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Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Goddys(m): 2:01pm On Mar 25, 2020
Afromentalist:
Hello guys, I forgot to add.

After you repeat the words you drink the glass of water. The Water memory helps you bring it to the subconscious. thanks.

CC. Gensteejay ThisisIkemefuna onlyforchrist kommy27 triplechoice

Waiting for update too. Have been very consistent with the exercise
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 2:04pm On Mar 25, 2020
Goddys:

Waiting for update too. Have been very consistent with the exercise
Same here bro.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 2:51pm On Mar 25, 2020
Same here
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 3:00pm On Mar 25, 2020
Goddys:
Waiting for update too. Have been very consistent with the exercise
Hello guys, I will drop the 3rd exercice this week end. Likely on Friday. I will drop a preparation message tonight.

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Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 4:56am On Mar 26, 2020
Hi everyone.

I have waited patiently for people to exercise a bit. It is a conditioning that will prepare for the. Next exercise. This should be a game changer. I will drop it on Friday /Saturday.

If you see absolutely no significant results after 3 months, you are free to drop it entirely and move on to other things.

Before I drop it, I would want everyone to get a small wrist bracelet. Whether a mala (Buddhist), or a rosary (catholic) or even a simple normal one. The pearls should be small enough (and big enough) that you can count them one after the other without much trouble and even your eyes closed.

It is not a must (I will indicate alternatives) but it is very recommended. There is a reason most religions in the world use one. Although many have lost the use and meaning.

Get one and lets start soon together.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 6:26am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:
Hi everyone.

I have waited patiently for people to exercise a bit. It is a conditioning that will prepare for the. Next exercise. This should be a game changer. I will drop it on Friday /Saturday.

If you see absolutely no significant results after 3 months, you are free to drop it entirely and move on to other things.

Before I drop it, I would want everyone to get a small wrist bracelet. Whether a mala (Buddhist), or a rosary (catholic) or even a simple normal one. The pearls should be small enough (and big enough) that you can count them one after the other without much trouble and even your eyes closed.

It is not a must (I will indicate alternatives) but it is very recommended. There is a reason most religions in the world use one. Although many have lost the use and meaning.

Get one and lets start soon together.

will let you know when I have one soon.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 7:21am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:
Hi everyone.

I have waited patiently for people to exercise a bit. It is a conditioning that will prepare for the. Next exercise. This should be a game changer. I will drop it on Friday /Saturday.

If you see absolutely no significant results after 3 months, you are free to drop it entirely and move on to other things.

Before I drop it, I would want everyone to get a small wrist bracelet. Whether a mala (Buddhist), or a rosary (catholic) or even a simple normal one. The pearls should be small enough (and big enough) that you can count them one after the other without much trouble and even your eyes closed.

It is not a must (I will indicate alternatives) but it is very recommended. There is a reason most religions in the world use one. Although many have lost the use and meaning.

Get one and lets start soon together.
I don't have any again, burnt them on leaving religion a few years ago.

But I have been using an app to count, which I downloaded specifically for the first exercise.

Are counter apps also OK?
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Goddys(m): 7:39am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:
Hi everyone.

I have waited patiently for people to exercise a bit. It is a conditioning that will prepare for the. Next exercise. This should be a game changer. I will drop it on Friday /Saturday.

If you see absolutely no significant results after 3 months, you are free to drop it entirely and move on to other things.

Before I drop it, I would want everyone to get a small wrist bracelet. Whether a mala (Buddhist), or a rosary (catholic) or even a simple normal one. The pearls should be small enough (and big enough) that you can count them one after the other without much trouble and even your eyes closed.

It is not a must (I will indicate alternatives) but it is very recommended. There is a reason most religions in the world use one. Although many have lost the use and meaning.

Get one and lets start soon together.

I will get one today
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 8:04am On Mar 26, 2020
gensteejay:

I don't have any again, burnt them on leaving religion a few years ago.

But I have been using an app to count, which I downloaded specifically for the first exercise.

Are counter apps also OK?
Not okay because you can't take them anywhere you go. You need something you can be using at any point in time during the day. A small bracelet does the job, it can remain on your wrist when you are busy, then you quickly use it when you are not. I am talking about the small ones such as the ones ladies wear on their wrist. Not the longer ones that are meant for the neck.

There are other methods I will share too, but in my experience nothing is as effective and efficient as the small bracelet, especially for starters with low willforce.

Also, it is not advisable to burn religious objects upon leaving their egregores. I know this is what many Christians do when they leave other cults. The proper thing to do is to send the objects back to the people that gave or sold it to you or n the first place.

Fortunately, the Jesus egregore is quite benevolent and compassionate, you have nothing to be afraid of.

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Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 8:08am On Mar 26, 2020
Goddys:


I will get one today
Good one. Take a solid one that can last many years. It can become a very helpful companion in the long run.

onlyforchrist:


will let you know when I have one soon.
Very good.

Again to that fool claiming I am trying to build an egregore. This is another proof I am not. If I wanted to create an egregore, I would have made and sold these myself to you guys to capture you, just as various movements are doing.

I instead allow you to freely buy and remain owners and free. Moreover, I will suggest alternative methods for people who may prefer to do differently.

Be all encouraged. Your life, your call, create your own luck and destiny and be a slave no more.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Goddys(m): 8:27am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Not okay because you can't take them anywhere you go. You need something you can be using at any point in time during the day. A small bracelet does the job, it can remain on your wrist when you are busy, then you quickly use it when you are not. I am talking about the small ones such as the ones ladies wear on their wrist. Not the longer ones that are meant for the neck.

There are other methods I will share too, but in my experience nothing is as effective and efficient as the small bracelet, especially for starters with low willforce.

Also, it is not advisable to burn religious objects upon leaving their egregores. I know this is what many Christians do when they leave other cults. The proper thing to do is to send the objects back to the people that gave or sold it to you or n the first place.

Fortunately, the Jesus egregore is quite benevolent and compassionate, you have nothing to be afraid of.

The way I have been counting is that I wrote down "Find divine order" 200 times and focus my eyes on it while visualizing my intent. In my free time, I will keep writing and writing it over and over in book to permeates my subconscious mind. I notice my mind chant it sometimes when I sleep.

The idea of bracelet came to my mind then as another alternative before you mentioned it here
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 8:30am On Mar 26, 2020
Goddys:


The way I have been counting is that I wrote down "Find divine order" 200 times and focus my eyes on it while visualizing my intent.

The idea of bracelet came to my mind then as another alternative before you mentioned it here
Very nice. It is an effective method.

200 times was just a number high enough to make sure it gets to the subconscious. It is not necessary to count. What matters is that it is consistent and repetitive.

The bracelet will not help in counting per se. It only helps to connect to your inner being. You will understand when I explain.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Goddys(m): 8:39am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Very nice. It is an effective method.

200 times was just a number high enough to make sure it gets to the subconscious. It is not necessary to count. What matters is that it is consistent and repetitive.

The bracelet will not help in counting per se. It only helps to connect to your inner being. You will understand when I explain.

OK bro. This has to work because I am no longer ready to seek assistance from any egregore. They disappoint. They give today and the flow stops tomorrow. I want to unleash the power of divine within me.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 8:59am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Not okay because you can't take them anywhere you go. You need something you can be using at any point in time during the day. A small bracelet does the job, it can remain on your wrist when you are busy

Okay. Thanks, sir. I will get one.

Afromentalist:
Also, it is not advisable to burn religious objects upon leaving their egregores. I know this is what many Christians do when they leave other cults. The proper thing to do is to send the objects back to the people that gave or sold it to you or n the first place.

Fortunately, the Jesus egregore is quite benevolent and compassionate, you have nothing to be afraid of.
Benevolent and compassionate? That's surprising to hear, bros. I don't think a benevolent entity will impose religion on and create hell fire for humans (their so-called creatures).

Many people have burnt the Bible and Qur'an on leaving the religions and are living fine, sir. Those egregores or gods can be regarded as non-existent on earth any longer.

For several years, atheists have been abusing them and are doing well in life, based on their humanly efforts and background.

Also, Christians have been abusing and saying disparaging things about Allah, the Islamic god without facing any repercussions.

Similarly, Muslims have been abusing and saying disparaging things about Jehovah and Jesus, without facing any repercussions.

And the same analogy applies to adherents of all the other religions.

It's either those gods don't exist at all or they once existed on this planet but are dead and gone millions of years ago. (I go with the latter).

OtemAtum even says all gods of religions are in a spiritual cage, and I feel he's right.

Anyone can say anything about those gods and live fine, as long as they don't do so in the presence of their worshippers.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 9:00am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Good one. Take a solid one that can last many years. It can become a very helpful companion in the long run.


Very good.

Again to that fool claiming I am trying to build an egregore. This is another proof I am not. If I wanted to create an egregore, I would have made and sold these myself to you guys to capture you, just as various movements are doing.

I instead allow you to freely buy and remain owners and free. Moreover, I will suggest alternative methods for people who may prefer to do differently.

Be all encouraged. Your life, your call, create your own luck and destiny and be a slave no more.

Thank you bro, some people believe help like this one you are doing is not always free.

So, when they see someone doing it they tend to make it look like you are doing it all to gain something using negative energy.

I'm very optimistic about the exercises and I anticipate good results.

I will check in some of the spiritual shops around if I can get the mala bracelet or rosemary. Thank you once again.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 9:03am On Mar 26, 2020
onlyforchrist:


I will check in some of the spiritual shops around if I can get the mala bracelet or rosemary. Thank you once again.
Don't take the rosemary thing. It's too long to be effective. Look for a small bracelet. There are small malas on Amazon but since Nigeria is not a Buddhist nation, you may it difficult. Just buy a small bracelet for the wrists. Ladies wear them a lot. If you can get a 108 small mala, it is even better.

But not the rosemary it is too long for that purpose and you can't wear it on your wrist.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 9:09am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Don't take the rosemary thing. It's too long to be effective. Look for a small bracelet. There are small malas on Amazon but since Nigeria is not a Buddhist nation, you may it difficult. Just buy a small bracelet for the wrists. Ladies wear them a lot. If you can get a 108 small mala, it is even better.

But not the rosemary it is too long for that purpose and you can't wear it on your wrist.

Yeah, I will try and find that small mala bracelet. Thanks bro
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 9:13am On Mar 26, 2020
gensteejay:
Benevolent and compassionate? That's surprising to hear, bros. I don't think a benevolent entity will impose religion on and create hell fire for humans (their so-called creatures).
An egregore is the product of the people not the other way round. So Jesus did not create hell, the people did.

But at its core Jesus is a compassionate deity with ideals close to what we would call socialism on our day (equality, wealth distribution, etc). I am not saying people should worship him.

I recommend not to burn their objects, because it is not the proper way to sepeeate oneself from an egregore. It is rather a negative karma. The correct thing to do is to return their object, if you got it from them.
gensteejay:
For several years, atheists have been abusing them and are doing well in life based on their humanly efforts and background.

Also, Christians have been abusing and saying disparaging things about Allah, the Islamic god without facing any repercussions.

Similarly, Muslims have been abusing and saying disparaging things about Jehovah and Jesus, without facing any repercussions.

And the same analogy applies to adherents of all the other religions.
Name calling is very different from burning the objects of an egregore. You are entitled to your opinion, but it is not proper to burn the property of another without consent.

And all in life is not about threats. I am advising on what to do, not threatening you. We must learn to act not only because there are no repercussions, but rather because it is the correct thing to do.

The correct thing to do is to send someone back his property when you want to part ways with him, irrespective of whether he will send you to jail or not.

Now, what you do with Allah and Jesus, dare not do it with amorc and free masonry or ogboni for instance. Don't burn their books when you leave their clubs or the thunder wey go strike you may come direct from Thor or Sango.

Allah and Jesus give little to people so they can also take very little. It is a different story all together with other egregores.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 9:14am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

An egregore is the product of the people not the other way round. So Jesus did not create hell, the people did.

But at its core Jesus is a compassionate deity with ideals close to what we would call socialism on our day (equality, wealth distribution, etc). I am not saying people should worship him.

I recommend not to burn their objects, because it is not the proper way to sepeeate oneself from an egregore. It is rather a negative karma. The correct thing to do is to return their object, if you got it from them.

Name calling is very different from burning the objects of an egregore. You are entitled to your opinion, but it is not proper to burn the property of another without consent.

And all in life is not about threats. I am advising on what to do, not threatening you. We must leanlrn to act not only because there are no repercussions, but rather because it is the correct thing to do.

The correct thing to do is to send someone back his property when you want to part ways with him, irrespective of whether he will send you to jail or not.

Now, what you do with Allah and Jesus, dare not do it with amorc and free masonry or ogboni for instance. Don't burn their books when you leave their clubs or the thunder wey go strike you may be come direct from sango.

Allah and Jesus give little to people so they can also take very little. It is a different story all together with other egregores.
All right, sir. Understood.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 9:16am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist, hope we will get your views about how jazz works or if really works in reality on the other thread.

Thanks a lot.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 10:05am On Mar 26, 2020
The first group, I was an aspirant . On leaving I disposed their materials which included the master's photograph in a refuse dump.That was more than 20years ago.
The second was 2years ago. Did not waste much time with that.A friend told me about them.I went to check things for myself.I was given some intro materials to read and understand more.Before leaving that day I was encouraged to apply for initiation.
At home, I went through the materials and I was impressed.Then 2 weeks later I attended their satsang where I was welcomed and a lady gave me the master's photo.
When I got home that day,after some contemplation I placed the photo under my pillow and had brief nap during which time I experienced the egregore.Did not like what I saw.I knew it was a warning from my higherself .It's not the first time I have had such warnings .
So I called the secretary the next day and told her that I am no longer interested in the initiation. She told me not to bother about it if that's what I want.I also did the same thing like the first by dumping the materials and the photo in the refuse dump.
Anything wrong with those actions?
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by kumulus(m): 11:09am On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:
Hi everyone.

I have waited patiently for people to exercise a bit. It is a conditioning that will prepare for the. Next exercise. This should be a game changer. I will drop it on Friday /Saturday.

If you see absolutely no significant results after 3 months, you are free to drop it entirely and move on to other things.

Before I drop it, I would want everyone to get a small wrist bracelet. Whether a mala (Buddhist), or a rosary (catholic) or even a simple normal one. The pearls should be small enough (and big enough) that you can count them one after the other without much trouble and even your eyes closed.

It is not a must (I will indicate alternatives) but it is very recommended. There is a reason most religions in the world use one. Although many have lost the use and meaning.

Get one and lets start soon together.


This bracelet ish coming up again....
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 11:23am On Mar 26, 2020
kumulus:


This bracelet ish coming up again....
Any problem with that?
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by kumulus(m): 12:01pm On Mar 26, 2020
onlyforchrist:


Any problem with that?


None at all....
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 12:49pm On Mar 26, 2020
triplechoice:
...

I would have advised you then to send it back to them, not just dump it. First of all because someone else may find it and misuse it to his own detriment. You may then have to share part of the responsibility to whatever happens next.

Second, since it came from them (and usually still belong to them) it is only proper to send it back to them, as the rightful owners. After all they did not force you into taking it. Why then dump their thing which you freely took from them.

The better thing to do is to send it back to them. Peacefully, with a written letter where you express your desire to Leave the organization. They may then try to persuade you into staying with them or even threaten you. You maintain your ground and have total trust in your divinity.

After some Time, they will Leave you to continue your life. The egregore may attack you from Time To time if he has reasons to, but you also protect yourself with a banishing practice such as the LbXX (withheld, people in the know have already identified what I am talking about) , and you are good to go.

All in All, I am not saying you have causes to be worried. You actually did nothing wrong, I am just trying to show a better way of handling these situations.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 12:49pm On Mar 26, 2020
kumulus:



This bracelet ish coming up again....
Which bracelet ish.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by kumulus(m): 5:41pm On Mar 26, 2020
Afromentalist:

Which bracelet ish.



Nothing to worry about bro....just a wake up call for me
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by onlyforchrist: 3:24pm On Mar 28, 2020
Afromentalist:

Don't take the rosemary thing. It's too long to be effective. Look for a small bracelet. There are small malas on Amazon but since Nigeria is not a Buddhist nation, you may it difficult. Just buy a small bracelet for the wrists. Ladies wear them a lot. If you can get a 108 small mala, it is even better.

But not the rosemary it is too long for that purpose and you can't wear it on your wrist.

Can I use this bracelet bro? just got it.

Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 3:49pm On Mar 28, 2020
onlyforchrist:


Can I use this bracelet bro? just got it.
yes it is perfect
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 3:56pm On Mar 28, 2020
Afromentalist:

It is possible to break free from all egregores. It is even the ultimate aim of human experience. The samsara wheel shows the relationship between this world and the world dominated by the egregores. We live here and look for their help. When we die, we go and serve them as payment (thinking we are in some heaven or hell). Once the time is over, we come back here and still again look for their help. And the cycle continues.

It is my opinion that divine consciousness happens when one manages to reject all form of egregoric slavery. breaking free to find and follow one's true purpose.

The usual procedure to be free from an egregore is to take an inner decision to depart. This applies to simple ideologies such as perhaps a pentecostal movement. If the adherent has been initiated into an egregore (such as the case may be in esoteric circles) depending on the strenght of the covenant with it it is more appropriate to make known officially (usually per writing) one's desire to withdraw to the "master" that manages the egregore and return every object and documents related to that egregore. One should also be prepared to lose everything they got from that egregore (positions, benefits and the like). Unshakable faith and determination are required, but normally it is achievable.
how do you prepare to leave everything you got from the egrogore? Does the egrogore withdraw everything from you or your subconscious mind makes you lose that connection with your egrogore and everything you have.
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 4:00pm On Mar 28, 2020
stupidity:
how do you prepare to leave everything you got from the egrogore? Does the egrogore withdraw everything from you or your subconscious mind makes you lose that connection with your egrogore and everything you have.
It normally happens on its own, naturally. It can also be dramatic, depending on the nature of your implication with that egregore. You can ease the process by seperating yourself from the things you got from it and turn it back to the representative of that egregore.

Why do you call yourself stupidity ? I would advise you not to program yourself and your unborn children that way.

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Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 4:40pm On Mar 28, 2020
Afromentalist:

It normally happens on its own, naturally. It can also be dramatic, depending on the nature of your implication with that egregore. You can ease the process by seperating yourself from the things you got from it and turn it back to the representative of that egregore.

Why do you call yourself stupidity ? I would advise you not to program yourself and your unborn children that way.
lol trust me, what goes on with this moniker has nothing to do with me. The fun of it.


I like your write up. Quite interesting and complicating. One cannot just read all this and go ahead to ditch his or her belief to try something new. It’s a longer process than you think and we humans are not patience for the result hence switch immediately.


I don’t know what you do or what you practice because I still can’t find any in your write up. Like I’m lost, but what I would do and suggest anyone should do is, use this your method to create a spark that connects the God inside of you, the God you know is the God inside of you. Your MIND.

I’m a Christian but I don’t do church. On my own I started to master the act of cleaning my mind and leaving blank before I talk to the God inside me. When I close my eyes and remain in that state, I say what comes to my heart. What comes to my mind at that moment? Of course the good things I have been wishing for. Not material things but the strength, knowledge, wisdom, long life to achieve whatever imaginary good life you have painted in your heart. I also learnt to have a clean heart.

Our heart/mind is more powerful than we think and it is the only way we can communicate with our egrogore or whatever god you worship.

If you as a human waste better part of your life keeping evil thought in heart, no good thought can come into your heart to stay. Your good thoughts are you wishes, what you wish for yourself. Like painting your future. No matter how small that evil is, it’s like a virus, once it enters your heart and corrupt it, it will do more damage before you recover your true self.


Think of the good things of life, not how you’ll pay back evil, not how you’ll pay revenge, someone that broke your heart or cheated you. Once you give in to these evil thought, every other good though you must have been harboring gets corrupted and slow down your progress in life.

This is my belief and it works for me.

I went through an experience that made me believe there’s a supreme being out there God. He did something great for me. But I’m still yet to understand how everything about him works because I found Him on my own. I’ll hate to start a church and start to hear what doesn’t go well with what I believe.

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