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Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 5:20pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
livingchrist:You workers of iniquity really love vague terms like "faith" and "belief" right, because they give you room to exploit to enable you justify your works of iniquity. But Jesus always knew it was possible that some workers of iniquity would want to take advantage of that, hence He addressed that loophole and clearly defined what He meant by "believe in Me" to ensure that workers of iniquity like you don't have that chance. John 8:30-31 (KJV) As he spake these words, many believed on him. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; So as you can see, belief or faith in Jesus without the obedience of His Word is nothing but an illusion. It's only exists in your imagination! You can stroll down the passage to see where the same people who were said to have believed took stones up to cast at Jesus. That's why anyone who believe must keep His Words to confirm it, because that's what distinguishes the true believers from the false ones. If you and your fellow workers of iniquity that claim to believe and have faith in Jesus were there, I'm sure you'd also be among those who picked up stones to throw at Jesus because you're false believers. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 8:33pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
livingchrist:You are saved through obedience of the commandment given by Jesus Christ wherein He declared that those who will believe in Him( trust He is who he says He is, are baptized. and eat of His body and drink of His blood) will be saved from the condemnation of sin which is Death, and in its place given eternal life(grace from Death). That obedience to those commands given by Jesus Christ is what amounts to your faith .i.e. you do works to realize this. The good(Righteous) works come after you have proven yourself worthy, not before. Also, the "Sound message" that James talks of is the Word of God .I.e. the very teachings of Jesus Christ and not the concoctions you fill yourselves with from the mouths of those false teachers and prophets our there. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 8:59pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by livingchrist: 9:45pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:to have eternal life means to be saved from everlasting punishment Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by livingchrist: 9:53pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:Of course obedience to Christ is what differentiate a true believer from a false believer, A false beliver is an unbeliver dressed in a religious garb, The Jews who wanted to stone Jesus didnt really believe who Jesus said he is. Jesus called them children of the devil |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 10:37pm On Apr 28, 2021 |
livingchrist:The author of the Gospel according to Matthew is a different author from the one of the Gospel according to John, so it makes sense that the languages used are not the same but the core message remains the same. Now, if we consider Matthew 25 vs 31- 46, the one thing that quickly jumps out is that those who are mentioned are "saved" by their good(righteous) works whereas those who are condemned are instead condemned by their lack of good(righteous) works. And if you note, this "saving" does not take place while they are here on earth but instead after the return of Jesus Christ. So, are you sure this is the same Salvation spoken of by Jesus Christ which is meant to come before the end? |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by livingchrist: 8:22am On Apr 29, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Mathew 25vv46, says the righteous are the ones to have eternal life, While the wicked will go into eternal punishment. The only way to escape eternal death is through faith in Jesus. Jesus said those who believe on him will never see death! This death is not the normal death that happens to people but an eternal punishment. John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Note, the word ''shall never taste death'' which means this death is different from the death Adam brought which everyman partakes righteous or not righteous. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 8:36am On Apr 29, 2021 |
livingchrist:Everlasting punishment as referred to in the Gospel of Matthew is not Death as referred to in the Gospel of John . You misconstrue what is written only I am not sure if you do it intentionally or not. How you arrived at everlasting punishment amounting to Death is beyond me when in John 3 vs 16-21, the author explains in detail that Death, as written of in the Gospel according to John, isn't eternal or everlasting in any way or form. It is instead linked to the Death given by God from the beginning. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by FarmTech(m): 9:49am On Apr 29, 2021 |
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Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by FarmTech(m): 9:56am On Apr 29, 2021 |
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Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 1:49pm On Apr 29, 2021 |
FarmTech:Hmm... |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 6:39am On Apr 30, 2021 |
FarmTech:Lol! |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 7:05pm On Apr 30, 2021 |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr1: 6:54am On May 01, 2021 |
livingchrist:If you truly knew this, then why are you not telling people in clear terms to obey the teachings of Christ as Christ did, instead you're using vague terms as faith and belief which many workers or iniquity exploit. As you can see, what Jesus did revealed the evil thoughts in the hearts of those false believers, which is what your vague term of faith and belief cannot achieve, so if you're a church owner, those false believers would become part of the church despite being false believers. Except that's what you intend to achieve by your approach. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by livingchrist: 11:00am On May 01, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:the essence of revealing the evil of men is so that they accept the grace of God. Faith is the only way to recieve the gift of God, which is eternal life through Jesus christ. Soory, I dont own church, the idea of owning a church is not from Jesus. Churches that are not establish in grace are soaked deep in hypocrisy and sin, the flesh is having a filled day there. While churches that are established in grace are blossoming in righteousness and joy in the holy ghost. The gospel of grace brings freedom, righteousness and joy, This is the kingdom of God. Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. 1 Like |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 2:57pm On May 01, 2021 |
livingchrist:Wrong! A "false" believer IS NOT an unbeliever!. There is no such thing as a "false" believer. Recall that even the demons and devils believe, yes they do and they are eternally graced too .I.e. they also have eternal life. Only that like those who believe but refuse to obey, they are slated to spend that eternal life(grace) in Hell at the end. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by orunto27: 5:53pm On May 01, 2021 |
Jesus SEEDS are sown in the Spirit and in the Kingdom of God. All Born Agains shall inherit it. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Nobody: 11:52am On May 03, 2021 |
BassReeves: I just ignored you when I read this rubbish. It still beat my imagination why you still mentioning me since you don't want me to be hash on myself. You don't deserve my time. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by BassReeves: 2:17pm On May 03, 2021 |
soulpeppersoup:/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ soulpeppersoup:It is the rubbish you spewed out, seen reproduced up there, is what we've being trying to help you clean up and clear away soulpeppersoup:Love, will not let me give up on you, beloved, because we want you to see reasonably. You can, and you will, time given soulpeppersoup: I am showing you love and creating time for you more than what you deserve hence why letting you know that, one, can be a son of God and have the nature of animal. You can see, taking Matthew 10:16 as a study case, to be, one of out many examples in Bible, of Jesus, in this instance, using four different nature of animals to teach about how it is possible to be a child/son/daughter/man/woman of God and have the nature of animal(s). Need I say more, need I dig deeper than this? |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:51pm On May 03, 2021 |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:31pm On May 03, 2021 |
BassReeves: jesusjnr2020: jesusjnr1: BassReeves: jesusjnr2020: |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by Nobody: 11:24am On May 06, 2021 |
BassReeves: Is this what you thought no one can take in? Anyway I no blame you. In the sphere of knowledge, black man dey always think he knows it all. Hence, will be filling like peacock. What you pointed out there is a comparison. Go look up the meaning of nature in the dictionary and compare it to the context I used it. |
Re: Since Jesus Had No Seed, No Man Inherited His Righteousness by BassReeves: 2:05pm On May 07, 2021 |
soulpeppersoup:Correction. You might not want to take to see the error of your view, beloved soulpeppersoup:Why not stand in front of a mirror, and repeat this comment. Smh soulpeppersoup:Duh, so what you did wasn't comparison then soulpeppersoup:Romans 3:22 'And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction,' 2 Corinthians 5:21 'He (i.e. God) made Christ who knew no sin to [judicially] be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we would become the righteousness of God [that is, we would be made acceptable to Him and placed in a right relationship with Him by His gracious lovingkindness].' You make me laugh even when I am not in the mood to smile. I love the way you make me laugh, like no one else. I love posters like you who can and who make me laugh. I love your silly side, it masks a multitude of ills If you know understandably what Romans 3:22 and 2 Corinthians 5:21 conveys, you wouldn't want to rubbish a behaviour that isnt exclusive to animals alone and try so hard to suggest that the love between two is animal behaviour. Smh |
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