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jaelz:
Please gimme answers to this with logical backings and proof to answer.

Last man standing is 73

ibtz:
Its obvious u r not Sound at all at all.

Look at dis.

3 distinct keys of a key A(meaning of a type of key) , means u have 3 keys of type A in your hand not one type A key, 3 type A keys. if 3 distinct type A keys explains the "A" type key(meaning those 3 keys have some or all attributes of A type) it doesn't matter, as far u have 3 keys, those 3 keys dont metamorphose into one, its still 3 distinct A type keys, there is not one but 3 type A keys. Hence d same thing with trinity 3 distinct gods of type God("God" meaning of a supreme being that has control over the whole universe ) still is 3 gods in your hand of type God(still a supreme being that has power over everything).3keys of type A key is 3 A keys. so 3 gods of type "God" is what oga 3 Gods.

3 God types is 3 Gods not one. simple as abc.

U see why i said u r not sound logically ba?

[quote author=9inches post=60033246]3 distinct |"instanceS"| of 1 time | explain | 1 time.
3 distinct | "personS" | of 1 God | explain | 1 God.
3 distinct | "_________"| of 1 key | explain | 1 key.

Can you see the loophole in your "key" analogy?

You are making 3 God types up; there are no 3 God types.

Again, come back your brain and fill the open space above, else you stick to exactly what I say.

Women and face-painting


Disclaimer: This is not hate speech.

Since "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for God, and because muslims sacrifice their meat to Allah (as far as I know), it would not be an "idol", but God Himself. We both worship God; only that Muslims do not have a theologically correct conception of God.

Vatican II said:

"The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."

Apostle Paul says we can eat it, because the Spirit that is in us is much greater than the whatever god we fear the meat was sacrificed to.
He also says we should not to eat it if and when it might lead your brother to fall. So if you are together with someone who might think you accept Islam because you eat halal meat, then you must refrain from eating it, in order not to tempt or mislead your brother. The Bible is very clear with this point.

I have probably eaten a lot of halal foods without knowing it because a lot of stuff is prepared in a halal way and we consume them unknowingly.
As long as I bless my food in the name of Christ. I'm good to go.

ibtz:
just look at what u wrote. ehnn

Just tell someone what u just wrote to test your intelligence.

Ask him/her if your point is correct. u r obviously not dat sound.

3 distinct "instanceS" (of time) is not same as 3 distinct timeS. Lol, dont make me laugh.

i have 3 examples of distinct keys but with your logic, i cant call dem 3 distinct keys.

Am sorry, but i cant argue with someone who is not sound logically.

3 distinct "instanceS" (of time) is not same as 3 distinct timeS. Lol, u r a clown big time.

3 distinct keys are 3 distinct keys. Your brain isn't yet back. Give it some time and try again.

3 distinct |"instanceS"| of 1 time | explain | 1 time.
3 distinct | "personS" | of 1 God | explain | 1 God.
3 distinct | "_________"| of 1 key | explain | 1 key.

See what's missing?

Give your brain some recharge time and come back again.

ibtz:
Any logical, neutral, reasonable person wud see dat my analogies are correct. U just cant accept it even though that analogy is clear enough. and u see u r not paying attention, i said there are 3 instances of time, so those instances are distinct from each other.
U only have d word "time" as a classifier for the present , past and future , meaning grouping dem together and calling dem, dey r all regarded as TIMES. present, past and future do not sum up to a single entity "time", the summation will b called times. i.e the present time, past time and future time sum up as what TIMES.(plural)
likewise trinity, father god, son god , holy Spirit god would b called gods not Single God.

Worship One God that is made up of One distinct being only, not 3.

I dont see how dats hard enough for u to understand.

I think its u who is not sound enough to understand this simple analogy dat can b explained to a child.

yet again
Salam Aleikum, and enjoy Sallah
Dont reject meat oo. Lol

1. 3 distinct "instanceS" (of time) is not same as 3 distinct timeS.
2. 3 distinct "personS" (of God) is not same as 3 distinct GodS.

Stop confusing yourself. Oya go recharge your brain and come back again.

ibtz:
trust me, i am paying great attention, i think its u dat needs to pay attention.

Pls pay attention to dis

Dis is your analogy. God the father is a part of God, God d son is anoda part of God, God the Holy Spirit is d last part of God. Hence d 3 gods make up one God. Hence God is a classifier for those 3 entities.

You see why I say you should pay attention. You're not getting it; keep trying.

Now dis
u tried to explain dat theory with time analogy, and i discredited you that present, past and future are 3 distinct times. How many time instances are there? 3. A total of 3 instances. For example u have 3 biscuits, just because dere is a word "biscuit" that classifies d objects in question. wud u den say that those 3 biscuits make up 1 biscuit. No.
but u can say there is a pack of Biscuits that contains 3 biscuits. Hence a pack of gods that contain how many gods?? 3. So meaning your 3 in 1 cant be used as one God. 3 in 1 still is 3 gods.

Now lets use anoda analogy
u have mazda, toyota, nissan. wats d classifier here?type / part of vehicle class
Now i want to group dem all at once into one entity, what do i call them VEHICLES. same thing with your trinity I have Father, Son, Holy Spirit. wats d classifier (according to u) type/part of God. Now i group dem all at once into ONE entity, what do i call dem gods. note d plural form.
Hence your trinity logic is disproved bruhhh.

Who were your teachers sef? What a poor job! Your biscuit analogy is hilarious; so is your mazda and toyota. Very funny.

Tenses (Expressions of Time) are distinct, not time itself. You aren't intelligent enough.

So there is only One God, the God of Abraham that created you and I, dat feeds u, clothes u etc. He is d only one worthy of worship.
The Jews call him elloh, d arabs call him Allah.
Hebrew and Arabic are quite similar in some respect because dey are semitic languages.

an arab says peace be unto you as Salam Aleikum, a jew says peace unto you as Shalom Aleichim.

Our Lord Our God is One ( i didnt say dat but Jesus did).
we muslims believe dat Jesus was born of a virgin mother and sent as a Prophet to the jews to set them straight. He was given the injeel, likewise moses being given torah and david was given zabur.
But still, i know u wud discard dis, afraid of change. but think deeply and u will know dat The God who created you is The Only One worthy of worship.
Salam Aleikum.

Correct. I haven't said anything different. Our God is One!

Nothing wrong with kids sitting on adults laps. You're taking it too far.

ibtz:
Oh now u r saying i didn't prove anything, after all my writing, i did not prove anything of course i dont expect u to accept my provings.
Lol, so u know u r scared of islam, hate it or not islam will continue to spread as it will b accepted by ppl wu have sense and can think logically not dose dat believe There is 3 in 1 God.

No, you could hardly prove anything because I kept refuting them all. Reason is because you haven't put in good time and effort to learn the quran and the bible. Anyway, such ignorance is expected of every muslim who still in this age of knowledge, believe the quran is of God.

Of course, I am very scared of terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. It is a very rational thing.

This verse again

Quran 2:145
And even if you were to bring to the people of the scripture(jews and christians) all the Aayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations etc) they would not follow your Qiblah, nor are u going to follow their Qiblah. Verily if u follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed you will be one of the wrong doers.

Exactly. Another of muhammad fabrication to confuse and deceive muslims, because he knew his lies will keep being refuted and exposed. This was "revealed" so that muslims would see something to fall back on when their lies are being refuted.

ibtz:
Oga hw wud jesus b God, and God the father is also God and u say, God is One.

bigger sense fall on u mehn; D

Already answered that. Learn to pay attention to save your own life.

ibtz:
O God!!!! u know what, i give up on you. just continue in your ignorance, choose watever you choose to believe. i repeat yet again, its for civil obligations but u choose not to believe. Believe watever, i dont care anymore honestly.

You should care for your soul in the afterlife. Seek for the truth before it's too late for you.

Peace.

ibtz:
Lol, U dont know shit about islam, and i have proven it to you. Your knowledge is still prejudicial, and u dont have an understanding of the Quran (any at all). Your knowledge is only off sites that seek to demonize islam so dat dey will win souls for christ, but yet islam is growing rapidly, but yet u are pained about its progression. i understand your hatred, but don't worry Quran has already talked abt it.

U neva even sabi contradictions wey dey your bible, but yet u claim to know what is islam is.

Abeg no make me laugh

You didn't prove anything, simply because you can't. Your ignorance of even your faith is showing. Even muhammad would be turning in his grave in utter disbelief. I will keep quoting you to make sure your display of ignorance on here is for a lifetime.

It is very rational to be scared of spread of a deadly malady like cancer, isn't it? And by the way, you can't demonize a demon.

ibtz:
Yeah and i showed you in your own bible where jesus is talking about d existence of only One God ("Our Lord God is One). I also showed u instances of "Son of God" appears in d bible.
Now u want to change it but u cant.

There is no contradiction in saying Jesus is God and there is only but one God.

Brain fall on you

princetom1:
My mind is open enough not to believe what does not originate from the Bible

Great! We are on the same boat then. I go by accurate biblical teachings.

ibtz:
There u go again, as far as it is not abrogated, it holds. what do u think is d essence of abrogation b4.

Evil exegesis of quoting Quranic verses halflly, without quoting its conditions. dats wat it is.

in your mind, u know they dont stand for islam, but because u want to make your own fair seeming, dats y u will not accept it.

Myself, like every other person who understands islam for what it is, know who are taking after muhammad and Abu Bakr.

ibtz:
O yes it was.

No it wasn't. That's even the first commandment. The dispute was if Jesus is God.

ibtz:
ok now i see where u get dis wrong.
i meant to say dey r both taxes together(not the same still) , but dey differ in name. i just did not put it in the right manner. (But u know, that i meant they r not d same) because i also wrote, it is muslims and non muslim tax, living in a muslim nation. i also wrote zakat is usually higher than jizya. so u know dat I meant dey r not d same

You were, and still is downplaying the fact that it was established as a form of subjugation of dhimmis until they turn to muhammad's allah.

Kudos to him, but I think he should have made a blanket statement rather than naming name.

ibtz:
Yeah lol,
but dont get it twisted, as far as it is not abrogated, it holds.

And u also owe me tuition and salary for all my lectutes

Only if it does not get in the way of a latter sura.

And again, Shekau and/or Al Baghdadi are on point in their own exegesis preference. In fact, these "brave" junood allah are more Muslim than lily-livered moderate muslims like yourself.

ibtz:
oh now u agree

It wasn't a disputed case at all.

ibtz:
Lol, dude i did not lie, u r not getting my point, i only said they are similar because dey are both taxes, i neva said dey r d same. i said zakat is obligatory on muslims and jizya is by non muslims unda a muslim authority i. e Muslim nation. i neva said zakat is for non muslims biko

ibtz:
yes but zakat is taxed on muslims as very obligatory. its only name dat differs. muslim and non muslim tax under a muslim authority i. e a muslim nation. And zakat is usually higher than jizya in percentage. and it is not as a punishment(anoda assumption) its for civil obligations as in any nation u wud pay tax.

Mind explaning?

ibtz:
oh i didnt see dat very well, at least i admit my error. But your logic is still baseless as far as d verse is not abrogated, it still holds.

You owe me tuition for all the lectures you received so far.

ibtz:
but yet again u r contradicted by dis



JESUS CONFIRMING ONE God
and he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew:19:17 (jesus himself confirming one God)
.And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Mark:12:32


ESPECIALLY THIS ONE BELOW
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark:12:29

Which one shud we believe now, the bible or the bible

We are on the same page here; there is only one God.

ibtz:
God damn it.. did i say dey were d same now ehnn. i meant in respect of word tax that zakat is a tax that is obligatory on muslims and jizya is for non muslims in a muslim nation. Goshh, i neva wrote dey were d same. they are both tax is what i meant. and i mentioned dat zakat was usually higher. Goshh

And you lied, because they are not the same. It's not only the names that differ.
"When a believer utters a lie without a valid excuse, he is cursed by seventy thousand angels. Such a stench emanates from his heart that it reaches the sky and because of this single lie Allah writes for him a sin equivalent to that of committing seventy fornications. Such fornications that the least of which is fornication with ones mother."

Na your koran talk dis one o. Even your allah has cursed you. Sorry

ibtz:
you r just been childish mehn.
So now in the medinan surahs, chap2, 9, 60 are of d same era. chap60 is a latter medinan surah
which supersedes chap 9. by your own logic oo, that means it has cancelled 9:29(not my logic, your unfound logic) . And now i am tellin u dat even if chap 60 came before 9, it will still hold water as far as it is not abrogated , but it came after chap 9. As far as a verse is not abrogated by another verse, it doesn't supersede or is not superseded.
here is my proof dat chap 60 comes after chap9
if we want to follow ur bigoted exegesis of the Quran that is fake.

"The 30 Surahs of the Medinan period, according to Noldeke (chronologically 91-114):2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 22, 24, 33, 47, 48, 49, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 76, 98, 110"

find in d link to read more.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medinan_surah?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C2575267317


so wu is ignorant now ehnn.

You are still the ignoramus because Sura 60 (Al-Mumtahanah) was revealed waaay before Sura 9:29 (At-Tawbah) which is the second to last sura before muhammad died. Sura at Tawbah precedes only Sura al-Nasr.

Jokes on you my student.

ibtz:
And yet u have contradictions in the following

SONS OF GOD

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job:38:7

Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Luke:3:38

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans: 8:14


JESUS CONFIRMING ONE GOD
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew:19:17 (jesus himself confirming one God).

And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Mark:12:32

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark:12:29 (this cannot get any better "OUR LORD OUR GOD IS ONE"


And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John:17:3

Christ’s divinity is shown over and over again in the New Testament. For example, in John 5:18 we are told that Jesus’ opponents sought to kill him because he "called God his Father, making himself equal with God."

In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

In John 20:28, Thomas falls at Jesus’ feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" (Greek: Ho Kurios mou kai ho Theos mou—literally, "The Lord of me and the God of me!"

Philippians 2:3-11
Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. 4Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.
5You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. 6Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. 7Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, 8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
9Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

ibtz:
i believe i once told u its not about interpretation, its quoting verses half way that these extremists use and i proved it. yet again u say we interpret as we deem fit.

i believe dis is ur quote

"Again, the verses were of different time with 9:29. I will also add that 9:29 also abrogated, in practice, 2:109 as well. Muhammad's ability to add or delete verses according to questions or issues at hand also shows the flexibility of the Quran
"Even classical islamic scholars accepted that Medinan chapters supersede Meccan, not only for chronological reasons, but also because the Medinan verses represent Islam during a period of strength as against it's initial minority stage."

End of ur quote

u were talking abt verses being of different times and 9:29 being a medinan surah superseded oda verses i was quoting and then i burst your bubbles mann.

So your point is baseless.

@bolded, where in my post you quoted did I mention 9:29 and other verses 60:8-9, etc as medinan and meccan? Paying attention is still a huge problem to you.
Let me break it down to your level. Medinan era sura supercedes that of mecca. But when it comes to contesting suras from same era, a latter sura takes preceedence.

You won't get tired of building a strawman and I will keep plastering your ignorance on here for posterity.

ibtz:
yes but zakat is taxed on muslims as very obligatory. its only name dat differs. muslim and non muslim tax under a muslim authority i. e a muslim nation. And zakat is usually higher than jizya in percentage. and it is not as a punishment(anoda assumption) its for civil obligations as in any nation u wud pay tax.

Your lie is of satan. Zakat is not same as jizya. They are also not used for same purpose. Jizya is levied on dhimmis (non muslims) living in an islamic nation. You stop paying jizya stops when a dhimmi converts to islam.

ibtz:
Jesus is a word of God not ward ooo. Kun faya kun (Be and it was). that is evidence of jesus creation, be and he was. because Allah can ordain anything, he only says "Be" i. e exist and it is i. e it will exist.
Quran 112
1. Say, He is Allah, The One.
2. The self sufficient Master, whom all creatures need.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten
4. And there is none co-equal or comparable to Him.

Its u dats need to read up d bible and see ur errors.

Read dis again

Jesus told his disciples to worship one God ("thy Lord thy God". I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me". Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God Matthew 19:16-17 Mark 12:32-34 John 17:3 Mark 12:28-30
Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven. Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of God. what is d definition of son?'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring"."A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person.""A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."There are also many verses in d bibledat call ppl son of God: KJV Read 1 Chronicles 22:10 Luke 3:38 Romans 8:14 Job 38:7
Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God and a Prophet sent unto the Lost sheep of israel.

And again, rest in peace

Jesus is the word of God with which God created all things. He proclaimed Himself "Before Abraham, I AM", remember God told Moses His name, "I AM". The Holy Spirit was there as well during creation.

John 1:
In the beginning was bthe Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’ ”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.

ibtz:
Yeah agreed, medinan surahs were revealed during the time of strength.
Now let me burst your bubbles Quran chapter 2 is a medinan surah. Quran chapter 60 is a medinan surah, hahahahaa. yeah a simple google search will help.


The verses i quoted are medinan surahs and are not abrogated. This has stamped my argument flawlessly. Oops sorry, Yet again u can see dat ur bigotry is out of order.


Characteristics of Medinan surahs
Following are some of the stylistic and subject characteristics of Medinan Surahs:
*.(Mention of 'Jihad' and detailing on its rulings) Take note of dis one up bruhh .
*.Details of Islamic jurisprudence and legal system as well as laws governing family, money transaction, international law and acts of worship
*.Mention of 'hypocrisy' and dealing with hypocrites.( especially ppl like u bruhhh)
*.Any verse that starts with يا أيها للذين آمنواO you who believe
*.Long verses
*.Easy vocabulary
*.Arguments with the 'people of the Book' i.e.,Jews and Christians. (check dis one too biko)
*.Strong judgement and condemnation of non-muslims. and i know u might want to twist the word "condemnation " but here is the meaning

The act of condemning or pronouncing to be wrong; censure; blame; disapprobation.


Rest in Peace Bruhh.

You see the problem you have now. You are always quick to jump on your keyboard without digesting my comments.
Where did you see me saying any verse mentioned here is meccan or medinan? Inability to decipher between a general statement and a specific one is an infirmity I least expected you to have.

Mentioning meccan and medinan was to buttress my point that muslims can willfully apply any of both the wsy they deem appropriate. Hence, the difference between "moderate" muslims and "extremists".

Listening and paying attention is a virtue you should really adopt.

ibtz:
O so u know non muslims stretch its meanings to SATISFY their bigotry yeah.

Yes I know it is used in such a way. Same way you are using the word "bigot".

2. Mehn yet again, anoda unfound assumption, now u r saying its for a given time to subjugate non muslims. Dis is d verse again for the umpteenth time. Tell me where u saw for a given time to subjugate non muslims. i dont undastand how tax collection is subjugating odas. Pls am tired

Quran 9:29
"Fight against those who believe not in Allah(arab pagans), nor in the last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e islam)from among the people of the scripture until they pay the jizyah with willing submission and are willing to pay it. "

Please, stop
concocting lies, i know u will not accept but just stop pls.

Jizya is not taxed on muslims. It is only meant for non muslims as a form of 'dhimmitude'. That is one of their punishment for not professing islam. Once they convert, jizya ends.

this verse again
Quran 2:145

And even if you were to bring to the people of the scripture(jews and christians) all the Aayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations etc) they would not follow your Qiblah, nor are u going to follow their Qiblah. Verily if u follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed yoy will be one of the wrong doers

Right. But don't you think it might be because the quran says you should "ask the people of the book" about what have been revealed?

ibtz:
No, u r d one dat has comprehension problems,one being existed before d other that is God. Jesus did not exist at the time of God creating the heavens and the earth and if u tell me dat he did den u r one big liar. so from God's words "Be and he was" Jesus was born to the virgin mary. its from dis instance that christians believe God fathered his child from mary. I mean God fathered his son from his own creation mary(is that not incest) and then allowed his alleged baby mama to marry another of his creations. does dat make sense to u oh sori my bad, it could to u because of watever reason. if jesus is God's son what does dat make Adam.
from ur logic, one being is God who is divided into three distinct persons, dat is still 3 gods. God dat destroyed nations for worshipping anything oda than him, for associating partners/oda gods with him. Dat God now has a son from his own creation mehn dat is double standards. Cant You Seee And it is not logical or rational at all.



Jesus told his disciples to worship one God ("thy Lord thy God". I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me". Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God Matthew 19:16-17 Mark 12:32-34 John 17:3 Mark 12:28-30
Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven. Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of God. what is d definition of son?'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring"."A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person.""A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."There are also many verses in d bible dat call ppl son of God: KJV Read 1 Chronicles 22:10 Luke 3:38 Romans 8:14 Job 38:7
Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God and a Prophet sent unto the Lost sheep of israel.

As much as I disregard the quran, it still says Jesus is the "word of God". The bible says so too. Now what did God create the world with? Word.
Do you want evidence of the Holy Spirit during creation as well?

You have a lot of quranic reading studying to do.