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PoliticsRe: Lagos Politics And Religion by 4Play(m): 10:53pm On Apr 13, 2008
Wasn't Maj Gen Oluleye ex-Military Gov of Lagos State?

Which state is he actually from,Oluleye that is.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 10:30pm On Apr 13, 2008
Check out this Magnum Opus from Kit:
Mc Omo:
JACKAL . . .JACKASS . . .CHACAL . . .EL CHAC . . .LE CHACAL . . .CHAC .F@CKEVER, WHERE ARE You huh tongue grin

what did I tell u yesterday ?. . .I purposely ame online to chat with you bwoy yesterday and I told u that u guys were in for it, u RANTED AND CUSSED . . .what thunk u now ? M.You.M.You tongue grin


KITSTRADAMUS predicted that Manure would fumble when it matters most and what do u have now huh tongue

if only AW had fielded his best side against Liverfool embarassed

as it stands now. . . .its 40/35/25 for MNAURE/CHELSKI/ARSENAL TO WIN THE EPL . . . cool

THE LEAGUE IS ON .
. . . grin

who thunk y'all would be MIA today huh and for those if u who came all u could put up were cameo appearances tongue

I trust . . .maybe only TKB 419 would be realistic when he comes online to tell us what he smells . . . . grin grin

imagine Justkunmi saying they would win the league 2day . . .ol boy, go collect your change from your babalawo . . .ODESHI tongue grin

WHERE IS THAT AMERICANA RIKKYJEN ? undecided tongue my fave Manc . . .even Fashola sef gast use Lexotan sleep, egbon Babs e ma binu tongue

this aint looking goo for u mancs . . . .but as usual your Holy Trinity could not score a 3rd to save your lives, but rather they were busy defending with the last ounce of their blood so Boro might not score a 3rd . . .f@ck u Tuncay . . . angry

anyways, at this stage a draw by the scum team has just woken up everyone from its slumber . . . .WITHOUT VIDA AND RIO . . .MANURE IS DONE FOR !!!

na Pique and O'sh@t wan play central defence against us. . . .I fit bet say Adebayor go score brace tongue

where are these bloody mancs huh
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 10:25pm On Apr 13, 2008
Mc Omo:
I maintain WE WILL WIN THE LEAGUE cool

whoever said it is over needs to see his shrink tongue

no one expected we will have this patch so terribly . . . .now we will pass it on to MANURE tongue grin
@Rikky

Exactly what I told him.Kit is indeed a prophet,the opposite of anything he predicts happens! grin He lampooned Juior Agogo,and the boy scored.

When they were holding Vogts responsible,little did they know that the source of our misfortune was Kit who was jinxing any team he supports.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 10:08pm On Apr 13, 2008
Unrelated. . . . .I know,I know.But symptomatic of Kit.Just before Nigeria played Ghana.
Mc Omo:
I wonder how pessimistic Nigerians would always continue to be undecided

no wonder we NEVER LIVE TO OUR TRUE POTENTIALS AS INDIVIDUALS AND AS A NATION embarassed

what Strike force do the Ghanians boast of that can do the damage ? Junior Agogo a conference league player in England grin or Muntari without his shots a proper Sule tongue or a midfield that is lacking an Appiah that would have propelled them to greater heights ? undecided

at the last World Cup what was their undoing ? THEIR LACK OF CREATIVITY IN ATTACK ! have they corrected it ? NOOO ! so what are u all on about ? undecided

back to us . . . .have we ever achieved anything the easy way ? NEVER !

did we not have it rough before we won all major competitions we have ? WHY DO NIGERIANS HAVE SHORT MEMORY ? shocked

FUNNY ENOUGH, MOST NIGERIANS HITHERTO CLAIMED THEY HAD BECOME DISPASSIONATE ABOUT THE SUPER EAGLES, NOW THEY DERIVE MORE JOY COMING ON NLAND TO DISCUSS THE SUPER FOWLS grin NA WAAAAA OOOOO ! grin

NIGERIA WILL WIN THIS HANDS DOWN . . .I TIP TAIYE TAIWO TO SCORE AGAIN, AND I BELIEVE UCHE KALU OR NSOFOR WILL BE AMONGST THE GOALSCORERS

NIGERIA WILL WIN THIS . . . .WANNA BET UR LEFT HAND ? cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 10:01pm On Apr 13, 2008
Mc Omo:
God bless Clattenburg . . . .our fave Gunner ref, at least una get Mike Riley tongue

Adebayor . . . . I maintain will win the Golden boot at the end of the season, the mere fact that he is playing next to MR COOL IN FRONT OF GOAL- EDUARDO has even propelled him to be more composed than ever, little wonder when we spoke last he promised me from now on HE WILL BE SCORING AT LEAST BRACES grin grin
MC Omo speaks with Adebayor? huh grin

The way he praises Ade,you will think he was born as a Siamese-conjoined twin to Ade.However,instead of having,like joined heads or stomachs.Kit was probably born with his tongue glued or joined to Ade's butt!! grin grin

Too much ass kissing of Ade by Dr Kit. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 9:48pm On Apr 13, 2008
You just have to love this.El Classico from El Omo grin grin

Mc Omo:
he has scored more than Adebayor, so ? has he won the golden boot ? did he not turn up last season against Drogba and at the end of the day get knocked out of the race ? undecided

what assurance do u have that because he has scored 16 goals he would outscore Adebayor ? dude . . .u must be dreaming if u think he will outscore Sei Emmanuel Adebayor and please quote me anytime anyday KITAUN SAID IT . . . ADEBAYOR WILL OUTSCORE C. RONALDO tongue cool
In case you were wondering,no,he wasn't speaking of Rooney or Tevez.He was speaking of the Special One-Cristiano Ronaldo! grin And did he not say we can quote him anytime anyday? grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 9:39pm On Apr 13, 2008
This is unrelated to United. . . .but its symptomatic of MC Omo's ailment. grin grin

Mc Omo:
[i]I promise to dance naked if Nigeria loses to CIV cool

AND I MEAN IT tongue[/i]cool
@ toba 1909
You mean u don't know I-man,
Yep, he digs for anything negative about Arsenal and comes to gloat here about it,
He claims to be a seer and said that Arsenal will be 3rd in the league this season(An improvement on 4th position of last season),
Well, we can't claim the predictions are false, let's wait till May before he's acclaimed as a prophet
grin grin That was a HNIC classic. Still waiting for him to acclaim me a prophet. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 9:13pm On Apr 13, 2008
rikkyjen:
@ Jackal grin grin grin grin

McOmo must have drank superblue Omo when he was typing that drivel of His grin grin grin
I can remember that particular night,he seemed to be possessed by a retarded ghost high on chronic. grin grin

What about this from the irrepressible Prof Kit,just a couple of days ago. grin grin
Mc Omo:
@Debosky
I don't get it . . . . undecided

how can this season be over with all there is to play for ? huh

if we win Manscum 2moro which I bet we would win, what do u think would happen ? undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 9:05pm On Apr 13, 2008
This is what Loyika told a Chelsea fan 2 months ago: grin grin
4)Nateevs grin grin

Your season is over. DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!
This one sounded like it was typed after 2 bottles of Star:
It was 5 now its 3, soon it will be 0 cheesy cheesy YOU ALL ARE CLOWNS!! grin How is that any different than what we have been hearing all season; CHANGE THE FLIPPING RECORD2 months down the line and we are still on the same boat. ARSENAL WILL CRUMBLE, IT WAS 5 NOW ITS 3, UNITED ARE ON THE RISE!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 9:04pm On Apr 13, 2008
MC Omo was on another level of silliness.He had no peers in producing horse hockey.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official: Nairaland's Gaynners Tomfoolery (all Quoatations)! by 4Play(m): 8:55pm On Apr 13, 2008
I posted this earlier on the Gaynners thread:10 of the best deranged rants from Loyika who suddenly became "busy" as the "Treble" beckoned. grin grin

Quote from: loyika on March 20, 2008, 05:12 PM
1)Rikky Ricardo Huh
Make no mistake about it, my belief in Arsenal winning the league is as strong as ever.

2)We don't have a chance against Liverpool in the UCL Huh Thats funny, i thought the same was said, when we were to go to the San Siro Huh Or is it me Huh8) GOONER 89

3)@ J K

We go dey here dey see who go get the last laugh Grin Grin

This is heading to the wire, and Arsenal will be Prem leader come May Cool YOU CAN TAKE THAT OR GO JUMP OFF THE RIVER!! Grin

4)Nateevs Grin Grin

Your season is over. DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!

5)You Scumtwats should let everyone chase you as champions, not be here screaming, IT WAS 5 NOW ITS 3 Like a fake Faze record Huh Is that what Champions are meant to be talking about Huh

6)KEEP SITTING AND KEEP ADMIRING!! (Keep wrestling as well) Grin Grin

Wrestling the title away from Wenger Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Chacal, you could take a part-time job as a stand up comic on Def Jam Comedy Central you know Grin

7)It was 5 now its 3, soon it will be 0 Cheesy Cheesy YOU ALL ARE CLOWNS!! Grin How is that any different than what we have been hearing all season; CHANGE THE FLIPPING RECORD2 months down the line and we are still on the same boat. ARSENAL WILL CRUMBLE, IT WAS 5 NOW ITS 3, UNITED ARE ON THE RISE!!

coolCome end of season, ARSENAL WILL BE PREM CHAMPIONS (Ya'll can suck a Scum lollipop for all we care Grin

9)Once again i say; ARSENAL WILL WIN THE LEAGUE!! I didn't stutter.

10)SIT BACK AND ADMIRE!! You are still chasing us, as you have been all through the season. So what are you on about Huh, come May and you will still be behind us, GET USED TO IT!! Cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (Old) by 4Play(m): 8:21pm On Apr 13, 2008
Imani:
Have been playing the "tearjacker" number from Oasis all evening called "Stop crying your heart out", how beffiting as Oasis are Muppets United fans grin
Hmm. . . .Liam and Noel are City fans.Told you,you know nothing about Manchester. tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: Us Coup Backfires, But Most Media Outlets Unwilling To Investigate, Cover Story by 4Play(m): 8:17pm On Apr 13, 2008
@Imani

With regards to the 4th point:We have seen the greatest increase in foreign aid under this administration since the time of JFK. What else do we want?

We are allowed duty free imports into the US under AGOA which the current administration expanded.The US is responsible for at least 50% of humanitarian aid to Africa.There are literally millions of Africans today whose lives have been saved by the US.

The key problem with our(Africans) perception of the outside world is that it depends entirely on non-Africans.Everything we know about the outside world depends on the foreign media.

Hence,if the foreign media seeks to examine the US solely through the prism of its Middle-East policies and totally ignore its policies in Africa,Africans,who have never had a friendlier US administration,imbibe all the petty hate towards the Bush administration which hate is based on regions that have nothing to do with us-the Middle-East.I don't think people in the Middle-East are sitting on their backside handwringing over US policy in Liberia for instance.

Because the foreign media shapes our perception,such perceptions are incompatible with our reality as Africans.For instance,most Africans love the Clinton Administration despite its remarkably worse policies towards Africa by comparison with the Bush era.Clinton slashed our aid budget and never pushed for debt cancellation(African nations were spending $11 in debt repayment for every $1 received in foreign aid in the 90s).

If you ask Africans what Clinton did better for Africa compared to Bush,they can't tell you.Our perception is shaped,not by our reality as Africans,but by the leftist-dominated media organizations which serve as our window to the outside world.
PoliticsRe: America Vs The World: Why? by 4Play(m): 7:55pm On Apr 13, 2008
Which foreign policy are you talking of?Is it the same one under which the US has tripled the aid budget for Africa and helped bring about debt cancellation?Is it the same one that allows African countries to export many products into America duty free?

Maybe you prefer foreign policy under which Africa is laden with debt.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (Old) by 4Play(m): 6:43pm On Apr 13, 2008
10 of the best deranged rants from Loyika who suddenly became "busy" as the "Treble" beckoned. grin grin

loyika:
1)Rikky Ricardo huh
Make no mistake about it, my belief in Arsenal winning the league is as strong as ever.

2)We don't have a chance against Liverpool in the UCL Huh Thats funny, i thought the same was said, when we were to go to the San Siro Huh Or is it me Huh8) GOONER 89

3)@ J K

We go dey here dey see who go get the last laugh Grin Grin

This is heading to the wire, and Arsenal will be Prem leader come May Cool YOU CAN TAKE THAT OR GO JUMP OFF THE RIVER!! Grin

4)Nateevs Grin Grin

Your season is over. DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!

5)You Scumtwats should let everyone chase you as champions, not be here screaming, IT WAS 5 NOW ITS 3 Like a fake Faze record Huh Is that what Champions are meant to be talking about Huh

6)KEEP SITTING AND KEEP ADMIRING!! (Keep wrestling as well) Grin Grin

Wrestling the title away from Wenger Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Chacal, you could take a part-time job as a stand up comic on Def Jam Comedy Central you know Grin

7)It was 5 now its 3, soon it will be 0 Cheesy Cheesy YOU ALL ARE CLOWNS!! Grin How is that any different than what we have been hearing all season; CHANGE THE FLIPPING RECORD2 months down the line and we are still on the same boat. ARSENAL WILL CRUMBLE, IT WAS 5 NOW ITS 3, UNITED ARE ON THE RISE!!

coolCome end of season, ARSENAL WILL BE PREM CHAMPIONS (Ya'll can suck a Scum lollipop for all we care Grin

9)Once again i say; ARSENAL WILL WIN THE LEAGUE!! I didn't stutter.

10)SIT BACK AND ADMIRE!! You are still chasing us, as you have been all through the season. So what are you on about Huh, come May and you will still be behind us, GET USED TO IT!! Cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (Old) by 4Play(m): 6:13pm On Apr 13, 2008
Not so fast. . . . .Arsenal are still very much in the title race! grin Its only a 9 points gap,anything can still happen. grin

Does anyone remember when Arsenal fans were confident they would lift the EPL? All the permutations about our games against them and West Ham and how they would be in a position to take advantage.

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for them.Naah. . . . .they should sit back and admire the real big teams go for the trophies this season.

PS:Arsenal are only 5 points ahead of Liverpool.They should try and hold on to to that 3rd place. grin
BusinessRe: Zenith Bank Begins Operation In London by 4Play(m): 2:46am On Apr 13, 2008
Has anyone read this UK article:Can you trust First Bank of Nigeria?

Nigerian bank may not be the first to spring to mind when looking for a safe and profitable home for your money, but UK savers should be advised to take note.

The UK subsidiary of First Bank of Nigeria has been offering a suite of table-topping savings accounts since July of last year and – following pressure from This is Money – has pledged to make them more attractive by adding rate guarantees.

However savers may still be deterred by the association with a nation whose banking and political systems have been widely deemed corrupt.

First Bank's rates compare favourably to the best in the industry but, performance aside, would you be wise to deposit your money with it?

Although the subsidiary, FBN Bank, has been established in the UK for five years, it mainly managed money for businesses and wealthy individuals until last July. That's when it launched an online savings arm FirstSave, offering an easy-access savings account and fixed-rate bond accounts, in an effort to break into the UK savings market.
PoliticsRe: Capital Punishment by 4Play(m): 2:08am On Apr 13, 2008
doyin13:
@4play

That is if the aim of punishment is a simply to deter aspiriing criminals.

I have come to realise that symbolism, entertainment of the macabre kind, retribution, all come into play with the death penalty.
The spectators shall not be denied and the victims must draw retributive comfort.
I don't think most people would agree that "symbolism,macabre entertainment and retribution" should be determining factors as to whether a human being's life should be terminated.We might as well reinstate the Roman Empire's gladiator events.

The only worthy pertinent factor from the aforementioned is "retribution" but one has to wonder whether a termination of life is a harder punishment to bear for a criminal than the prospect of spending a lifetime behind bars.

One important point is also lost;the criminal justice system is not a 100% efficient.Innocent people,especially in a place like Nigeria,are regularly at the receiving end of undeserved punishment.Capital punishment applies an irreversible punishment in a system notorious for its glaring errors.
PoliticsRe: Paying Taxes In Nigeria, Can It Improve The Economy? by 4Play(m): 1:58am On Apr 13, 2008
sugabelly:
I am not a liar. Taxation will do Nigeria no good. And besides, why shouldn't we compare ourselves to Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia was built on the same oil money that Nigeria has. Granted their population is smaller, and they pump more, but with any considerable amount of oil money, Nigeria should be able to develop itself to a reasonable level (which is what is happening slowly by the way - go take a look at Abuja) without need for taxation.

Plus, I seriously doubt that there is any such term as "story-maker-upper". I think it's called "telling tales".
You don't get it,we can't be like Saudi Arabia because the circumstances are entirely different.Its like comparing a family of 4 making 11m Naira per annum to a family of 15 making 2m Naira.

Besides,I don't get this idea that Saudi Arabia is a model we want to copy.This country has a lower living standard than the average developed nation and is almost wholly dependent on the price of oil.A decade ago,per capita income was around $6k and unemployment topped 30%.

We have to broaden our source of revenue and any suggestion that the solution to our problem lies in remaining drunk on oil,exposed to the vicissitudes of oil prices,is simply obtuse.

In broadening our revenue base,its important that we have an efficient tax system with emphasis on low tax rates and an expansion of our tax payer's base.
PoliticsRe: Capital Punishment by 4Play(m): 12:52am On Apr 13, 2008
A measure is only as good as its usefulness.A punishment that fails to deter or prevent crime is clearly not working.

The US has the highest murder rate in the Western world despite retaining the death penalty.Nigeria's armed robbery rate hasn't reduced one jot since we introduced capital punishment for armed robbers.

Surely,the execution of innocents should move us to see that this draconian punishment is beyond the pale for any civilized people.
PoliticsRe: Fear Of Social Unrest Due To Rising Cost Of Rice by 4Play(op): 12:42am On Apr 13, 2008
Export restrictions exist because farmers in those Asian countries find it more profitable to export.Those countries,especially Communist Vietnam,retain some measure of price control over the domestic market.

By restricting exports,they curtail supply to the world market in much the same way as OPEC does with oil.Another frustrating thing is that the main policy tool through which export restriction is carried out is via export tariffs.This simply adds to cost.

I think its time for the world to seriously examine the impact of GM crops.For too long,they have allowed the environ[b]mentalists[/b] to scare us away from exploiting the potential benefits of these crops.Studies have shown that many GM crops are even safer than "organic" crops.
PoliticsRe: Fear Of Social Unrest Due To Rising Cost Of Rice by 4Play(op): 12:28am On Apr 13, 2008
doyin13:
But why is there such alarm over the escalating price of rice. . . . . . .especially from the likes of you 4PLAY

From your libertarian standpoint, I would assume people would simply resort to substitutes.

I wonder how pinoys in Manilla would adjust to the delectable tastes of GARRI. grin
The market has been 'rigged'. The agricultural sector is probably the most regulated,after the defence industry.For instance,in reaction to rice shortages,the likes of Vietnam and Philippines placed export restrictions.That makes things worse as it curtails supply leading to even more inflation.

I'm worried because Africa is uniquely vulnerable to food price inflation.Being poor,a greater proportion of household's budgets goes towards buying food.Any such inflation will simply feed into the whole economy.

The best measures will working towards the liberalisation of the agricultural sector whether its scrapping the CAP or the various trade barriers that currently exist.
Foreign AffairsRe: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive by 4Play(m): 12:20am On Apr 13, 2008
If output was growing at a significant pace,wouldn't that slow down food price inflation in Nigeria? Instead,the feedback has been that inflation in Nigeria,like other parts of Africa,has been galloping at a high pace.

It also depends on which particular agricultural products underlie these Govt figures.If its simply export oriented products like cocoa,cashew,cotton,e.t.c,then the average Nigerian won't feel the effects when they go shopping for their food.

Its either output growth hasn't been that significant or much of the growth is export oriented.It could also be a combination of the two.
Foreign AffairsRe: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive by 4Play(m): 12:11am On Apr 13, 2008
Escalating prices has been the trend for close to a decade.The key growth factors has been rising demand in India and China.
PoliticsRe: Fear Of Social Unrest Due To Rising Cost Of Rice by 4Play(op): 12:08am On Apr 13, 2008
By all indications,its going to get worse.Could hit 20,000 by this time next year.
Foreign AffairsRe: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive by 4Play(m): 12:04am On Apr 13, 2008
Nigerian statistics are not to be trusted.However,export figures have been strong,showing growing output.Of course,it will take more than 7% annual growth in output to solve our domestic needs.
Foreign AffairsRe: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive by 4Play(m): 11:57pm On Apr 12, 2008
Escalating food prices are mainly a result of economic development in China and India.You can add the negative effects of climate change and the bio-ethanol industry.

The situation will get even more dire in the coming years.I started a thread earlier about ithttps://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=125330.msg2126319#msg2126319.I wonder what plans Nigeria has to deal with this issue.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by 4Play(m): 11:48pm On Apr 12, 2008
I saw Guillem Balague on SkySports claiming that Barca are happy they got Utd instead of Liverpool and Chelski.The reason:we play attacking football and they will have more spaces to exploit.They think we are more vulnerable in our defence.

This is proof those Catalan idiots are illiterates.Even Steve Wonder,by looking at the league,will realize that we have the strongest defence in the Prem.

Did they not see the game against Roma in Rome?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (Old) by 4Play(m): 10:39pm On Apr 11, 2008
@Imani

Shouldn't you be supporting Leyton Orient or Dagenham & Redbridge? grin

Been supporting the Mancs since '94.Heard you started supporting Arsenal because of Kanu,now that he is gone,you should follow Doyin to Pompey,at least they are going to win a trophy. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: No Longer An Arsenal Fan. Going To Manchester United by 4Play(m): 4:50pm On Apr 11, 2008
2012-Arsenal wins the Sharon Paints Trophy.

2013-Arsenal wins Nkalagu Cements Trophy
SportsRe: Barcelona Vs Man. Utd. In The Semi Final. Big One by 4Play(m): 4:33pm On Apr 11, 2008
mukina2:
Deola
Please stop creating threads about Barca and Manchester . the match have not been decided yet .

I moved the first one , that was why you could not see it .
Its because your club didn't make it past the Q/F. grin Jealousy dey kill some people. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (Old) by 4Play(m): 4:31pm On Apr 11, 2008
@Loyika

Been sitting back like you said,but can't see anything to admire. grin

Only thing to admire is what I have been admiring for over a decade now-Man Utd's samba football. cheesy

Do you have anything to say for yourself,any requiem for your trophy hopes. grin

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