AlexBells:

States have everything they need but most administrators are selfish and clueless, most people who criticize the Nigerian state have never seen a copy of the Nigerian constitution.

Do you know that all lands in Nigeria belongs to the state ? Do you know that every state gets billions in monthly allocation. Do you realise that the Federal Government have only used hydrocarbons product for the past 15 years no other form of revenue apart from crude oil, ports and tax where most citizens evade tax.

States doesn't need more power they need accountability, since state owns all the land, where is Enugu state farm located, how many states runs a farm in Nigeria, how many runs a Zoo, how many run a recreational park. When I was Six around year 2001, We used to visit the zoo in Enugu, polo park was an actual park now it is sold under some form of privatisation.

States are just being some liabilities. It will benefit everyone if Nigeria can be fixed into a unitary confederation like UK, England is distinct from Scotland so should AlaIgbo be distinct from Yorubas, Ijaws, Ibom etc. But we need to first defined where AlaIgbo starts and so on, we can run a government of AlaIgbo without a penny from FG, without even mineral resources becuase the biggest resources is human resources.

I want everyone to succeed in their own capabilities but while at that, it doesn't mean that we would take some Bulshit, I idolise Kaduna Nzeogwu, I love Sani Abacha and I learn from Putin, as you can see from putin you must not win all the wars but there MUST be Consequences for every action.

What you see in the proposal is pure undiluted peace becuase if it fails, there shall be consequence, I can remind you that the Igbo Nation has the highest stake in Southern Nigeria as far as the Military is concerned, the biggest economy and international connection yet we take it peaceful, myself with indept knowledge and Military appreciation knows the calamity of avoidable confrontation, I'm also a politician and a young businessman.

Let them recognise Opobo and Bonny as either independent or they protect Bonny while we protect Opobo still building bridge across in case Nigeria divides and if Nigeria doesn't divide let them understand that the Igbo Province shall extend our economic plans to Opobo for now.

Apart from This situation, I have evaluated and see that every other enemies the Igbo Nation have in Nigeria is political this is the only issue that can move the Igbo Nation to war if not resolved, Biafra is a concern but last time I checked more Igbos are scattered in other parts of Nigeria than anyone else, we also have the highest number in the armed forces than any other South nationality and our elected officials are not in support of secession

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You made a good point. But you should understand that states needs the federal government approval to explore any natural or mineral resources in their states. Also the kind of system of government we practice here makes state government unaccountable. Though even with the little funds they have gotten, there nothing to show for because no one is held accountable because of Abuja connection. Igbos will have a cordial relationship with its neighbours when they eventually have their own country. Don't be deceived that it's the political class that are hating elements, it's the people that make up the political class. Due to archaic cultural practices across the country, a lot of people are indoctrinated to be wary of the next tribe and there is no sincere peace resolution after the civil war. The country is just united because of oil/gas which politicians from all tribes are united in the looting spree. A lot of people are just too wicked to be associated with. It's best everyone go their separate ways and let those who love wickedness practice it amongst themselves. Yet the country is the most religious country in Africa.

9japride:
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You made a good point. But you should understand that states needs the federal government approval to explore any natural or mineral resources in their states. Also the kind of system of government we practice here makes state government unaccountable. Though even with the little funds they have gotten, there nothing to show for because no one is held accountable because of Abuja connection. Igbos will have a cordial relationship with its neighbours when they eventually have their own country. Don't be deceived that it's the political class that are hating elements, it's the people that make up the political class. Due to archaic cultural practices across the country, a lot of people are indoctrinated to be wary of the next tribe and there is no sincere peace resolution after the civil war. The country is just united because of oil/gas which politicians from all tribes are united in the looting spree. A lot of people are just too wicked to be associated with. It's best everyone go their separate ways and let those who love wickedness practice it amongst themselves. Yet the country is the most religious country in Africa.

What I mean by political enmity is that Yoruba hates Igbo today becuase of the political reality of Nigeria, a state is a political creation divide Nigeria and the tension between Yorubas and Igbos either turns to regional politics on the sole control of west Africa and Africa or something else.

Only the Ijaws shall we continue to have trouble whether Nigeria divides or not unless the issue of Opobo and Bonny is settled. The rest of minorities would have to work with us becuase we stand a better chance to help them.

As for the states, why cant they do without mineral resources since they even get hefty sum from FG allocation, does FG spend crude revenue alone? Only few governors are performing and they are running the states like a socialist economy.

They are begged to build road, pipe bone water and underfunded hospitals and those are just about the only thing they do. Why can't the state invest in football, agriculture, technology and innovation, services etc. most universities in the United States are built by the states.

Police are built by the state, forget them saying state police, have they ever built an elite and a well funded state intelligence unit? Look I don't want to talk much in these things, failure is part of life, even we get it right someday history have shown that the most foolish ones are not yet born and they keep coming that's why Egypt fell, why Greece fell, why Rome fell, why United States shall fall someday and why Africa may rise and still fall in the future because there is lot of that chances that greedy fools would find their way into power.

What I know is that Unification of AlaIgbo is first among other important thing to do before Nigeria get it right, nobody so much about mineral resources, any state that can't do anything without mineral resources should work on themselves, they are not getting the kind of resource control they are expecting, FG is way less corrupt than these states yet FG is a single channel corruption that the state are part of.

Resource control when the states are not sincere is a fast means of getting us into a likely environmental disaster among other things, they would still loot it, look at Wike and the rest, creating 14,000 advices just few months to the end of his tenure, why didn't he make same appointment through the past seven years. Giving a monkey power could be a mistake but more power is foolishness, let's deal with FG Cluelessnes until we get it right.

My Ijaw brothers, una try o.
Me I no even get time for lunatics like this.
Person wey him head no correct no dey hard to know. Him Neva grow leave him small pikin sense.

2elliot:
Thank you! You have written like the true son of your father and as a wise man from the east. I fully support your idea that the two regions be shared between the we the ijaws and the Igbos. That to me, is the easiest way to finding peace as long as this matter is concerned. But again, I expect that the concerned people in the two regions have the sole right to decide whose side they would go. But still, that must come after the real facts have been established, whether they are of the ijaws or Igbos, for the sake of history and posterity.
As an Ijaw man myself from one of the key clans, I find it awkward hating the Igbos; in fact, you guys have been our big brothers watching over us as far as this Nigeria project is concerned. I can only imagine the situation we would have found ourselves if you the igbos didn't exist in the equation. We would have been forgotten identities, subdued by both the monstrous religious and tribal beasts roaming the entire country. Even if no one would admit, I will. Even on the level of political affiliations, or to culture, we have more in common, than any other group of persons or association. And even till tomorrow, this relationship will remain static.
Sadly, the lack of commonsense and hatred pervading the ijaw people towards the Igbos are out of immaturity and as a result of brainwashing. But I do pray, that one day we can really form the needed allegiance to confronted our more common enemies.

Ijaw doesn't hate Igbo. In fact, we are closer to the Igbos than even our immediate neighbors. We do business with them and intermarry without issues. We allow them into our communities and even create peaceful dwellings for them.

But you see this generation of Igbos, they're becoming too violent and aggressive, too desperate and want to claim anything they touch - things their forefathers never laid claim to.

If the Igbos have any real enemies, they created them themselves. But I doubt if they have, else, how would you explain the current state of the east?

The Igbos are allowing men that love blood to lead them to destruction. Greedy and self-centered men who are arrogantly pursuing their selfish ambitions while killing the economy of the east. Even these ones on Nairaland are calling for war up and down.

The Ijaw leaders are peacefully uniting the Ijaw Nation while the Igbo leaders are violently destroying theirs.

To the Igbos: If you really love yourselves in the east, or truly love your brothers in foreign lands (who are fine and don't even tag themselves with you), save the east first. Remove the log of wood in your eyes before trying to help the person who doesn't have eye problems.

Threats...

AlexBells:


Only the Ijaws shall we continue to have trouble whether Nigeria divides or not unless the issue of Opobo and Bonny is settled.

And bullying

AlexBells:

The rest of minorities would have to work with us becuase we stand a better chance to help them.

If only you knew the Ijaws very well, you'd know these things don't work.

@bolded
And like I said previously, help yourself first.

666Advocate:
Go and claim it physical and not online.

You go and claim it physically

Alabo7978:

So dams are the only source of electricity??
You must be thinking from 1930.
Isn't there solar?? Even the wind mill. Electricity isn't a problem and did you just say you've got more gas than izon?
Is this nòmú? (Nòmú means madness, don't mention)
Do you know the untouched gas reserves in the ocean?
Please I want to sleep,, I don't have time for this ignorant exchange.

The East have more gas reserve than any country in the world

OfoIgbo:


Nwokem, you can bleat all you want, Bonny and Opobo will remain Igbo terrtories till thy kingdom come. Some Igbo territories still use OBA as the title of their traditional rulers and they still relate with their fellow wider Igbo communities.

Igbo remains the number one traditional language being spoken in both Bonny and Opobo.

The first attachment clearlys shows that
1. The lineage of the traditional rulers of Bonny, is Igbo
2. The middle class and indigenes of Bonny are of Igbo descent.
3. The slaves were also chiefly Igbo. But of course, we know that Ijaw cannibals, Ibibio and Edo slaves will also be there

So basically the first attachment clearly insinuates that the slave traders in Bonny were Igbos. That will make sense, because Aro middlemen are much more likely to deal with their fellow Igbo Bonny slave merchants that spoke their language.

The second attachment clearly shows the true map of Igboland and drawn by Basden, decades before Nigeria was created. I know Ijaws have great respect for Basden and his opinions regarding the Niger Delta. Please further have respect for the map of Igboland that he drew

These your land-grabbing won't work. People are just keeping quiet. At the appointed time, you will know you are biting more than you can chew.

Even the lineage of the Ndoki people you want to use to claim Bonny and Opobo are telling you they are Aminadokiari ���


https://www.nairaland.com/7393389/late-eze-sylvanus-ononankume-vi

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Alabo7978:


Even the lineage of the Ndoki people you want to use to claim Bonny and Opobo are telling you they are Aminadokiari ���


https://www.nairaland.com/7393389/late-eze-sylvanus-ononankume-vi

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When Nigeria divide we go settle this matter well.


We won't waste time teaching this boat boys serious lessons

Alabo7978:


Even the lineage of the Ndoki people you want to use to claim Bonny and Opobo are telling you they are Aminadokiari ���


https://www.nairaland.com/7393389/late-eze-sylvanus-ononankume-vi

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After many years of Ijaw governments in Old Rivers state with their brutalisation and indoctrination and bribing of some Ndoki elders in Rivers state, what do you expect.

Your major problem is that Ndokis in Abia still see themselves as Igbos.

To make matters worse for you, Ngwa people, who are also a major contributor to the first settlers, see themselves as completely Igbo.

You have a mountain to climb

deekseen:
My friend, @AlexBells

A very peaceful resolution is very possible. It is evident from our positions on this thread that the Igbos don't have much grounds as to why either Opobo or Bonny should belong to them.

If King Jaja of Opobo and the Igbo dialect are the main points from Alaigbo, then what about the people, the culture, the land?

A whole ethnic tribe cannot be handed over to another because of one man who introduced his language to his subjects, and because they loved and reverenced him decided to adopt it.

As a matter of fact, a whole ethnic tribe cannot be subject to being slaves to the distant descendants of the slave they chose to be their king.

Opobo is a living proof that Bonny is Igboland. Let me explain this grammar in simple terms step by step: (1) Opobo people came from Bonny. (2) Opobo people speak Igbo as the only indigenous language. (3) This shows that Bonny people are Igbo in origin and ancestry. (4) Therefore, Bonny and Opobo are parts of Igboland.

Donarozzi:


Opobo is a living proof that Bonny is Igboland. Let me explain this grammar in simple terms step by step: (1) Opobo people came from Bonny. (2) Opobo people speak Igbo as the only indigenous language. (3) This shows that Bonny people are Igbo in origin and ancestry. (4) Therefore, Bonny and Opobo are parts of Igboland.

Opobo, Bonny situation would be settled when the time is right. For now we have the Federal Republic of Nigeria as a gift from our heroes and ancestors. If the division of Nigeria becomes eminent in our time. Then There are three workable option in Opobo and Bonny. The Ijaws can keep Bonny while we keep Opobo. Both Opobo and Bonny becomes independent city states or a war option whereby we seize both Opobo and Bonny and take even more land. Peace is the best. I know that both Opobo and Bonny have both Igbo and Ijaw heritage of a truths but if they try to be selfish then we seize both and more

AlexBells:

Opobo, Bonny situation would be settled when the time is right. For now we have the Federal Republic of Nigeria as a gift from our heroes and ancestors. If the division of Nigeria becomes eminent in our time. Then There are three workable option in Opobo and Bonny. The Ijaws can keep Bonny while we keep Opobo. Both Opobo and Bonny becomes independent city states or a war option whereby we seize both Opobo and Bonny and take even more land. Peace is the best. I know that both Opobo and Bonny have both Igbo and Ijaw heritage of a truths but if they try to be selfish then we seize both and more

I just want you to know this truth...you cannot seize what belongs to you.

AlexBells:

Opobo, Bonny situation would be settled when the time is right. For now we have the Federal Republic of Nigeria as a gift from our heroes and ancestors. If the division of Nigeria becomes eminent in our time. Then There are three workable option in Opobo and Bonny. The Ijaws can keep Bonny while we keep Opobo. Both Opobo and Bonny becomes independent city states or a war option whereby we seize both Opobo and Bonny and take even more land. Peace is the best. I know that both Opobo and Bonny have both Igbo and Ijaw heritage of a truths but if they try to be selfish then we seize both and more

You cannot be an Igbo person and at the same time be of this position. Bonny people claim an Igbo descent right from the beginning. Any little Ijaw in that island is of recent, non-indigenous settlement. You cannot separate Bonny from Opobo. They are of the same Igbo stock. Put together, both Bonny and Opobo are the Ubani tribe of Igboland having been derived from the Ngwa and Ndoki sections of the Igbo nation.

AlexBells:

Opobo, Bonny situation would be settled when the time is right. For now we have the Federal Republic of Nigeria as a gift from our heroes and ancestors. If the division of Nigeria becomes eminent in our time. Then There are three workable option in Opobo and Bonny. The Ijaws can keep Bonny while we keep Opobo. Both Opobo and Bonny becomes independent city states or a war option whereby we seize both Opobo and Bonny and take even more land. Peace is the best. I know that both Opobo and Bonny have both Igbo and Ijaw heritage of a truths but if they try to be selfish then we seize both and more

You cannot be an Igbo person and at the same time be of this position. Bonny people claim an Igbo descent right from the beginning. Any little Ijaw in that island is of recent, non-indigenous settlement. You cannot separate Bonny from Opobo. They are of the same Igbo stock. Put together, Bonny and Opobo are the Ubani tribe of Igboland having been derived from the Ngwa and Ndoki sections of the Igbo nation.

Ijaw is south south, look at Ebonyi and imo.

Donarozzi:


You cannot be an Igbo person and at the same time be of this position. Bonny people claim an Igbo descent right from the beginning. Any little Ijaw in that island is of recent, non-indigenous settlement. You cannot separate Bonny from Opobo. They are of the same Igbo stock. Put together, Bonny and Opobo are the Ubani tribe of Igboland having been derived from the Ngwa and Ndoki sections of the Igbo nation.

Is not as simple as you are thinking, sometimes you need divine wisdom to lead, I train as a politician and military tactician, if Nigerian division becomes eminent, there’s need for a round table discussion between Igbos and Ijaws on how to settle Opobo and Bonny situation. If you claim outright it that the two independent city state belongs to us then you eliminate a position of peace and create a potentially brutal war. King Jaja founded Opobo, both Bonny and Opobo were once independent city states.

We are talking about a people here and not some object. They have feelings and they have preference. So all peaceful option would be exhausted. On the other hands, the Ijaws are our biological closest relatives, they are our cousin and have more DNA relation with the Igbos than any other group. Given a no soft landing may lead to great Damages in Bonny and Opobo. There could be option for referendum but two territories solution is possible. I understand what you feel as an Igbo Person but I’m a diplomat in this case, two state solution is possible in Opobo and Bonny in the event of Nigeria division.

ijawcitizen:
My Ijaw brothers, una try o.
Me I no even get time for lunatics like this.
Person wey him head no correct no dey hard to know. Him Neva grow leave him small pikin sense.

I don't still understand how igbos feel comfortable dragging lands with other ethnic group.

If we are to look at it now, AlexBells is not from Bonny, neither is he from Opobo or Rivers. But look at the way he's dragging land with the owner

Donarozzi:


You cannot be an Igbo person and at the same time be of this position. Bonny people claim an Igbo descent right from the beginning. Any little Ijaw in that island is of recent, non-indigenous settlement. You cannot separate Bonny from Opobo. They are of the same Igbo stock. Put together, Bonny and Opobo are the Ubani tribe of Igboland having been derived from the Ngwa and Ndoki sections of the Igbo nation.

Bonny and Opobo do not have igbos descent, you people should stop all this fake news.

Opobo/Bonny is owned by Ibanis

This are the same people who are claiming Fubara is an Igbo man

Paraman:
I don't still understand how igbos feel comfortable dragging lands with other ethnic group.

If we are to look at it now, AlexBells is not from Bonny, neither is he from Opobo or Rivers. But look at the way he's dragging land with the owner

Statehood is not about where you are from, Putin is not from Crimea

AlexBells:
Statehood is not about where you are from, Putin is not from Crimea

Crimea has been part of Russia before Putin was born. The Russian empire annexed Crimea in 1783.

There's never a point in time Ibanis in bonny/Opobo and igbos were united under one country before the arrival of the British.



Stop claiming people land.

Paraman:
Crimea has been part of Russia before Putin was born. There's never a point in time Ibanis in bonny and opobo and igbos were united under one country before the arrival of the British.

Stop claiming people land.

Opobo and Bonny was part of Eastern region possibly before you were born

AlexBells:

Opobo and Bonny was part of Eastern region possibly before you were born

Opobo and Bonny was lumped into the Eastern region by the British before you were born. Just the way Nigeria was created by the British before you were born.

Eastern region was created by the white men in 1954, not by an Igbo man.

You can not be claiming Opobo or bonny is Igbo land because they found themselves in the eastern region alongside igbos.

Only Indigenes of Opobo and Bonny can decide what they want, not an Igbo man like you that is not from Bonny or Opobo.

Paraman:
Opobo and Bonny was lumped into the Eastern region by the British before you were born. Just the way Nigeria was created by the British before you were born.

Eastern region was created by the white men in 1954, not by an Igbo man.

You can not be claiming Opobo or bonny is Igbo land because they found themselves in the eastern region alongside igbos.

Only Indigenes of Opobo and Bonny can decide what they want, not an Igbo man like you that is not from Bonny or Opobo.

That is their problem they will say that the British Colonial Masters created Nigeria illegally but the same Eastern Region that the same British created by lumping all Ethnic Groups in the East together without anyone's permission they see as legal

Is that not terrible hypocrisy

christistruth01:


That is their problem they will say that the British Colonial Masters created Nigeria illegally but the same Eastern Region they the same British created by lumping all Ethnic Groups in the East together they see as legal

It that not terrible hypocrisy

Don't mind hypocrites like AlexBells and his fellow Igbo brothers and sisters.

They condemn the white men for the creation of Nigeria but they are okay with the white men creating eastern region.

The Ijaws, Efik, Anang, Ikwerres and other minorities in the old eastern region were not consulted before the eastern region was created by the British.

Developer aka land grabber doing what they know how to do best

Paraman:
Opobo and Bonny was lumped into the Eastern region by the British before you were born. Just the way Nigeria was created by the British before you were born.

Eastern region was created by the white men in 1954, not by an Igbo man.

You can not be claiming Opobo or bonny is Igbo land because they found themselves in the eastern region alongside igbos.

Only Indigenes of Opobo and Bonny can decide what they want, not an Igbo man like you that is not from Bonny or Opobo.

This man again, it seems you were coursed with Land matters. are you into Omonile business?

Afamed:
Developer aka land grabber doing what they know how to do best

Binis founded Lagos and you land grabbers took it from them when the British arrived Nigeria, I'm glad all the secret has been exposed by the Great Bini king. shameless land grabbers from south waaste

Paraman:
Don't mind hypocrites like AlexBells and his fellow Igbo brothers and sisters.

They condemn the white men for the creation of Nigeria but they are okay with the white men creating eastern region.

The Ijaws, Efik, Anang, Ikwerres and other minorities in the old eastern region were not consulted before the eastern region was created by the British.

Can you be a man enough to enter Opobo and make this statement if you will not get launched like a common criminal... stop looking for Land matters all over Nairaland and other sites

Paraman:
I don't still understand how igbos feel comfortable dragging lands with other ethnic group.

If we are to look at it now, AlexBells is not from Bonny, neither is he from Opobo or Rivers. But look at the way he's dragging land with the owner

Are you from Lagos?

Why dragging Lagos with bini tribe when you are from Osun??

Afamed:
Developer aka land grabber doing what they know how to do best

Lagos and kwara Gone!

We are expanding.

They are taking yours!