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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 11:27am On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:
These land grabbers are shameless..

Opobo and Bonny are ijaws...

No Igbo names or place in Bonny and Opobo.

No boundaries with igbos.
Opobo and Bonny speak ibani.

If Angola has more Portuguese speakers than Portugal,they should be Portuguese then ?
Or Nigeria should be British since Nigeria has more English speakers than the Brits.
Crazy lots.

We sink u all in the Atlantic if u don't mind ur business.

Leave our territory alone.

Hinterland bushmen




If not for the State of Nigeria they would have cooked up excuses to Grab the Lands Of the Ethnic Groups around them

Do you know that Ojukwu made a very desperate attempt to take over Ogoniland and the Lands Of others to the extent

of deporting Ogoni off their Lands, it was not a matter of War if was a matter of dispossessing them Of
their Ancestral Lands

At a point the Lands were being renamed in Igbo , it got to that extent

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 11:28am On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

This calls for research, Opobo wasn't a virgin land so who and who was there, if the people who were there, were actually Ijaws why should they throw away their language, it could mean that the natives there were Igbos, King Jaja arrived with 14 war houses, if we go by one canoe carrying 50 people, 50 × 14 isn't such a large number that would make them throw away their language, Igbo is also spoken in Bonny so Bonny is where we should start with,

For Opobo it was always been an independent state overseen by King Jaja and his dynasty that doesn't call for much argument for now lets start with why is Igbo wildly spoken in Bonny, Opobo is a different issue entirely, as for the lands whoever the people goes with the land belongs to the people now if we have to go in details we go in details, why is Igbo the major language spoken in Bonny and does it make absolutely no sense to term such place where Igbo is spoken as Igboland ?
U know nothing.
Igbo is not widely spoken.
Ibani is the language and ijaw the culture.

Nobody cares about ur inferior thoughts and imaginations.
U r low class.
We bought u igbos as slaves n u can't come claim nothing.
U igbos r second class even in Nigeria.
Hard yruth since u don't want to respect urselves

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 11:29am On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

This calls for research, Opobo wasn't a virgin land so who and who was there, if the people who were there, were actually Ijaws why should they throw away their language, it could mean that the natives there were Igbos, King Jaja arrived with 14 war houses, if we go by one canoe carrying 50 people, 50 × 14 isn't such a large number that would make them throw away their language, Igbo is also spoken in Bonny so Bonny is where we should start with,

For Opobo it was always been an independent state overseen by King Jaja and his dynasty that doesn't call for much argument for now lets start with why is Igbo wildly spoken in Bonny, Opobo is a different issue entirely, as for the lands whoever the people goes with the land belongs to the people now if we have to go in details we go in details, why is Igbo the major language spoken in Bonny and does it make absolutely no sense to term such place where Igbo is spoken as Igboland ?
U know nothing.
Igbo is not widely spoken.
Ibani is the language and ijaw the culture.

Nobody cares about ur inferior thoughts and imaginations.
U r low class.
We bought u igbos as slave.s n u can't come claim nothing.
U igbos r second class even in Nigeria.
Hard yruth since u don't want to respect urselves

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 11:30am On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:
These land grabbers are shameless..

Opobo and Bonny are ijaws...

No Igbo names or place in Bonny and Opobo.

No boundaries with igbos.
Opobo and Bonny speak ibani.

If Angola has more Portuguese speakers than Portugal,they should be Portuguese then ?
Or Nigeria should be British since Nigeria has more English speakers than the Brits.
Crazy lots.

We sink u all in the Atlantic if u don't mind ur business.

Leave our territory alone.

Hinterland bushmen

You said Opobo has no boundaries with Igbos, please define a boundary and what is Imo River? I wouldn't retaliate your confrontation, we can deal with it as civilised people uneless any side thinks otherwise

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OfoIgbo: 11:31am On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:





The Ga People of Accra and the Ewe People Of Lomé Togo Claim a Yoruba descent

Yorubas don’t Claim to own them

At most Yoruba say they are relatives fullstop

Their Lands and Identify belongs to them

Do the Ga and the Ewe people still speak Yoruba as their first language?

Bonny and Opobo people still speak Igbo as their first language. Go figure

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 11:31am On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

U know nothing.
Igbo is not widely spoken.
Ibani is the language and ijaw the culture.

Nobody cares about ur inferior thoughts and imaginations.
U r low class.
We bought u igbos as slaves n u can't come claim nothing.
U igbos r second class even in Nigeria.
Hard yruth since u don't want to respect urselves
I will honestly not throw away the baby with the bathing water, you are just an individual with a single opinion, those that matters shall consider my proposal and come up with a lasting solution to avert disasters

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 11:40am On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:
To ignorant people here.....

The simple truth is that Igbos will not be relinquishing our ties with both Ubani (Bonny) and Opobo.
Both towns are still being traditionally led by Igbo royal families right from time immemorial.
If we maintain such hard posture it will likely result in a war, which the people of Opobo and Bonny will suffer the most, we can agree on a system where one becomes officially part of AlaIgbo while the other becomes part of Ijaw, we can build bridge across, it doesn't mean we are relinquishing our people it is just that these people are mixed and to avoid major issues that can cause severe bad blood.

We would still interact with Bonny afterwards and we would be able to assist them if need be but to reduce such cost, truth is Nigeria may not even be outrightly dividing but we can build AlaIgbo within Nigeria, in the event that Nigeria divides it would be all for himself but peaceful approach would help us focus on other challenges as a Nation let's go for peace, if it fails at least we know we tried it is not easy but thats the best

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 11:44am On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


Do the Ga and the Ewe people still speak Yoruba as their first language?

Bonny and Opobo people still speak Igbo as their first language. Go figure


Some Ga and Ewe are Still Bilingual and their Rulers wear Ife Crowns

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OfoIgbo: 11:47am On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

U know nothing.
Igbo is not widely spoken.
Ibani is the language and ijaw the culture.

Nobody cares about ur inferior thoughts and imaginations.
U r low class.
We bought u igbos as slaves n u can't come claim nothing.
U igbos r second class even in Nigeria.
Hard yruth since u don't want to respect urselves

Nwokem, you can bleat all you want, Bonny and Opobo will remain Igbo terrtories till thy kingdom come. Some Igbo territories still use OBA as the title of their traditional rulers and they still relate with their fellow wider Igbo communities.

Igbo remains the number one traditional language being spoken in both Bonny and Opobo.

The first attachment clearlys shows that
1. The lineage of the traditional rulers of Bonny, is Igbo
2. The middle class and indigenes of Bonny are of Igbo descent.
3. The slaves were also chiefly Igbo. But of course, we know that Ijaw cannibals, Ibibio and Edo slaves will also be there

So basically the first attachment clearly insinuates that the slave traders in Bonny were Igbos. That will make sense, because Aro middlemen are much more likely to deal with their fellow Igbo Bonny slave merchants that spoke their language.

The second attachment clearly shows the true map of Igboland and drawn by Basden, decades before Nigeria was created. I know Ijaws have great respect for Basden and his opinions regarding the Niger Delta. Please further have respect for the map of Igboland that he drew

These your land-grabbing won't work. People are just keeping quiet. At the appointed time, you will know you are biting more than you can chew.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OfoIgbo: 11:53am On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:



Some Ga and Ewe are Still Bilingual and their Rulers wear Ife Crowns


The fact that they are bilingual means they had to learn a second language.

I am telling you that Bonny and Opobo people speak Igbo as their first language. Some of them are being cajoled and forced to learn languages that are foreign to them. Those languages are English and Ibani

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 11:55am On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


The fact that they are bilingual means they had to learn a second language.

I am telling you that Bonny and Opobo people speak Igbo as their first language. Some of them are being cajoled and forced to learn languages that are foreign to them. Those languages are English and Ibani



Everyone knows they are Ijaw

Why are you coveting their Territory instead of developing your own

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OfoIgbo: 12:03pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

If we maintain such hard posture it will likely result in a war, which the people of Opobo and Bonny will suffer the most, we can agree on a system where one becomes officially part of AlaIgbo while the other becomes part of Ijaw, we can build bridge across, it doesn't mean we are relinquishing our people it is just that these people are mixed and to avoid major issues that can cause severe bad blood.

We would still interact with Bonny afterwards and we would be able to assist them if need be but to reduce such cost, truth is Nigeria may not even be outrightly dividing but we can build AlaIgbo within Nigeria, in the event that Nigeria divides it would be all for himself but peaceful approach would help us focus on other challenges as a Nation let's go for peace, if it fails at least we know we tried it is not easy but thats the best

The bolded is 100% unacceptable.

Igbos will not be rewarding any landgrabbing back-stabbing moves. It is more justifiable to reward people who didn't try to expropriate our ancestral territories than those who did that.

For Igbos to give up Bonny, Ijaws will have to provide an admirable piece of territory in exchange. But it is unlikely the royal household of Bonny will ever agree to severing their links with their Igbo blood relatives, neither will they be willing to have their land, considered a complete Ijaw territory.
So the best option is for Ijaws to remain in their territory and let Igbos of Bonny and Opobo be. Of course, Igbos realise that there are non-Igbo people in those areas, so they will have to be well accommodated, so that they don't feel like aliens overnight.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OfoIgbo: 12:09pm On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:




Everyone knows they are Ijaw

Why are you coveting their Territory instead of developing your own

You obviously are not aware of what happened earlier on this year in Bonny.
These Ijoids tried to install an AMADABO in a chunk of Bonny territory, an action that was clearly perceived by the real Bonny indigenes, including the royal family of Bonny, as an attempt to whittle down the Amayanabo's power as they see him as an Igbo man.
Of course, the Amayanabo and his people dealt seriously with the situation, and real Bonny indigenes followed it up by releasing a press statement, making it clear that they have Igbo ancestry, while also conceding the fact that some Ijoids also settled around the Finima area of Bonny.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 12:17pm On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


The bolded is 100% unacceptable.

Igbos will not be rewarding any landgrabbing back-stabbing moves. It is more justifiable to reward people who didn't try to expropriate our ancestral territories than those who did that.

For Igbos to give up Bonny, Ijaws will have to provide an admirable piece of territory in exchange. But it is unlikely the royal household of Bonny will ever agree to severing their links with their Igbo blood relatives, neither will they be willing to have their land, considered a complete Ijaw territory.
So the best option is for Ijaws to remain in their territory and let Igbos of Bonny and Opobo be. Of course, Igbos realise that there are non-Igbo people in those areas, so they will have to be well accommodated, so that they don't feel like aliens overnight.
You have spoken well however I wish you also sees the dangers, I really appreciate your birds, from what you said, it means Bonny would be a protectorate or at best independent, I have also hinted on the inability for either Bonny or Opobo to protect herself in the event of independence they would constantly be attacked by the Ijaws.

You understand completely that the Igbos from my perspective is satisfied with what God have given us as such we would not want any other Ijaw territories in exchange for any of our affiliated people unless they want to sell any of their territories afterall United States bought Alaska.

Opobo closer to us so we can easily protect Opobo with our navy through the Imo Rivers and the Atlantic but Bonny is surround at all angle by the sea, it will make them susceptible to Ijaw pirates, we can easily station in Opobo in terms of war however Bonny is going to be a battle ground, is that what we want? We can agree to go with Opobo and watch how far they can manage going with Bonny, if along the line Bonny rejects them we can then assist them.

But now that both Bonny and Opobo is contested, let's seek peace to avoid much casualties in Bonny, Ijaws can't reach Igbo mainland in real time in war situation, we don't have easy land boundary with them
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OldNairalander(m): 12:17pm On Oct 09, 2022
As an Okirika man, I find it too irritating when
Yoruba people always meddle into issues involving we the NigerDelta and our Igbo brothers.
Once Igbo is mentioned they will start masturbating over the thread. You guys should stay away from NigerDelta-Igbo issues.
We might have our internal issues with the Igbo but we have come a long way to succumb to your petty divide and rule.

Bonny and Opobo cannot be separated no matter what. Neither can they go to either Igbo or Ijaw. Rather they will be an independent Island nation under the joint protectorate of Biafran and Ijaw republic forces.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 12:20pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

That's the issue and I'm happy now you made a contribution and the case now is that at one point and a man with Igbo blood was an Amanyabo of Opobo, when England and Scotland got to that blood confusion, what happened, UK was birthed, so what is your proposal for an Igbo Amanyabo whose decendants of mixed ancestry still rules Opobo?
There is no mix blood of Igbo anywhere.

The title of the stool is Jaja and it's not an Igbo name or stool.
The bloodline of king Jaja stool is full blown ijaw of Mac Pepple house in iban land.

Now go and rest
This is the truth we all ijaw ibani know.

A Master can never entertain his slave.

Go and rest

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 12:23pm On Oct 09, 2022
OldNairalandDoner:
As an Okirika man, I find it too irritating when
Yoruba people always meddle into issues involving we the NigerDelta and our Igbo brothers.
Once Igbo is mentioned they will start masturbating over the thread. You guys should stay away from NigerDelta-Igbo issues.
We might have our internal issues with the Igbo but we have come a long way to succumb to your petty divide and rule.

Bonny and Opobo cannot be separated no matter what. Neither can they go to either Igbo or Ijaw. Rather they will be an independent Island nation under the joint protectorate of Biafran and Ijaw republic forces.




Don’t be ashamed of your Tribe


OldNairalander:
How a thread on INEC PVC statistics turned to Igbo bashing thread is beyond me.
Seun your forum is becoming too toxic and a threat to this country's unity. Do something about it.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 12:24pm On Oct 09, 2022
OldNairalander:
As an Okirika man, I find it too irritating when
Yoruba people always meddle into issues involving we the NigerDelta and our Igbo brothers.
Once Igbo is mentioned they will start masturbating over the thread. You guys should stay away from NigerDelta-Igbo issues.
We might have our internal issues with the Igbo but we have come a long way to succumb to your petty divide and rule.

Bonny and Opobo cannot be separated no matter what. Neither can they go to either Igbo or Ijaw. Rather they will be an independent Island nation under the joint protectorate of Biafran and Ijaw republic forces.
This is another good point, however Opobo and Bonny being a joint protectorate of two enemies could end like International space station where Russia has threatened to pull out,

The most important thing is peace, no one really intend to separate them but being protectorate between Igbos and Ijaws is dangerous becuase if we disagree the two communities would be battle ground, let both be independent protectorate, Opobo becomes Igbo protected while Bonny becomes Ijaw protected, in this case Igbo can see Opobo as part of AlaIgbo while Nigeria exist while Ijaws can see Bonny as part of Izon while Nigeria exist, fact is if Nigeria divide the question is what caused the division? If it is as a result of war you don't know what nation survives in one piece.

For now we need to see mechanism that see us work separately while Nigeria exist, Bonny should be a joint protectorate between the rest of Niger Delta including Ibom, Cross River etc. That's another suggestion.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OldNairalander(m): 12:33pm On Oct 09, 2022
I don't hide my support for Igbo's here cos I have Igbo blood in my matrilinear lineage.
I am true son of Fimieama and proud Okirikan.
NigerDelta and Igbo's are brothers. We have our internal brotherly issues but that doesn't warrant aliens from the South West to meddle into our case. You are not wanted here.




Christistruth00:





Don’t be ashamed of your Tribe




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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by OldNairalander(m): 1:00pm On Oct 09, 2022
The Ijaws in Opobo will feel left out while the Igbo's in Bonny will also feel the same.
One thing I know is that Ijaw republic will never go to war against Biafrans infact they need the Biafran hinterland more for trade and industry and Biafrans need them too to ward off external agression from their common enemies.



AlexBells:

This is another good point, however Opobo and Bonny being a joint protectorate of two enemies could end like International space station where Russia has threatened to pull out,

The most important thing is peace, no one really intend to separate them but being protectorate between Igbos and Ijaws is dangerous becuase if we disagree the two communities would be battle ground, let both be independent protectorate, Opobo becomes Igbo protected while Bonny becomes Ijaw protected, in this case Igbo can see Opobo as part of AlaIgbo while Nigeria exist while Ijaws can see Bonny as part of Izon while Nigeria exist, fact is if Nigeria divide the question is what caused the division? If it is as a result of war you don't know what nation survives in one piece.

For now we need to see mechanism that see us work separately while Nigeria exist, Bonny should be a joint protectorate between the rest of Niger Delta including Ibom, Cross River etc. That's another suggestion.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 1:05pm On Oct 09, 2022
OldNairalander:
The Ijaws in Opobo will feel left out while the Igbo's in Bonny will also feel the same.
One thing I know is that Ijaw republic will never go to war against Biafrans infact they need the Biafran hinterland more for trade and industry and Biafrans need them too to ward off external agression from their common enemies.



We would build a bridge to Bonny from Opobo and let the two towns participate in their Nwaotam and other festivals together, there would still be several mechanism connecting the Igbos and Ijaws however leaving both town entirely on their own can hinder corporations and inspire neglects from both the Ijaws and the Igbos
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 2:57pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

Yorubas can't claim Edo as Edo is older than Yoruba. Yoruba is not a single state what you could compare to Edo is Oyo, Ife, these are the people that came together to form the modern Yoruba as we know, what you could have said is Edo claiming Yorubas becuase Edo is older than Yoruba

If King Jaja was alive to rule any further, all these wouldn't have been an issue becuase if you red his history you would realise that Opobo was only closer to his root, how can you compare Edo a people whose civilisation is older and more refined than any Yoruba civilisation, this arrogance and disrespect is why Benin can't work with Yorubas because you steal their history.

Opobo on the other hand was fouinded by a man with Igbo blood

Wrong again..


Opobo was founded by ibani chiefs who made Jaja their once slave their kong on merit...
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by deekseen(m): 3:04pm On Oct 09, 2022
I don't know if anyone noticed the way the OP was mentioning WAR in almost all his replies. Even some keyboard warriors are rolling drums of war. The amazing thing is that the elders of Alaigbo and the main stakeholders have not said anything. I believe they are wise enough to know how to handle conflicts like this.

I think this generation of Igbo youths are always spoiling for war and since no one has their time the war is now going on in their own domain - Alaigbo vs Alaigbo; in the form of ESN vs Autopilots vs IPOB vs MASSOB vs UGM vs Kidnappers vs ogwu ego ritualists vs elites.

Truth is, I love the Igbos, but this generation has not learnt anything from their history.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 3:17pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

This calls for research, Opobo wasn't a virgin land so who and who was there, if the people who were there, were actually Ijaws why should they throw away their language, it could mean that the natives there were Igbos, King Jaja arrived with 14 war houses, if we go by one canoe carrying 50 people, 50 × 14 isn't such a large number that would make them throw away their language, Igbo is also spoken in Bonny so Bonny is where we should start with,

For Opobo it was always been an independent state overseen by King Jaja and his dynasty that doesn't call for much argument for now lets start with why is Igbo wildly spoken in Bonny, Opobo is a different issue entirely, as for the lands whoever the people goes with the land belongs to the people now if we have to go in details we go in details, why is Igbo the major language spoken in Bonny and does it make absolutely no sense to term such place lwhere Igbo is spoken as Igboland ?
Imagine such shamble reasoning..
Ur words is full of guesses and insinuations that are baseless.
The people their igbos?
How if anyone may ask?
Has Igbo of hinterlands any connections with the Atlantic?
They fear ordinary river so much that they can't even live close enough by it...
So andoni ijaw people are now igbos?

U v not made ur research yet u r here claiming what is not even part of history, manufacturing fictions from ur head and want to sell them because u want to grab lands.
Here u threaten war.

Let me ask u?

If Niger delta is created, who will give ur army the right of way towards Opobo or Bonny?
Does any single Igbo community v a boundary with ibani people of Opobo or Bonny?
The answer is NO!!
So what is ur problem?

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by paramakina202: 3:17pm On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:



All Nigeria and West Africa knows that Bonny and Opobo is Ijaw

so why are you donating your head for the Ijaws

to break their Coconuts on when the ground is available

People and tribes are known in Africa by what language they speak and by their culture, in this case both Opobo and Bonny people are Igbo speakers.
Watch coronation of new head of the Jack Mannila Pepple house of Opobo done in Igbo language.
https://www.facebook.com/100069404006980/videos/1546781412433713/

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by deekseen(m): 3:25pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

Yorubas can't claim Edo as Edo is older than Yoruba. Yoruba is not a single state what you could compare to Edo is Oyo, Ife, these are the people that came together to form the modern Yoruba as we know, what you could have said is Edo claiming Yorubas becuase Edo is older than Yoruba

If King Jaja was alive to rule any further, all these wouldn't have been an issue becuase if you red his history you would realise that Opobo was only closer to his root, how can you compare Edo a people whose civilisation is older and more refined than any Yoruba civilisation, this arrogance and disrespect is why Benin can't work with Yorubas because you steal their history.

Opobo on the other hand was founded by a man with Igbo blood

What you said about king Jaja here would have been valid if he actually conquered and captured Opobo. But he was a slave who was brought to prominence by his master. This singular point is what you guys fail to understand.

Ibani had already been in existence before King Jaja's emergence. He didn't try to take the land even as a king and he preferred to naturalize there instead.

But how, generations later, some people are now trying to twist history and collect what King Jaja never professed to be his, nor even colonized, is amazing to me.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 4:26pm On Oct 09, 2022
paramakina202:


People and tribes are known in Africa by what language they speak and by their culture, in this case both Opobo and Bonny people are Igbo speakers.
Watch coronation of new head of the Jack Mannila Pepple house of Opobo done in Igbo language.
https://www.facebook.com/100069404006980/videos/1546781412433713/


No

The Zulu and Ndebele of Zimbabwe speak the same language but are different Tribes

The Hutu and Tutsi Of Rwanda and Burundi speak the same language but are different Tribes

The Egun, Ewe, Fon,Ajah And Ga of Nigeria,Benin Republic ,Togo and Ghana speak the same

Akan Language but are different Tribes

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by lexylaw40: 4:34pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

Please I'm trying to make a sensible proposal that could help us navigate through future calamity, I clearly stated it is about Igbo and Ijaws and have nothing to do with the rest of Nigeria, any true Ijaw son and daughter knows the truth to these situations and so is every true Igbo so it is a sensitive situation nearly as that of Ilorin between Yorubas and Fulani
atache by force

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 4:44pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

Imagine such shamble reasoning..
Ur words is full of guesses and insinuations that are baseless.
The people their igbos?
How if anyone may ask?
Has Igbo of hinterlands any connections with the Atlantic?
They fear ordinary river so much that they can't even live close enough by it...
So andoni ijaw people are now igbos?

U v not made ur research yet u r here claiming what is not even part of history, manufacturing fictions from ur head and want to sell them because u want to grab lands.
Here u threaten war.

Let me ask u?

If Niger delta is created, who will give ur army the right of way towards Opobo or Bonny?
Does any single Igbo community v a boundary with ibani people of Opobo or Bonny?
The answer is NO!!
So what is ur problem?


They are planning to takeover Ogoniland by force in order to reach Bonny and Opobo

That is why IPOB are already renaming Oyigbo Obigbo

Oyigbo was built on Ogoni land that the Ogoni gave to some Igbos who were friendly with them

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 4:59pm On Oct 09, 2022
deekseen:


What you said about king Jaja here would have been valid if he actually conquered and captured Opobo. But he was a slave who was brought to prominence by his master. This singular point is what you guys fail to understand.

Ibani had already been in existence before King Jaja's emergence. He didn't try to take the land even as a king and he preferred to naturalize there instead.

But how, generations later, some people are now trying to twist history and collect what King Jaja never professed to be his, nor even colonized, is amazing me.
King Jaja ruled Opobo for 18 years, and today his linage still rules Opobo, not just Opobo but also Bonny is contested, you bring the concept of conquest into it, then I ask was King Jaja not defeated in Bonny before he left and founded Opobo, we are all giving sense of reasoning and arguments because peace is the best option and if peace fail, it would still be decided but with so much cost in human lives,
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 5:04pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

Imagine such shamble reasoning..
Ur words is full of guesses and insinuations that are baseless.
The people their igbos?
How if anyone may ask?
Has Igbo of hinterlands any connections with the Atlantic?
They fear ordinary river so much that they can't even live close enough by it...
So andoni ijaw people are now igbos?

U v not made ur research yet u r here claiming what is not even part of history, manufacturing fictions from ur head and want to sell them because u want to grab lands.
Here u threaten war.

Let me ask u?

If Niger delta is created, who will give ur army the right of way towards Opobo or Bonny?
Does any single Igbo community v a boundary with ibani people of Opobo or Bonny?
The answer is NO!!
So what is ur problem?
Who is creating Niger Delta lol, that’s a joke taken too far you know, your mates who have clearly seen the handwriting on the wall is Talking about Ijaw Republic yet you are here talking about Niger Delta Republic that is Dead.

Forget your Niger Delta Republic let’s talk on something that has possibility of happening, such Niger Delta Republic can’t hold water, talk about your Ijaw Republic and stop attaching to others, as you can see millennials and Gen Z Igbos are more about AlaIgbo Republic
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 5:05pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

Imagine such shamble reasoning..
Ur words is full of guesses and insinuations that are baseless.
The people their igbos?
How if anyone may ask?
Has Igbo of hinterlands any connections with the Atlantic?
They fear ordinary river so much that they can't even live close enough by it...
So andoni ijaw people are now igbos?

U v not made ur research yet u r here claiming what is not even part of history, manufacturing fictions from ur head and want to sell them because u want to grab lands.
Here u threaten war.

Let me ask u?

If Niger delta is created, who will give ur army the right of way towards Opobo or Bonny?
Does any single Igbo community v a boundary with ibani people of Opobo or Bonny?
The answer is NO!!
So what is ur problem?
Who is creating Niger Delta lol, that’s a joke taken too far you know, your mates who have clearly seen the handwriting on the wall is Talking about Ijaw Republic yet you are here talking about Niger Delta Republic that is Dead.

Forget your Niger Delta Republic let’s talk on something that has possibility of happening, such Niger Delta Republic can’t hold water, talk about your Ijaw Republic and stop attaching to others, as you can see millennials and Gen Z Igbos are more about AlaIgbo Republic wake up from that dream abeg, Igbos has more right to Niger Delta than you

Besides I’m not threatening you of war, the war is already there, I’m just making suggestions that it don’t escalate, how you translate peace moves to threat baffles me

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