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I don't know whether it is a coincidence, four 26 year olds gurls are on my trail, in each case they have plainly made all the moves; they are not only working class and quite good looking; and they r thinking long commitment, so i am wondering is 26 the panic age for marraige this or am i just imagining things?

I am yet to post a single thing on NL on dagrin, even though i pride myself as one who knew dagrin from about the very first time he came on the air, which was on an a.m. show on M.I.T.V. here in lag; then he was quite very camera shy with the interview, i was getting bored until they played the video of his track "rap anthem" i knew this guy had so much to offer.

Now i am a very critical lover of music in the direction of creativity and content, dagrin had both, i had tried philosophising about the way dagrin lived based on the kind of songs he sang, i think that's why some people have immaturely said he is in hell, but then it would be wrong for us to sweep under the carpet that some of his word are entertaining in a negative way and must not be condoned.

The guy who posted earlier about negative and positive enlightenement is quite right in his thought; living on the edge has a way of unleashing one's developed creativity, however the result of such a life is the judge of the worthiness of the path you thread.

God alone knows everything; so a fool is he who judges another, for we dont know all the circumstances only God knows!

I believe it is time for young people to think about the kind of choices they make; to decide using thier reasoning with utter sincerity.

Reat in peace Da [b]G[/b]reatest [b]R[/b]apper [b]I[/b]n[b] N[/b]igeria

I am yet to post a single thing on NL on dagrin, even though i pride myself as one who knew dagrin from about the very first time he came on the air, which was on an a.m. show on M.I.T.V. here in lag; then he was quite very camera shy with the interview, i was getting bored until they played the video of his track "rap anthem" i knew this guy had so much to offer.

Now i am a very critical lover of music in the direction of creativity and content, dagrin had both, i had tried philosophising about the way dagrin lived based on the kind of songs he sang, i think that's why some people have immaturely said he is in hell, but then it would be wrong for us to sweep under the carpet that some of his word are entertaining in a negative way and must not be condoned.

The guy who posted earlier about negative and positive enlightenement is quite right in his thought; living on the edge has a way of unleashing one's developed creativity, however the result of such a life is the judge of the worthiness of the path you thread.

God alone knows everything; so a fool is he who judges another, for we dont know all the circumstances only God knows!

I believe it is time for young people to think about the kind of choices they make; to decide using thier reasoning with utter sincerity.

Reat in peace Da [b]G[/b]reatest [b]R[/b]apper [b]I[/b]n[b] N[/b]igeria

if amodu qualified us to the world cup as his ghanian and ivorian counterpart did then kudos to him; we made it to the mundial not qualified, there is a big difference.
Okay we made it to the world cup, but can his team capable of showing any sign of being competitive, face it he dont have not team !

Chukwudi is not trying to syit up a catholic-pentecostal battle; the point he was trying to make is that celibacy is not the cause of sexual misconduct on the part of a priest since married pastors to fall too as well. It is not a must to be a priest, every seminarian knows this before they entered so there is no excuse.

Anyway, that a priest is involved in sexual misconduct in Germany has spread the whole world, does not mean that that is what all priset are doing too.

The world just like this scandals but overlook their own. the works of good and devout priest don't hit the news; i am not holding brief for the priest abusing kids it is always appalling.

Really i think all this boils down whether we believe that Human life is sacred; the problem of with the concept of something being sacred is because is somewhat always linked with the Divine, who as free beings we may choose to dispose our intellects to coming to logical conclusion of a higher Existence of Another outside of ourselves.

Let us not negate sound reasoning because of some instances like pregnacy caused by rape; statistically i can bet my life savings that abortions from rape is a millionth to abortion caried out because the willing couple are not ready to have a baby!

@tudor
I like logical reasoning;

Intimacy is not an accicent like the pope falling and breaking a bone and going for some corrective surgery;
it is willed by persons, who may ar may not know the conseqeuence of thier actions, which may or may or may not lead to the generation of another human being, with the very right to life  though it is still defenceless by self or by the immediate laws of he land.

there is no absolutely no need to slight ourselves here!

Lady's i mean;
@ Tudor going for a bypass does not take a human life;
Lady did not quote the bible or state she was catholic (though she is) in her argument so there is no use bring in the pope here!

It is impossible to counter a sound argument

honeric01:
I couldn't make out anything from what Tudor was saying or were you able to make out anything from it?

honeric01:

Lady's argument is a technical knockout to pple who have convived themselves or are convincing themselves that are abortion is smae as removing a cancerous tumour.
I belive in logical reasoning and i thonk this what NLanders should subscribe to than just insulting themselves, that's so immature!

need to contact you my email: rooowland@yahoo.com

To STAND in love is to retain what is dear to you, stuff like a rational principles, values etc  no matter how little it may seem compared to perfection;

when we fall in love, what happens is that we throw everything away, everything that made us, cos we feel we dont want to loose or miss this new feeling in the object of our desire, which from experience we loose involuntarity and painfully at the end because we did not preserve that which we believed in.

NL is changing my words

Sure non-virgins are not necessarily promiscous, i concur, afterall it takes a minute or more to get the hymen broken for a gurl or get a vaginal ejaculation for a guy

yep i get ur point; think we need learn to STAND in love!

Don't look for my shoulder when he goes to get more experience, cos i will carry cutlass

michelin89:
Not all non virgins lost their virginity carelessly. We all love once or twice in our lives.

tryin to understand u?

Virginity is trully a mind thing; i wish every young person would not settle for less, how i wish,

Very funny thread; obviously all does gurls who say they rather stay single than marry a Virgin man are simply one of the following:

1.They are justifying their errors of the past and are sad to know that some people are stiill going strong, male or female.
2. Are ignorant of the thrill of having a wholesome view of sex and love, which shouldn't be selfish. IT IS SO SO SAD!

A true virgin, is not the fellow who had not opportunities, or sees sex as dirty or lacks a normal drive; rather it is he or she who has understand that sex is not an end in itself but a means to an end, which is love, a love that will make their very lives more human and less animalistic. Gosh Chastity is sweeter than sex, the orgasms are just too lasting, relaxing you to levels no ejaculations could ever give!

Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Hebrews 10:29
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

These passages are simply self-explanatory; there is no mention of sin unto death, rather it is said if they "fall away" meaning leave thw Faith they once savoured coming back to it would be impossible, just like what became of Lucifer, who fell from a high level of grace.

Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. There is a background to this quote; The Pharisees openly ascribed a miraculous work of Jesus to the Devil; The saving power of God they rejescted against their own
reason.

Christ spoke here of all manner of sin, meaning sin are in categories.
Obviously since the the Holy Spirit is the very principle of sanctification any sin against Him, which basically IS about refuting his saving power can not be forgiven since the soul has fallen into the state where he can not even access the mercy of God

It is very risky to complicate plain matters or do guesswork at spiritual things that is beyond ones understanding; cos it makes one to henceforth interprete every part of scripture from that viewpoint.

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Mary’s relevance to Christaindom proceeds from the fact of that she was highly favoured by God by saving her from sin at the very moment of her conception because of the role she would play in the role she would play:
1. In the salvific mission of Jesus, from His conception at Bethlehem where she said her Yes to God at the expense of being stoned to death as an adulterer as they almost did to Mary Magdalene.
2. In the beginning of His public Ministry when she saved the couple from gross embarrassment who invited her over for their wedding at Cana; she applied her Faith in the Incarnate Word of God, to obtain the water-to-wine miracle, despite Jesus’ reluctance to perform it; and she has not stopped asking her Son, whom she beholds in heaven, the requests of those who invites her to their lives like the couple at cane did.
Note: Jesus did not refuse her request because the couple did not come to Him directly (this makes mince meat of the argument that criticizes the optional practice asking for Mary’s prayers, did not James tell us the prayer of the righteous availeth much? Huh!)

3. Finally at the foot of the Cross where she would stand sorrowfully but in submission of the Lamb of God who was but A high Priest and Sin offering to God for the remission of the guilt every man and woman under its destructive hold; for her solidarity Jesus would her give her as mother to His disciple (to nurture in the faith those who sought Him, like John did) and to the disciple as Mother (to reverence and to cherish the same way He did while He lived in the flesh on earth) when He said “Woman behold thy son, and to the disciple son behold thy mother”
I could write over 100 pages on this topic cos I once asked this question too but researched very objectively now I am a better believer of Jesus as the incarnate Word of God, you may wanna read this introductory piece….

True Mary, the mother of Jesus is a vessel, but what kinda vessel?
Consider the Person of Jesus, He is the eternal living and infinitely Holy God incarnate: True God and True Man. His Flesh and bones came solely from those of Mary since He was conceived without the agency of man as we all were; Now sin (beyond being an act of disobedience to God commands, an act of ingratitude and foolish pride to the generous and loving God who made man and women free and with love and to partake in His Trinitarian family) makes a soul impure before the all Holy God, it also corrupts not only the mind and heart and weakens the will, but even defiles the body, of course it is not debatable that sin is the reason why our body is subject to illness and will eventually fall lifeless in death to decay and become dust again.
Do you think that the God who prescribed the quality of the Ark of the Covenant to Moses, that is must be made of the best timber and of pure gold, because it would house the stone tablets wherein the ten commandments were written, also wafers of the manna and Aaron's priestly rod would be kept, would Himself reside and take up the flesh and blood of a woman even tainted by sin; The lamb must be without defect as I recall in the Old Testament, Jesus the Lamb of God, must necessarily be born of a pure and sinless human stock, else He would automatically be subject to sin like the rest of humanity!

Mary of course had free will like every one of us but she chose to use it in the service of God, as she responded Angel Gabriel ''behold the Handmaid of the Lord, be it done to me according to thy word" she was not forced or overpowered by God to conceive Him (Here God baffles me, asking for permission to use a body He himself has preserved from every taint of sin because He save fallen humanity from it and with it) she chose God to her life for she would stood the risk of being accused of adultery getting pregnant before living with Joseph by the gruesome stoning like they almost meted out to Mary Magdalene in the Gospels; Mary chose to do God’s bidding even on the face of loosing her husband and her life! She believed the words of God from the angel Gabriel that she would “conceive and bear a son whom she was to name Jesus” that was why later on visiting her elderly kinswoman Elizabeth (pregnant with John, who was the forerunner of Jesus) she (Elizabeth) under the unction of the Holy Spirit would cry out “Blessed are you who believed what was said of you would come to pass” ….Mary is a woman of Faith, unlike the childless Zachariah who doubted and was struck temporarily dumb by the angel who brought the message of John’s birth…(will the rest sometime later)

Hello Lady welcome back i have really missed your beautiful and informed posts, i have read and followed you in the threads where you posts; could sense your heartfelt emotions of trying to respond to pple like bobbylaff and Davdlyan;i know it is quite tiring when people refuse to be rational in their arguments; I suspected you fled NL for a lack of quality dialogue and you just confirmed it.
I would like for us to be in commuinication with you besides NL since you're hardly here; I LEFT MY CONTACT on the last thread you posted about the Holy Father having a broken wrist: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-297979.0.html

HELLO LADY I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT YOU; MY CONTACT IS rooowland@yahoo.com

I think Amodu the luckiest coach i have ever seen, somegthing just get working for him despite his quality of coaching which is quite far from intelligent, two qualifications, a bronze medal at Angola, now a 15th position for SE in FIFA ranking; i know his team will always be wack but his luck may get us to our first quarter final at the mundial

I asked a self-acclaimed deeper life zealous pastor like 7 years ago and up till now he never returned just as NLanders have veiewd this thread but none refused to reply, where are all the nairaland pastors, are they on thre run too?
Sin umto death obviously points to the fact that Sin is in two classes; if you read on you find out John also speaks about praying for one who has fallen into the sin that DOES NOT lead to death and forbids us tp pray for one who has fallen into the Sin that LEADS to death see ref below:
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
This actually one of the scriptural support for the classification of sin as Mortal or Venial, Heaven, Hell (a state, where a soul can not help itself and cant be helped anyone else becuase it has sin that leads to death) and purgatory (a state, where a soul that has sin that does not lead to death, cant help itself but can be helped by other people's prayers)in the Roman Catholic teaching.

@k17
Mary's dead and unconscious
your assertion shows you don't know that death is not unconsciousness and unconsciousness is not death; what i suspect you call death is the separation of the body from the immortal soul that animates it. When you die you will still know things, feel emotions that are nonsensual like regrets and joy regarding how death meets you (may yours and mine be joy).

that our prayers "to" her are thus worthless
well i would say much as your earlier posts suggests that you may not even be christain, so o have to know where you really stand

I believe Humans are the crown of God's creation; Humans are the only creatures God created for Himself directly the rest of nature God made for man's (womans's) use, domination and a means through which humans can use to come into some certain consciousness of their invisible Maker who is mirrored somewhat in the gnat as wel as the elephant; do you not think that seeking to be one with nature is tantamonut of classing the rational soul of humanity to the lower souls of animals and plants including the inanimate nature of all other matter?

does draping the body with garments (that are made from from nature, directly or indirectly) cut off from nature: oneness with nature must be from the standpoint of hunans as being superior and lord not equals; some tribes like Romans worshipped natural elements like the Sun just as the yoruba worship iron and ibos thunder, this is plain idolatary, which is worshipping creation not the creator.

Shouldn't the human nature seek to go upwards to its Creator (merging itself with Divinty) than dwelling with creations that are lower than its rational state?

Inasmuch as nature reflects the sublime beauty of its creator it must be regarded approriately and used correctly. The good thing i like about the nudist stand on their lifestyle is that they do regard the body in a far more honourable than those who cover it in public only to abuse it within their closets (in self seeking sexual gratification as it exists in extra-marital sex, masturbation) who use it a means to seduce their fellow humans etc; the point of deviation is that they do not regard it as something sacred, though this dimension comes as a result of faith, which allows a truer perception of the human body as higher than other physical forms of nature, since God Himself finds is fitting enough to dwell in.

From personal experience i find sleeping nude (in my room underlocks) especailly when the weather is not too cold as having positive physiological effects as it proves relaxing; but the obstacle i have with social nudity is that it seeks to go against the human instinct to cover (and preserve) itself; nudists always speak of body conscoiusness which comes naturally with age as something to be stopped in kids and corrected in adults, they claim is a result of social conditioning, surely a kid would be conditioned to nudism by nudist uprbringing also, since humans are social beings who are essentially preys of the society they find themselves.

DO YOU THINK THE DRIVE OF WANTING NOT TO BE SEEN NAKED, BY JUST ANYBODY IN ABOUT ANY PLACE, AS IT HAPPENED TO ME AS WITH MOST PEOPLE IS UNNATURAL?

Nudism is a relative thing really; there have been Natives of southern American (centuries)who go topless as we have in africa without shame or trying to catch the fun nudists speak about or even to be one with nature; for these fellows it as natural as putting on clothes, tthere is actually no particular reason for nudity though not total as we have with conventional nudists.

@poster You spoke about being one with nature as the motive behind nudism; my question is even if your motive is satiated why exactly do you want to feel one with nature?

Very insightful thread maybe to me cos i was once intrigued by pure nudism as an extension of my belief of the purity and beauty of the human body; however on second thoughts and research i have to see it is wholly impractical at least; there is no way a fellow who is still struggling to keep his zip up or her skirt on her waist to see the naked body without lusting after it! Even avowed pure nudissts get hard ons for the men in their nude beaches albeit involuntarily.

Aside this obvious point, inasmuch as the human body is beautiful, it is also sacred, simply because it houses the soul it which has the capacity to be residence of the Holy Spirit, the Third person of the Holy Trinity, unlike the souls of beast that roam the wild. It must be percieved with the reverence proper to the Divine like a Bible, Conscrated Altar, Tarbancle etc (like we have them in Catholic Church).

Purity is a thing of the mind, it can not really be achieved by pulling off; i suspect nudists whose sensitivity to the human body as sexually provocative is a consequence of what naturally happens when you have seen things too frequently it looses it fancy (Gynaecologists will affirm this). Nudists are unconsciously seeking what every human soul seeks: freedom from tension, in this case sex. Ironically even the sex maniac seeks this freedom from sexual tension but erronouesly does so by indulging in the ACT with just everyone,almost everytime with every position, little did he (she) know that true sexual freedom comes by the possesion of the true FACTS about what is sex actually is, its beauty, purpose and limitations, sadly our generation seem not to have inkling (now i digress!)

Since purity goes beyond insensitivity to a nude human body especially of the opposite gender; infact this sensitivity is God-given and must not be regarded as a weakness or pervasion of the human will. Christain Purity is not about having dimiinished libidos (that is why Origen the prominent early christian scholar was never canonised by the RCC cos the felllow eronouesly castrated himself) but having controlled of the sexual instincts which is indispensable for procreation and expression of love within the booundaries of love characterised by life-long commitment, i mean marital love.

I believe God was being practical when just after the fall of our first parents in the graden He got them covering for their naedness; covering the body is to be the path for fallen humanity to manage his loss of pure vision; even after the redemption by Jesus Christ clothes would still be the case, as Jesus garbed Himself, so much so that the helm of His clothes healed a woman with a flow of blood and the roman soldiers casts lots for it at the foot of the cross.
PURITY RESIDES IN THE INFORMED MIND NOT THE ENUMBED ONE.

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Am happy that you reading a bible at least!