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RichyBlacK:
See this mugu! Learn to interpret court rulings! Your people, Bush and his henchmen, tried to deny the prisoners in Gitmo of their fundamental rights to a fair hearing, and they've failed! Obama will be president (I know you're unhappy about this reality), and close that place down!

Cretin, you have claimed that the legality of Gitmo ''hinges'' on recourse to judicial review. Recourse having been so granted, what then is this swine yapping about?

When one Israeli dies from a bicycle accident near a town where a rocket was fired, CNN and the rest of the Western media beam the news 24/7. However, when 100 Palestinians are killed by one of Israel's one-tonne bombs, it hardly makes the news.

Is it on planet imbecilia,which you reside, that 100 Palestinians were killed by one of Israel's one tonne bombs? Hyperbole is the refuge of ignoramuses.

RichyBlacK:
The illegality of Guantanamo goes beyond the physical existence of a such a hideous place, but hinges on the Bush-Cheney cabal's view that the prisoners have no rights and no legal recourse to the US courts. [/b]Fortunately, and most appropriately, the US Supreme court has ruled that such a view is illegal! Those prisoners [b]must be allowed to seek justice and free themselves from the lying tentacles of the worst administration mankind has ever seen!

See this charlatan. If the legality of Gitmo hinges on whether detainees have recourse to judicial review then as from June 2008,henceforth, accusations of illegality would be pointless as recourse has been granted.

These nutjobs never cease to amaze me. So Christianity is to blame for the atrocities of their ideological soulmates like Mao Zedong and Stalin.

RichyBlacK:
What is your point? My condemnation of Stalin's gulag wasn't strong enough? Can't you just condemn the gulag of today (Guantanamo) instead of telling us about the many gulags of yesteryear?

Please, go and read up on history before you can be taken seriously and quit copying and pasting articles off the net.

[quote author=sleek_p link=topic=207488.msg3263689#msg3263689 date=1230078844]Because more innocent are detained at  Awka Central police station makes Guantanamo Bay right. Walahi!!!I know am probably going to piss you off here by telling you the truth. (cry yourself to sleep tonight). Am sorry but if this is how you reason then please don't have children. Just stay in the world and enjoy yourself, do what ever you want to do  children no.[/quote]Listen,you ignorant soul. Any debate about politics should not be stripped of a sense of perspective.

If you fail to see that mixing up Gitmo with the term ''gulag'' is easily rebutted by putting Gitmo in its proper perspective - whether by comparison to Naija police stations or their ilk - then you my friend are a congenital idiot and should be sterilised, with euthanisation strongly considered.

congoshine:
Lai wo we  ;DOl'boy,your vocab na die !! 
However,inasmuch as I appreciate Bush's point of view,you'll agree with me he was probably overwhelmed by 911 & took some wrong decisions. We can't justify illegality.

A measure is illegal only in so far as it has been determined to be in breach of law. Tell me what law Gitmo breaches: domestic law or international law?

The issue of Gitmo is complex and should not lend to simplistic characterisations.

RichyBlacK:
What's your point? To refresh our memories of Stalin's perceived overreaches?

Granted, Stalin had a dark side, but that is not the focus of the thread. This thread is about the George W. Bush, the epitome of incompetence in the present age.

You crudely deploy hyperbole and euphemisms with scant regard for reality. Stalin had a dark side? Stalin atrocities match, even surpass by some historical accounts, Hitler's.

To refer to Guantanamo as a gulag is crass. Nothing illustrates much of the intellectual bankruptcy of Bush critiques as the absurd mutilation of history and use of hyperbole.

Gitmo has been running for 7 years and not even Obama has fashioned any clear cut plans on how to deal with its inmates and future captives. Back in WWII, FDR's solution was to detain every single person of Japanese origin, this is currently the best of all possible evils.

The Hitch is working himself into a frenzy over Obama's invitation to Rick ''The purpose driven life'' Warren to say prayers at the inauguration.

It is a fact that Rick Warren, pastor of the Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif., was present at a meeting of the Aspen Institute not long ago and was asked by Lynda Resnick—she of the pomegranate-juice dynasty—if a Jew like herself could expect to be admitted to paradise. Warren publicly told her no. What choice did he have? His own theology says that only those who accept Jesus can hope to be saved.

A president may by all means use his office to gain re-election, to shore up his existing base, or to attract a new one. But the day of his inauguration is not one of the days on which he should be doing that. It is an event that belongs principally to the voters and to their descendants, who are called to see that a long tradition of peaceful transition is cheerfully upheld, even in those years when the outcome is disputed. I would myself say that it doesn't need a clerical invocation at all, since, to borrow Lincoln's observation about Gettysburg, it has already been consecrated. But if we must have an officiating priest, let it be some dignified old hypocrite with no factional allegiance and not a tree-shaking huckster and publicity seeker who believes that millions of his fellow citizens are hellbound because they do not meet his own low and vulgar standards.

The bolded part highlights the author's lack of appreciation of the reality that if Obama is a Christian, chances are that he subscribes to Warren's views on salvation. If not, he is a hypocrite and is no Christian.

http://www.slate.com/id/2207148/

I believe Guniea gained independence as a result of a referendum, hence, it was the people's choice. So much for vox populi, vox Dei.

Tornadoz:
@davidylan
RichyBlack wrote, ''Have ever condemned the gulag called Guantanamo''? Your reply is I know this is a new concept to you but you don't win debates by displaying misanthropy,  calling people names, screaming your head off etc.
This  only turns you into a chipmunk,  eek!! eek!!.

The more apt response should have been that any reference of Guantanamo Bay as a ''gulag'' smacks of historical illiteracy, moral obtuseness and an obscenely egregious dimunition of the sufferings of the real Gulag inmates.

At least 10 million people were guests of the Soviet gulags which saw the deaths of over a million people; many of them women and children. Such is the crassness of modern discourse that  idiotic hyperboles are deployed in criticising perceived overreaches by the Bush administration.

As we post, there are more innocent people detained at Awka Central police station than in Guantanamo Bay.

KarmaMod:
Are you implying that Cockney is better than Naija accent?

Not really, but Naija accent should never be mixed with Cockney.

Talking of accents, don't know why but nothing turns me on as much as a woman with Scottish accent. If I can find a Naija girl with very good Scottish accent, pure bliss!

LadyT:
Whatever your getting me it better be good!!!!!!!!!


I hate present shopping very stressful

The Lamborghini coffee maker. . .  . you can trust me to get the best things for you.  

[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=210578.msg3258876#msg3258876 date=1229997066]glad that you are aware there are pre wrapped gift   that's what am saying. you've got it, thanks. make sure you don't return it like i did.
i had to unwrap and look for the receipt to return the gifts. that felt so good though [/quote]I once mooted the idea of a blender as xmas gift, very practical, and was given the impression I must be the dumbest lover on the planet.  

[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=210578.msg3258867#msg3258867 date=1229996736]right, christmas is a time to share remember that.

i hope you are done wrapping gift for your babe 4Play. if that's too much work, gift card should be fine. don't come empty [/quote]There are ways to share that do not involve whipping out your debit/credit card. Wrapping gifts? That's rocket science to me, there are pre-wrapped gifts.

KarmaMod:
innit?!

''Innit'' is bad enough coming from Brits, stomach churning when said with Naija accent.

[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=210578.msg3258831#msg3258831 date=1229995573]not really, we feel being loved and love in return.[/quote]Yes, love as expressed by shopping.

Heard about pulling a baby girl's nipples so she will grow big breasts as an adult? Not something I made up, heard this in Enugu a few years ago. . . .sounds like a pedo's dream excuse.

Christmas gifts. . . .God, I hate them. Women will love it because it's just another excuse for shopping.

The ''phonetics'' Naija girls here dey blow is sufficient to make you want to look elsewhere.

Cristalz:
Hey Arses. . .its nearly showtime.

You guys have GOT to get a draw. . .Liverpool MUST drop points today. Of course y'all must drop too

I want 3 points from Arsenal. Arsenal have little chance of winning the title so I don't mind them getting 3 points.

@Dayo

Did you see this beautiful comment by the Napoli President responding to rumors about potential transfers to England

"If they want to go to England then in the end they're going to go, but they need to understand this: the English live badly, eat badly and their women do not wash their Instruments. To them, a bidet is a mystery."

[url]http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/86/italy/2008/12/16/1014181/napoli-president-english-women-don't-wash[/url]

Full time. With Fiorentina winning, Roma will find themselves 9 points from Fiorentina, who will be in 4th assuming Milan wins tonight.

Echoes of Milan last season going into their 2nd round fixture against Arsenal. If Roma doesn't win the UCL, they should be looking at the EUFA Cup next season, which will be catastrophic for the club's precarious financial situation. I don't know whether it's because of Sensi's death but the club seems to be drifting to catastrophe.

Roma is staging a comeback, 5 minutes to go. The way things are, they will be lucky to make the top 4. Serie A keeps 'reshuffling' its top 4 every season

MrCrackles:

To be honest City havnt got a decent squad
And instead of spending the whole lot of the £35mills on Robinho, i would have bought 3-4 decent squad players!
He needs to forget about all the money and the big signings, and do what he did at Blackburn
He is no doubt a good manager, so i have a feeling he will survive the sack!

Compared to Blackburn, they've got a very good squad, yet, they are currently in 18th place.

Sven had largely the same squad last season and was never this bad. I think Hughes has little say over some of the major signings. I don't think he had anything to do with the signing of Jo(£18m) and Robinho(£32m) but given the squad he has got, City have no business being in 18th place.

By the standards Ince has been judged, bear in mind Ince had little money to spend and lost key players to injury and transfer, Hughes is long overdue for a sack.

Can anyone explain to me why Ince has been sacked while Mark Hughes retains his job? It's obvious people were wishing Ince to fail before he even got the job.

Human Rights Watch has long lost its credibility and is one of the world's foremost 'dhimmi' organisations.

KarmaMod:
For once we agree.

You gotta admit though Kate killed Leo in Titanic

I can't even remember the details of that movie, it's been at least 10 years and I only saw it once.

Does anyone remember House Party? It was alrite. . .Kid n Play

davidylan:
Chris Rock's movie - I think i love my wife
was very good.

Chris Rock is a good stand up comedian but his movies are wack.

KarmaMod:

4Play do you think the same of the movie Pearl Harbor and all that nonsense

Never saw that. There was a brief period - between 16 and 17 -when I used to enjoy romantic movies. Now, it's just comedy(Scary Movie1, loved it so much that I once watched it in French without subtitles on Canal+),horror(Texas Chainsaw Massacre) and the occasional action movie(Black Hawk Down).

One thing I've always been ''against'' is African-American movies, can't stand them.

[quote author=HR.hotness link=topic=206172.msg3251018#msg3251018 date=1229822649]thats precisely d reason i wldnt be moved to tears! i save my tears for more realistic tales  [/quote]It's a realistic tale because people did actually die . It didn't remotely move me to tears but I thought it was a very good plot line.

You need to stop watching your re-runs of Rambo and Arnie's Commando, don't end up like KarmaMod.

[quote author=HR.hotness link=topic=206172.msg3251008#msg3251008 date=1229822207]and how is that?

pray tell how the fact that i really detest over hyped, overly dramatic, fantasy cheese-fests is going too far[/quote]It's a well written movie about a love affair in a disaster that had historical basis. Yes, I agree they laid on the cheese a bit too much - particularly the end - but it will move any person that is in touch with their emotion.

tope2000:
Missed you to jare

[quote author=HR.hotness link=topic=206172.msg3250992#msg3250992 date=1229821280]since when has a persons ownership of a heart been determined by their love for titanic?  [/quote]But saying it's a movie you loath, that's going too far.