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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by JoyousFurnitire(m): 8:12am On Jul 02, 2022
Read those images were stolen, how low undecided
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Freemasonry: 8:15am On Jul 02, 2022
VeryWickedGoat:
That means some people must have peeped her kpekus because I can that see she wore a gown
You're a very stupid person.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by donnie(m): 8:21am On Jul 02, 2022
YabaLeftist:
I don't know why it's only Catholics who worship Mary that always see these silly apparitions. It beats my imagination why these deluded idiots place Mary above Jesus.

You prolly saw a demon masquerading as Mary.

Both Jesus and Mary are idols from Ancient African spirituality. The Mother of God title became popular and global from the time of Nimrod's wife Semiramis. Nimrod, born on 25th December is the one celebrated by Christians along with his many pagan customs and holy days (holidays). Semiramis was worshipped as queen of heaven and Mother of God. The name Mary was given to the same deity to make it acceptable to Christians. She was known by other cultures and civilizations by names like: Ishtar (Easter), Isis, Venus, Isu-Ama, Mammy water etc.

So calm down... na one boat carry una.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by matm: 8:24am On Jul 02, 2022
dazzlingd:
grin

Same Virgin Mary whey dey collect doggy from comrade holy spirit

I can see many frustrated people quoting me pouring their bitterness on this innocent moniker.
They have probably seen someone to cast their bitterness on, unfortunately while their holy comforter and protector should be busy protecting then and making their lives bette or busy dealing with boko haram and bandits bombing churches and innocent people, it is a nairaland comment that it would be bothered about and how to fvk his next virgin doggy style


Silence over supernatural things beyond one's knowledge is golden.Things dt happen in ur immediate family u can't account for properly let alone unseen things dt are supernatural .Sin against Jesus may be forgiven,but sin against d holy spirit cannever be forgiven said Jesus.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Olastep1(m): 8:25am On Jul 02, 2022
Nice one
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Diligence: 8:28am On Jul 02, 2022
Exodus 20:4
2 Corinthians 11:14

Dearly Beloved Catholic Church members. Pls read the above. Pls note that Mary is in heaven praying for you to stop any bowing down to any graven images. This is confirmed IDOLATRY.

Any apparitions or appearances you see are demons/devil appearing/camouflaging/masquerading as angel of light to deceive many. Pls stop already.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by HoceeFlashfoto: 8:31am On Jul 02, 2022
Catholics worship statues!” People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: “You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them” (Ex. 20:4–5).

It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues.

Anti-Catholic writer Loraine Boettner, in his book Roman Catholicism, makes the blanket statement, “God has forbidden the use of images in worship” (281). Yet if people were to “search the scriptures” (John 5:39), they would find the opposite is true. God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!
God Said to Make Them

People who oppose religious statuary forget about the many passages where the Lord commands the making of statues. For example: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be” (Ex. 25:18–20).

David gave Solomon the plan “for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all” (1 Chr. 28:18–19). David’s plan for the temple included statues of angels.

Similarly Ezekiel 41:17–18 describes graven (carved) images in the idealized temple he was shown in a vision, for he writes, “On the walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim.”
The Religious Uses of Images

During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to “make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live” (Num. 21:8–9).

One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations.

Catholics use statues, paintings, and other artistic devices to recall the person or thing depicted. Just as it helps to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it helps to recall the example of the saints by looking at pictures of them. Catholics also use statues as teaching tools. In the early Church they were especially useful for the instruction of the illiterate. Many Protestants have pictures of Jesus and other Bible pictures in Sunday school for teaching children. Catholics also use statues to commemorate certain people and events, much as Protestant churches have three-dimensional nativity scenes at Christmas.

If one measured Protestants by the same rule, then by using these “graven” images, they would be practicing the “idolatry” of which they accuse Catholics. But there’s no idolatry going on in these situations. God forbids the worship of images as gods, but he doesn’t ban the making of images.

It is when people begin to adore a statue as a god that the Lord becomes angry. Thus, when people did start to worship the bronze serpent as a snake-god (whom they named “Nehushtan”), the righteous king Hezekiah had it destroyed (2 Kgs. 18:4).
What About Bowing?

Sometimes anti-Catholics cite Deuteronomy 5:9, where God said concerning idols, “You shall not bow down to them.” Since many Catholics sometimes bow or kneel in front of statues of Jesus and the saints, anti-Catholics confuse the legitimate veneration of a sacred image with the sin of idolatry.

Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it.
Hiding the Second Commandment?

Another charge sometimes made by Protestants is that the Catholic Church “hides” the second commandment. This is because in Catholic catechisms, the first commandment is often listed as “You shall have no other gods before me” (Ex. 20:3), and the second is listed as “You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.” (Ex. 20:7). From this, it is argued that Catholics have deleted the prohibition of idolatry to justify their use of religious statues. But this is false. Catholics simply group the commandments differently from most Protestants.

In Exodus 20:2–17, which gives the Ten Commandments, there are actually fourteen imperative statements. To arrive at Ten Commandments, some statements have to be grouped together, and there is more than one way of doing this. Since, in the ancient world, polytheism and idolatry were always united—idolatry being the outward expression of polytheism—the historic Jewish numbering of the Ten Commandments has always grouped together the imperatives “You shall have no other gods before me” (Ex. 20:3) and “You shall not make for yourself a graven image” (Ex. 20:4). The historic Catholic numbering follows the Jewish numbering on this point, as does the historic Lutheran numbering.

Jews and Christians abbreviate the commandments so that they can be remembered using a summary, ten-point formula. For example, Jews, Catholics, and Protestants typically summarize the Sabbath commandment as, “Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy,” though the commandment’s actual text takes four verses (Ex. 20:8–11).

When the prohibition of polytheism/idolatry is summarized, Jews, Catholics, and Lutherans abbreviate it as “You shall have no other gods before me.” This is no attempt to “hide” the idolatry prohibition (Jews and Lutherans don’t even use statues of saints and angels). It is to make learning the Ten Commandments easier.

The Catholic Church is not dogmatic about how the Ten Commandments are to be numbered, however. The Catechism of the Catholic Church says, “The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confession. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities” (CCC 2066).
The Form of God?

Some anti-Catholics appeal to Deuteronomy 4:15–18 in their attack on religious statues: “[S]ince you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth.”

We’ve already shown that God doesn’t prohibit the making of statues or images of various creatures for religious purposes (cf. 1 Kgs. 6:29–32, 8:6–66; 2 Chr. 3:7–14). But what about statues or images that represent God? Many Protestants would say that’s wrong because Deuteronomy 4 says the Israelites did not see God under any form when he made the covenant with them; therefore we should not make symbolic representations of God either. But does Deuteronomy 4 forbid such representations?
The Answer Is No

Early in its history, Israel was forbidden to make any depictions of God because he had not revealed himself in a visible form. Given the pagan culture surrounding them, the Israelites might have been tempted to worship God in the form of an animal or some natural object (e.g., a bull or the sun).

But later God did reveal himself under visible forms, such as in Daniel 7:9: “As I looked, thrones were placed and one that was Ancient of Days took his seat; his raiment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was fiery flames, its wheels were burning fire.” Protestants make depictions of the Father under this form when they do illustrations of Old Testament prophecies.

The Holy Spirit revealed himself under at least two visible forms—that of a dove, at the baptism of Jesus (Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; John 1:32), and as tongues of fire, on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1–4). Protestants use these images when drawing or painting these biblical episodes and when they wear Holy Spirit lapel pins or place dove emblems on their cars.

But more important, in the incarnation of Christ his Son, God showed mankind an icon of himself. Paul said, “He is the image (Greek: ikon) of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” Christ is the tangible, divine “icon” of the unseen, infinite God.

We read that when the magi were “going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshipped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold, frankincense, and myrrh” (Matt. 2:11). Though God did not reveal a form for himself on Mount Horeb, he did reveal one in the house in Bethlehem.

Common sense tells us that, since God has revealed himself in various images, most especially in the incarnate Jesus Christ, it’s not wrong for us to use images of these forms to deepen our knowledge and love of God. That’s why God revealed himself in these visible forms, and that’s why statues and pictures are made of them.
Idolatry Condemned by the Church

Since the days of the apostles, the Catholic Church has consistently condemned the sin of idolatry. The Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566) taught that idolatry is committed “by worshipping idols and images as God, or believing that they possess any divinity or virtue entitling them to our worship, by praying to, or reposing confidence in them” (374).

What anti-Catholics fail to recognize is the distinction between thinking a piece of stone or plaster is a god and desiring to visually remember Christ and the saints in heaven by making statues in their honor. The making and use of religious statues is a thoroughly biblical practice. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know his Bible.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by donnie(m): 8:42am On Jul 02, 2022
HoceeFlashfoto:
Catholics worship statues!” People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: “You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them” (Ex. 20:4–5).

It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues.


The only idolatry that offends them is the one that gives respect to your own black ancestors. But as long as the idols are of white ancestors (e.g. St. Peter, Benedict, Patrick) , it's all fine and good.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by RoyalDiadems: 8:48am On Jul 02, 2022
Uteghe:
grin Catholics and idolatry are like IPOB and crime.

Chai!
They even have a shrine for her.

Nawa o.

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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by phemmyfour: 8:48am On Jul 02, 2022
Chem2020:


Would you have to instruct every other person before they honor your mother?

Secondly, was Jesus specific about whom to honor and whom not to honor?
More reason why you guys should have a rethink. Since he gave no specification , It's foolishness to singled out Mary for honor.

Imagine if
Apostolic honors Apostles
CAC honors Elijah
Celestial honors Moses....etc

Is that not foolishness? Jesus wanted the focus to be on Him and Him alone

Stop sharing His Honor with MARY and mentioning MARY more than Jesus in your services and prayers is no longer an HONOR, It can be tagged as WORSHIP
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by surequality: 8:51am On Jul 02, 2022
Familiar spirit!
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by budget4(m): 8:53am On Jul 02, 2022
Sad you make such comment, God is ever forgiven but don't invite wrath of God upon yourself..
Be mindful of what you post
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by nwajesus12(m): 8:56am On Jul 02, 2022
VeryWickedGoat:
That means some people must have peeped her kpekus because I can that see she wore a gown
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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by cigaricon(m): 8:57am On Jul 02, 2022
EmekaBlue:
what do u believe in?

Where u there when urs was happening too
I believe in myself, and yes I'm here while I'm happening grin
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by onunwa21(m): 9:04am On Jul 02, 2022
VeryWickedGoat:
That means some people must have peeped her kpekus because I can that see she wore a gown
See what u re writing regards to people's faith. If they write ur own, u will tag it blasphemy. Rubbish people!!! Fool
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Onyiiobi7735(m): 9:07am On Jul 02, 2022
paskal16:
Seeing with my korokoro eyes is believing
Call me doubting Thomas grin
Angels haven't appeared to people in public places,but it's Mary that will.Even our Lord Jesus hasn't.
But Mary has.How are these religious fools sure that it's not Ashtaroth who so much desires human worship.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by lereinter(m): 9:10am On Jul 02, 2022
Okobola146:
yes,any problem with that?

No

Is that Christianity?


Are Catholics Christians?
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Papichulostunne(m): 9:12am On Jul 02, 2022
That faithless idi-at atheist FERNANDEZISBACK is avoiding this post abi?

IDIAT
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Alpharey: 9:20am On Jul 02, 2022
Holy Mary Queen of Nigeria, pray for us

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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Okobola146: 9:20am On Jul 02, 2022
lereinter:


No

Is that Christianity?


Are Catholics Christians?
Google is your friend
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by naija4life247: 9:21am On Jul 02, 2022
VeryWickedGoat:
That means some people must have peeped her kpekus because I can that see she wore a gown

My Nigga, can you and I make Heaven like this? I beg, stop dragging me along, if you want to go to Hell Fire, go alone, stop pulling my legs along with you.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by naija4life247: 9:26am On Jul 02, 2022
VeryWickedGoat:
I was ordered to remove this comment

Yes, so that you will not be sitting on Lucifer's laps on the judgment day.
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by naija4life247: 9:26am On Jul 02, 2022
onunwa21:

See what u re writing regards to people's faith. If they write ur own, u will tag it blasphemy. Rubbish people!!! Fool

That guy is a Christian oooo
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by lereinter(m): 9:26am On Jul 02, 2022
Okobola146:
Google is your friend




Hmmmm
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Vicson2021: 9:27am On Jul 02, 2022
Far from scriptural context
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by naija4life247: 9:42am On Jul 02, 2022
chidooh1:
What is difficult there to believe, is it not in this country that somebody said he would make one naira equal to one dollar and a multitude of zombies believed him

What category do you fall into? Religious idiot, tribal idiot or political idiot?
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by zionstaar75: 9:48am On Jul 02, 2022
Mickykarim:


HAIL MARY FULL OF GRACE, THE LORD IS WITH THEE AND BLESSED ARE THOUGH AMONGST WOMEN. BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF THY WOMB JESUS. HOLYMARY MOTHER OF GOD PRAY US SINNERS NOW AND AT THE HOUR OF OUR DEATH. AMEN

Interesting!
Mary sef dey laugh at you, idol worshippers, where is it in the bible to pray to Mary,one scripture and ill give the person 100k
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by VeryWickedGoat: 10:00am On Jul 02, 2022
zionzoe:

Just like @llah did according to deranged false prophet

Mohammed is a blood thirsty paedophile

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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by penearth(m): 10:03am On Jul 02, 2022
Hail Holy queen..... Mother of Mercy.
Pray for us sinners now and forever!!! Amen

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Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by chidooh1: 10:06am On Jul 02, 2022
naija4life247:


What category do you fall into? Religious idiot, tribal idiot or political idiot?
idiotman, if you like belong to all idiot associations maybe it's your calling to be idiotic
Re: Fr. Evaristus Bassey: ''Virgin Mary Appeared To Church Members In Calabar" by Mrexcell(m): 10:10am On Jul 02, 2022
They should have also uploaded the video.

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