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Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by revolt(m): 9:28am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Give credits to whom deserves honour if I remember the benin empire was brought down by the British plus they didn't suffer a quarter of what igbos saw but till today after almost two centuries the effects still strong on em. Igbo NDA!!!!! |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by PhysicsMHD(m): 9:30am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Adekunle Fajuyi? respected? He was a covert coupist, right? |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by ektbear: 9:32am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Justcash: Are we measuring overall dollar value of the factories, or just quantity? I'm sure Anambra has more quantity, but I highly doubt that the overall value of the business they do exceeds that of Lagos. Otherwise I'm a bit surprised that McKinsey for example decided to open their office in Lagos rather than Anambra |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Justcash(m): 9:33am On Jan 11, 2011 |
ekt_bear:[b]You have a point, but still, manufacturing in Nigeria can never be cheaper than making the same abroad and importing. I can get anything Cheaper in Asia than in Nigeria. I can even take Cassava to Asia, turn into a packaged cassava product and return it, it will still be cheaper than the ones made in Nigeria, despite the cost of the flight. You sure under-estimate how costly and frustrating it is to manufacture in Nigeria. Lack of electricity is not the only problem, security (You need to pay for effective security), transportation, Multiple taxation, corruption (Sorting), availability of unqualified but over-demanding employees due to strong unions etc. It is only mushroom factories (Very small) or very large and government supported factories that can survive easily in Lagos state. The existence of the cheap imported products makes manufacturing unattractive. However, the local manufacturers can compete effectively if an enabling environment is created for them, and taxes are stamped on the imported products.[/b] |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 9:34am On Jan 11, 2011 |
afam4eva: Like I said, you people are very intellectually lazy, why not just goodle the place and find out what they make? Internet is a great asset, use the damn thing, ADEOLA ODUTOLA INDUSTRIES PLC Business: Rethreading of Vehicles Tyres, Rubber & Oil Palm Plantation, Manufacturing of Technical Rubber Products, Production of Biscuits. Cocoa Palm Plantation Incorporation: 1948 Address: Adeola Odutola Industrial Estate, Old Lagos Road, Ijebu-Ode, Ogun State Tel: (037) 432322 So Honda, cement factories, pharmaceuticals, breweries, Cement factories, iron and steel are shops. I hope you ain't joking because you sound very silly and ignorant. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Onlytruth(m): 9:35am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Eko Ile: But you forget that the auto industries in the south east is dependent on the smaller auto spare parts factories scattered from Nnewi to Enugu. The Innoson auto plant will source 60% -70% of their materials from local industries existing synergistically with the plant. Like I said before, the state governments don't have good websites except Imo state, but Imo does not have the type of industries we are talking about; only Anambra, Enugu and Abia have them, and they don't have the list online. So, here you go. One down for you. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Onlytruth(m): 9:40am On Jan 11, 2011 |
ekt_bear: International companies locate in areas closest to international airports. Anambra does not have that. Let's keep things in proper perspective. Now, when Enugu international airport becomes fully operational, we can come back after some years to re-evaluate. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by PhysicsMHD(m): 9:41am On Jan 11, 2011 |
revolt: lol, what effects? Are Benin people roaming the countryside as almajiris and selling suya? And the very fact that they bounced back from total destruction of their main city and many villages and went on to surpass folks in the ND, Middlebelt, west, and east who didn't experience such should show how out of place this "bounce back" idea is in discussions of economic competence or other competence. What are groups who naturally attained any great heights supposed to do, NOT bounce back? There's no way that could happen. The "Igbo DNA" thing is even funnier, guy, please identify the Igbo "bounce back" gene. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Justcash(m): 9:41am On Jan 11, 2011 |
ekt_bear: Like I said, companies with big brands prefer to exist in Lagos, and are very surpported by the government. However, in terms of number of factories (addition of big and small) (Including toilet tissue, pure water factories LOL!), Anambra gat more than Lagos state. Ogun state is no where near any of Anambra, Abia and Enugu. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 9:42am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: What's your point really? What's all this rubbish got to do with tens of major industries employing thousands of people and paying taxes? And please, stop making silly excuses, there is nothing on their website because there is nothing to put on the website. You yourself can not name them. Abeg stop jare, |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 9:44am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Justcash: Nothing but 419 talk, Name them or keep quiet. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by excanny: 9:49am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Damn! Why are Igbo states refusing to post directories of their industries on their sites. At least I'm sure of Nnewi. Those folks there are just crazy with technology Economy As a fast developing city and a major industrial and commercial hub in Africa, Nnewi experiences voluminous financial activities, therefore hosts major banks, and other financial institutions. Industries are dotted around the city and adjoining towns. Palm oil, cosmetics, motor, and motorcycle spare parts, books, and stationeries, textiles, electric cables, and so on are produced in commercial quantity in the area. As a result, Nnewi is commonly refers to as the “Japan of Africa". Its main trading centers include, Nkwo Nnewi market (the largest spare parts market in west Africa) and Nwafor market, Eke Amaobi market, Eke Ochie, Eke Ichi Market, Orie otube Market, etc. Agriculture and Forestry The main occupation of Nnewi people is trading and farming, therefore they depend mainly on agriculture and commerce for their daily livelihood. Most Nnewian have mbubo (home gardens) and ubi (out-station gardens) were they usually cultivate their farm products. These crops when they are harvested are usually taken to the market for sale. Most of the prime cash crops include oil palm, raffia palm, groundnut, melon, cotton, cocoa, rubber, maize, et cetera. Food crops such as yam, cassava, cocoyam, breadfruit, and three-leaf yam are also produced in large quantities. The location of Nnewi within the tropical rainforest gives it the ecological basis for production of a wide range of tropical agriculture crops with widespread potential for industrial convention. Industries Nnewi is home to many major manufacturing industries including[b] Ibeto Group of Companies, Cutix and ADswitch, Uru Industries Ltd, Omata Holdings Ltd, Cento Group of Companies, Coscharis of Companies Group, Innoson Group of Companies, Ebunso Nig. Ltd, John White Industries, Ejiamatu Group of Companies, Horizontal Ent. Ltd, M. O. I. Ltd.DE R.C ORIZ INV Ltd., Chicason Group.[/b] The great majority of industrialists in the cluster of spare parts factories in Nnewi are also traders, and most of these traders are producing one or more of the products they specialize in marketing as traders (usually motor vehicle parts), and most began by distributing their products through their preexisting distribution networks. Nnewi is part of eastern Nigeria's industrial axis. The town has through culturally grounded institutions that act as sophisticated networks expanded to include an international dimension through trading relations with exporters from Asia. Over the last decade, the town of Nnewi has experienced relatively rapid industrialization. In excess of 20 medium to large scale industries have been established across a variety of sectors. Since 1970, Nnewi residents have controlled approximately 80 to 90 percent of the motor-parts trade in Nigeria. Nkwo Nnewi Market is the major import and wholesale point for motor spare parts in Nigeria. The industrialists of Nnewi are adapting foreign technology to local needs, providing employment to thousands, and making available goods and services which are relevant actual needs of the Nigerian citizens. Autoparts Nnewi is renowned for producing great statesmen and leaders of commerce. The town is also one of the major trading and manufacturing centers of Nigeria. By 1940, Nnewi residents were at the center of an international trading network that dominated the supply of motor spare parts in Nigeria. The town subsequently became a center for commerce and industry, and has one of the largest automotive parts markets in Africa. Nnewi Township is an authentic "manufacturing miracle." Small and medium sized industries have set up in the town and are producing not only for the Nigeria markets but - albeit still to a limited extent - for markets abroad. Industrialization of the town began around 1970 when Nnewi motor parts traders began marketing their own brand name products instead of the reproductions of "original" parts. For example, new auto plant, which is being built in Nnewi by a private investor, Chief Innocent Chukwuma, OON, in partnership with Chinese auto makers is geared towards productions of class of automobiles,[b] Cletus Ibeto , Ogbuawa, Jonatec Auto Supply International [/b]owned by Chief Nwabueze Emenike and host of other traders deals on Motor cycle spare parts and tires.- From Wikipedia(not a reliable source, but a guide) |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Onlytruth(m): 9:51am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Eko Ile: lol. Whatever boils your water for tea! Personally I'm not really into this argument to convince your type, just to put things in proper perspective. Igboland is almost synonymous with industry. Every Nigerian knows that. That is probably why the governors never thought of creating websites to blow their trumpets. The owners of the factors/industries are busy hustling. A single pharmaceutical company like [b]Juhel [/b]is one of the largest pharmaceutical industries in the WORLD. Juhel employs thousands of people. But your type can never know that. So, keep looking for that website. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 9:52am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Is it not Ironic that Imo state that has the best and comprehensive website is not known for industries. At least those states no matter how crappy their sites are should endeavour to post it on their site. The Ogun state website just like many othet state website is crap but they did us a favour by posting the industries in their state. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by ektbear: 9:53am On Jan 11, 2011 |
I took the attached screenshot from page 6 of the following report: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbcglobal.org%2FCBCG_Library%2FAYO%2520Gbeleyi%2C%2520Power.ppsx&ei=ahcsTZfOOIT7lwfc8sDWCw&usg=AFQjCNHat4X8FgC4Qpx4oXEsByCstWYT8A I'm a bit skeptical of the claims that the entire SE does more manufacturing than Lagos (I mean dollar value of business, not just # of factories.) If that economic significance were there, it should show up somehow. . .
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Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by ektbear: 9:56am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: That is not how things work for McK. They chase money too. If there is money to be made in Anambra, then they'll open an office there, international airport or not. They have offices in even the Minnesotas of the world (though I do concede that Minny has world-class airports, something Anambra (and Nigeria in general) lacks). |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Nobody: 9:58am On Jan 11, 2011 |
afam4eva: You really can't help yourself. Everything has to be a competition between ibo and Yoruba! |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Onlytruth(m): 10:00am On Jan 11, 2011 |
ekt_bear: And how would they enter and leave Anambra state? Let me guess. They land in Lagos or Abuja and then take a 7 hour drive to Anambra state along the terrible armed robber infested Nigerian roads, right? Sorry, no deal. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 10:01am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Aigbofa: Tribal bigot. How does my post even suggest that i'm comparing Igbo and Yoruba. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Justcash(m): 10:02am On Jan 11, 2011 |
So after defeating the East in the civil war, all Yoruba folks can boast of is a bunch of factories, that can't make any impact on employment. Well, it is a Pity. The Hausa folks have accepted that they messed up, it is the few Yoruba folks here that are trying to justify how much village factories the civil war victory helped them to get. It is indeed a pity. May God help all of you. I'm outta here. 1 Like |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 10:03am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: This is one of the largest pharmaceutical industries in the WORLD? Must you people insult our intelligence? http://www.juhelnigeria.com/ |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 10:03am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: Things will change as soon as the Asaba Airport is ready. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Nobody: 10:05am On Jan 11, 2011 |
afam4eva: afam4eva calling someone a bigot!! Wunderbar! |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 10:07am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Justcash: I wonder why your people and many from every corner of Nigeria call Lagos home/are trooping to Lgaos. And I wonder why Lagosians and Yoruba people are not venturing into iboland. See how silly you sound? |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 10:10am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Eko Ile: See how daft you sound. Why have people started trooping to Abuja. It's because it was built with Oil money. Nigeria's money. Why is it that whenever you wan to prove that Igbos are running to Yoruba land it's only lagos you use as an example. Why are Igbos not trooping to Akure, Abeokuta, Oshogbo enmasse. Do the math or keep quiet. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Onlytruth(m): 10:10am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Eko Ile: Yes it is! afam4eva: As long as it is INTERNATIONAL, we don't have a problem. Another local airport is of no use to us. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 10:12am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: So what are u suggesting. That's an International airport in Enugu. If Onitsha needs an International airport then they willl have to build one of international standard and have it approved by government if they will agree. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Nobody: 10:13am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Justcash: I guess you are referring to those ramshackle workshops in iboland as "factories" I know how most of those "Made in Aba" shoes are made. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 10:16am On Jan 11, 2011 |
afam4eva: Ode!!! Are we talking about Lagos or Abuja? And it makes no difference to me what part of Yorubaland you fancy? Lagos is a Yoruba state period, and you and your people ain't ish till you enter or claim Lagos. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by EkoIle1: 10:18am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: My bad, I don forget say delusions na one of your numerous ibo attributes, |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by Afam4eva(m): 10:19am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Eko Ile: See MUMU, Lagos has so many opportunities and these opportunities were created by Igbos, Yorubas alike. So i don't know why you're M-A-S-T-U-R-B-A-T-I-N-G over this Igbos moving to lagos issue. At least human beings are still left in the east and they are making it big. |
Re: Don't The Igbos Deserve A Round Of Applause? by ektbear: 10:20am On Jan 11, 2011 |
Onlytruth: Are there no flights from Abuja to anywhere near Anambra? In 2006 I went to PH for vacation, went from Houston -> Europe -> PH. Or am I imagining things? I'm pretty sure we didn't touch down in Lagos, flew directly from Europe to PH. Unless the airport in PH is no longer functional, or Anambra is inaccessible from PH, then it shouldn't be as bad as you say. I wouldn't know the situation on the ground there now though. |
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