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Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 9:35am On Mar 08, 2020 |
Thank you guys for the encouragement. I have made it a kind of purpose to help as many africans as I can to change their fate for good. Only in this manner can our countries and continent truly emerge. After the theory (which is soon coming to an end) I will now move to the practical aspects with some exercices for people that shall be willing. stupidity:Bro I am not sure to understand you. Do you mean I confuse you with what I write? Feel free to ask questions. 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by ThisisIkemefuna(m): 9:35am On Mar 08, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Ride on.. You have my attention 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 8:05pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
We want to conclude this theoretical part with real life case studies, before we move into practice. The idea is to let you see tangible example of what we have been trying to explain about the Deprogramming - Reprogramming - Reboot (and safe mode). The Life of Ben carson Jr. These days, almost everyone knows Ben carson and his story. It is the story of that child from a single parent home that go all the way to become the greatest Neurochirurgian of his time, and arguably ever. He has now become US secretary of Housing and Urban development (equivalent of Minister in the US) and remained so since 2017. How was this miraculous turn around was possible. Let us break it down for people who do not know the full details of the Story. Ben carson was the worst Children of his school. He was the undisputed last. His father was polygamous and abandonned the Mother when Carson and his senior brother (Curtis, an equally very bad student)were still very young. Coming from a poor background and without fatherly help, the future seemed very dark for the family. Ben carson's mother always told his children they can achieve everything they want to achieve in life. She was pushing and motivating them, without great results. Lesson 1: Motivational Talks, although it is a step in the right direction has very little effectiveness. Why ? Because Word of Faith, Positive thinking and speaking,are an attempt to reprogram the unconscious mind with the wrong communication channel. Do you remember what we said? The higher Self does not understand words and logic. It only gets feelings, Images with a degree of consistency and intensity. So motivational speaking are only a positive first step but largely insufficient to turn one's destiny around. Ben carson' mother began working for Rich people as a Cleaner. As a highly intuitive person she then began to understand why the rich are rich and the poor remain inevitably poor. She observed that, Rich people had great habits that were passed unto them from generation to generation and that favoured prosperity. One of these habits was the intensive and extensive practice of reading. The Mother required them to stop watching all but 2 television programs per week. and with the time saved, start reading 2 books a week. This change that looked simple had dramatic effect.The children began to raise the results at school, until they became great achievers. It is not our aim here to explain the intrinsic reasons why reading could bring about such a major revolution in the lives of the children. Suffice here to indicate that once again, a change in the environment created a change in the programming, and a change of programming leads to a change of Fate. 4 Likes |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 9:12pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Are you an atheist? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 9:14pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Following. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 9:36pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 9:46pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
LordReed: Can you relate to what the OP is on about? To what extent do you agree/disagree with the OP? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by LordReed(m): 10:03pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
elated177: Yes because it is analogous to how the mind works. You layer instructions after instructions on your mind until it becomes habit/ingrained/reflexive. Up until the mention of egregore. I don't believe spirits of any sort exist. However we shall not derail this thread with that topic. If you want further discussion, open a new thread or call my attention to any thread of your choice. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 10:10pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
elated177: No. Why do you want to know? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 10:16pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
LordReed: Mmhmm! Hmmmmh! Don't worry your atheist head about derailing the thread. Something the OP said attracted my attention and i intend getting it sorted. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 10:16pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 10:26pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
elated177: are you confused!? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 10:33pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 12:00am On Mar 09, 2020 |
elated177: Then you are not a sincere person. If you already conclude that I am atheist,then why don't proceed with what you have in mind so that you can get further confirmation? If you cannot tell the difference, sorry I cannot help you Or maybe you should ask the holy spirit . Please discontinue the questioning and tell me what you have in mind if not don't expect my reply |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 8:07am On Mar 09, 2020 |
triplechoice:Ignore that guy, he is a well known religious crusader / troll. His only aim is to confuse the thread. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 10:14am On Mar 09, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Of course I will ignore him. Now concerning your last post, there are certain things I don't agree with You seem to suggest that affirmations are not enough but I know that the subconscious mind (the higher self) is anenabe to suggestion especially when such suggestions are issued consistently with focus and concentration. And also, if the higherself does not respond to logical command as you have said , how do you explain the reaction of hypnotised subjects who are obviously responding to the suggestion issued by the hypnotist? 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 3:51pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
triplechoice:Hello Baba, disagreements are inevitable and very welcome. But I just want to make sure that you understand my point very clearly. 1- I did not say that suggestions can't affect the higher self. I said motivational speech (word of faith, positive thinking and talking) is a first step, but in itself it is not enough. Now Suggestion can't be limited to positive thinking and word of faith. As you know even a sigil is a suggestion while it is not a positive thought. Almost every nigerian pentecostal christian practice word of faith. Thats a core bone of their preaching. IThe main doctrine of the Oyedepos and the Oyakilhome is positive thinking. Do you see them experiencing a radical change? a Word of faith is good, but not good enough. It is not the fast lane. And the reason is very clear: The higher self does not (clearly) understand english. All your english you are talking is only good for your rational self. 2- With respect to hypnosis, I do not consider Hypnosis as evidence of interaction with the higher self. The higher self as you know is the God in us. That which is divine and essential at the very core of our being. Hypnosis is simply a method to get to the base of the lower self. Hypnosis will only make the hypnosed do what he already want (but he is not aware of it), and not what he does not want. Meaning under hypnosis, a person is still within its program. You can take hypnosis as the safe mode of the computer. All the other programs are still except the very necessary one. You can hypnose someone and he jumps like a Monkey, but you can't hypnose someone to become Rich for instance. So according to me, hypnosis is no indication of a direct contact with the God in us. Since you are already a practitioner, I would add this: a better approach to suggestion is the use of Images and feelings (coupled with the positive thinking / word of faith). It will work 100 time faster and bring quicker results. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 4:03pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
triplechoice: Did you just mention sincerity? Seriously! Your posts suggest that you are an atheist. How is it that you claimed not to be one? Are you an atheist or not? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 4:07pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Address me directly. Are you not sure of what you are expousing? Are you worried or something? Engage me and prove how I am a religious crusader/troll. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 5:12pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
Afromentalist: You know sometimes what seem obvious to you may not be so for others. I thought that some persons might get confused or find it difficult to accept when hear that affirmations don't work or do much I believe that what you just explained may clear any such confusion or doubt. It's ok. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 5:26pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
elated177: What's your problem? I have told already that if you can't tell the difference, I cannot help you I am yet to come across any atheist who would hide or deny their identify especially on an anonymous forum like this. What exactly is it that I have said to make you conclude that I an atheist. Asumming I were to be one . What do you intend to do? My friend please stop quoting me if you have no reasonable thing to say. And for the last time , it's your problem if you're not intelligent enough to tell the difference. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Ranchhoddas: 11:19pm On Mar 09, 2020 |
All this grammar can be reduced to one Bible verse. Proverbs 23 vs 7 As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. It is very ridiculous and blasphemous even to say Jesus is an egregore 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 5:05am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Ranchhoddas:This is (religious) positive thinking, and as I have indicated earlier with many arguments, it is not enough to master your fate (see my discussion with tripl choice). Now, I am not a Biblian, and unless you bring forward your arguments as to why my stance is wrong according to you, there is little I can do. A Bible verse is not enough to convince any serious seeker of anything. If you feel it is enough to make positive declarations to master your fate go right ahead. Almost every Nigerian pentecostal does this on a daily basis as it is the core doctrine of pentecostal theology. Yet nothing significant happens and the reason is simple as I have already indicated before. Ranchhoddas:Jesus is a deity (an egregore that has grown to become self conscious and immortal. A very powerful one but still an egregore.). Like I said if you bring forward your arguments (not Bible verses or hear say), we can discuss. But it seems you are more interested in scoffing. I really have no time for people who think they already know and are superior to others. Even when one disagrees, the correct thing to do is bring forward superior argument and be ready to learn. When the cup is full, it can't be filled. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 5:30am On Mar 10, 2020 |
I wanted to continue with further real life examples and explanations but at this point, I think we can stop the theory here for the moment and begin intense practice. We shall practice for a limited period of time with different exercises of increasing interest and difficulty. We will see how the theory here translates in real actions one can take to recover the key to one's life fate. Before we engage in it, the floor is open to whatever serious questions you might have. Disagreements are expected and welcomed provided they come with arguments. Religious people are welcomed but religious crusading shall be ignored. Cc lordreed triplechoice tillaman Stanley al Pacino Oblitz ekejoestar gensteejay 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Nobody: 5:44am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Thanks. Following 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by LordReed(m): 5:57am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Thanks for your presentation. As you may have noticed my only serious disagreement is on the issue of spirits and since this may not be central to the overall purpose of this presentation, I am willing to overlook it for now. Maybe some other time we will have opportunity to discuss that aspect more in depth. Thank you and keep up the good work. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Ranchhoddas: 6:58am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Afromentalist:Pseudo-occultic garble. What you think, you become. End of. Now, I am not a Biblian, and unless you bring forward your arguments as to why my stance is wrong according to you, there is little I can do. A Bible verse is not enough to convince any serious seeker of anything.Jesus is a sovereign powerful God. But feel free to continue blasphemimg. It's a free world. Like I said if you bring forward your arguments (not Bible verses or hear say), we can discuss. But it seems you are more interested in scoffing. I really have no time for people who think they already know and are superior to others. Even when one disagrees, the correct thing to do is bring forward superior argument and be ready to learn. When the cup is full, it can't be filled.Whatever... |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 7:34am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Ranchhoddas: A gode among many others just like I said. Praise the Loud. 1 Like |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by triplechoice(m): 1:29pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
Afromentalist: How do you deal with doubt when working with the second method of not using an egrregore? I have observed that sometimes doubts still come inspite of the successes one may get Somtimes you think, it might just be coincidence. Or when you look around, you see people who you think don't use or know these things succeeding and you wonder if you are not wasting your time.Or what is the explanation for those who were born into poverty and still manage to succeed without knowing any of these things? Is it that they unconsciously used these principles? And another thing, I know for this to work one must believe and expect it will work.Or does your method work whether you expect it to work or not? And finally,how can one break free from an egrregore,is it possible especially when such an egrregore is something that is tied to the family bloodline? |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by Afromentalist: 3:36pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
@triplechoice , Very nice set of questions. I will reply them once I hit home. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 6:25pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Whenever you people teach these things you teach, I just wish you will leave the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty well alone and completely out of it. From your very first set of comments, it is obvious that you do not believe in the existence of Creator, or even any god at all. From what you have stated so far, one could extrapolate that you have reduced the existence of any supernatural being to what you referred to as a collection of thoughtforms or egregore. By so doing, you have stated - albeit not in plain terms - that the existence of anything like a supernatural being, a god if you like, is an imagination or creation of humans. I stand to be corrected. You implied, by your teachings, that what humans refer to as supernatural beings were actually their creations via their collective thoughts. Again, I stand to be corrected. Now, why did you have to drag the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty into whatever it is you are espousing and expounding here? There is no iota of similarity between the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty and whatever you are trying to sell here. The portion of the Scriptures you quoted is from the book of Psalms chapter one. The meaning of that portion quoted is transparent and simple to understand. The writer, who happens to be king David, hid no subtle meaning in it. King David simply expressed the importance of keeping the Commandments of the YHVH Almighty and the blessings which follow those who do so. Yahushua the Messiah, whom I guess you referred to as Jesus - unless you meant any Jesus in Mexico, is the Word of YHVH Almighty, his Son. He is not an egregore. He did not come into existence by human design or through human desire. He does not depend on humans for existence. He does not feed on the energy of humans. He, as the Bread of Life, fills his followers with the energy they need to fight spiritual warfare. The Creator of the heavens, earth and the seas and all that is in them is the Father of my Master, Yahushua the Messiah and Father of the spirits of flesh, He is, most definitely, not an egregore. Whenever you people drag the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty into your masked satanic (occultic, witchcraft, etc) teachings, you are most definitely going to get a resounding rebuke and fierce opposition from his saints. If you like call it religious crusading, trolling or whatever, it will not deter the saints. To avoid this opposition or rebuke, steer clear of the Scriptures of my Father in heaven. I wouldn't have had any business commenting here if you had not dragged the Scriptures into your egregore/occultic/witchcraft teaching. |
Re: The Science Behind Grace / Luck - [mentalists Only] by elated177: 7:35pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
triplechoice: Difference between what? triplechoice: triplechoice: triplechoice: What do you really believe in, triplechoice? |
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