MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi it's like oteneaaron no care whether Jesus is real or not na me gangan be hin problem o!

Jesus na oteneaaron problem or e dey fight with the upper lips

MaxInDHouse na oteneaaron problem and e dey fight with the lower lips

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi it's like oteneaaron no care whether Jesus is real or not na me gangan be hin problem o!

MaxInDHouse:

They were all eye Witnesses but the event each person saw differs from what they heard from others who saw things Jesus did in the the presence of the writers.

cornelboy:
I have asked him more than 5 times but he's hiding face



It's your friend Achorladey that can't speak for himself.
He believes in Christ and even defended the Trinity doctrine.

I don't think you know him.
He's on your side because Max is a JW.

oteneaaron:

Lol.
I don't even understand Yoruba to begin with.
This back and forth has become very mentally draining.
I asked for archeological proof of Jesus existence, and I got nothing from you.
I asked for eye witness accounts and you mentioned the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.
But when we analyzed your "eye witness" proof, we found a lot discrepancies -
1. If these were "eye witness" accounts why do they contradict each other? It is almost as if each writer was referring to a different Jesus.
And this was your answer:
Till now, I find it very hard to wrap my head around the above reply to explain the contradictions we see in the Gospels.
2. It is a FACT that the first Gospel ever written was the Gospel of Mark.
But was Mark an actual disciple of Jesus to begin with?
The answer is NO.
So how can a man who was not even a disciple of Jesus to begin with, be an eye witness?
3. The other Gospels of Mathew, Luke and John have been proven to be plagiarized copies of Mark's Gospel and it is also a FACT that they were written AFTER Mark.
So how can we depend on the "eye witness" accounts of Mathew, Luke and John which we know were copied from another "eye witness" account of Mark, who we have already identified to not even be a disciple of Jesus in the first place?
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Why so many contradictions and discrepancies?
If Jesus was a real figure in history, finding actual archeological evidence should never be an issue.
And eye witness accounts shouldn't have to contradict each other.
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I can't keep repeating myself over and over again.
I gave you an easy to follow summary of my points yesterday.
Why don't you pick each one and debunk?
Wouldn't that be easier than this merry go round you are currently on?
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MaxInDHouse:

They were all eye Witnesses but the event each person saw differs from what they heard from others who saw things Jesus did in the the presence of the writers.

cornelboy:

I have asked him more than 5 times but he's hiding face
It's your friend Achorladey that can't speak for himself.
He believes in Christ and even defended the Trinity doctrine.
I don't think you know him.
He's on your side because Max is a JW.

oteneaaron:


There is only one way to put it -

Archoladey sees MaxInDHouse for who he really is.

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You mentioned on the other thread that you are not yet a baptized witness.

If you will at least listen to my advice, please take some time to do a very critical and honest research into the true history of the organization.

At least before you take the final step of becoming baptized.

I am even happy that you're an adult that has unrestricted access to the internet - not like the many children in their early teens who got baptized without understanding the true history of the organization they dedicated their lives to.

There is no harm in doing this, at least you can prove to yourself that you are actually making the right decision.

Cos once you emerge out of that water and dedicate your life to the JW organization, there is no going back.

And even if you insist you don't want to be a part of them anymore, you will automatically become an enemy to MaxInDHouse.

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This is just a friendly advice.

You can take it or leave it.

The choice is most definitely yours.

It's your friend Achorladey that can't speak for himself.

He believes in Christ and even defended the Trinity doctrine.

You mentioned on the other thread that you are not yet a baptized witness.

MaxInDHouse:


Please forget about the whole thing!
If it's about Jesus of Nazareth choose whatever you want to believe, it's not a compulsion that you and i agree on terms and conditions of historicity.
If i choose to believe what i read in the Bible but you choose to disbelieve that shouldn't make us enemies.
Remember this is about Jesus of Nazareth not MaxInDHouse.
Abeg Ìdọ̀bálẹ̀ mi rèé o!

MaxInDHouse:


He doesn't know what a challenge really means!

He first made this move but i ignored him since i noticed he doesn't believe in God, i knew it's going to be a time wasting.

But since he raised the issue here again and his so called friends are scared to stand up for their faith i decided to humiliate him along with his friends by demanding we do so on a fresh thread.

Today he could see for himself that it's all about things he believes against what i believe and not a research at all because he's just telling stories of what he chose to believe against the Bible nothing more!

MaxInDHouse:


Please forget about the whole thing!
If it's about Jesus of Nazareth choose whatever you want to believe, it's not a compulsion that you and i agree on terms and conditions of historicity.
If i choose to believe what i read in the Bible but you choose to disbelieve that shouldn't make us enemies.
Remember this is about Jesus of Nazareth not MaxInDHouse.
Abeg Ìdọ̀bálẹ̀ mi rèé o!

Please forget about the whole thing!

If i choose to believe what i read in the Bible but you choose to disbelieve that shouldn't make us enemies.

it's not a compulsion that you and i agree on terms and conditions of historicity.

They were all eye Witnesses but the event each person saw differs from what they heard from others who saw things Jesus did in the the presence of the writers.

oteneaaron:


Very well.

If you don't mind, I am still waiting for an explanation of how you "humiliated" me.

These were your exact words:

oteneaaron:

Very well.
If you don't mind, I am still waiting for an explanation of how you "humiliated" me.
These were your exact words:

achorladey:

Oga oteneaaron even the humiliation na empty boast.
He has to save his face though

MaxInDHouse:

I said i tender an APOLOGY for all the wahala i made you go through!
If Jesus is not real to you that's your own conclusion after reading the gospels mine may differ nah!

oteneaaron:

Why are you apologizing?
You never offended me.
I am asking you explain how you "humiliated" me.
Is that too much to ask?

MaxInDHouse:


It's TIRI much o!

I asked you a simple question and until now you refused to answer me and you're talking as if wahala no dey the matter!

Answer my question if you want me to believe you've not been offended:

Is this thread about Jesus of Nazareth or MaxInDHouse?

I want a straightforward answer then i will continue chatting with you normally but if you will not answer then wahala don dey Okpoko be that, make i run commot!

The best you can you do is show me proof from your extensive research that shows that -

1. Jesus really existed and is not a Mythical Figure,

2. Jesus really existed based on archeological findings, and

3. The life and teachings of Jesus is original and not copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt and many other Christ figures like Dionysus, Bacchus, Mythiras but to mention a few.

oteneaaron:

Why do you believe I am offended?
Why should I be offended in the first place?
You clearly said you HUMILIATED me.
That is a very strong statement, and I am asking to explain how you HUMILIATED me.
This thread from very beginning was to answer the question of whether Jesus was a real figure from history who existed, and not just a myth.
To make our debate straight forward, we had these points to cover -
Yesterday, you and I laid bare a summary of our points.
So what exactly is the bone of contention right now?
Or is asking you to explain how I was HUMILIATED by you too much to ask?

MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni abeg go and satisfy your curiosity elsewhere, if you don't believe Jesus is real no wahala me i believe.
At least if we're all Jehovah's Witnesses (Jesus' true disciples today) the below picture won't come to mind! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Jesus said to Jehovah's Witnesses:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

For your information killers are out there banning JWs in their country not because this group is causing any havoc but because they're making everyone to embrace PEACE!

achorladey:


Oga oteneaaron even the humiliation na empty boast.

He has to save his face though

oteneaaron:

This still does not explain how you HUMILIATED me.

MaxInDHouse:

KnownUnknown:

Those are pictures of American soldiers not Ukrainians.

MaxInDHouse:


Please leave acholardey that one is a snake that you can't figure out his true identity in the face of a serious debate.
Help me beg oteneaaron to forgive me because he's not taking this matter as i thought.
To me Jesus should be his primary assignment but from the look of things it's like he doesn't care whether Jesus exist or not, na me be hin problem o!

Please leave acholardey that one is a snake that you can't figure out his true identity in the face of a serious debate.

Help me beg oteneaaron to forgive me because he's not taking this matter as i thought.

To me Jesus should be his primary assignment but from the look of things it's like he doesn't care whether Jesus exist or not, na me be hin problem o!

Well if you think it's about MaxInDHouse i pity you because oteneaaron will not stop his fight against Jesus of Nazareth though you're also an atheist so it's none of your business!

he's bitterly mad at the way Jesus' name is been revered throughout the earth

So do you think if MaxInDHouse is no more today oteneaaron will drop his argument against the historicity Jesus of Nazareth?

Oteneaaron in his right frame of mind doesn't see himself as my enemy rather he's trying to save me from self delusion over a fictional character "JESUS OF NAZARETH"[/b

If MaxInDHouse die today oteneaaron will still have to [b]continue the fight against his enemy JESUS of Nazareth!

That's what it means to be an agent of the intelligence!

MaxInDHouse:


If truly you know you've not been HUMILIATED then leave that and answer my question:

Is this about Jesus of Nazareth or MaxInDHouse?

That is where your answer lies!
Because if it's about Jesus of Nazareth then it means you've not been HUMILIATED after all you never see Jesus follow you talk so whether he exist or not still remains unresolved.
But if it's about MaxInDHouse then you've been thoroughly HUMILIATED because with all your so called research i haven't found anything worth considering enough to debunk the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth!

MaxInDHouse:


Chai see insanity at it's peak!

achorladey:


Wa kekoo.



Shaku shaku research and stupidity is the same serious debate. Na real intelligence be this. . I know your mode of operation.

16 “Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard against men, for they will hand you over to local courts and they will scourge you in their synagogues.

Na men like your Jesus say make we watch out for since na to HUMILIATE people over nairaland you sabi.






Na ATHEISTS now why you dey seek his forgiveness? stupidity and shaku shaku peddling no sell again.



Confirmation that your intelligence don drown. Here is the evidence.......

11:36 am

Well if you think it's about MaxInDHouse i pity you because oteneaaron will not stop his fight against Jesus of Nazareth though you're also an atheist so it's none of your business!

1:51 pm

he's bitterly mad at the way Jesus' name is been revered throughout the earth

11:34 am

So do you think if MaxInDHouse is no more today oteneaaron will drop his argument against the historicity Jesus of Nazareth?


Oteneaaron in his right frame of mind doesn't see himself as my enemy rather he's trying to save me from self delusion over a fictional character "JESUS OF NAZARETH"[/b


If MaxInDHouse die today oteneaaron will still have to [b]continue the fight against his enemy JESUS of Nazareth!

Then you added

That's what it means to be an agent of the intelligence!

Scratch the intelligence part in the last quoted expression of yours and replace it with an agent of STUPIDITY peddling



Jehovah go airpyou

MaxInDHouse:


STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Acholardey, what do you say?
Is Jesus real or just a myth?

Bàbá ẹ fi àlọ́ sílẹ̀ kí ẹ dáhùn ìbéèrè!

MaxInDHouse:


Chai see insanity at it's peak!
Whether they're Ukrainians, Russians, Americans or Nigerians the point of emphasis here is that they're going to kill or get killed due to the orders from those who sit down in their homes with their wives and children!

So who is fooling who?

Jehovah's Witnesses say "let's used Jesus' teachings to resolve all disputes" some useless miscreants are saying Jesus didn't exist yet the Jehovah's Witnesses have used Jesus' teachings to erase politics and military services from the hearts of millions across the globe!

oteneaaron:


Can you speak without hurling insults at other people?

Is this what being a "true Christian" means?

KnownUnknown:

Because I corrected what you posted by identifying them as Americans instead of Ukrainians?! Lol, ok.

MaxInDHouse:


Guy that's what we call "intelligence" try to use your brains when coming into a discussion.
If truly you're not insane answer this question:

Is it Americans or Ukrainians that should die due to the orders from some selfish and self-centered politicians?

oteneaaron:


Lol.

Why are you speaking with two sides of your mouth?

If Jesus truly existed, why is there NO archeological evidence to prove this?

If Jesus truly existed, why are the "eye witness" accounts contradicting each other?

If Jesus truly existed, why would you call the account of Mark an "eye witness" account when he isn't even one of his disciples?

Or is Mark one of the disciples of Jesus?

If Jesus truly existed, why was the story of his birth, life and teachings already existing in Egypt at least 2000 years before his proposed birth?

We are now back to where we started.

Why are you speaking with two sides of your mouth?

KnownUnknown:


Dude, I simply pointed out that the people you posted are American soldiers not Ukrainians. Why are you so upset?