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fellis: Are the last two options actually examples of healthy family relationships? The last one especially doesn't seem healthy at all to meno it's NOT healthy at all. I guess I worded that wrongly. I meant that the first relationship is the best followed by the second one. that last one is the WORST. |
Hahahahahahahahahaha! You're so full of sh1t! The idea that feminism made it easier for black men to date other races of women is laughable. It was increased civil rights and more income that made it easier for black men to date other races of women. Also how do you explain the amount of mixed raced kids born to African men and British women nowadays?seems like u don't even know what civil rights mean. civil rights movement was about blacks who wanted the government to enforce that was already laid out in the constitution that all men are equal including blacks (14th amendment). how can government enforce romantic relationship between people? relationships almost always bear on society norms. once women start working and are able to sustain themselves financially, they put less emphasis on men's income and are able to form relationships for other reasons. maybe the entertaining guy or the bad guy etc other factors that they couldn't consider before. maybe u should watch an episode of sex and the city a show that would not even EXIST in the 50s. or even the idea of coogars (older, financially well off women having relationships with younger or more financially dependent men). trust me, 90% of time I've seen an interracial couple with black guys in front of me at a store counter, the white woman pays. very interesting observation. same men that like to complain about feminism. seems to me like these men won't mind washing underwear or even and probably cooks and clean in d house too! again u can refer back to the malcolm x video because somehow u r expecting that black women should reject feminism. why is it ok for u to be financially dependent on a white woman but ur somehow ashamed if a black woman makes more or has power? don't know what you are aiming to gain from setting black women backwards and saying that they shouldn't aim high or be ambitious. i smell fish. did civil rights also create coogars and sex and the city? |
fellis: I think the cause of the problem of this discrimination is that many women still believe they need men in their lives to continue existing. They have been indoctrinated by society and religion to believe that they have to get married and submit to your whims for them to become accomplished in life.I agree. types of relationship in rank from healthiest to least healthy. -marriage between a man and women who are equally educated and treat each other with equal respect -single parenthood -benevolent slave master (man who intentionally marries a poorer or disadvantaged woman so he will be able to control her. but may not abuse her severely) -abusive slave master(the wife beaters etc fall in this category). |
Matthew briggs: I see them as women who wish they were men. Moreover fighting for the fundamental human rights of women in a society that oppresses them is something I support. To my knowledge Nigeria's constitution do not oppress women.of course you won't see all the violation of women's rights in nigeria because you are male and could care less. even some women don't see it. just like a fish who doesn't know that land exists. http://www.informationng.com/2013/01/dress-code-kogi-bans-female-teachers-from-wearing-trousers.html another stupid law created by african men in trying to control women as if they are children. why not just force all women to wear burqa like middle eastern country. in fact, ban them from walking in the streets. to go further, lock them all up. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304913/Ugandan-women-wearing-miniskirts-face-arrest-new-anti-pornography-laws.html |
most of the points in your comment can be argued against very easily. toshmann: I believe God made women out of men, to be loved by men. I believe in equal pay for men and women when they do the same job, I see it as human right not feminism.first of all, why do you use the word "girl" as a point of comparison to the word "men"? also, are men supposed to dress 'ugly'? all people, male or female, should dress neatly. besides the emphasis that women should spend a lot of time looking good wasn't always that way. there are periods in history when men put more focus on their looks than women. in fact, men in the 16th century europe are known to wear heels and fashionable clothes and wigs. u can see the remnants of this tradition in the wigs judges wear in courts and even in renaissance oil paintings. the point is that women should be able to decide for themselves how they want to look. In puritan societies, in fact, women are banned from wearing make-up, jewelry or looking "good". they are forced to dress very plainly and drab. this is also a way of repressing women by enforcing societal code of dressing or appearance on them. there are many ways to repress women. else, how would u explain that in some societies women are pressured to look good. whereas in other societies, women have to look plain. keep in mind, no rule whatsoever applies to men who can look however they want! gender roles are social constructs (man made) NOT biological. Feminism attempts to challenge the role of men in the social setting. While I'll be concerned about my male kids having girlfriends, I'll obviously be more concerned about my female kids having boyfriends. Bc boys don't get pregnant. Girls do. They are the ones who will drop out of school to nurse a bastard.this is the same argument pro-rapists make. when a girl is raped, they blame it on the girl and say things like "why weren't you covering up in a burqa" or "why were you walking down the street by yourself without a chaperone" etc. the rapist or sexual abuser goes scot free in Africa and may be even praised by other males .society condones sexual exploits by males and condemns women for the same. Africa as a continent has the highest rate of sexua.l violence in the world. when there is a government and rule of law, males that impregnate women will be forced to bear responsibility in form of child support and other means. this is enforced in western countries. that's why women can wear whatever clothes they want and there is no sexual repression for women in western countries. they are not made to feel ashamed of their sex. men are held to the same level of responsibility. also there is such thing as condoms, birth control pills, and abortions. Of course girls are under greater pressure to marry bc their time is limited. This is common sense. Men can delay marriage even up till age 50 and still have kids. How many women can do that. You can't beat nature.why are girls under pressure to get married? again you use the word girls and men on the same level. are we still living in a world where 50yr old men marry 15yr old girls? also, fertility rate and sexism have high correlation just so you know. if you visit a society where women are giving birth to 4-10 kids per woman, the level of sexism and horrible treatment of women will be much higher than societies where average number of kids per woman in around 2 kids (western countries!). that says a LOT. Statistics show that marriages where the woman earns more than the man are more likely to breakdown.can you post that statistic for me to see? and who told you men "lead" in relationships? behind closed doors, at least 50% of relationships are led by women (all things being equal ex finances) leadership is mostly a personality trait. not a gender trait. Maybe in Africa where women are repressed and forced to act "meek" but if we went by nature, leadership will show in equal rates between men and women. ex. men who show leadership seen as leaders. whereas women who show leadership seen as "bitchy" again, sexism at play. Now I love chimamanda but when she complains about girls being asked to sit properly, close their legs . I'm appalled. What's wrong with her. Next she will want to challenge men and urinate upwards. Or ask for similar urinary facilities in the female bathrooms.again, this is the pro-rapist argument you are making. a man is allowed to sit comfortably while a woman is made to assume contortions that very uncomfortable just to "protect" herself from men. if urinating upwards is the most comfortable position for a woman to urinate. then YES women should urinate upwards. This is not about women becoming men. but about women gaining basic common sense rights that are withheld from them in sexist societies. Chill sister, estrogen and testosterone no be de same. The middle finger is not the same as the thumb but all them fingers work together to form an efficient hand.true. no one is asking that women become men. just challenging sexism which exists in our society. may men don't want it. why should they? they are benefiting from the system and they will fight to protect the status quo. |
Black Kenichi: I guess you haven't heard of World War 2, the bloodiest war of human history. Women worked all types of jobs as the brave men had to fight and die in that god awful war. Funny how feminists never seem to mention that event!lol. they worked to build all the machines and tools for war duh and when d war ended, there was a FULL BLOWN propaganda to kick them into the kitchen so that the men can resume working. trust me, the main reason for the second wave feminist movement was as a result of the backlash of d propaganda of the 40s ad 50s. where women were made into housewives and baby-makers (this was the babyboom era too). imagine, d most popular show of the time was "father knows best" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Knows_Best today, ppl look back to those times n mine mine LOL what an era. mother's little helper - another cultural phenomenon of that time http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070109120331AAX4sIr http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090905090233AA8aFxd |
who said madela was the greatest african alive? he's great. but I won't consider him the greatest. I hope he can RIP when the life support comes off. he will indeed be missed. |
Black Kenichi: There are plenty of people that feel fulfilled doing housework.true. not all women are overly ambitious.but for those who are, they should be given the opportunity to thrive as well. trust me, this is for men's gain as well. imagine if all women had to be housewives then only rich men will be able to marry pretty wives since u need to be able to financially support her. nowadays, women can work and contribute to the family! so they are less likely to chose men based on his income. in fact, black males should be especially thankful for feminism because if not for it, u won't have access to many women even of different races if u don't make good money!! |
ShyM-X:language is part of culture. if feminism isn't in "our culture" then you can make the same argument for many other things that we do that isn't part of our traditional culture. why do we accept english language. but we can't accept women's rights? on another level, language itself can be sexist. but I won't go into that. All I can say is that the bible translation that i use is gender-neutral I guess the assumption when written language was formed is that only men will have access to written material so pronouns are male gender heavy. which makes sense because not long ago, women did not have access to education. |
of course in the 40s and 50s, women were kept out of the workforce so you didn't see any of this going on strictly because women just weren't given an opportunity to work except maybe as secretaries,flight attendant etc so called "pink collar" jobs where they were always subordinate to men which re-enforced d idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink-collar_worker |
Black Kenichi: At the bolded - The most laughable thing ever that only goes to show that hypergamy has nothing to do with men promoting it as much as who women perceive as the top dogs.I just made a post before u posted this so u might want to read it for better understanding. even african men when they first come to america are always resentful of the idea of women not being submissive so they go to an african village to find an uneducated, poor woman who will be "submissive" and then 6 yrs later after she has gotten her greencard, she will dump him and gain her freedom! usually it starts with fights once she becomes gainfully employed and no longer financially dependent on the husband. she starts to resist being treated like a child or subordinate. this is not a feminist woman. just a woman with common sense. feminism at the end of the day is about common sense anyway. all of these should be common sense. women aren't slaves or servants. esp if she has a job and is not financially dependent on a man. this is why financial security is a big deal. |
summary: the faster men start to recognize women as equal partner in marriage, workplace, society at large, the better for them and society as a whole. |
these women smiled as they worked not because they enjoyed it but because they typically came from lower class families and marrying up was a good deal in exchange of doing housework and playing the stupid submissive wife. educated women were shunned. like I said, by the 60s, there was a backlash even among these women who were previously happy to be housewives. LOL. [img]http://3.bp..com/_hek7hKOiBvY/TFuYDmHns1I/AAAAAAAAADA/LdX7Qp0X_tg/s320/01324.jpg[/img] of course nowadays, the extremely sexist males will tend to order their submissive brides(usually 20yrs younger) from russia and asia. u can guess that divorce rate is very high for those couples. those oppressed women eventually leave d marriage. |
men promoted the idea of hypergamy because they were threatened by educated women. that idea is very speedily going away. 30% of women today marry down. the rates of "marrying down" is much higher among black females than whites. which makes sense since many black women have less choice than to marry down if they want to marry at all. LOL unless they marry outside their race. chances are if you end up marrying a black woman (or any woman for that matter. considering that you are a black male), she has a good chance of making more than you! so if anything, it is black males who need to let go of traditional sexist notions. most educated white males have gotten rid of that sexist notion which is why educated couples are now likely to marry each other whereas 50yrs ago, the educated male despised the educated female and will prefer to marry from the lowerclass. the only good thing about that set up is there was more upward mobility for women. but it was sexist nontheless. those housewives fought against it eventually. which led to the second wave feminist movement. I guess they got tired of playing dumb and submissive ![]() |
Black Kenichi: LOL at the bolded: The day that happens is the day that pigs fly! It's usually the feminist influenced women that want the on top alpha male guy the most.if you read the article, you will find that it is men who promoted this idea to begin with. feminists do not support it. read the part in the article where 'hypergamy' is mentioned. if u can't find it, use the "find" feature on your browser. |
Certainly, some guys are still threatened by a woman’s achievements. But scaring these types off might be a good thing. The men most likely to feel emotional and physical distress when their wives have a higher status or income tend to be those who are more invested in their identity as breadwinners than as partners and who define success in materialistic ways. Both these traits are associated with lower marital quality. Few women really want to marry a man whose penis rises and falls in tandem with the size of his paycheck or the prestige of his diploma. Yet when the journalist Liza Mundy interviewed young women for her forthcoming book on female breadwinners, she found that most wanted a mate they could “look up to” or “admire” — and didn’t think they could admire a man who was less educated than they were. During a talk I recently gave to a women’s group in San Francisco, an audience member said, “I want him to respect what I know, but I also want him to know just a little more than me.” One of my students once told me, “it’s exciting to be a bit in awe of a guy.” For a century, women have binged on romance novels that encouraged them to associate intimidation with infatuation; it’s no wonder that this emotional hangover still lingers. Valentine’s Day is a perfect time to reject the idea that the ideal man is taller, richer, more knowledgeable, more renowned or more powerful. The most important predictor of marital happiness for a woman is not how much she looks up to her husband but how sensitive he is to her emotional cues and how willing he is to share the housework and child-care. And those traits are often easier to find in a low-key guy than a powerhouse. I am not arguing that women ought to “settle.” I am arguing that we can now expect more of a mate than we could when we depended on men for our financial security, social status and sense of accomplishment. But that requires ditching the Lois Lane syndrome, where we ignore the attractions and attention of Clark Kent because we’re so eager for the occasional fly-by from Superman. Stephanie Coontz is the author of “A Strange Stirring: The Feminine Mystique and American Women at the Dawn of the 1960s.” http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/opinion/sunday/marriage-suits-educated-women.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 |
One reason educated heterosexual women may worry about their marriage prospects today is that overall marriage rates have been slipping since 1980. But they have slipped less for educated women than for anyone else. Furthermore, college-educated women, once they do marry, are much less likely to divorce. As a result, by age 30, and especially at ages 35 and 40, college-educated women are significantly more likely to be married than any other group. And according to calculations by the economist Betsey Stevenson, an educated woman still single at age 40 is much more likely to marry in the next decade than her less educated counterparts. Even for women who don’t marry, it’s better to be educated; a 2002 study found that never-married white women with more education than average lived “the longest, healthiest lives of all groups.” ONE of the dire predictions about educated women is true: today, more of them are “marrying down.” Almost 30 percent of wives today have more education than their husbands, while less than 20 percent of husbands have more education than their wives, almost the exact reverse of the percentages in 1970. But there is not a shred of evidence that such marriages are any less satisfying than marriages in which men have equal or higher education than their wives. Indeed, they have many benefits for women. In a forthcoming paper from the Council on Contemporary Families, Oriel Sullivan, a researcher at Oxford University, reports that the higher a woman’s human capital in relation to her husband — measured by her educational resources and earnings potential — the more help with housework she actually gets from her mate. The degree to which housework is shared is now one of the two most important predictors of a woman’s marital satisfaction. And husbands benefit too, since studies show that women feel more sexually attracted to partners who pitch in. Speaking of which, educated wives also get better sex, whatever their partner’s educational level, according to the sexuality researchers Pepper Schwartz and Virginia Rutter. They are more likely to receive as well as give MouthAction, to use a greater variety of sexual positions and to experience orgasm regularly. |
Postwar dating manuals advised women to “play dumb” to catch a man — and 40 percent of college women in one survey said they actually did so. As one guidebook put it: “Warning! ... Be careful not to seem smarter than your man.” If you hide your intelligence, another promised, “you’ll soon become the little woman to be pooh-poohed, patronized and wed.” Insulting as it may have been, such advice was largely sound. Studying national surveys on mate preferences, David M. Buss, a psychologist at the University of Texas, and his colleagues found that in 1956, education and intelligence were together ranked 11th among the things men sought in a mate. Much more important to them was finding a good cook and housekeeper who was refined, neat and had a pleasing disposition. By 1967, education and intelligence had moved up only one place, to No. 10, on men’s wish lists. Men in the postwar period were threatened by the thought of a woman with more or even as much education as they had. One man who taught at a women’s college in the 1950s told me his colleagues used to joke that once they knew a woman had earned a Ph.D., they didn’t even need to ask what she had specialized in: clearly, it was in “Putting Hubby Down.” But over the past 30 years, these prejudices have largely disappeared. By 1996, intelligence and education had moved up to No. 5 on men’s ranking of desirable qualities in a mate. The desire for a good cook and housekeeper had dropped to 14th place, near the bottom of the 18-point scale. The sociologist Christine B. Whelan reports that by 2008, men’s interest in a woman’s education and intelligence had risen to No. 4, just after mutual attraction, dependable character and emotional stability. The result has been a historic reversal of what the economist Elaina Rose calls the “success” penalty for educated women. By 2008, the percentage of college-educated white women ages 55 to 59 who had never been married was down to 9 percent, just 3 points higher than their counterparts without college degrees. And among women 35 to 39, there was no longer any difference in the percentage who were married. African-American women are less likely to marry than white women overall, but educated black women are considerably more likely to marry than their less-educated counterparts. As of 2008, 70 percent of African-American female college graduates had married, compared with 60 percent of high school graduates and just 53 percent of high school dropouts. |
[size=14pt]The M.R.S. and the Ph.D.[/size] By STEPHANIE COONTZ TODAY women earn almost 60 percent of all bachelor’s degrees and more than half of master’s and Ph.D.’s. Many people believe that, while this may be good for women as income earners, it bodes ill for their marital prospects. As Kate Bolick wrote in a much-discussed article in The Atlantic last fall, American women face “a radically shrinking pool of what are traditionally considered to be ‘marriageable’ men — those who are better educated and earn more than they do.” Educated women worry that they are scaring away potential partners, and pundits claim that those who do marry will end up with unsatisfactory matches. They point to outdated studies suggesting that women with higher earnings than their husbands do more housework to compensate for the threat to their mates’ egos, and that men who earn less than their wives are more likely to experience erectile dysfunction. Is this really the fate facing educated heterosexual women: either no marriage at all or a marriage with more housework and less sex? Nonsense. That may have been the case in the past, but no longer. For a woman seeking a satisfying relationship as well as a secure economic future, there has never been a better time to be or become highly educated. For more than a century, women often were forced to choose between an education and a husband. Of women who graduated from college before 1900, more than three-quarters remained single. As late as 1950, one-third of white female college graduates ages 55 to 59 had never married, compared with only 7 percent of their counterparts without college degrees. Some of these women chose to stay single, of course, and that choice has always been easier and more rewarding for educated women. But the low marriage rates of educated women in the past were also because of the romantic and sexual prejudices of men. One physician explained the problem in Popular Science Monthly in 1905: An educated woman developed a “self-assertive, independent character” that made it “impossible to love, honor and obey” as a real wife should. He warned that as more middle-class women attended college, middle-class men would look to the lower classes to find uneducated wives. That is exactly what happened in the mid-20th century. From 1940 to the mid-1970s, the tendency for men to marry down educationally became more pronounced and the cultural ideal of hypergamy — that women must marry up — became more insistent. |
toshmann: 3. Feminism isn't really our culture.since you repeated this twice. do you realize that you are typing in english and english language is not African? what is Nigerian/African culture ? is our western system of government inherently African? Is the cloth you are wearing traditional? The house you live in, is it built from materials your great grand father used? Your occupation. if you are a white collar worker, do you realize that that job did not exist before colonization? and therefore it is unafrican? So why do you feel that women should be treated based on 1800s "traditional" ideas where as we live in a society where our institutions are western? IF england no longer forces its women to be subjected to severe sexist treatments (as it did in the victorian era when colonization began), why do u feel the need to appropriate this sexist culture and reject the others that do not benefit you as an african male? "our culture" who decides what "our culture" is? are you sure you are following "our culture"? examine yourself. who does the culture benefit? who does it discriminate against?who does it marginalize? the coservatives (traditionalists) are usually those who benefit from the status quo and therefore resist change. those who press for change are usually those who are marginalized in the present system. https://www.nairaland.com/1310503/akwa-ibom-outlaws-drinking-corpse-bath-water |
toshmann: I love you chimamanda but with all due respect I disagree with you on many issues here.WRONG -feminism is not a culture. it is a social/political rights ideology meant to tackle gender based discrimination and prejudice in our institutions. -feminism DID NOT start in the 60s. It only gained momentum in the 60s in the west because of the political atmosphere at the time ex. black civil rights movement and even gay rights movement were also popular in the 60s, african countries were gaining independence in the 60s. it was a very politically charged decade around the world. but that doesn't mean that any ideology "started" in the 60s. -If some men are skeptical about marriage and family values then that's because they are greedy and egotistical. They want to eat their cake and have it. ie have a wife who contributes financially to the home AND is submissive to the wishes of the male. IMPOSSIBLE. -Yes of course men and females are biologically different gender. But feminism demands institutional rights not natural rights. hospitals, schools, marriage institution, churches, law, corporations, language, court systems,political government systems etc are all man-made institutions/creations. they weren't created by nature. otherwise, Africa will be equally developed as Europe (unless u agree that whites have different biological make up than blacks which causes white folks to be more developed. YES some racists argue that whites have bigger brains) -of course it's an opinion of yours. and no feminist will ever agree with such misguided/sexist opinion. |
he looks older than her or at least her agemate. they fit each other and her daughter seem happy. |
@OP, na2day? tell us something we don't already know... |
4Willywilly: Yorubas and Juju are inseperable, Juju loves Yorubas and Yorubas loves Juju.and so what? I bet u r one those igbo catholics who puts a statue of "virgin mary" under their bed and feed it with kolanut and palm oil every day thinking they are being a good christian. |
all of u shouting "oyinbo dis oyinbo dat" do you realize that BF/GF means a different thing to oyinbo people? when oyinbo people say that they are dating, sometimes, all it means is that they have lunch together once a week.and then they will call it dating. then 4 weeks later, they will say they have broken-up. dating is fun and little commitment. which makes it stress free of course. abeg.in fact, I im 80% sure they are probably no longer together and she has a new boyfriend. mtchew.... even if they marry, each person has a choice to divorce easily. so it makes it easier to date and marry because u know u can easily call it quit anytime u want. Her newfound self-assurance has helped her start a relationship with apprentice painter and decorator Ricky, 22, three months ago, who she met through friends. |
female voters secured Obama presidency.the proof is in d pudding. It came as no surprise that the gender gap in the election was wide with a whopping 55% of women supporting Obama to 44% going for Romney. But it was not white women who supported the president’s re-election. It was women of color who made the decision that President Obama deserves four more years and we spoke loud and clear. http://www.policymic.com/articles/18954/election-2012-vote-results-prove-obama-is-the-first-feminist-president I will bet you having Michelle Obama and his two lovely children certainly helped. Obama is a family man. feminists are definitely not anti-family. that is a fallacy |
this is the website where u belong: http://mensrightsactivism.com/ http://patriactionary./ too bad the white male anti-feminists are also more likely to be racist. hopefully they will allow you to join. |
so you are a anti-obama and republican? that explains it all. hahaha ur angst against feminists and proove that you are member of MRA I'll call it the black MRA |
Black Kenichi: I am daft Probably because of genetics and years of PC indoctrination to feminist bs! ![]() clearly the indoctrination hasn't worked well. otherwise, u will be intelligent as hell. change ur ways and u shall see d light |
Black Kenichi: How does it?another foolish question. I'll have this picture be your answer. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Barack_Obama_family_portrait_2011.jpg/800px-Barack_Obama_family_portrait_2011.jpg |
fellis: This is very good news. I am glad more women and even men agreeing with gender equality.YUP! and I'm pretty sure 99% of those men are democratic white males. Obama won't be president without some white support after all. |
nearly three-quarters (72 percent) of Democratic women and a respectable 38 percent of Republican women identify as feministthis is a major SLAM for anybody who says feminism is a scam. |
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