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Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 10:37am On Jun 03, 2020
isthatso:
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It depends on who is writing the history. Others may say the SE are the ones who upended our collective development in 1966, unwittingly resulting in central (Northern) control of regional resources and revenues which is the genesis of our stagnation and underdevelopment.

Some would say the the misadventures of the SE in 1966 and 1967 is the reason we were saddled with a constitution designed not for economic progress but primarily for political control.

If there was no coup and there was no civil war, there would be no 36 states, the North would be developing their minerals and agric to compete with the south, there would be no quota system. SE would control Nigeria’s oil and the west would develop with agric and industry.

If there was no coup and no civil war we wouldn’t have a situation where northerners illegally mine their minerals and pocket it because they can spend oil money from the SS. If there was no coup, northerners would be in a mad rush to send their kids to school instead of breeding them like rats for elections.

What baffles me the most is for someone to suppress facts, the truth and be bias for obvious reasons. Illegal mining & bunkering has been militating against the development of Nigeria for long. It is an economic sabotage perpetrated by Nigerians from different regions without exception (its in our character). But for someone to rewrite history or what is collective and attribute it to a particular region is evil, wicked and malicious to say the least. The locals from all communities, tend to illegally mine resources within their domain without exception in connivance with security personnel, politicians, businessmen. Be it gold in Zamfara, Osun, Rocks all over the country, nickel in Southern Kaduna, Other mineral deposits in Kogi, Kwara, Nasarrawa, Plateau, Cross river, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu, Kaduna, Crude oil in Akwa ibom, Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Edo, Anambra, Imo amongst others.

Illegal mining in Niger, Plateau, Zamfara, Enugu, Imo, cross rivers state amongst others.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201903010166.html

https://www.thecable.ng/how-illegal-mining-is-sabotaging-the-nigerian-economy/amp

https://www.cfr.org/blog/primer-nigerias-oil-bunkering

https://www.legit.ng/amp/1215316-where-gold-nigeria.html

https://punchng.com/govs-behind-illegal-mining-of-gold-zinc-others-minister-senate-panel/?amp=1


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/09/01/taming-the-monster-of-oil-bunkering-and-gas-pipeline-vandalism/amp/

https://www.dpr.gov.ng/unleashing-tech-to-curb-illegal-oil-bunkering-on-nigerian-waters/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/05/09/powerful-individuals-behind-illegal-mining-in-nigeria-says-mines-minister/amp/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lj6c9vmfIY

https://punchng.com/waging-war-against-illegal-oil-bunkering/?amp=1

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/391246-17-chinese-men-arrested-for-illegal-mining-in-nigeria.html

https://www.blueprint.ng/the-untold-story-of-gold-mining-in-zamfara-state/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tuP64u5X1k


From the tone of the caster, she was too emotional and sentimental. As gold had been discovered in Zamfara since 1934 and illegal mining proper started in 2008-2010. Why didn't the then Administrations start to harness it for the benefit of all.
If she or other southerns don't know gold was discovered since 1913, 1930s and illegal mining started around 2008 to 2010 just as in Osun, whose fault is it?

Some states with illegal mining activities;

Illegal mining in Cross river state.

https://punchng.com/nscdc-arrest-six-suspected-illegal-miners/?amp=1

Illegal mining in Zamfara.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/390060-police-arrest-two-chinese-for-illegal-mining-in-zamfara.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/04/zamfara-gold-threat-to-development-and-national-stability/amp/

Illegal mining in Ebonyi state.
https://punchng.com/four-chinese-16-others-arrested-in-ebonyi-over-illegal-mining/?amp=1

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/amp/news/282918/ebonyi-seals-mining-firms-for-illegal-operations.html

https://punchng.com/illegal-miners-steal-ebonyis-resources-daily-says-umahi/?amp=1

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/01/illegal-mining-community-sends-sos-to-umahi/amp/

Illegal mining in Enugu state.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/11/23/fg-moves-to-revive-enugu-coal-mines/amp/

Illegal mining in Anambra state.
https://www.nairaland.com/3456975/gov-obiano-prohibits-illegal-mining

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/anambra-govt-warns-against-illegal-mining-sand-excavation/amp/

https://m.facebook.com/197275983629113/photos/a.340995802590463/474132362610139/?type=3


Illegal oil bunkering in Lagos state.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/nnpc-illegal-oil-bunkering-site-found-in-lagos/n7f344g

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/08/12/10-houses-shut-12-illegal-oil-wells-uncovered-in-lagos/amp/

Illegal mining in Nassarawa state.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/04/fg-advises-miners-to-get-mineral-titles/amp/

https://m.guardian.ng/news/minister-seeks-end-to-illegal-mining/

https://nnn.com.ng/nasarawa-govuTtHkCAAsiIr-with-rmrdc-on-illegal-mining/

Illegal oil bunkering in Ogun.

https://punchng.com/ogun-community-decries-alleged-invasion-by-oil-thieves/?amp=1

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/illegal-oil-bunkering-site-uncovered-in-ogun.html/amp

Illegal oil bunkering in Imo state.

https://thenationonlineng.net/policemen-in-illegal-bunkering-crush-man-to-death-in-imo-community/amp/

https://m.facebook.com/notes/nigeria-security-and-civil-defence-corps/we-have-eradicated-oil-bunkering-in-imo/569613333099180/

https://allafrica.com/stories/201110100668.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTtHkCAAsiI

Illegal mining in Oyo state.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nnn.com.ng/nscdc-arrests-5-suspected-illegal-miners-in-oyo/

https://m.guardian.ng/news/oyo-state-decries-loss-of-revenue-to-illegal-mining/

Illegal oil bunkering in Rivers state.

https://www.hrw.org/legacy/backgrounder/africa/nigeria0205/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvHIh1yPN_g

http://www.efccnigeria.org/efcc/news/4664-15-oil-thieves-jailed-in-port-harcourt-for-illegal-oil-bunkering


Illegal mining in Zamfara (2008-2010).
https://www.blueprint.ng/the-untold-story-of-gold-mining-in-zamfara-state/

https://m.guardian.ng/opinion/bloody-gold-in-zamfara-threat-to-stability-or-development-opportunity/

https://www.pambazuka.org/global-south/tragic-gold-mining-affair-zamfara-state

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/04/zamfara-gold-threat-to-development-and-national-stability/amp/.

If one makes emphasis on Zamfara because of the senseless killings, its understandable but not as if its the only state illegal mining occurs or don't remit to FG the proceeds of the solid mineral deposits in its domain.
Not that one is condoning an illegal act as it belongs to all Nigerians based on the Unification decree promulgated by General Aguiyi Ironsi of blessed memory, but he who must come to equity, must come with clean hands to say the least.

Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by surgical: 10:38am On Jun 03, 2020
mofebosola:
This idea of taking all manner of loans is a parochial lazy man's approach. And it is tantamount to postponing the evil day. What reasonable and patrotic leaders would do in this kibd of situation will be to look inward first. Then having taken a series of belt tightening procedures among themselves, then they can call on the masses to do same. And no doubt the masses will gladly follow a good exaple being laid by those in authority. It's after that that loan becomes the last option - certainly not the first especially on an already loan stressed economy.
Part of the steps could be selling off some of the aircrafts in the over bloated presidential fleet. Also, the much touted jumbo pays (salaries abd allowances) of the executive and legislative arms of government should be shelved
Then the luxuries of both executive and legislative arms of retinue of officialdom at public functions should also be curbed. When they have done these, then the masses will willingly submit to belt tightening procedures. Not this one that they are accumulating debts for our children and children's children.
It is because of this recklessness that they induced their Zombies to oust saraki Senate,now that they've successfully put in their rubber stamp national Assembly,it just an easy thing now to mortgage the future of the gullible and ignorant Nigerian youths
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by delvzy(m): 10:53am On Jun 03, 2020
gideonvalor98:

Which year den born you sef? Be like you still dey your mother womb when Jonathan was the president abi? You southeast dey enjoy the money una dey share then na...that's why you dey regret say your Mr ATM no dey again. Na wail go kill all of una

Well I don't have much to say based on your comments I've lived on this earth to know what's good for me as a citizen of this nation.
Saying my MR ATM no dey again just comes to prove your point of not standing up against what is wrong.
And for your information I have the right to criticise any appointed government that fails to know his or her duties as a leader.

That's the true meaning of a Nigerian.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by zoomzoom(m): 10:57am On Jun 03, 2020
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The SE didn't resist the previous govt when crude was above $110 and same govt was borrowing to pay salary?
PMB is borrowing to put more infrastructures in place not borrowing to pay Salary even when crude is now$30 par barrel
US as of today has borrowed up till $24.7trillion
The hypocrite in you.


What INFRASTRUCTURE?.
Where are the infrastructures?.
Let's at least know what he has done with the previous BORROWED funds before approving ANOTHER.. but do they care?.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 10:59am On Jun 03, 2020
isthatso:
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It depends on who is writing the history. Others may say the SE are the ones who upended our collective development in 1966, unwittingly resulting in central (Northern) control of regional resources and revenues which is the genesis of our stagnation and underdevelopment.

Some would say the the misadventures of the SE in 1966 and 1967 is the reason we were saddled with a constitution designed not for economic progress but primarily for political control.

If there was no coup and there was no civil war, there would be no 36 states, the North would be developing their minerals and agric to compete with the south, there would be no quota system. SE would control Nigeria’s oil and the west would develop with agric and industry.

If there was no coup and no civil war we wouldn’t have a situation where northerners illegally mine their minerals and pocket it because they can spend oil money from the SS. If there was no coup, northerners would be in a mad rush to send their kids to school instead of breeding them like rats for elections.

The South can as well breed their rats for election too.
Its among the fundamental human rights of a Nigerian to family life. So why the fuss?

Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by ofonimi: 11:30am On Jun 03, 2020
Responsible Nigerians should not forget how much billions of naira the executive spent to install the national assembly leaders, that is the senate president and the speaker house of representative. It was an investment that will benefit the executive. So any request from the executive to the senate or house of rep will always have free passage no matter how irrelevant that request should be it must be granted. In the history of this contraption call Nigeria, I have never witnessed any government that obtained loans like this administration. It is rather unfortunate that a country that is so blessed by God should find itself in the hand of this type of selfish rulership. May God deliver his own from the hand of these evil rulers in Jesus name. Amen.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by melbergalex25: 12:10pm On Jun 03, 2020
God will punish the so called president,and everybody that surpport him
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by akdjr(m): 1:17pm On Jun 03, 2020
When I expect South East to kick or protest they will fold their arms and be insulting other tribes, as a South South man I strongly believe southeast are not fairly treated as a citizen of this country. I was expecting them to protest Nationwide when Olisa Mentu was sentence to jail not because he's not guilty of the crime but others who are also accomplice are still moving freely. Dasuki has been released, Fayose is holidaying somewhere, Obanikoro is living inhis mansion, Fani Kayode is moving freely on same crime that Olisa Mentu has-been convicted of. Una fight de always make bele run me.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Jdbrasco2: 1:31pm On Jun 03, 2020
JAMO84:
I wouldn't support this loan if this government have at least, 80 percent of the revenue the previous government had.


Add all the recoveries, loans and taxes, Buhari would still be at least 200 billion dollars behind Jonathan.


If oil was selling at seventy dollars and a certain government was taking billions of loans to pay salaries, is it now that it's 30 dollars that we shouldn't take loans? Will Buhari pay for all these gigantic projects with his military pension?


Please, anyone that cannot counter these with facts should not quote me, my mood is so bad I could curse anyone who mention me with shallow logic.

Such a disgraceful defence. Keep shifting d goal post.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jun 03, 2020
Macphenson:
Buhari has vowed that he must wreck Nigeria before he leaves by 2023.

The annoying part of it is that he is finding useful idiots like Femi Gbajiabiamila and Ahmed Lawan to perpetuate his evil act .

Shouldn't they have ask him to account for all the money he has borrowed so far?

Which projects have they gone into?

They keep approving him borrowing away the future of generations yet unborn.

Have they really asked him to show us how these loans will be repaid?

He fully implemented TSA, increased custom duty, introduced POS charges, stamp duty , increased VAT to 7.5,.

What is Buhari doing with all these money, ?


Buhari is a disaster and a virus more disasterous than Corona..

Buhari is not qualified to be a Whatsapp administrator yet Tinibu because of his selfish reason foisted him on hapless Nigerians.
No matter how much they wreck the country happiness will always be far from them
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Igbo6(m): 3:08pm On Jun 03, 2020
BeLookingIDIOT:

Explain how he turned the so-called 3rd fastest growing economy to whatever in 4yrs?
Keep on deceiving yourself
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Thonypadua(m): 3:50pm On Jun 03, 2020
Xposed2020:

You hv won a voucher of #500. Lemme know how u wanna retrieve it.
should I send my account number or phone number?
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 5:10pm On Jun 03, 2020
You did not answer the question. What did Yorubas do when Gowon broke up the western region?
isthatso:


Actually it is on record that the North planned to break away from Nigeria after the coup. It was the British who persuaded them to keep Nigeria intact. The North feared domination by the south especially the Ibos as they were way behind in development. You must remmember that the North did not win the elections, they formed a government by forming an alliance with Zik. Awo offered to form an alliance with Zik but he refused because he thought the less educated Northerners would be easier to dominate. It is in this alliance with the North that the Northerners realized the Ibos were trying to dominate them in the civil service.

As far as yorubas, what does this have to do with yorubas? Did we plan secession with you? We had no problem with Nigeria, we had the benefit of being part of Nigeria and the autonomy of controlling our own resources and development just like every other region, till Ibo greed came and scattered everything.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 5:15pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
You did not answer the question. What did Yorubas do when Gowon broke up the western region?

Of what relevance is that? It was a military govt what could we do? We should go to war and let 2 million people die?
We did nothing... so what? Did you do anything when they broke up Easter region into Anambra and IMO?

Western region wasn’t broken up to spite or control yorubas. It was broken up because Gowon could not break up just the Easter region only. So he broke up the North, wester and Easter regions. Of all the regions the western region was the only one broken into 2. All other regions were broken up into at least 3. Of course the Midwest remained as it had just been careated.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 5:25pm On Jun 03, 2020
You said the Igbos caused the breakup of the country but the Igbos resisted the breakup by going to war and you guys did nothing. The only reason many people died in the war was because Yoruba did not resisted the breakup. If they had done, there is no way Gowon will fight the East and West at the same time but would have negotiated with the regions. With Yorubas not resisting, it became 2 against 1. A war that has not started at the time and you already saw casualties in millions? Yorubas should have resisted the breakup of the western region,
courage is a virtue!
isthatso:


Of what relevance is that? It was a military govt what could we do? We should go to war and let 2 million people die?
We did nothing... so what? Did you do anything when they broke up Easter region into Anambra and IMO?

Western region wasn’t broken up to spite or control yorubas. It was broken up because Gowon could not break up just the Easter region only. So he broke up the North, wester and Easter regions. Of all the regions the western region was the only one broken into 2. All other regions were broken up into at least 3. Of course the Midwest remained as it had just been careated.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
You said the Igbos caused the breakup of the country but the Igbos resisted the breakup by going to war and you guys did nothing. The only reason many people died in the war was because Yoruba did not resisted the breakup. If they had done, there is no way Gowon will fight the East and West at the same time but would have negotiated with the regions. With Yorubas not resisting, it became 2 against 1. A war that has not started at the time and you already saw casualties in millions? Yorubas should have resisted the breakup of the western region,
courage is a virtue!

Continue to delude yourself with the stories your forefathers gave their children for your failure in the war nobody is going to tell his child he messed up. But the facts are there if you care to read independent accounts. the day you are prepared to acknowledge your shortcomings is the day you start the path of progress..

1. Ojukwu left Nigeria not because he wanted to keep Nigeria together but because he feared losing control of the oil in today’s SS region.

2. He deliberately let many die because he felt it would help garner international support. This is on record by many international agencies that Ojukwu rejected food aid while he and the Igbo elite fed well.

3. Ex Biafra officers have said that ojukwu planned to invade Ibadan and Lagos.

4. Yoruba never promised to fight a war with ibos. What Awo said was if the ibos succeed in seceding , then we will secede too. You did not success succeed so we did not renege on our promise.

You need to read the definition of courage. Gra gra and heading into fights without strategic thinking is not courage but stupidity. What have you gained for your “courage”? You lost your region, you lost control over the oil, you lost financial autonomy, you lost millions of lives, you scared generations of your people, you turned yourselves into second class citizens politically all to say you have courage? 50 years after the war and minority has seen presidency before you....when will you learn?

A fool will fight at any provocation, it takes bravery to be patient and wait to strike when the conditions best favor you and even greater courage to realize when a battle is beyond you. Like I said earlier your biggest problem with is also your virtue in business is that everything must first be about you.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 5:52pm On Jun 03, 2020
You are emotional. You said Igbos cause the breakup of the country. And I asked why didn't Yorubas resisted the breakup if they never wanted it. I never asked for epistles, just answer the question. Forget about Ojukwu, Eastern region, the war, resources in the East(which came after the division). Speak on why Yorubas never wanted the breakup of the Western region yet did nothing.
isthatso:


Continue to delude yourself with the stories your forefathers gave their children for your failure in the war nobody is going to tell his child he messed up. But the facts are there if you care to read independent accounts. the day you are prepared to acknowledge your shortcomings is the day you start the path of progress..

1. Ojukwu left Nigeria not because he wanted to keep Nigeria together but because he feared losing control of the oil in today’s SS region.

2. He deliberately let many die because he felt it would help garner international support. This is on record by many international agencies that Ojukwu rejected food aid while he and the Igbo elite fed well.

3. Ex Biafra officers have said that ojukwu planned to invade Ibadan and Lagos.

4. Yoruba never promised to fight a war with ibos. What Awo said was if the ibos succeed in seceding , then we will secede too. You did not success succeed so we did not renege on our promise.

You need to read the definition of courage. Gra gra and heading into fights without strategic thinking is not courage but stupidity. What have you gained for your “courage”? You lost your region, you lost control over the oil, you lost financial autonomy, you lost millions of lives, you scared generations of your people, you turned yourselves into second class citizens politically all to say you have courage? 50 years after the war and minority has seen presidency before you....when will you learn?
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
You are emotional. You said Igbos cause the breakup of the country. And I asked why didn't Yorubas resisted the breakup if they never wanted it. I never asked for epistles, just answer the question. For get about Ojukwu, Eastern region, the war, resources in the East(which came after the division). Speak on why Yorubas never wanted the breakup of the Western region yet did nothing.


you lack understanding, I said they caused the break up of the country because they let in the military! Without the military the north could never appropriate resources, create states at will and these are the things that derailed us as a country. They struck because you cannot settle disagreements peacefully or patiently. A trait that continues today. If you don’t get your way all hell must break loose. The 1st time the SE has not had influence at the Centre and see the divisions in the country. Other regions have seen decades of non representation at the center and they didn’t bring the country to its knees.

The original sin was the Nzeogwu coup, the massacre of northern leaders, the distrust and derailed trajectory of the country that followed and persists till today stemmed from that. Once you understand that you understand why Nigeria is why it is today. Every thing else that happened after, the civil war, resource control, no ibo president, north controlling oil, mothern obsession with political power, going to Abuja for federal allocation, quota system etc stems from that. EVERYTHING!!!!
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 6:04pm On Jun 03, 2020
Are the military not humans? You think if all the westerners in the Army abandoned the army like the Easterners did, Gowon would be bold enough to follow through on states creation? Truth is the Yorubas wanted an alliance with the North at all cost and were willing to do anything! You guys ganged up with the North to ruin the country just to spite the Igbos. Even today you're resisting restructuring because you are afraid the Igbos will be more favored in a restructured Nigeria but pretending to be prorestructuring
isthatso:



you lack understanding, I said they caused the break up of the country because they let in the military! Without the military the north could never appropriate resources, create states at will and these are the things that derailed us as a country. They struck because you cannot settle disagreements peacefully or patiently. A trait that continues today. If you don’t get your way all hell must break loose. The 1st time the SE has not had influence at the Centre and see the divisions in the country. Other regions have seen decades of non representation at the center and they didn’t bring the country to its knees.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
Are the military not humans? You think if all the westerners in the Army abandoned the army like the Easterners did, Gowon would be bold enough to follow through on states creation? Truth is the Yorubas wanted an alliance with the North at all cost and were willing to do anything! You guys ganged up with the North to ruin the country just to spite the Igbos. Even today you're resisting restructuring because you are afraid the Igbos will be more favored in a restructured Nigeria but pretending to be prorestructuring

You seem to think your fight was our fight. You decide to fight for something that only concerns you why should we join you? Abeg come and mad man o! Are we the ones that killed Sardinia and Balewa, that the north are retaliating against?

Abel I am done

Btw ibos have the most to lose in Nigeria breaks up today. All your businesses need the Nigerian market and you don’t have enough land to feed yourselves.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 6:20pm On Jun 03, 2020
Igbos have the most to loose yet are at the forefront? So why are you afraid of breakup if you have less to loose?
You dont seem to understand simple questions. You said you never wanted the breakup of Western region but when I asked what did you do when it was broken up, you keep mentioning Igbo this Igbo that. You said the fight was not your fight but your region was broken up but you did nothing then turned around to claim we caused your region to get broken up as a collateral damage. You never cared about being broken up as far as the East is broken up, you were fine.
isthatso:


You seem to think your fight was our fight. You decide to fight for something that only concerns you why should we join you? Abeg come and mad man o! Are we the ones that killed Sardinia and Balewa, that the north are retaliating against?

Abel I am done

Btw ibos have the most to lose in Nigeria breaks up today. All your businesses need the Nigerian market and you don’t have enough land to feed yourselves.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 6:24pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
Igbos have the most to loose yet are at the forefront? So why are you afraid of breakup if you have less to loose?
You dont seem to understand simple questions. You said you never wanted the breakup of Western region but when I asked what did you do when it was broken up, you keep mentioning Igbo this Igbo that. You said the fight was not your fight but your region was broken up but you did nothing then turned around to claim we caused your region to get broken up as a collateral damage. You never cared about being broken up as far as the East is broken up, you were fine.


You need to start to learn to separate what you want to think I said with what I actually said. Please quote me and show where I said we are afraid of breakup? Sw will be the best off if Nigeria breaks up today...fact!!!

Forefront of what? As usual you act based on emotions, chest beating, ego and not not sense and strategy. Same reason you are worse off today than in 1966/ q1967 for all your “bravery”


You want Biafra, you want Biafra, none of you have thought what will happen to your assets in Nigeria, your markets, how will you feed, where is the land? Same way as you declare war and then think how to fight and kill 2 million. You like to brag you own 70% of Lagos and Abuja, you think you will have your own country and the reminants of Nigeria will allow you to keep your assets? I swear you people sometimes......
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 6:29pm On Jun 03, 2020
In the grand scheme of things what you said doesn't really matter. Everybody knows that you guys are against Biafra or secession. I am not talking of few persons but the majority of Westerners
isthatso:



You need to start to learn to separate what you want to think I said with what I actually said. Please quote me and show where I said we are afraid of breakup? Sw will be the best off if Nigeria breaks up today...fact!!!

Forefront of what? At usual you act based on emotions not sense and strategy. Same reason you are worse off today than in 1966/ q1967 for all your “bravery”
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
In the grand scheme of things what you said doesn't really matter. Everybody knows that you guys are against Biafra or secession. I am not talking of few persons but the majority of Westerners

The only people against secession are the Northerners. We unlike you are smart enough to know we are checkmated...thanks to you and we don’t fight battles and endanger people lives for a battle we can’t win.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 6:47pm On Jun 03, 2020
The only reason North has power to fight is because they are sure of your support. If the North are that powerful, they could have defeated bokoharam, bandits. If the West declare secession today, the North will be forced to negotiate with you because they know the Easterners are already on standby to go. When Yugoslavia and Soviet union broke up, not a single shot was fired because majority left at the same time. If the West leaves, the East leaves, the Lower Niger leaves, middle belt leaves same time, who will the core North fight? Courage is a virtue!
isthatso:


The only people against secession are the Northerners. We unlike you are smart enough to know we are checkmated...thanks to you and we don’t fight battles and endanger people lives for a battle we can’t win.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jun 03, 2020
DMerciful:
The only reason North has power to fight is because they are sure of your support. If the North are that powerful, they could have defeated bokoharam, bandits. If the West declare secession today, the North will be forced to negotiate with you because they know the Easterners are already on standby to go. When Yugoslavia and Soviet union broke up, not a single shot was fired because majority left at the same time. If the West leaves, the East leaves, the Lower Niger leaves, middle belt leaves same time, who will the core North fight? Courage is a virtue!

Fight your battle yourself and leave us out of it.

After you put all of us in a hole, after you spent the last 5 years insulting us and showing your true colors, you are now looking for allies...yeye dey smell. We have helped you by creating regional police. Nobody trusts you and nobody will ever align with you.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Muroko(m): 7:00pm On Jun 03, 2020
This guy is trying to sell this country ooo!
:-(:-(
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Smilingjuhn(m): 7:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
TheManhattan:

Common how do you mean nothing has been done since 2016.. nothing!!! . No infrastructure , roads, no progress on the railroad or the 2nd Niger bridge. Look I don't have problem with people criticising their government but do it with facts and honour. Don't just jump on the band wagon. And don't give me that GEJ started it bullshit as well, all we have been praying for is continuity in government. As long as one government started and the next follows up that's what matters to me and it should matter to you too.

Categorically, tell us the things the current government has done with reference to the things they promised to do for Nigerians when they come into power.

Mind you, billions of dollars have been borrowed since inception of this government to date. Your detailed list of the things the government has done should go in line with the amount they have borrowed.

I guess from the list, you can have a basis to support the government in this discussion.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by DMerciful(m): 7:03pm On Jun 03, 2020
Now the truth is starring you in the face. You have been shouting millions will die unnecessarily and I showed you how powerful USSR couldn't fire a single shot because over 8 groups left at the same time and all you had to say is to resort to that age long divide weakness of fight your battles and i fight mine thereby giving the North the opportunity to pick on a group to deal with. Yorubas are not ready, just pretending to want a change!
isthatso:


Fight your battle yourself and leave us out of it.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jun 03, 2020
Thonypadua:
should I send my account number or phone number?
I'll prefer phone.
But delete after 2min.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by ajl: 8:40pm On Jun 03, 2020
$22 Billion? Time to breakaway fast from Nigeria so that when time to pay come, China will know which of their customer to face, Nigeria. Not Biafra and not sure not a new Yoruba nation or a SS nation.
Re: Reps Approve Buhari’s $22.7 Billion Loan Request. South East Reps Kick by Thonypadua(m): 10:01pm On Jun 03, 2020
Xposed2020:

I'll prefer phone.
But delete after 2min.

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