Smartb0y:


Do you mind expantiating on this?

Tonnyray:
My sincere condolences bro.

Level-headed thinking folks already concluded “trolls” should be ignored, why is that so difficult for you?
What happened to the quintessential “anytime I see his post I just scroll down”?
Your histrionics don’t move me. This ain’t King0g.
Save the drama for your babymama.

Tonnyray:
Thanks, I at least appreciate the maturity in your clarification. That scariest and darkest is classically manifested by damaged and or mentally unstable women. It's not the norm, not even with choosing MO. Not anywhere. I believe we can at least shake hands on that.
Cheers bro.

Smartb0y:
you'd have smashed like 10 boys before you meet a normal girl

heartofcity12:


That’s your opinion

teebagy:
It is not an opinion it is a fact ur choice to believe it or not

Ketapu:


I think I've explained in my reply where I differentiated between wanting and needing a lady.

If you are already a high value man, for example, you are already a popular celebrity, you are very rich and everyone knows it or can see it, or you already hold a significant position in the society, definitely, you don't need to do much work in getting women. A lot of women will come to you, both the good and the bad. It is left to you to different.

If you don't belong to any of the categories of guys I listed above, you have works to do if you want to have different options for females.

Ketapu:
Rollo that said "let girls come to you" was also the one that further wrote "if you do pursue, do so in a calculated way."

In essence, as you are letting girls come to you (waiting for green lights), you too can also approach the girls you like (cold approaching). I'm in support of both.

Ketapu:
Why are you focusing on one part of the advice and neglecting the other part that supports going for the ladies you like IN A CALCULATED WAY?

Can you also explain what he meant by "if you do pursue, do so in a carefully calculated way: pursue and retreat, pull and push"

Ketapu:
I have definitely showed in my comments that even though I cold approach, I use the tactics of "pursue and retreat, pull and push."

That tactics work well on ladies that pretend they don't like you.

For those ladies, show them you want them by wooing and telling them your mind (i.e pull). If they start pretending, leave them alone (i.e push).

I know at least 4 ladies who contacted me between 6 months and 1 year after I PUSHED them out of my life when they started playing games with me. Even though I blocked them on all channels of communication, these ladies still used a different phone number to contact me months later after they noticed I'm not ready to unblock them.

That is an example of pulling and pushing.

Ketapu:
I also explained yesterday that Rollo exposed the feminine imperative to give the power to choose to only women. That feminine imperative don't want you to have the ability to choose.
They don't want you to have options. A man without option is a powerless man in the sexual market place.

Waiting for only greenlights is perfect for limiting your options. You are enabling women to be the only choosers in the sexual market place.

When you are only waiting for green lights before you approach a lady, you are unconsciously supporting that feminine imperative.

Ketapu:
Let me ask you: How many ladies give you green lights per day, week, month or even year? How many of those green lights have you approached?

Ketapu:
The major reason I eventually took the green lights argument seriously was because most guys here saying wait for green lights ARE JUST TOO AFRAID TO COLD APPROACH. THEY ARE JUST HIDING BEHIND THE CURTAIN OF WAITING FOR GREEN LIGHTS.

If you see a lady you like and she is not giving any green lights, approach her to see how things go. Don't be afraid to take your chance.

In his book, Rollo also advice to spin plates before you finally commit. Spinning plates means having different options of females.

Please, go to page 86 of his book, The Rational Male. He explained "the plate theory" there.

I don't see how you will have different plates if you are not putting in the efforts yourself.

So, yeah.
Let girls come to you (waiting for green light)
You too should go to girls you like (cold approach).
Don't use "waiting for green light" to cover up your fear to cold approach.

Ketapu:
Don't let women be the only choosers in the sexual market place. You too should have the ability to choose.

Ketapu:
Lastly, concerning genuine desire. Rollo also wrote in his book that: Genuine desire is non-negotiable.

When a lady has genuine desire for you, she will make everything easy for you. Whether you cold approach or you approach after green light, a lady that has genuine desire for you will let you know as soon as possible that she share similar interests with you.

If she gives you green lights and you approach and woo her, she will accept without any issue.

If you cold approach a lady and you tell her your mind, the lady will let you know immediately that she also shares similar interest with you.

I have met both type of ladies and I still connects with them till today.

Ketapu:
And what do you mean by trial and error? I see what you're trying to do. You guys are quite funny in trying to disprove cold approaching.

Is approaching a lady after she gave you greenlight not trial and error? Or have you not heard about guys who got rejected after they saw the so-called greenlights? I've read several times on this thread where guys got rejected after they saw the green lights.

You definitely can't change my mind concerning cold approaching. Stop trying.

heartofcity12:


Seconded. I always look forward to your comments. You nailed this again, more wisdom Skept.

Truvelisback:
I have this conviction in me that Greenwood is innocent abt the rape. His gf might want to add that up to the assault, just to nail him on the cross. My surprise is that Benjamin Mendy who was found guilty was never tread this manner neither was Odoi of was a suspect and accused of assault and rape treated this manner. Why is Greenwood's case different, that he is even treat like he is murderer?

Skepticus:


You are welcome, bro.

You all are saying the same thing bro. Egos get mixed up in a lot of discussion like this and gets it more complicated than it is. I stay away from them for this reasons till everyone has calmed down.

Skepticus:


You are welcome, bro.

You all are saying the same thing bro. Egos get mixed up in a lot of discussion like this and gets it more complicated than it is. I stay away from them for this reasons till everyone has calmed down.

Except, you really don't go out that much, you'll get to deal with strangers on a daily and definitely, the strangers would also be women. A lot of time, I meet them and approach them when they have something to do with my hustle or some other purpose they may serve to me, outside of sexual attraction. Women are shallow in thinking and emotional which is why the halo effect works on them a lot than on men. Guys on average, look deeper. A reason why a guy may not bother much on your appearance, as long as you approach him respectfully and you are competent. Women do. I would usually be on my best appearance (not tacky and not overly flashy. Flashiness works too but be used sparingly not to attract gold-digging time wasters). Women are usually receptive when they see this and some might be downright nasty attempting to shoot you down. I guage the body language like facial cues and body openness for reception. Once she is grumpy and hostile, I'm out. Even at that, I don't usually follow up and delete the numbers afterwards. On rare occasions, I did bed one on the day we met. It was a day after she just broke up with her boyfriend and was emotionally down. We never exchanged contacts.

Cold Approach definitely has its pros but a lower success rate than hot and warm approaches. It must be used sparingly and with caution, so you don't look creepy and get "me too-ed". It should only be done with women who are open and confirmed to be eager to continue with the interaction. Approaching them without gauging their body language and eagerness to continue interaction is not sensible and in some highly gynocentric societies, a recipe for disaster, being accused of sexual harassment or falsely, as attempted rape etc.

I find the earlier PUA of seeking out 100 girls in a week and hoping for that one that would drop her panties, unreasonable. But then, it can work for guys who have a lot of time on their hands and just coming up in the dating game. It should be done with sense, as women are generally not worth that time.

Skepticus:


You are welcome, bro.

You all are saying the same thing bro. Egos get mixed up in a lot of discussion like this and gets it more complicated than it is. I stay away from them for this reasons till everyone has calmed down.

Except, you really don't go out that much, you'll get to deal with strangers on a daily and definitely, the strangers would also be women. A lot of time, I meet them and approach them when they have something to do with my hustle or some other purpose they may serve to me, outside of sexual attraction. Women are shallow in thinking and emotional which is why the halo effect works on them a lot than on men. Guys on average, look deeper. A reason why a guy may not bother much on your appearance, as long as you approach him respectfully and you are competent. Women do. I would usually be on my best appearance (not tacky and not overly flashy. Flashiness works too but be used sparingly not to attract gold-digging time wasters). Women are usually receptive when they see this and some might be downright nasty attempting to shoot you down. I guage the body language like facial cues and body openness for reception. Once she is grumpy and hostile, I'm out. Even at that, I don't usually follow up and delete the numbers afterwards. On rare occasions, I did bed one on the day we met. It was a day after she just broke up with her boyfriend and was emotionally down. We never exchanged contacts.

Cold Approach definitely has its pros but a lower success rate than hot and warm approaches. It must be used sparingly and with caution, so you don't look creepy and get "me too-ed". It should only be done with women who are open and confirmed to be eager to continue with the interaction. Approaching them without gauging their body language and eagerness to continue interaction is not sensible and in some highly gynocentric societies, a recipe for disaster, being accused of sexual harassment or falsely, as attempted rape etc.

I find the earlier PUA of seeking out 100 girls in a week and hoping for that one that would drop her panties, unreasonable. But then, it can work for guys who have a lot of time on their hands and just coming up in the dating game. It should be done with sense, as women are generally not worth that time.

Skepticus:
Brainless trolls

machote:
Yes, even "damaged and or mentally unstable women" like you said still "choose" the men that they want all the same(you can't dodge this point) and to be honest, I don't know if those women are mentally damaged like you said too, so I can't conclude on that with you. (We both have no clue about their personal lives). Also, my initial post was never about condoning violence on women(I forgot to add this). Cheers.

Winnerly:


It’s like this really. The girl sits down in a corner and hypergamistically draws up a list/criteria for a partner. She then uses her hypergamy lense to assess potential males that fit the bill. She then starts with the fake smiles and all what not so her victim can come to her. If this isn’t the height of manipulation then I don’t know what is.

The curve ball here is, if the chosen signal is based on genuine desire, then it’s great. If the chosen signal is sent because she sees you but you don’t know her and you would have chosen her if she were within your line of sight, then it’s great.

If the chosen signal is sent because of lifestyle reasons, then woe betide the chosen.

As a man, where is your own criteria? Do you even have a list of attributes you want in a partner? It’s all about you, Bleep what she wants.

Many guys may settle for less if they wait to be chosen.

A man shouldn’t be taken. He should be doing the taking.

While doing the choosing, donot flash wealth, come as you are and save all rewards for the one who recognizes you in plain outfit.

Even Jesus rewarded the disciple who recognized him to be the son of God when all others called him different names. Jesus could have appeared in his full glory but he came plain

Note : I’m an advocate of MGTOW or atleast, a very high degree of sexual discipline. It will pay you but if you find yourself playing the field, do so in moderation and do it red pilled and do so as a successful man but show up plain.

dontai:
Rubbish talk from Reno.

Calibrator:
Based on my own personal observation, the only dual factors stopping most married folks from going sexually wild is the fear of being caught and the fear of their public reputation being tarnished.


If circumstances permit and absolute discretion is guaranteed, every single married man and woman will most likely cheat


I have made peace with the fact that I am only responsible for my actions and the best I can do is react to the actions/inactions of others, I can't control what they do, I suggest that you all take the same approach in situations where daughters of Eve are involved.



Shalom!

Calibrator:
Where is the stoicism being preached from page one? I doubt most Redpillers here have ever been in the midst of true patriarchs (elderly folks) and seen them argue and state their arguments and counter arguments on sensitive issues, they argue like men, devoid of emotions and bitching.
Lastly, check out the bolded and live and let live.
After all said and done, we will all log out of the forum and face our respective realities offline, out there lies the consequences of whatever route and ideology we choose to follow in life, redpillers, wannabe redpillers and bystanders whatever flag you align with.
Men shouldn't argue with emotions.
Shalom!

DieRich5:
1)he played in man utd
2)people already hate am for not passing ball to Cr7 or other (Cr7 get many followers)
3) the simp/ female hater join too

Winnerly:


It’s like this really. The girl sits down in a corner and hypergamistically draws up a list/criteria for a partner. She then uses her hypergamy lense to assess potential males that fit the bill. She then starts with the fake smiles and all what not so her victim can come to her. If this isn’t the height of manipulation then I don’t know what is.

The curve ball here is, if the chosen signal is based on genuine desire, then it’s great. If the chosen signal is sent because she sees you but you don’t know her and you would have chosen her if she were within your line of sight, then it’s great.

If the chosen signal is sent because of lifestyle reasons, then woe betide the chosen.

As a man, where is your own criteria? Do you even have a list of attributes you want in a partner? It’s all about you, Bleep what she wants.

Many guys may settle for less if they wait to be chosen.

A man shouldn’t be taken. He should be doing the taking.

While doing the choosing, donot flash wealth, come as you are and save all rewards for the one who recognizes you in plain outfit.

Even Jesus rewarded the disciple who recognized him to be the son of God when all others called him different names. Jesus could have appeared in his full glory but he came plain

Note : I’m an advocate of MGTOW or atleast, a very high degree of sexual discipline. It will pay you but if you find yourself playing the field, do so in moderation and do it red pilled and do so as a successful man but show up plain.

sinfultrust:
Is the zodiac sign real or another shit show