So do we agree that we can keep the LAW or some laws but if we believe in Christ we will still be justified by faith? I am being questioned for tithing while they are getting circumcized and circumcizing their babies and not finding anything wrong with this law keeping! Who is more spiritual?

Osanobua! shocked cry
Go to bed bro because as it is you definitely do not have a point.

alBHAGDADI, LifestyleTonight a brother of yours is on the hot seat and he needs help.
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by alBHAGDADI: 9:37pm On Jun 12
Dencotext:
Hello house,

One antither said they are circumcized, meaning they keep the LAW. He also quoted that Peter and Barnabas sided with the Jewish circumcision party, meaning they too kept the LAW! Its unthinkable that a Jewish believer is not circumcized.

What do we learn here? Paul said whether we keep LAW like the Jews or do not like to keep LAW as the uncircumcized Gentiles, it is faith in Christ that justifies us not the LAW, meaning there is nothing wrong in keeping some LAWs, provided we know that Jesus is the justifier! Now why are these circumcized antithers accussing us of keeping the LAW when they too are doing the same? Definitely they will circumcize their babies!

So do we agree that we can keep the LAW or some laws but if we believe in Christ we will still be justified by faith? I am being questioned for tithing while they are getting circumcized and circumcizing their babies and not finding anything wrong with this law keeping! Who is more spiritual?

Osanobua! shocked cry

I like the way you have been knocking those Satanists. grin

@bold

The anti-tithing and anti-law people claim we are under the curse of the law for paying tithe. They forget that they are circumcized and will circumcize their babies which places them under the curse of the law, according to their understanding. grin

When we tell them that our tithing precedes the law, their blindness won't allow then see what we mean.

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Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by alBHAGDADI: 9:41pm On Jun 12
One Satanist says the reason why he advises circumcision is because it is medically advisable. But when we tell him that it is spiritually advisable to tithe, he kicks like a Satanist.

So much hypocrisy.

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Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:51pm On Jun 12
The Council at Jerusalem
15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

I AM SO SURPRISE THAT THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATED THAT SOME OF THE EARLY BELIEVERS WERE ACTUALLY PHARISEES . It only meant that they find nothing wrong in being Jewish, being circumcized, keeping the LAW of Moses (like paying tithes, a thing that JESUS mentioned the pharisees like doing... because they are the strickest sect of the LAW). Can you clearly see that the early Jewish believers have no problem with keeping the LAW themselves, but had to debate for days whether they should also enforce the LAW on the Gentiles?

Osanobua oooo! shocked angry kiss cry
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 11:14pm On Jun 12
alBHAGDADI:

One Satanist says the reason why he advises circumcision is because it is medically advisable. But when we tell him that it is spiritually advisable to tithe, he kicks like a Satanist.

So much hypocrisy.
I am telling you that antitithers have no conscience. Instead of accepting that the LAW is good (to be circumcized), you could see that the circumcision issue factored greatly as the key debate with the apostles whether to impose the LAW on Gentiles... tithing was not even mentioned here, but they will dodge the question. This antitither says it is medically advisable... OSANOBUA!! And he will still give his kids the mark of the LAW without thinking twice, when the apostle said it is not necessary for we Gentiles to be circumcized. shocked So who is keeping the LAW now... me or this antither who thinks he is working for God, but actually helping satan to spread lies about the LAW? My complaint is that I can find where Peter, Paul or Barnabas says Gentiles should not have to be circumcized as THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO keeping the LAW... but the antithing 666 american and russian bot sense of humor is to divert our attentions to it being good medically.
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 11:46pm On Jun 12
The High Priest of a New Covenant
8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2 and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.

3 Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” [a] 6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

Hello antitithers if Moses was commanded to build the tabernacle after the things in heaven, who is the high priest of the covenant who all the tithes belongs to? The Levites are shadows of Jesus... the Bible even complained that the Levites ministry is even inferior to Melchezedek, whom Abraham paid tithe to... now that JESUS the High Priest have come Himself, whose rank is in the order of Melchezedek... He deserves every form of our respect... this is the man that we should give everything to, whether tithing or offering because everything in the tabernacle of the old is patterned after the sacrifice of JESUS.
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:22am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
Hello house,

One antither said they are circumcized, meaning they keep the LAW. He also quoted that Peter and Barnabas sided with the Jewish circumcision party, meaning they too kept the LAW! Its unthinkable that a Jewish believer is not circumcized.

What do we learn here? Paul said whether we keep LAW like the Jews or do not like to keep LAW as the uncircumcized Gentiles, it is faith in Christ that justifies us not the LAW, meaning there is nothing wrong in keeping some LAWs, provided we know that Jesus is the justifier! Now why are these circumcized antithers accussing us of keeping the LAW when they too are doing the same? Definitely they will circumcize their babies!

So do we agree that we can keep the LAW or some laws but if we believe in Christ we will still be justified by faith? I am being questioned for tithing while they are getting circumcized and circumcizing their babies and not finding anything wrong with this law keeping! Who is more spiritual?

Osanobua! shocked cry

Your ignorance is really out of this world... You brought up the argument of circumcision as though you yourself made a conscious choice to be circumcized at birth.

So muslims that circumcize their children are also keeping the Laws of Moses abi?

Keeping the Law means obeying the entire 613 instructions that makes up the Law.

So wait, going by your logic, people are keeping the Law when they are circumcized? Sit there and keep displaying your ignorance...


Meanwhile... I'll also want to know why you wear mixed materials (cotton and wool) and shave your hair which are against the Law...

Clown... cheesy cheesy
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:28am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
I am telling you that antitithers have no conscience. Instead of accepting that the LAW is good (to be circumcized), you could see that the circumcision issue factored greatly as the key debate with the apostles whether to impose the LAW on Gentiles... tithing was not even mentioned here, but they will dodge the question. This antitither says it is medically advisable... OSANOBUA!! And he will still give his kids the mark of the LAW without thinking twice, when the apostle said it is not necessary for we Gentiles to be circumcized. shocked So who is keeping the LAW now... me or this antither who thinks he is working for God, but actually helping satan to spread lies about the LAW? My complaint is that I can find where Peter, Paul or Barnabas says Gentiles should not have to be circumcized as THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO keeping the LAW... but the antithing 666 american and russian bot sense of humor is to divert our attentions to it being good medically.

1 Timothy 1 v 8-11;

8We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
9 We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine


By the way...why aren't you tithing in the manner instructed by the Law?

Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

22 Thou shalt give the tithe of all the increase of thy seed, that cometh forth of the field year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God (in the place which he shall choose to cause his Name to dwell there) the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstborn of thy kine, and of thy sheep, that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it, because the place is far from thee, where the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name, when the Lord thy God shall bless thee,
25 Then shalt thou make it in money, and take the money in thine hand, and go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose.
26 And thou shalt bestow the money for whatsoever thine heart desireth: whether it be ox, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatsoever thine heart desireth: and shalt eat it there before the Lord thy God, and rejoice, both thou, and thine household
.
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates, shalt thou not forsake: for he hath neither part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt [e]bring forth all the tithes of thine increase of the same year, and lay it up within thy gates.
29 Then the Levite shall come, because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, and shall eat, and be filled, that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.


Let me chill and wait for your excuse...and explain to us how a Law meant for the Jews only should now be adopted by the gentiles after what happened in Acts 15
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:30am On Jun 13
Agrogbeide:


My Question Mr Dencotext; did the levites of old paid tithes and gave first fruits to other levites or levitical priests?

If you say believers are modern day levites and priests unto God, do you expect them as priests to pay tithe to other priests?



@ Dencotext, we can clearly see you are still dodging this question.

We are awaiting your answer...
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:37am On Jun 13
alBHAGDADI:

One Satanist says the reason why he advises circumcision is because it is medically advisable. But when we tell him that it is spiritually advisable to tithe, he kicks like a Satanist.

So much hypocrisy.

Your ignorance is really nauseating... Call me a Satanist from now till eternity will never make me one.

So why is it spiritually advisable to tithe in a manner God never instructed? Abi your Bible shows where God asked for money as tithe?

You are just a fraud... If you can claim the tree of knowledge of good and evil is Adam and Eve's tithe, even the Devil would be shocked at this lie of yours...
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:41am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
The High Priest of a New Covenant
8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2 and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.

3 Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” [a] 6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

Hello antitithers if Moses was commanded to build the tabernacle after the things in heaven, who is the high priest of the covenant who all the tithes belongs to? The Levites are shadows of Jesus... the Bible even complained that the Levites ministry is even inferior to Melchezedek, whom Abraham paid tithe to... now that JESUS the High Priest have come Himself, whose rank is in the order of Melchezedek... He deserves every form of our respect... this is the man that we should give everything to, whether tithing or offering because everything in the tabernacle of the old is patterned after the sacrifice of JESUS.

Apart from Matthew 25 v 31-46 where Jesus clearly mentioned how the taking care of the less privilege was tantamount to giving to Him, where else did Jesus advise how we can give to Him?

By loading the church accounts with monetary tithes and offerings?

Old wine in new wineskin... wehdone...
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:42am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
The Council at Jerusalem
15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

I AM SO SURPRISE THAT THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATED THAT SOME OF THE EARLY BELIEVERS WERE ACTUALLY PHARISEES . It only meant that they find nothing wrong in being Jewish, being circumcized, keeping the LAW of Moses (like paying tithes, a thing that JESUS mentioned the pharisees like doing... because they are the strickest sect of the LAW). Can you clearly see that the early Jewish believers have no problem with keeping the LAW themselves, but had to debate for days whether they should also enforce the LAW on the Gentiles?

Osanobua oooo! shocked angry kiss cry


CAN YOU ALSO SHOW US WHERE NON-JEWISH BELIEVERS KEPT THE LAW? ABI ARE YOU A JEWISH BELIEVER?

Osanobua oooo
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 5:51am On Jun 13
STILL ON THE MATTER OF MALE CIRCUMCISION.

Just to clear some pro-tithers ignorance (or rather, willful stupidity) where they claim male circumcision automatically means keeping the Law;

Circumcision is a religious or cultural ritual for many Jewish and Islamic families, as well as certain aboriginal tribes in Africa and Australia. Circumcision can also be a matter of family tradition, personal hygiene or preventive health care.

Sometimes there's a medical need for circumcision, such as when the foreskin is too tight to be pulled back (retracted) over the glans. In other cases, particularly in parts of Africa, circumcision is recommended for older boys or men to reduce the risk of certain sexually transmitted infections.

Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:

1. Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the joystick. However, boys with uncircumcised joysticks can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.

2. Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later.

3. Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.

4. Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised joystick can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the joystick.

5. Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the joystick is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/about/pac-20393550


@Dencotext... you can clearly see from the above that circumcision is performed for different reasons...and not because the Law instructed it should be done!

For example, you want to tell us the Aboriginal tribes in Australia practice circumcision because of an outdated Mosaic Law that never applied to them? Circumcision can also be done for cultural or health reasons. Infact, in recent times...circumcision is practiced because it is healthy.


Also, see how humans handle their poo for hygienic reasons to prevent diseases... please humor me and tell me they are doing that because they are obeying the Laws of Moses... cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by alBHAGDADI: 6:26am On Jun 13
Even when I didn't mention any name, a Satanist knew my post was directed at him because he's a Satanist. grin
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by alBHAGDADI: 6:34am On Jun 13
On one hand, they say people who practice circumcision aren't keeping the law of Moses. On the other hand, they slam tithers by saying they are keeping the law of Moses for paying tithe.

They forgot that both tithing and circumcision were done by Abraham before the law. Circumcision and tithing were issued by God himself. The practice of circumcision must have spread through out the world before the Israelites came to be, because Abraham had many concubines who had children for him. Recall he also circumcized children of the servants born in his house. That's how the practice must have spread to other parts of the world.

If anyone can admit that they practice circumcision for health issues, then they should accept that tithers practice tithing for spiritual issues. Saying they circumcize for health issues is the same as saying the Apostles who spoke against circumcision according to the law were foolish to have ignored health implications.

Their hypocrisy stinks grin
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 9:32am On Jun 13
alBHAGDADI:
Even when I didn't mention any name, a Satanist knew my post was directed at him because he's a Satanist. grin

Oh, you want to lie you have never called me a Satanist as you often do on this platform?


Or you are so slow you cannot even understand you were referring to me when you made this post?

alBHAGDADI:

One Satanist says the reason why he advises circumcision is because it is medically advisable. But when we tell him that it is spiritually advisable to tithe, he kicks like a Satanist.
So much hypocrisy.

alBHAGDADI, you are a shameless liar just as your father is. And you know who the Father of all lies are...so you're doing a great job telling lies here...


If truly I am a Satanist, let God take my life before the end of this month...

But if I am not a Satanist, may that same Satan continually afflict you for this false accusation you have made.

Say amen to this if you are not a coward...

I just wonder why someone is obsessed labeling other people as Satanists... there could be more than it meets the eye
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 9:37am On Jun 13
alBHAGDADI:


On one hand, they say people who practice circumcision aren't keeping the law of Moses. On the other hand, they slam tithers by saying they are keeping the law of Moses for paying tithe.

They forgot that both tithing and circumcision were done by Abraham before the law. Circumcision and tithing were issued by God himself. The practice of circumcision must have spread through out the world before the Israelites came to be, because Abraham had many concubines who had children for him. Recall he also circumcized children of the servants born in his house. That's how the practice must have spread to other parts of the world.

If anyone can admit that they practice circumcision for health issues, then they should accept that tithers practice tithing for spiritual issues. Saying they circumcize for health issues is the same as saying the Apostles who spoke against circumcision according to the law were foolish to have ignored health implications.

Their hypocrisy stinks grin

You have just shown the whole of nairaland how infinite your stupidity can be...

1) So people who also practise safe disposal of their human waste are also doing it because the keep the Laws of Moses abi?

2) People who were circumcized as babies had a choice to be circumcized abi?

What sort of deluded apes do we have roaming on this platform?


In that article on circumcision I pasted earlier... it stated circumcision was done for religious or cultural reasons. So the illiterate Aboriginal tribes in Australia that had no knowledge of the Mosaic Law were circumcising their offsprings to obey a Law they don't know anything about abi...


Chai...
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 9:46am On Jun 13
Agrogbeide:
Go to bed bro because as it is you definitely do not have a point.

alBHAGDADI, LifestyleTonight a brother of yours is on the hot seat and he needs help.

Don't mind those clowns...

in Dencotext's mind...he thought he asked clever questions and laid some traps...only to further expose his folly...

According to him... people (muslims and traditional worshippers) circumcise their children because they have to obey the Mosaic Law...

He's also asking questions about Jewish believers obeying the Law...whereas the guy is not even a Jew himself...

Until it sinks into their thick skulls that the Law was meant for the Jews and Judaizers alone... they'll keep running around in circles...

Perhaps they're reading Acts 15 and Galatians 2 v 11-16 with their blindfolds on...

Later...they'll tell us we are not committing murder because of one obsolete Mosaic Law...
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 9:50am On Jun 13
@ Dencotext, I can see you are viewing this thread... please do well to address this matter raised by agrogbeide and stop dodging it;

Agrogbeide:


My Question Mr Dencotext; did the levites of old paid tithes and gave first fruits to other levites or levitical priests?

If you say believers are modern day levites and priests unto God, do you expect them as priests to pay tithe to other priests?


Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:09am On Jun 13
OkCornel:



CAN YOU ALSO SHOW US WHERE NON-JEWISH BELIEVERS KEPT THE LAW? ABI ARE YOU A JEWISH BELIEVER?

Osanobua oooo
Well Paul himself was inconsistent for circumcizing Timothy in Acts 16:3 and refusing to circumcize Titus in Gal 2:3-5, Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek.

Come on my friend stop being silly, anybody giving circumcizing to themelves or to their babies is enforcing the LAW. Please stop this thrash talk about culture and medicine to placate your bloated ego. If you cannot admit you are keeping the LAW, if a big stone is blocking your eyes, for doing the very thing Peter and Paul forbid you to do, that is why he called you a satanist for contradicting bible all the times, why try to remove the small speck from your brother's eye, you bot and spammer? shocked
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:25am On Jun 13
OkCornel:
@ Dencotext, I can see you are viewing this thread... please do well to address this matter raised by agrogbeide and stop dodging it;

Bot please stop spamming my forum, even Sophia the robot will not do this. Your creator will not be proud of this lazy misdemeanor at remembering. I have answered this already in a post when I said Jesus is our high priest, whom we give to. Of course, Church is not building but people!

IN NAME OF JESUS I BIND THESE BOTS AND THEIR 666 AGENTS, I BIND THE SPIRIT BEHIND THESE ANTITIHERS SPAMMING THIS FORUM. I CAST YOU OUT OF THIS PLACE FOREVER. LET NATURE RESIST YOU IF TRY POSTING (SPAM) STUFFS IN THIS FORUM! IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME I DECREED! AMEN!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:41am On Jun 13
OkCornel:



@Dencotext... you can clearly see from the above that circumcision is performed for different reasons...and not because the Law instructed it should be done!

For example, you want to tell us the Aboriginal tribes in Australia practice circumcision because of an outdated Mosaic Law that never applied to them? Circumcision can also be done for cultural or health reasons. Infact, in recent times...circumcision is practiced because it is healthy.


Also, see how humans handle their poo for hygienic reasons to prevent diseases... please humor me and tell me they are doing that because they are obeying the Laws of Moses... cheesy cheesy cheesy
Ahahaha.... grin What is more 666 than when this antither is defeated in the word of God, they stopped quoting holy Bible but resort to using unverified internet sources. Please always back your claims from scriptures. We are not dull people!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:46am On Jun 13
OkCornel:


Don't mind those clowns...

in Dencotext's mind...he thought he asked clever questions and laid some traps...only to further expose his folly...

According to him... people (muslims and traditional worshippers) circumcise their children because they have to obey the Mosaic Law...

He's also asking questions about Jewish believers obeying the Law...whereas the guy is not even a Jew himself...

Until it sinks into their thick skulls that the Law was meant for the Jews and Judaizers alone... they'll keep running around in circles...

Perhaps they're reading Acts 15 and Galatians 2 v 11-16 with their blindfolds on...

Later...they'll tell us we are not committing murder because of one obsolete Mosaic Law...
Ahahaha have you accepted defeat by complaining? Please quote bible for accepting circumcision! shocked
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 10:54am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
Well Paul himself was inconsistent for circumcizing Timothy in Acts 16:3 and refusing to circumcize Titus in Gal 2:3-5, Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek.

Come on my friend stop being silly, anybody giving circumcizing to themelves or to their babies is enforcing the LAW. Please stop this thrash talk about culture and medicine to placate your bloated ego. If you cannot admit you are keeping the LAW, if a big stone is blocking your eyes, for doing the very thing Peter and Paul forbid you to do, that is why he called you a satanist for contradicting bible all the times, why try to remove the small speck from your brother's eye, you bot and spammer? shocked

I AM NOT KEEPING THE LAW BECAUSE I AM CIRCUMCISED...OR DON'T YOU GET IT?

Besides, if you were not blind, Timothy nor Titus were not forced to be circumcised!

DID IT ALSO OCCUR TO YOU THAT TIMOTHY HAD JEWISH ROOTS BUT TITUS DID NOT HAVE JEWISH ROOTS? HIS MOTHER WAS A JEW WHILE HIS FATHER WAS GREEK...



You can only keep the Law of Moses if you obey all the 613 instructions! Unless you want to tell us James was also inconsistent for saying this!

James 2 v 10-11;

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”[a] also said, “You shall not murder.”[b] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.





Perhaps you are even under a curse for insinuating you are keeping the Law... yet not tithing according to how the Law demands!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 10:57am On Jun 13
18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us. 20You, however, have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.…
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 11:00am On Jun 13
OkCornel:


I AM NOT KEEPING THE LAW BECAUSE I AM CIRCUMCISED...OR DON'T YOU GET IT?

Besides, if you were not blind, Timothy nor Titus were not forced to be circumcised!

DID IT ALSO OCCUR TO YOU THAT TIMOTHY HAD JEWISH ROOTS BUT TITUS DID NOT HAVE JEWISH ROOTS? HIS MOTHER WAS A JEW WHILE HIS FATHER WAS GREEK...



You can only keep the Law of Moses if you obey all the 613 instructions! Unless you want to tell us James was also inconsistent for saying this!

James 2 v 10-11;

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”[a] also said, “You shall not murder.”[b] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.





Perhaps you are even under a curse for insinuating you are keeping the Law... yet not tithing according to how the Law demands!
And that is my complaint here, you have no Jewish root but are circumcized?! shocked Who twisted scriptures? So are you yelling the LAW is good for medically reason?! And if you refused to accept your actions kept the LAW, why will I accept that I am keeping the LAW moreover not according to the law requirement as you claimed
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by OkCornel(m): 11:06am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
Well Paul himself was inconsistent for circumcizing Timothy in Acts 16:3 and refusing to circumcize Titus in Gal 2:3-5, Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek.

Come on my friend stop being silly, anybody giving circumcizing to themelves or to their babies is enforcing the LAW. Please stop this thrash talk about culture and medicine to placate your bloated ego. If you cannot admit you are keeping the LAW, if a big stone is blocking your eyes, for doing the very thing Peter and Paul forbid you to do, that is why he called you a satanist for contradicting bible all the times, why try to remove the small speck from your brother's eye, you bot and spammer? shocked

I AM NOT KEEPING THE LAW BECAUSE I AM CIRCUMCISED...OR DON'T YOU GET IT?

DID IT ALSO OCCUR TO YOU THAT TIMOTHY HAD JEWISH ROOTS BUT TITUS WAS A PURE GREEK? TIMOTHY'S MOTHER WAS A JEW WHILE HIS FATHER WAS GREEK...



You can only keep the Law of Moses if you obey all the 613 instructions! Unless you want to tell us James was also inconsistent for saying this!

James 2 v 10-11;

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”[a] also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.





[b]Perhaps you are even under a curse for insinuating you are keeping the Law... yet not tithing according to how the Law demands!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Dencotext: 11:09am On Jun 13
OkCornel:


I AM NOT KEEPING THE LAW BECAUSE I AM CIRCUMCISED...OR DON'T YOU GET IT?

DID IT ALSO OCCUR TO YOU THAT TIMOTHY HAD JEWISH ROOTS BUT TITUS WAS A PURE GREEK? TIMOTHY'S MOTHER WAS A JEW WHILE HIS FATHER WAS GREEK...



You can only keep the Law of Moses if you obey all the 613 instructions! Unless you want to tell us James was also inconsistent for saying this!

James 2 v 10-11;

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”[a] also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.





[b]Perhaps you are even under a curse for insinuating you are keeping the Law... yet not tithing according to how the Law demands!
And that is my complaint here, you have no Jewish root but are circumcized?! shocked Who twisted scriptures? So are you yelling the LAW is good for medically reasons only?! And if you refused to accept your actions kept the LAW, why will I accept that I am keeping the LAW moreover not according to the law requirement as you claimed!
Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Nobody: 11:26am On Jun 13
Dencotext:
And that is my complaint here, you have no Jewish root but are circumcized?! shocked Who twisted scriptures? So are you yelling the LAW is good for medically reasons only?! And if you refused to accept your actions kept the LAW, why will I accept that I am keeping the LAW moreover not according to the law requirement as you claimed!
Why keep jumping from pillar to post like your brother alBHAGDADI? Why are you not paying tithe according to the law? What of Satanists or idol worshipers that circumcised their male children are they keeping the law of Moses?

Don't get it twisted bro, you are in a confuse state.

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Re: The Significance of Tithing and Firstfruits for Believers by Nobody: 11:27am On Jun 13
alBHAGDADI:


I like the way you have been knocking those Satanists. grin

@bold

The anti-tithing and anti-law people claim we are under the curse of the law for paying tithe. They forget that they are circumcized and will circumcize their babies which places them under the curse of the law, according to their understanding. grin

When we tell them that our tithing precedes the law, their blindness won't allow then see what we mean.
why are you so concerned about tithing and first fruits, what about other laws can we also deliberate on them?

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