MrBrownJay1:


i fully disagree with the above.... when you travel the world you see way less of these very arrogant beautiful women that you easily find in Africa. you just have to approach a beautiful woman in Nigeria and say:"excuse me", and you will see her automatically frown her face before even knowing what you have to say. these 9ja women have been programmed by the environment they live in, because this almost NEVER happen in the west (not even in other poor countries outside Africa).

the problem in Africa is that, men have been using MONEY as a tool to control/approach women ; MONEY has been used to dictate how a real man should be, and if you aint got no money, you are supposedly not even "alive". these women learn this shiit from AFRICAN MEN, and therefore i can only blame African men for the state of mind of these women. why would a beautiful 9ja babe even give a broke dude a chance when she knows that her value lies with these men with MONEY?

since all people in 9ja are quick to say "make money and women will come" why do you think 9ja woman in general (let alone the beautiful one) dont value broke men?! the attitude from the beautiful ones comes with the territory.

Tradepunter2:


Leave that one with his nonsense assertion.... Character any time any day.... A beautiful lady with bad character will kill you on time.... My wife wasn't my ideal but ooo boy, I have grown than I could ever imagine.... She's like a last born in my family.... So also am I like a senior brother in her family..... But prior to marrying her I was engaged to a beautiful lady.... She was evil personified.... Every man wanted to fk her.... And she used those to her advantage to manipulate in order to get her way.... Years down the line she's still confused and single and am married with 2 beautiful girls.....

CHARACTER DWARF BEAUTY.... CUZ THE BEAUTY CAN become UGLY WHEN THE CHARACTER IS USELESS

MyAmericandream:


Do you have all these that you just mentioned?

MrBrownJay1:
it should never be character over beauty.... but instead beauty WITH the right character. choosing an ugly wife that has the right character is as useless as having a beautiful dumb wife

casualobserver:
We are talking about Nigerian women, once you get to a certain age you understand their BS.. only boys chase after women, if you are successful in life ( don’t equate this to money though money tends to come with success) or going places, women chase after you.

To an extent, I agree with you on women from other countries especially other African countries but the reality is as a Nigerian you are better off marrying a Nigerian. Nigerian women are no different from Arabs, Indians etc. Women who marry outside their race are low value women usually because men from their race/ ethnicity/ tribe won’t marry them. Although Nigerian women are a pain in the ass generally don’t get seduced by the approachability of women from other races, all these easily approachable women from other races/ countries are usually women you don’t want to marry. They are as easily approachable to other men as they are to you.

This discussion was not about money but since you mention money, as a man (not a teenager) if you have no money you have no business trying to marry another man’s daughter.
The other thing I will say is a woman who is happy with a broke man should be dumped. You don’t have to have money but you must have potential. A woman who is happy to stay with a man who is broke and has no future will keep him broke.

Moniya4Real:
But why is it almost practically impossible to find a woman with these qualities: Facial beauty, Normal height, beautiful skin, big, pointed boobs, big as…, nice steppings, loyal, Brilliant, intelligent, unselfish, loving and God-fearing and a VIRGIN? All these qualities I want in a woman, if POSSIBLE though.

Moniya4Real:
But why is it almost practically impossible to find a woman with these qualities: Facial beauty, Normal height, beautiful skin, big, pointed boobs, big as…, nice steppings, loyal, Brilliant, intelligent, unselfish, loving and God-fearing and a VIRGIN? All these qualities I want in a woman, if POSSIBLE though.

Gagare1:
I went for both and got both. I didn't have to trade one for the other.

Gagare1:
I went for both and got both. I didn't have to trade one for the other.

PECON1:
even my ex too, she has alot of laws set by her.i ran away for my sanity, she is now dating a man that drinks and smokes, the same thing she complained while she was with me, wetin concern me as I utilised my turn very well.

MrBrownJay1:


the above is part of why i am against this school of thought. regardless of how successful a man is, he should be able to approach someone respectfully and try to create a conversation. you could be a bricklayer and approach women, you could be a Uber driver and approach women. so long as a man takes care of his responsibilities in life, then i see no reason why he shouldnt approach women that he is attracted to. the moment a man says:" you need to be successful in life before you can remotely think of finding someone AND let them approach you" then IMHO you have missed the plot. A) so long as your rent is paid, bills are paid, food on your table, clothes on your back and you are gainfully employed, then i suggest you look for a proper MATE to share your blessings with (make sure she get her life in order too job/responsibilities etc)... but most importantly B) why wouldnt you approach EXACTLY the type of woman you want in your life, rather
than only choosing between the ones who chased/approach you?! be in control of your life.

You are free to approach, it is woman’s as perogative to ignore or reject you you. What nonsense you spew!!! A woman does not have to respond simply because you are respectful. I would be irritated if my woman is approached by an UBER driver..what nonsense? It shows she has no standards…no boundaries! What binds them together? Bricklayer…are you out of your mind? It is only a woman who has no value that allows herself to be approached by everybody. This is why white women are approachable, they have no value. Trust me the white women who have value (country club upper class white women) will not be allow themselves to be chatted up by a non-white. If you are approaching a white woman, you are dealing with a cheap common woman who will also be approached and entertain the next man that chats her up.



the important question IS: what do you seek in a future wife?! the majority of men would reply PEACE AT HOME and RESPECT FROM YOUR WIFE. so, as much as marrying a Nigerian woman is ideal, if you are more likely to get the above from a foreigner, then i would suggest you seek a foreigner each and every time... because these are values in marriage that are better than gold!

For men and women, if you cannot get from your own it is because you don’t measure up amongst your own, stop using people like the Kardashians as your yardstick, they are commoners, just like film stars and sports stars, there are schools and social clubs, they and their children cannot get into in the US with all their money ..same thing in the UK. .



my mention of money is related to Nigerian men quick to teach women that "money makes a man" while i fully disagree, as there are many "broke" men out there with no money because they took care of their life responsibilities (aka paid the rent, paid the bills, food on the table, cloth on their back etc etc) who will make great husbands. even you, what you are indirectly saying is that, a man who drives Uber and got no money to splash trying to woo his potential future wife, shouldnt get married".... while we all know that the majority of marriages in Nigeria is from PEOPLE WHO AINT RICH!

Oga there is a difference between being broke, getting by and being rich. The man you described who handles his responsibilities but has not much left May be struggling but he is not a broke man. A broke man is a man who cannot pay his bills, a broke man has no business with a woman. A broke student yes, not a broke grown ass man. Fix yourself before you chase after women….nobody said you have to be rich! Most men are not rich!

PS: you make it difficult to respond to you with the way you keep breaking up the posts. Too much wahala!

casualobserver:
You are free to approach, it is woman’s as perogative to ignore or reject you you. What nonsense you spew!!! A woman does not have to respond simply because you are respectful. I would be irritated if my woman is approached by an UBER driver..what nonsense? It shows she has no standards. What binds them together? Bricklayer…are you out of your mind? It is only a woman who has no value that allows herself to be approached by everybody. This is why white women are approachable, they have no value. Trust me the white women who have value (country club upper class white women) will not be allow themselves to be chatted up by a non-white. If you are approaching a white woman, you are dealing with a cheap common woman who will also be approached and entertain the next man that chats her up.

Oga there is a difference between being broke, getting by and being rich. The man you described who handles his responsibilities but has not much left May be struggling but he is not a broke man. A broke man is a man who cannot pay his bills, a broke man has no business with a woman. A broke student yes, not a broke grown ass man. Fix yourself before you chase after women.

PS: you make it difficult to respond to you with the way you keep breaking up the posts. Too much wahala!

Monman56:
I have very high specifications I want from my to be woman and I know its difficult to find. What point did you decide to settle for Character over beauty or did you get the high requirements you wanted.

No insults please

MrBrownJay1:


you sir, show me exactly what is wrong with Nigerian school of thought....
- if a man approaches a woman, she has all the rights to "respectfully" decline the offer to talk to this man. to be respectful of others in life (that may respectfully approach you) IS FREE!!!!!
- are you claiming that a woman in a r/ship with a Uber driver and/or bricklayer has no standards/value?
- are you claiming that a respectful Uber driver and/or a Bricklayer that (approaches a woman RESPECTFULLY) does NOT deserve the exact same respect as any other man on earth would?!
- what kind of yeye woman believes that she shouldnt be respectful to a Uber driver and/or a bricklayer?!
- so if i approach a woman respectfully, it will be written UBER DRIVER and/or BRICKLAYER on my forehead, abi?!
- so if a billionaire approaches your woman, you wont be upset (only Uber drivers would upset you), abi?!
- i can categorically STATE that you sir have never been to the west or simply you just look like king kong... the difference between Nigeria and the west is that people dont judge you (socially) by how you look, therefore any man in their social circle would be able to talk to them (whether Uber driver or Bricklayer). it doesnt mean that they are gonna date in the future, but at least they would be civil to one another, whether a bricklayer or Uber driver.



again, no wonder these women have such yeye attitude when men say the above you just wrote. funny how you would look down on women and their attitude when you confirm exactly the reason why they have such foul attitude.
there is nothing wrong (to fix) with a man who took care of all his life responsibilities... there is only something wrong with women who expect such man to have extra money, so that he can take care of them (under the guise of dating/marriage). if a man took care of his life responsibilities and the women (he goes after) took care of theirs, then this is a perfect match IMHO. only broke deluded women who come with NOTHING TO THE TABLE think like you do. no man/woman need more than to take care of their life responsibilities!



bro, thats because you say so many different things in the same post

Moniya4Real:
Almost dear but not All. I am literally good looking, tall with a nice physique, educated, financially okay, caring, God fearing and I make sacrifices a lot for people but I must admit I still don’t have it All because as humans, we aren’t perfect.

casualobserver:
The 1st part of your post shows you are a commoner or have the mindset of a commoner. One of the things I often tell Nigerians when they go abroad is…don’t think that because a white person can speak English, they are on the same level as you, assuming you are on any level. The problem with many Nigerians is the white people they interact with are the commoners. And they behave like commoners. The white people you are talking about are commoners just like a Nigerian commoners. The white person you are talking about does not have access to the elite of their society, they didn’t go to the same schools as children of senators business leaders , governors etc. they don’t have the numbers of these sorts of people in their address book. The equivalent white elite do not allow themselves to be approached by commoners because to begin with you will not find yourselves in the same social setting. When the Nigerian elite marry, they marry themselves. Its the same all over the world. It’s not about money, it’s about social class. People with class don’t mix with commoners either in Nigeria, Uk, USA, India, Lebanon, UAE. They don’t even stay in the sort of areas where the majority of Nigerians will stay. A friend once said, homes in London are small. I told him these are not the homes of your type of people, go to surrey, and see where the elite British live. They have servants just like we do back home. The people you are seeing are the commoners. The people who live in Ajah, Akowonjo, Ipaja, Abilene eggs, Amuwo and co. Imagine interacting with people from such areas and thinking you understand the real Nigerian elite? Those are commoners!!!

Whites marry whites, blacks marry blacks, Indians marry Indians etc etc. those who cross breed are generally commoners. Unless went to their schools, Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial, MIT etc etc, you wil not even get the opportunity to mix the proper whites. The oyinbo you went to school with at Georgia tech, north London, east London University etc etc are children of commoners. Those you are mixing with are commoners….commoners have no standards to begin with they would rather die than go to such universities. They are the equivalent of the Tonto Dikehs of Nigeria, that they may have money like Kanye and the Kardashians makes no difference. Their children cannot gain admission into the exclusive jack and Jill club that a black or white civil servant with pedigree on a meager $100k a year can. If you think that a bricklayer or cab driver should be able to approach a woman who has pedigree, then you are clearly a commoner and have never interacted with women of pedigree either in Nigeria or abroad. They will dismiss you without even saying a word.

Secondly you need to learn how to read and comprehend. I specifically said most people live to pay bills so your second paragraph is pointless. I have told you this is not about being rich. The only requirement for a man is that he must be able to fend for himself and his family. Otherwise he has no business with a woman….and any woman of value has no business being with him.

A proper Oyinbo woman, just like a proper Nigerian woman, Indian, Emirati, Lebanese, German, French etc will not give you the time of day unless you are from her social class and she can smell your class and pedigree from afar no matter how expensive your designer attire. In fact it is usually a dead giveaway of “common”.

MrBrownJay1:
it should never be character over beauty.... but instead beauty WITH the right character. choosing an ugly wife that has the right character is as useless as having a beautiful dumb wife

Columbine:
When you say one is ugly, what do you mean?

MrBrownJay1:


now you are truly showing an inferiority complex, swerving this discussion from picking a wife to now talking about marrying someone who is rich/famous/elite.
majority of white aint upper class nor elite, and just because a few dont want to mix, doesnt mean that these people are the representation of the white race. saying that because elite marry elite, it means white women that marry other races are "below" these elite, is so far from the truth, its funny! the problem you dont understand is that today the elites anywhere in the world are black yellow and green, the time when the elite were solely white is done and out (especially in the US). when you go to the country clubs, you see equally blacks, indians and asians (especially Chinese)... and even though Chinese have very little class, their money/power around the world open all the doors. go to any top elite schools around the world, and you will find you fair share of black/Asian/Indian kids.

but most importantly, who cares about these elites, they are the minority in the white population out there. in the US only, they make only 2% of the population... and truly, i wouldnt care less what these people do as it is irrelevant to this discussion. the majority of white people around the world have no problem with marrying anyone they are attracted to (whether black yellow or green)... and thats what matters here.



the above is such a sad post, truly sad! you living in la la land.... EVEN the royal family got mixed, thanks to prince Harry, and there is nobody above them when it comes to "elite". BWAAAAAAAH! sadly, you have all the right to believe what you wanna believe. to each their own!



again, your definition of "broke" man is (as you stated) a man with no potential, no future, while my definition of broke is anyone who took care of their life responsibilities and then have no more left to spend on irrelevant life frivolities.... not to be mistaken with a POOR man (who in my book) are men who cant take care of their life responsibilities. in my book, a broke man who meets a broke woman can easily have a great family life for themselves. his contribution with her contribution will support the family!



in the US, 98% of white women would NOT be elite, therefore they would be the majority and would easily find a man to marry whether common or not. the fact that you keep talking about these elite further shows your inferiority complex, as if these elite were better humans to marry than other people of their race.

casualobserver:
Like I said you have the mindset of a commoner nothing else need be said. That you think a woman can be approached by an Uber driver says it all, you and the women you think should allow themselves to be approached by anyone have no standards. I didn’t bother to read the rest of your drivel. I stopped when I saw the word rich. Again for the umpteenth time this has nothing to to with wealth…again showing your commoner mindset. Money money money…typical of commoners!!!

It is people like you that their wives end up sleeping with houseboys and drivers because you marry women without standards and boundaries.90% of people who marry outside their race or tribe do so because they don’t have what it takes to attract the best of their own! Deal with the fact!

MrBrownJay1:


bro, i am a commoner 100 times over, and proud to be... and as 98% of women in the US are commoner themselves, then i would expect these women to be approach by their peers, same in Europe or Africa. the fact that you believe that because 2% of the population are elite, therefore NO WOMAN should be approached by Uber drivers or Bricklayers (while the majority of the population are uber driver/bricklayer types), is the JOKE OF THE DAY!

the "commoners" are the majority of the population, not the way around! stop viewing your life in the eyes of people who dont even live in your world and/or dont want to mix with you.



please tell us how the 2% population will marry all the 98% of the population? duh!

AreaFada2:


Some will call you hypocrite but you are wiser, as I can see.
There was one babe wey dey panic me that year. Very pretty yellow pawpaw. Sha, we didn't end up together, for ever after as was planned. The sad story is for another day.

Today, her beauty is not as I used to see it. Perhaps because I see her more of a sister or old friend.

I now feel grateful it ended up that way despite the pain back then.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Character trumps anytime.

casualobserver:
We don’t come from the same strata of society so we can’t see eye to eye. Have a good day.

AreaFada2:


Some will call you hypocrite but you are wiser, as I can see. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Character trumps anytime.