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@Dayo

It should be-Adebayor 24 years ?

I'm sure OJ Simpson knelt down to propose to his wife before bumping her off.Most women love empty gestures!

doyin13:
This is a blatant ethical violation but I would not have minded if many of our previous leaders had
consigned themselves to this kind of thievery.

Better this than a standing order at the treasury that a certain amount of money be commited to a foreign account of yours.

This 'anti-Obasanjo' bandwagon is a bit irritating really. It seems to be the latest fad.

You speak as if you know for a fact that OBJ consigned himself to this kind of thievery.Is theft of this kind better really better?

The problem is that it can create long-standing structural problems for the economy that will take decades,long after the miscreant leader is gone, to heal. Having a direct debit in favor of a looting leader stops as soon as the leader is gone.

Eziachi:
He is also a hypocrite. Do you remember how he kept quiet when Bush and his gangs were rubbishing a good military career of John Kerry during their election. And he use to claim that Kerry was his friend. With friends like that!!!!!

Here is what actually happened:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) rushed to John F. Kerry's defense Thursday, condemning a new ad claiming the Democratic presidential nominee lied about his military record and betrayed his Vietnam comrades by protesting the war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42740-2004Aug5.html

The "problem" with McCain is that he is doesn't behave like your typical politician.He is prepared to go against his party when he thinks they have done wrong or more impressively,admit he doesn't know something or that he was wrong on a particular issue.

This gives his opponents-who are all knowing and never wrong- the ammunition to attack him.Often in politics,the best liars come out on top.

dayokanu:
That is the most entertaining game of all time. WAOH Can't beleive this I need to watch it again

Are you not ashamed?Bayern struggled to beat 10 man Getafe,a Spanish side in the lower half of the Spanish league table.

I hope Giggs picks up a knock so that Fergie can't pick him.The Welsh wizard has outlived his usefulness.

I would rather have Hargo as right-back,Brown and Rio in the centre.In midfield-Carrick,Scholes and Anderson-with a 3 man attack of Tevez,Ronaldo and Rooney.

Expecting a fantastic game on Sunday.Where the hell is Loyika with his "sit back and admire"?

As for media collusion in the West,that is frankly nonsense.The media in the West goes out of its way to hold their Govt to account.Headlines are dominated by reams of stories about what is wrong with the country.Can you honestly claim that newspapers in England are seeking not to "fall out with the Govt in power"?

There are inherent biases in the media,in the West,its mainly a leftist bias.The main reason why the media rarely touches on Darfur is that very little of what is going on there can be blamed on the US. The emphasis is on Iraq and Palestine,not because these conflicts are the most bloody,but because of US involvement.

The worst conflict since the end of WWII was the civil war in DRC Congo(3.7m dead since 1991) but that gets less headlines than Palestine(200,000 dead since 1922).We all know of Haditha,Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay,how many non-Nigerians have ever heard of Odi or Zaki Ibiam where far more people died? There are even a lot of Nigerians that know more about Abu Ghraib than Odi.

Ultimately,the West's commendable capacity for self-introspection means that human rights violation by Westerners gets more media attention than similar acts in the developing world.In a situation where anti-Americanism is the modern fashion,any actual or perceived wrongdoing by the US gets blown out of proportion by left-wing media organisations such as Vanity Fair(which has a long history of voodoo journalism).

As we speak,tens of thousands of Falun Gong members are in Chinese "re-education" camps where thousands of them have perished for no other reason than having a religion without Govt permission.Does anybody care as long as we can't blame the US?

@Imani

Let me illustrate what I mean by M'uslim groupthink in this context. You have 2 Christians-Afam and 4 Play-who have diametrically opposite views on issues regarding "Christian" nations like the US and its policies in the Middle-East.

There is no groupthink in this context because although we share the same faith,we do not all see the need to "gang up" on the side of the "Christians" in their dealings with "non-Christians".

However,and this is the cornerstone of my point,had it been M'uslims,every single one of them will trudge into this thread to offer the same boilerplate rant against the non-M'uslims.There is little or no diversity of opinion within their faith on such issues.The emphasis is on "unity" at the expense of self-introspection.

If the issue concerns the Arabs,the decibel levels gets even higher with each one of them,especially the Africans,seeking to be more pro-Arab than the Arabs.The underlying reason for this is that theirs' is a faith which is merely a vehicle for Arab cultural imperialism.

Because the faith is essentially a vehicle for Arab cultural imperialism,it leads to,apart from groupthink on Arab geo-political issues,inter alia;adoption of Arab names,language,cultural practices and dressing amongst people who aren't Arabs.

Whenever an issue paints Arabs in a bad light-for instance slavery-their MO is to either avoid it or come out and declare total support for the Arabs.That one is pro-Arab is not in itself odd(I am very pro-US myself),what is absurd is that almost every single of them is.Like I noted earlier,once the poster is M'uslim,you can automatically tell what his opinion will be on an issue concerning Arabs.That is where the groupthink manifests itself.

Uche2nna:
At the risk of generalisation, let me say that most nigerians know on which side the bread is buttered. If education were made to be as attractive as it is in the States , believe me, many nigerians would die to get educated.


There is a lot of stories behind most nigerians illiteracy ---ranging from "My parents could not afford to send me to school" to " I don't want to become an un/underemployed graduate.
And if u have ever lived in Nigeria or still living in Nigeria, u would agree that these are genuine reasons.

I don't think that is the issue in the States.

Actually,if we grew up in a society where things were easier,we would be more complacent.That is human nature.Nigerians abroad are the way they are because they are immigrants,immigrants tend to be more ambitious and educated than your average person.

There used to be a time education was free in Nigeria,only a tiny minority grabbed the opportunity.Are you sure all our brothers in the North want to go to school but are merely prevented by the lack of money?

We talk of "gangster" culture amongst African-Americans.Don't you remember all those knuckle-headed cultists back home? These were people in university already.

anyway, its time to stop misusing my employers resources and go home.

Oya,go home,don't let the Jewish owners of your company hear what you have to say.Its going to be hard finding work with Arab Contractors or Saudi Aramco.

I dey ruin wetin? See person wey dey yab Catholics over Anambra issue. Na una provoke Girl22.

Lets face reality,if the average Nigerian is brought over to the US,we won't look so good.By the time our rural poor,whether Fulani herdsmen or farmers in Ado-Ekiti and Abakiliki,come over,white and African-Americans go run leave the country for us.

The last time we did something similar(slavery),it produced the current crop of people we spend time laughing at.

Na because say na mainly from Southern graduates most Nigerian immigrants are produced,una dey yab them.

A Jew hater in denial,that will be a first. Your first response to me instead of sticking with the topic was,"your friends the Jews". My response was,look at this "Arab slave" which prompted our repartee.Referring to "the Jews" doesn't make sense for everybody knows that Jewish opinion on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is notoriously divided.

I know what you are going to post on a thread like this merely from knowing your religion.Whether its you,MC Usman,Olabowale,e.t.c;shockingly predictable.Contrast that to the diversity demonstrated on this thread by people of the same faith.

You are not defending your religion,you are defending a race.Defending my religion also means that I'm prepared to wholeheartedly to say something is wrong,whether its the inquisition or slavery.More importantly,even if I don't,I can always rely on the rich diversity of opinion in the Christian world to offer a different opinion.

Face it,if this thread was about Darfur,you won't post unless someone says something bad about the Arabs or M'uslims.Once its about the Middle-East,cue the reflexive attempt to proffer boilerplate opinion in condemnation of Israel as if under the payroll of some Arab sheik.

You people who knock African-Americans for their perceived inadequacies are being silly.

People will be claiming that black Americans are not as hardworking or interested in education as Nigerians,what do you expect.The Nigerians are generally immigrants who represent a particular demographic in Nigeria.The average Nigerian is no more hardworking or interested in education than the average African-American.

Most Nigerians barely qualified from primary school,never mind going to University.Simply comparing African-Americans to what effectively constitutes Nigeria's elite demographic is dumb.

@Oyb

If Anambra did ban condoms,that will be an example of Christianity and Christians being irrational.Same goes for I'slam and whenever some M'uslim state does something silly.

Both religions suffer from the 'extremism' malaise but the problem with M'uslims,as demonstrated by threads such as this,is that groupthink makes it impossible to deal with such issues.If everyone is thinking alike,supporting Arabs unanimously like zombies,it makes it virtually impossible to curtail extremism and it allows it to fester.

Immediately I saw your name,I already knew your perspective on the issue without having to actually read your post.That strikes me as cultish-that someone's opinion on issues affecting a particular racial group seems to be determined,not by his gray matter,however flawed the outcome,but by his faith.

Just like tribalism,such groupthink undermines co-existence.You have issues with Jews yet you probably have never been to the Arab world,rarely deal with Jews and do not derive any benefit from any Arab nation.You have issues with Jews because they have issues with Arabs.Problem is,the Arabs don't give a toss about you.

@Oyb

The problem is not people having foreign names but the cultural slavery that results in people uniformly adopting Arabized names.Like I noted,many Christians don't have Anglicized names but its virtually impossible to find a M'uslim who doesn't have an Arabized name.

Everything is conducted in zombie-like manner,from dressing to even political analysis.RichyBlack,Afam and I have diverse opinions on a range of issues affecting Christian nations.However,if you call Olabowale or MC Usman here,they will all be chanting the same mantra like members of a brainwashed cult.

That is why I said your opinion is irrelevant,you have outsourced your thinking to Arabs for nothing in return.

PS:Afam doesn't have an English name. @Afam,na lie I talk?

Afam:
Like I-man, 4 Play and so many other IDs you have been using.
Abeg, do not pollute this thread with your very narrow minded views and blind support for the US.

@Oyb

You see am?His name na Afam and he is a Christian.He,like Richyblack,demonstrates the variety of opinion you can get on issues touching "Christian" nations like the US.Its not this rubbish groupthink you have towards Arabs,like zombies.

Maybe they rejected you at the Saudi embassy because British nationals don't need visa to go to the US.

At least,those who 'suck up to the West' can point to some benefits from the West,what do you get for being an abd? Its normal for many Christians,not just in Nigeria,not to have have Anglicized names.

Face it,una own na cultural slavery.Everything from dressing to even the language you pray in smacks of mental slavery.

EloSela:
It must also be noted that the western media never tend to gloss over the ills in their society like the Nigerians do.

On the BBC, there is a whole section related to poverty in the UK and on CNN America, plenty of stories relating to those Americans who are clinging to the lower rung of society. This is one sign that the plights of such people are being noted and talked about, with a view to drastic reforms being implemented. The current Shannon Mathew’s story in the UK is an example.

Check any major western newspaper's front page and most of the content on domestic issues is resoundingly negative.That is how the media operates.It brings up the cliche,"dog bites man isn't news,man bites dog is".

Its only in dictatorial countries like N.Korea or Burma that the local media mainly focuses on the good news or deliberately goes out of their way to find 'positive' news.

@oyb

Do you find it hard to believe that you can be a Christian without an English name? Sorry for you,those Arabs don dupe una into thinking you have to adopt names like theirs to make it to paradise.

The groupthinking reminds me of Fela's "Zombie". Your masters in Arabia decide what you can think of geo-political issues and you then toe the same line.Even the Arabs won't give you citizenship if you wanted,so what do you benefit from being their minion?

@oyb

If you had an ability to reason,you will know I mean having local names instead of adopting Arabized names out of cultural slavery.Are you saying you don't have one? Tell me now that you don't bear a name that wasn't in existence in Yorubaland until the Fulani Jihadists made their way down south.

Diversity of opinion is welcome.What is troubling is when an entire people outsource their thinking to Arabs,especially,with no perceivable benefit in return.

@Seun

I think his core idea is that taxation improves accountability.If people are made to pay taxes,they will be more keen to rise up to their responsibility to hold Govt to account.

The Govt in turn will be more responsive to the citizens' needs since,unlike with oil revenue,a lot of the money coming into Govt coffers will come from the pockets of citizens.

It sounds good in theory but unworkable in practice.Many Nigerians don't pay taxes,not because we are not required to pay,but because the system is so dysfunctional that the tax-collection system has broken down.Tax avoidance is the norm ,thus,the idea is unworkable.

Eziachi:
Toshmann, my brother, this Mcain war philosophy you're talking about that he had, that the other two doesn't have, does that includes staying in Iraq for hundred years as he told the Americans and the world recently? He is also a hypocrite. Do you remember how he kept quiet when Bush and his gangs were rubbishing a good military career of John Kerry during their election. And he use to claim that Kerry was his friend. With friends like that!!!!!

Lets not imbibe every hogwash spewed by the Obama campaign as fact.McCain said the US should be in Iraq for 100 years provided that they are not fighting a la US troop presence in post-war Germany,Japan and South Korea.

"The good military career" of Kerry was rubbished by his fellow military veterans,besides,McCain didn't keep quiet.He condemned it in the strongest terms possible.

You made an ignorant and misleading comment which I have corrected.I didn't see the need for a link for if one believes that the US was involved in a coup plot,a statement of denial from the US won't tell us anything.

Like I once told Denex,its pointless seeking your opinion on issues affecting the Arabs.All I have to do is obtain the opinion of Arabs,I can bet that your viewpoint will be the same as that of the Arabs-quintessential mental slavery.

There is no independence of thought or diversity of opinion,just groupthink(whatever the Arabs want).

PS:Unlike you,I have 100% Igbo names.No institutionalized cultural enslavement unlike some .

Jens Lehmann has delivered a withering verdict on Arsenal's Champions League quarter-final exit at the hands of Liverpool and also hit out at manager Arsène Wenger, criticising the Frenchman for consigning him to the bench.

"For me personally, it is a tragedy, particularly since I did not have a chance to prevent it," said Lehmann of Arsenal's 4-2 defeat at Anfield on Tuesday. "I wanted to win the Champions League and thought I had a good chance of playing. The fact that I won't now get that chance makes me furious. I have had such thoughts ever since the coach took me out of the team following the 0-0 against Milan."

Article continues
In the interview with German magazine Kicker, Lehmann also questioned the credentials of his rival for a starting spot, Manuel Almunia. "When I am not playing even though the other keeper is not exactly playing well, then it's difficult," fumed Lehmann. "I still haven't been given my place back and I'm being kept out by someone who is playing his first season at a big club. To be sitting on the bench behind somebody who only started to play when he was 30 is not funny. I am very angry."

Meanwhile, Mathieu Flamini is expected to be out for three weeks after injuring an ankle during the defeat to Liverpool.

[url]http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2272388,00.html[/url]

Na you be the archetypal Abd,complete with Arab or Arabized name to boot.

Here is a link from your Arab masters:

The US on Tuesday denied the coup plot allegations.
"There is no accuracy to that story. I've checked and there is no truth to it," Sean McCormack, the US state department spokesman, said.

A statement from the office of Mohammad Dahlan, the former head of the Palestinian national security council, called the Vantiy Fair article "highly inaccurate and misleading".

"Accordingly there was (and remains) no secret plan to carry out a coup against Hamas," said the statement.
"Although the US offered its financial support for the plan to reform the PA's [Palestinian Authority's] security forces (by offering assistance for non-lethal equipment as requested by the PA), financial support was never received."


No official US stamps or seals appear on the document.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/935DF029-9ECA-4133-BCD3-7DC26FB80E4A.htm

In typical Al-Jazeera style,they left it at the bottom of the page.

I doubt you know what 'refute' means.The story has been denied several times.All of a sudden,its the duty of those querying a claim to adduce proof.

Look at this Arab slave telling me about "your friends the Jews".

Extra-ordinary rendition,which has been going on for decades,first came out in many mainstream outlets from its earliest inception.The BBC mentioned it as far back as 2002.This is entirely different from discussing the rubbish that is dredged up from all sorts of leftist outlets on the web.9 months now and you are still waiting.

Just like they were stammering to call the atrocities of Rwanda a genocide, see the heavy stammering to call this current financial wahala a recession. Dem go try to use plenty plenty words to confuse common man.

@RichyBlack

Don't blame your ignorance on the media.A recession is technically defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.The 4th quarter of 2007(Oct-Dec) showed modest positive growth.We are still in April and have only completed 1 quarter(Jan-March),until the figures are out for the 1st and 2nd quarters(Jan-June)showing negative growth for the two,the media will be right to 'stammer' in calling it a recession.

Coming out and wholeheartedly claiming a recession is definitely underway would amount to 'voodoo' journalism. The kind you get with the likes of Vanity Fair and Afam's 'chain mails'.

oyb:
Re: Us Coup Backfires, But Most Media Outlets Unwilling To Investigate, Cover Story

did you perhaps miss the topic?
rather than blathering about the existence of an 'agenda' do you at least agree that bush and co are once again engaged in ' regime change' ?

has vanity fair refuted their story? you can have any agenda you want, interpret ecvents in any way tyou want, but as long as your info is based on verifiable facts -

I think you are lost in the maelstrom of your own prejudice. We don't accept as facts the substance of the report.A story doesn't become factual merely because it appeared in Vanity Fair.

Now,Oyb instantly believes an anti-American and anti-Israel piece,tell me something new.I can get you many reports out of right-wing news outlets that paint an entirely different picture but until a news report is corroborated by many across the 'mainstream' media,it should be taken with a pinch of salt.

There is a reason you hear a lot of frenzied squealing by many concerning the media's portrayal of Nigeria-they simply don't get it.They represent a demographic that is far removed from the average Nigerian.

Take this forum for instance,the mere fact that we have access to the internet puts us in a 'privileged' minority.Even according to Govt figures,most Nigerians don't have access to electricity,never mind the internet.

The squealing you get here comes from a privileged few who cannot appreciate what it means to survive on peasant farming,hawking goods or being a petty trader.Go into the street and ask a roadside hawker or wheel barrow pusher whether the western media,to the extent he or she has access to it,is placing too much emphasis on the negative and the answer will be a resounding no.

The vast majority of Nigerians have no voice.Those who complain here are juxtaposing their living standards with the living standards of the average Nigerian.We need to demonstrate a greater degree of perceptiveness to realize that our experiences are hardly representative of the acute poverty most Nigerians are experiencing with little or no hope of escape.

Tonim:
Seun, I have lived in the west for over 10 years and the pictures of africa that I see on CNN 99% of the time
are pictures of places like ajegunle and mushin in Lagos.

Even when President Clinton was in Abuja, the footage of abuja shown on tv were the outskirts
that looks really crappy, again similar to ajegunle. CNN intentionally shows crappy pictures of
africa to make us look backward, uncivilized and grossly underdeveloped.

I wish you were here to see things for yourself.

There is a reason you have "lived in the West for over 10 years",you come from a grossly underdeveloped continent.What do you want CNN to show?Tinapia?

As we speak,3.7m have died in DRC Congo,150000 in Darfur,1m in South Sudan,e.t.c.I constantly hear people from these places complaining that they don't have enough media coverage compared to Palestinians and Iraqis.

Its interesting that while we have our brothers and sisters dying in various places,someone,from the comfort of the West wants to see less of our dying and suffering.I wonder what your opinion will be if you or members of your family were living in Bredjing refugee camp.

oyb:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/02/8046/
http://archives.gophercentral.com/Viewpoint_US_Coup_Backfires.html

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza_documents200804

its not quite a chain letter. . .

The above don't have an agenda? That will be like linking Washington Times,and a couple other blogs like Michelle Malkin's and effectively telling you they all "speak truth to power". Vanity Fair and Commondreams? You must be kidding

@rikkyjen

I have been hearing nothing but good things about her chest.Her own dey confirmed.Her other moniker na WAMCO(West African Milk Co).

I be Breast Man myself so there are a million things I could do with a pair of Babylons.

Make you take your tally and join the queue. Na first come,first served.