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fr3do:
And Muslims practice and preach those areas of the koran that prescribes violence unto infidels?

Yes, many centuries ago. Just like christians practiced similar instructions from the old testament in those days!

fr3do:
I expected condemnation of the newspaper, a boycott, a lawsuit or peaceful matches not incessant destruction of lives and property.

I agree. This is exactly what the Quran says, taking innocent lives is forbidden for Muslims

fr3do:
If violence is the way you make statements and corrections in the northern Muslim world, [/b]why won't those who are suspected not to be true Muslims get violence from those extreme Muslims?[b]

You seem to be contradicting yourself here. The bold part means it's ok for extremists in the North be violent towards those who they deem to be less than perfect Muslims. Whatever it is that you mean, I dot NOT support violence from any part, whether between Muslims, christians or people of different faiths.

fr3do:
Have Christians ever rioted after Sunday service? No
Have Muslims ever rioted after jumat prayers? Yes, severally

This is another baseless accusation against Muslims. If every Nigerian had as much hatred towards people of another faith as you do, this country would have been history for decades.

fr3do:
Violence does not pay!

Yep. Absolutely. I never said it did.

fr3do:
another generalisation by you this bastard, [/b]I'm just personally fond of using the word 'bastard'[b] it has nothing to do with all christians.
I'm still waiting for you to answer the questions I asked in that post where I fragmented your post.

Listen to your bible:
"From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh" Luke 6:45. Meaning that a good person produces good things from the treasury of a good heart, and an evil person produces evil things from the treasury of an evil heart. What you say flows from what is in your heart. If the word 'bastard' resides so abundantly in your heart, who do you think IS THE REAL BASTARD fr3do of course!

meccuno:
my guy.....am not a kid..and I have been following the issue of religious intolerance with muslims in the middle east.......there are people who might believe your theory about islam being a religion of peace but not me......christianity had its own share of religious killing.....but that was decades and centuries ago......but it can't be compared to the violence perpetrated by islamic religious extremist.........the day I would start believing that islam is a religion of peace is when saudi arabia denounces most of these extreimist,make sure they are caught and black listed.....the leaders in the north denounce boko haram on t.v in the newspapers and in the mosques on fridays.........come together with other muslim and northern leaders and fight boko haram to a stand still.......not until they do that,islam is a violent religion to me.....and that's my personal opinion

Muslims and Islamic institutions have on several occasions asserted that Boko Haram is not Islam, neither are they representing anything about Islam. The fact that Emir of Kano publicly advised people not to live in fear and to be armed in preparation for any Boko Haram attack, such as keeping simple fighting tools and praying for their destruction is why the latest attack on Kano Palace Mosque happened. There's hardly any Jumat service where prayers are not said against BH.

Same has happened in Saudi Arabia. You are wrong if you think that the government of Saudi and other Middle Eastern countries condone terrorism. But the fact that in all of these societies where terrorism exists, they're established and funded by rich powerful people of those same societies and thus it makes them hard to crack. If not, America alone would have thrashed them out long ago. So, don't expect Saudi Arabia to come and fight BH, no country will abandon its own internal problems and come and fight another country's war.

Islam is a religion of peace, whether you accept it or not.

meccuno:
I read comments of northern youths on online forum and what I see is that they believe that the bombings are done by CAN and GEJ.what kind of reasoning is that? ISIS,Al Queda ,Al Shabab,Boko Haram,Hamas,Hezbolah....are they all not muslims? And [/b]don't þhey represent islam?[b] at least that's what they claim to represent and peeps like u keep saying "islam is a religion of peace".I don't have a problem with islam but when muslims go about cutting peoples head,shooting randomly @ both christians and muslims, thing they have a problem....

Nooo! They DON'T represent Islam. Islam is indeed a religion of peace. The name Islam is derived from the word Peace. Those monsters are only satisfying their evil personal interests.

For example, Pastor Timothy Ngwu in Enugu impregnated at least 20 church members (including married women) and he claimed that he was obeying 'instructions from God' (Google it). Even though he's a Pastor and he said that God told him to do so, would you say that he represents Christianity? I'm sure your response is NO! And I completely agree. Of course he was using God's name as cover up to execute his evil plans.

Al Qaeda, Boko Haram and Co can wrongly claim that they're aiding Islam but they have all done Islam the greatest injustice (May God perish each and every one of them). Besides what do you expect them to say? That they're committing the murders just for their evil personal quests? They won't! Islam forbids killing innocent people absolutely! Where killing is allowed, it's meant as punishment for murder or for spreading (great) mischief in the land; and it's to be carried out by people who are appointed by the State and backed by the Law, NOT random criminals.

I'm happy you acknowledged the fact that these criminals are also killing Muslims, how in hell will they represent Islam then? Which religion will encourage the killing of its own? I hold the same opinion with you (that these killers have problems) and I pray that God destroys them and their sponsors soon), but I also believe that this administration has a hand in these evil plots, just like former administrations have done before now. I believe the present leadership may not have started it but they have hijacked it to foster their selfish ambition. Blaming it on religion is erroneous!

mikron:
if i can remeber correctly it is us the christians that have been on the receiving end of countless violence in the north, abi i talk lie? [/b]oritsejafor helped in his little way to lend his jet to the federal govt [b][/b]to bring in those arms for our [b]FEDERAL GOVT ARMED FORCES (since the west notably america refused to sell to us) and not for private use please, so please leave the man alone.

So, the Fed Govt now NEEDS help from individuals The jet was 'leased' to another company, that means he got paid! NO help involved!! Besides they claimed it was leased to cover his involvement. Wake up, this things are political and has nothing to do with religion. If it did, why would someone call himself a Muslim and kill fellow Muslims??

Also your claim that christians have been at the receiving end of Northern violence isn't completely true. For decades, even before Boko Haram, Northerners would enter a mosque, wait for Muslims to finish praying and kill them! My relative relocated from Kano because Northern Muslims were killing Yoruba Muslims. Shouldn't you understand that some powers are hiding behind religion to perpetuate evil for political gains? It's called 'divide and rule'. I don't have anything against christians but I do with those christians who readily judge Muslims because they fail to evaluate issues critically and see our problems in true light.

Dmacaw:
Lies! His jet did not smuggle any weapon into Nigeria stop the propaganda. Rather his jet was hired by individuals who had dealings with the NSA to travel to South Africa to buy weapons.

Why would a jet registered for the facilitation of evangelism be leased to another company for commercial purposes, as churches are registered under part C of the Company and Allied Matters Act as non-profit making organisations

Would you say the same if the jet belongs to a Muslim leader

CyberWolf:
And in your maggot infested brain, you think that your useless father will be proud of you for justifying the killings of people for any reason?..idiotticc mofo...4uk off my mention this bastard

You quoted me, yet you expected me to stay away from your mention? You're just plain dumb!

My religion abhors killing and so do I. The fact that I replied a poster who doesn't see anything wrong in desecrating the Quran and making useless and unwarranted cartoon about a sensitive issue, knowing fully well what such action can generate (I said they should STOP, Muslims don't do that) doesn't mean I approve of any of the unjust killings. It's NEVER right! Stop misquoting me!!

You also expect me also rain insults on your father the way you insult mine but I won't, because it's clear that at least, 10 generations in your father's lineage have failed. You need serious deliverance to lift that curse. My condolences

fr3do:
Bastard, so you are now generalising, we [/b]might[b] as well generalise that all Muslims are terrorists.
Trust me, when we all generalise, Muslims will be the worst hit.

Did I hear you say 'might' Christians [/b]have been [b] generalizing Muslims as terrorists since Adam & Eve!

What's it with you christians and the word 'bastard'? You can't seem to have enough of it. Is that what you learn in church these days? (Just asking). It's probably because it perfectly describes you

Finally, next time you want to react to a message, consider the whole context before judging. Go back and check, I added the word 'bigot' after christian to show that I was referring to those who are intolerant towards Muslims, and NOT ALL christians.That is NOT generalization but your hate towards Muslims will only let you see what you want to see! #MUMU

CyberWolf:
you are a bastard and prophet Mohamed (curse be unto him) is a criminal ..your Koran is a script of evil doctrine...idiotic muderfu***ker

By their words you shall know them

I won't stoop to your extremely low level and trade derogatory words with you. If you had an iota of respect for your own religion, you wouldn't spew so much nonsense about someone else's religious leader. And if your father is worth 10kobo to you, you wouldn't come here to talk about my own fatherhood in such a despicable manner. How would your parents feel about you when they see this nonsense that you've posted Proud? Perhaps they raised you to be like this. What a pity

But that comment pained you. Chai

Alcatraz001:
You are very silly for that statement Mr man,[/b]you think muslims have a monopoly of violence?[b]

We would settle these score by next year when Jonathan would secure another term as President mainly due to the hate being shown to him by muslims.He has not performed well quite alright but you muslims are making his administration ungovernable for no reason and he would have the christians supporting him due to fear of what will happen to them after his tenure.

NB:if you muslims perputuate violence next year,you will feel the heat.I swear down!

You are no doubt a very big foo*l. You think GEJ could have been president without the support of Muslims in the first place? Are you claiming that only xtians voted for him That's my problem with you bigots! When you benefit from millions of Muslims, they're just Nigerians, but when a few Muslims commit a crime, then you remember that they're Muslims. Besides, nobody is making his administration ungovernable, the leaders are the brain behind the bombings! The government is the REAL Boko Haram!! Why is it that you people are such hypocrites

In reference to your stupi*d point which I've bolded above, I think Muslims christians have monopoly of violence! You readily believe all the shi*t fed to you by your blood thirsty leaders, and are too eager to commit the evil that readily exists in you. Can't you see how happy you are to continue the blood sheds next year

So, because your fellow idio*t talked about Muslims causing riots about the humiliating Denmark cartoon, which is the ONLY thing christian bigots like you know how to do (causing chaos), and I asked him to have some sense of responsibility for the gross act of indiscipline taken by his fellow xtians, I am now silly
Your stupidit*y knows no bound

fr3do:
muslims are the aggressors, stop playing ignorant, have christians ever killed anybody because their Jesus was cartooned in denmark?
Do christians burst out in riots after sunday service? Have we killed anybody because they threw away the bible?

That's because Muslims practice what they preach. They're not pretenders who claim to love their neighbour and go ahead to do the exact opposite of what love represents.

Muhammad was depicted wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse in the Denmark cartoon which caused the riot that you referred to. What did they expect in return? Hugs and handshakes

You can choose however you want your bible to be handled, it's entirely your choice but Muslims hold their holy book (the Quran) sacred and anyone who goes ahead to desicrate it knows exactly what they're inviting; and that is certainly NOT peace! Besides Muslims don't engage in such profoundly dumb acts! Why do christians

Just like christians don't burst out in riot after Sunday services like you said, be informed that neither do Muslims go on riot after Jumat prayers. That's another foul, baseless and utterly dumb accusation coming from a christian! You can't throw stones at others and expect them to throw gold at you!

mikron:
Ayo Oritsejafor took photographs with mohammed yusuf not BH leader Shekau, dont mislead the public

You can deny that all you want but you can't deny the fact that his jet was used in smuggling ammunitions into Nigeria! If it was a Muslim leader that was involved in that manner, I can't even imagine what humiliation Muslims would have suffered in this country!

meccuno:
so you are trying to tell me that CAN is responsible for the bomb blast? Are the boko haram dudes not Muslims?

They're Muslims but their actions have nothing to do with Islam. What is going on is purely poitics, as indicated by the involvement of religious leaders such as Oritsejafor (he can't be involved in a movement to Islamize Nigeria). The problem is that most xtians don't want to be objective and address the problem where it exists but ONLY have interest in blacklisting Islam and unjustly accusing Muslims!

Government is the REAL culprit here!!

irynterri:
what then do you want to say about terrorists in arab countries? are they christians too?..this is their modus operandi they first start by killing non moslems and wen the government and their fellow moslems speak against them they feel "betrayed" and open fire against them or have you nt heard of mosques been bombed in islamic countries by their brothers who feel they are nt preaching the real islam?even if they bomb all the mosques in nigeria [/b] that does nt make them christians neither does it make them true muslims it only makes them indoctrinated devils..[b] u do nt knw wat the anmunitions found were used for or is it only b.h dat uses guns in nig. do u knw if it illegal ammunitons to protect political figures(though it is still a crime).,it is high time we stop blaming any set of pple,we hv to look up for ourselves,our leaders do nt care abt us they all have their kids abroad nd hence are nt living in fear in this country they only come back to throw expensive nikkai and white weddings,if anytin bad is abt to happen their mystery pot will inform them and they will escape the scene

Ten likes for your post. Exactly my point. I don't have anything against straight thinking people who realize that this is purely the brainwork of our political leaders. I'm only sick of people who come here to rain insults on Muslims when another fabrication pops up to blacklist Islam.

papaejima1:
Just throw away your internet connectivity. It is useless to you.
You don't know the difference between yusuf, shekau and a ND militant!

Did my internet connection also report the illegal arms purchase in Oritsejafor's jet

Descartes:
You see...

I can't trade word with you cos you will beat me with experience

Good for you to know!

bright007:
pls next time you are arguing always make sure you have a meter rule by the side so as to make straight your haphazard sense of reasoning....just my ten cents

If you must criticize someone's opinion, at least say something that is meaningful. Don't just post jargons and call it 10cents, because it is totally worthless

Descartes:
There is a great difference between intelligence and wisdom,

I implore you to seek the later

You say I have intelligence but lack wisdom. But you lack BOTH and that makes you worse off.

Descartes:
Continue...if that's what makes you happy.

What has happpiness got to do with this? If you didn't want a response, why did you quote me

You're just a pure i*diot. You should keep quiet because there's nothing useful in that head of yours!

fr3do:
if we are smuggling weapons, it is probably to defend ourselves against boko haram and northern aggression, if.

I'm sure you wouldn't say the same if the smuggled ammunitions were caught in custody of a Muslims leader, you would have said that they were meant for killing xtians. But now that a xtian is involved, they're meant for "protection"

Descartes:
You must be one of those who peddle lies to earn a living

You have not even put up any reasonable argument. How am I supposed to respond to this baseless nonsense that you've posted ?

fr3do:
Stop living in denial! The South can never be behind boko haram

They're just busy smuggling ammunition into the country to use as Christmas presents

It's high time you woke up from your slumber!

When they hear nasty lies about Islam, they don't hesitate to reign all sorts of insults upon Muslims without verifying. But when they're faced with facts about atrocities committed by their own, bigots say

Descartes:
You don't have evidence, stop misleading people

Descartes:
Both

Are you claiming that you didn't read in the papers or hear on the news that Oritsejafor's jet was used in buying ammunition from South Africa, or you didn't see his picture taken with Asari Dokubo and Shekau that trended for weeks on the net? If you're not lying and are so interested in getting evidence, you're internet savvy, do the findings on your own or ask around

Descartes:
Are you trying to act mischievously?
Where is your evidence?

Evidence of the picture or the fact that Oritsejafor's jet was involved in illegal ammunition purchases? Both made rounds for weeks all over the country

baLLoTBOxX:
his was a typo error. Perhaps he pressed the R button too hard.

What about the 'grammer' instead of grammar?

He set a trap for someone and it caught him. Simple!

emmanuel4758:
story for the gods

Shut your traps please!

saintvc:
I am sure fashola wrrote this.


Buhari can not construct simple grammer

The joke is on you!

It's WROTE, not wrrote

It's GRAMMAR, not grammer

You couldn't spell everyday words correctly and yet you jest about it. Big shame on you!

meccuno:
To make the bomb blast Look like boko doesn't represent islam.....mind you,sanusi the emir of kano wasn't around....

Bigots like you who say that BH represents Islam have been destabilizing Nigeria for ages

Why don't you explain why CAN President Ayo Oritsejafor was busy taking pictures with BH leader Shekau, if they're not allies with common interests? Why was his (Oritsejafor's) jet used in purchasing ammunition in that criminal manner when he's not a government official of this country

If a church is bombed you accuse Muslims. Now a Mosque was bombed and yet you accuse Muslims!! Now, who is the REAL terrorist?? Later you'll accuse Muslims of intolerance!!

bestestgirl:
Wow!!! you are really taking this personal! you neither know my age, gender, mental capacity nor achievement in life, but that doesn't stop you from the attacks anyway.
Is it not ironical that you are "correcting" me from attacking "the achiever" by attacking me in the most vile way possible?
Is it not also ironical that overage girls like you with the mental capacity of Albert Einstein come here to drink paracetamol for the person who does not know you exist or will exist even in your next 10 lifetimes?
I wont bandy words with you cos I'm waaay above it, and since you are incapable of being civil, I wont answer any of your mentions again
Do enjoy the rest of your day

Running away so quickly

You saw my comment as an "attack in the most vile way possible" but you see nothing wrong in calling someone's father "okporoko" Shows how "civil" you are! I don't need to ask your age, mental capacity nor "achievement in life"; your comment says it all

At least I took paracetamol for someone who isn't aware of my existence, thanks for the reminder. See you taking Gamallin 20, yet you didn't take it personal. I guess GEJ is your Uncle Mtcheew!

#EnjoyingTheRestOfMyDayThanks

bestestgirl:
Delicious fat Catfish

You think you're doing GEJ good but that was a failed attempt at its best! In GEJ's voice: NO THANKS!

Meanwhile, okporoko is even costlier, and respected more than catfish amongst your people.

Underage guys like you without mental capacity for useful contribution just come here to post pure insults on achievers whose position you can never reach in 10 lifetimes

The fact that you called GEJ "fat" is absurd but amusing ... The joke is on you!

bestestgirl:
I don't know why, but this man's picture always reminds me of Okporoko....

What does Jonathan's picture remind you of?

blakky97:
Nairaland is gradually turning into a male chauvinist play ground. All topics that show women as negative creatures make front page, and get too much attention. Why should there be a topic like: disadvantage of being nice to women. We re in a modern world now, some women are far above men socially, mentally, financially and what have you. It takes a proud man to think he's superior to somebody on account that she's female. A woman in an oil company for instance is far above those men with dried bier bier and big dirty long sleeve shirts in faded trousers and filed shoes still telling themselves " I won't marry her if... I won't be nice to women because,.." Its time to open our minds and see life as real as it is rather than as we wish or imagine it to be.

Don't mind their bragging! Most of the guys fumbling here don't have nerves in real life . That's why they're so endless about their bravery on NL.

One important thing they've forgotten is that they are responsible for the nasty attitudes of most of these ladies. When a woman goes all out and gives them everything they want, they call her desperate, turn her to a door mat and start behaving like a prize to win; whereas they run after the so called nasty girls like a puppy running after a piece of bone!