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Good to see Meyers Leonard getting another shot. I feared he was done in the league thanks to rubbish cancel culture but it looks like he's gotten another shot.

But man this Bucks team is huge!! They're a f
Throwback to the 90s. Even their guards are big.

Giannis, Leonard, Lopez, Portis. That's 4 guys 6'10 or bigger. Any night your shots are not falling good luck getting rebounds

Kaycee54321:
I don't think that opinion came from suspicions that Tinubu himself would do that. The issue is that the man is old and may not be able to firmly draw lines where/when needed.

Plus his vice has very good PR with those pushing for the Islamisation agenda. Na the issue of e vice dey worry me pass sef. If na economic reasons, I fit no too fear. Na make we no turn Somalia in shortest possible time be the issue...

And trust whitie, they'll sell us all the ammo we need to push the Lord's work if it comes to that. Money must be made.

They think they are voting Tinubu, meanwhile they are voting Shettima

Expert17:
So Tinubu thugs destroyed Tinubu's Lagos

The people scattering and snatching ballot boxes in Lagos are they Obi's thugs? Make una dey serious sometimes.

BlueRayDick:
People will tell themselves anything to suit their agenda .

We all have our personal agenda but once once let's be giving honesty a chance

Kaycee54321:
Dem beat obi for Ekiti like who thief transformer

This is not surprising. Tinubu is viewed first as Yoruba, forget this religion talk. Nobody expected Obi to compete in Ekiti unless they were delusional

Ondo and Ekiti is write off for Tinubu. 75% of my people are from there.

Even places like Okitipupa, Irele, Ese Odo wey never see light 10 years go still vote APC. That one no shock

BlueRayDick:
Normally I would’ve ignored , but I hate it when people deliberately misinform others who may not be familiar with the true position of things .

Anybody who knows Lagos Island well enough knows there’s no way any Igbo, Hausa , Tiv, Birom, Efik etc people could’ve burnt those aforementioned place. The whole carnage happened on a day when businesses did not open due to the curfew that was imposed by the state government a day before . There are pictures and videos of some of those boys online ( I used to have the videos of the boys sacking the Oba compound , swimming in his pool and carting away his dollars stash ) n

One has to be mischievous to think those boys are Igbo’s who only go to the island to trade in Balogun and the spare parts market around igbosere area that did all that when they couldn’t even leave their respective houses due to the curfew

Lol na Yoruba hoodlums do that work. Anyone saying they were Igbos is just being deliberately dishonest. People say Lagos is a 'no man's land' but we all know this is cap. There's what you do as an outsider that the powers that be in Lagos will show you you no get levels

VoteTinubu2023:
Atiku will not get 25% in Kano.

Atiku will not get 25% in Rivers.

Atiku will not get 25% in Lagos.


This man is fuçcked!

This has been my argument since. If Atiku cannot score 25% in cosmopolitan Kano and Lagos. Why are people now talking about Obi helping Tinubu? In fact it should be argued that Atiku helped Tinubu

Musiala and Coman make it 3-zip

andrew444:
Pretend you don’t miss lewandowski

Pretend he is not a big game player

Throw any hate word against him because he forced a move to Barca

With lewandowski in your team currently you won’t be tied on points with union Berlin and BVB ,you will rather be 10 point clear ,you don’t be drawing some games you will be winning

Nevertheless,you will still win the league without him but not with style as usual

Lool. Bro nobody send Lewandowski papa. We like that the league is competitive this year

Face your Lewandowski and Barcelona that didn't even make Europa round of 16

LikeAking:
You no one bf?

Nigerians like as things spoil.

Na when Dem no get money them dey complain..

Of course. It was so funny seeing the same people that said nothing about strikes, insecurity, fuel price increase and scarcity e reach naira scarcity they all found their voices.

As Nigerians do go church and mosque reach the wickedness na follow come

Roland17:
The more JJ Reddick talk, the sillier he sounds. He needs to look around the room and realize he is slow in the dark even amongst pro-modern players.

He's not different from the Skip Bayless people love to hate.
If his shtick is to be that guy that disses the previous generation of players then that is allowed and understandable but when some pretend like he's some intelligent pundit that's the part that does my head in and amuses me.

He's just a well spoken Kendrick Perkins and is fast approaching mascot levels

Roland17:
The year’s NBA Allstar games had the lowest TV/ viewing rating in the history of the NBA.

Adam Silver, ma fi ejo wewe oshi pa mi! You will go down as the pest commissioner in the history of the NBA.

When we talk they will say we are hating today's skilled and athletic players

larride:
Atiku will also win his NE region but the margin wont be much. Atiku will most likely win Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe while Bauchi might flip to APC. Yobe and Borno will naturally go to APC.

North West is where he could've flexed muscle but if he didnt dey, he didnt dey

If APC wins Yobe and Borno which NE come remain again?

DissTroy:
It has begun. Imagine defeating the Orji Uzork Kalu - Ikpeazu dynasty in Abia by an unknown candidate.

https://www.nairaland.com/7586676/inec-declares-lps-ginger-onwusibe

Do you get it now. I've never heard such in my life

liveLongNprospa:
Hurt fire.. Abi it was Obi that gave the 2019 ticket legitimacy and this election has backed it up very well.

The supposed national spread attached to atiku is looking even more likely with Obi.

So again who is the bigger politician among all 4 of them.


It's like saying if Obi and kwankwaso is to merge, then that one will open his mouth to say he wants to be presido...


Until any of them can do what Obi has done with an unknown party, he will go into an agreement with all of them being his VP. The end.

Make we dey wait election

Looking at the results so far. An Obi and Kwankwaso collab would have been a slam dunk but Kwankwaso and his yeye pride got in the way. Can you imagine an Obi/Kwankwaso ticket?? NW in the bag, SS/SE in the bag. Christian states in North Central in the bag and with wide margins too

If Atiku is that guy then at the very least we should be talking about a run off

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao people wey we nor know dey get shot at HOR and Senate coz of Obi.

Person dey talk atiku.

It's hard for people to accept that maybe the actual small boy in this election is actually looking like atiku

Exactly. It can be argued that Obi being on the ballot is why he won that many states in SS/SE back then. After all we have no track record of Fulani man consistently winning Southern votes.

larride:
I've always maintained it here that Atiku is not that popular in the North.

I'm surprised people are surprised.

Exactly so why are people hammering on Obi helping Tinubu? Instead of admitting Atiku lacks the pull.

Of the 3 candidates he's the only one you cannot beat your chest and say he will win even North Central. So basically the plan was to harvest Obi's supporters

At least Tinubu is holding his own side. Atiku too should first hold his side before talking about other parts of the country

BlueRayDick:
I actually didn't know much about Peter Obi prior to the last 9 months. I took my time did a personal research away from the campaign of calumny against his person by opposition parties, checked and verified his records like he's always advised and I confirmed the man is actually different from the looters in powers we have parading themselves as political bigwigs in the elections.

I'm impressed he's been consistent steadily about who he is and what he wants for the people.

Obi's problem is he doesn't blow his trumpet enough. If you read that man's bio and accomplishments you would be wowed

He's a businessman not a career politician. Think about it. How many SE governors have left office and didn't bother going for Senator any other post? Showed no interest in picking a successor or meddling in state politics.

He's the type of guy Nigerians need at center. It seems though that a lot of people are happy with how dysfunctional Nigeria is and are fighting day and night for things to remain that way.

VoteTinubu2023:
Can he do a 60% in NW and NE?

That's my point. Why are people talking about SS and SE. Last I checked he's the only Northerner on the ballot. If he can't do 60-70% in those regions then what are we now talking about

monerozi5590:
A40, those guys have the numbers, the political will and also money too. So e go hard.

But I'm not talking about just money or political will. I'm stating that blood will flow.

liveLongNprospa:
Obi has cooked Abuja anyhow.. Like anyhow

The way Obi is cooking FCT and Plateau and people are saying Obi hurt Ndi Dubai ndi Bum short. If Atiku is popular should they be dividing and carving up his North like this?

Of the 3 candidates he's the only one it seems is not holding his side. How is that Obi's fault

afrodoc2:
4 states pere. So Tinubu would have won 4 states and Atiku would have won 7 states?

So because of Obi, Atiku went from winning 7 state to winning 0 state. Minus 7 states!

While Tinubu lost only 4 possible states.

According to your own theory.

Thanks for proving my point. 🙏

4 states he had never won before is not a feat??

I'm not proving your point I'm showing you that Atiku potentially losing all 11 states suggest he is not a serious candidate like you give him credit for. Obi's candidacy is not sufficient excuse for Atiku to lose all 11 states. How is that hard to understand?

Atiku's problem is he is not a dominant Northerner. If he dominated his region he wouldn't have this problem. In neutral states like Lagos and FCT he is also struggling.

If Atiku loses it will not be because Obi helped Tinubu it would be because Atiku himself is not a popular enough candidate

monerozi5590:
From what I heard about Yakowa. He did excellently well when he was the governor of Kaduna State. He was loved by all. He contested and even won as a Christian.

You know politics is a game of numbers.

There is numbers then there is equity. If we are in a multicultural democracy and only one set of people are always in power then who are we fooling?

I asked simple question sha. From what you know about Kaduna. Do you believe a Christian Christian candidate can successfully lead the state. Say a Christian governor is elected with a muslim deputy and he leaves for whatever reason. Do you believe a Christian governor in Kaduna can appoint a Christian deputy?

afrodoc2:
You are the one with answers. You tell me the SE state that Tinubu of the APC party that just finished wrecking Nigeria over 8 years would have won.
The same Tinubu that was instrumental in getting Buhari into office and watched as Buhari destroyed the country.

The alleged Tribalist Tinubu with a Muslim VP against liberal Atiku with a Christian Igbo VP.

Which SE states would that same Tinubu have won in a straight contest with Atiku.

You're asking question. I gave you 4 states in the SS/SE APC could have won or easily garnered the 25% required. And I didn't even include places like Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and Rivers where Tinubu can easily get 25%

Guy. I'm telling you that the average SS/SE does not see any real difference between Atiku and Tinubu. With both their names on the ballot it's not sure for Atiku that he wins all 11 states. Don't ask me which states cos I answered in my previous post. If you insist on not seeing it nothing I can do about that.

Is it not telling that SS/SE voters would rather vote an Obi with an unlikely chance of winning than an Atiku that supposedly presented a more realistic chance of winning?

Like I said your argument would have been solid if Atiku won some states in the SS/SE. But in the event of Obi winning all 11 states. Saying Obi helped Tinubu instead of admitting Atiku has been overrated doesn't make much sense. You're not a spoiler if you win more states than the person you supposedly spoiled elections for

monerozi5590:
Baba the deputy governor in EL Rufai first term was a Christian from Southern Kaduna, Bantex. He left after 4 years. That he wants to contest for Kaduna South Senatorial District. He is APC man. He was beaten by a PDP man.

Since El Rufai is from the North side, his deputy must be from the South side. He picked a woman from the South side but the woman is a Muslim. He said he picked her because of competency and performance based not because she is a Muslim.

Are you a Southern Kaduna man? Cos if you are not I have to take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Do you think Kaduna can have Christian Christian in Government house? You want to tell me with a straight face that state will not boil? We saw what Yakowa eyes saw as KD governor till he got killed so let's leave all this story and this fake objectivity una dey like form

I will ask you now. Can Christian Governor and Christian Deputy be in charge in Kaduna state?

afrodoc2:
Lol so you can’t tell me which SE states Tinubu would have won?

Another question. Whose votes did Obi cut into more, was it Atiku’s votes or Tinubu votes?

One thing about electoral maths is that it doesn’t care about your feelings. 😁

You're telling me Tinubu can't win Imo? Ebonyi? Edo, Cross Rivers with Ayade?

Voter apathy, cutting a few deals and cooking a few books is all it would have taken.

Think about it. Atiku's deputy now is a sitting governor in Delta state and still Delta is not sure for Atiku. This should show you that irrespective of party Deltans no send him papa. After all two sitting senators are APC.

GloriousGbola:
the moment GEJ became president, the SS and SE became ride or die for PDP

anyone who followed politics then saw it clearly

now PDP will effectively be a northern party, LP will be an SS/SE party [ironic] and APC - well that remians to be seen. i honestly want sure the party would survive buhari's fking around

I think people underrate the decision to throw PDP open at the primaries. I'm just laughing at people that thought Atiku would automatically inherit PDP votes in the region.

You think after 8 years of Buhari SS/SE will rush to vote another Fulani man?

afrodoc2:
You are conflating electoral mathematics with the substance and quality of the candidate.

Which states would Tinubu have won in the SE in a straight contest between Atiku and Tinubu. Let’s start from there.

That's neither here nor there. If Atiku can lose all 11 SS states. Am I supposed to assume states like Cross Rivers, Imo, Rivers, Bayelsa even Edo couldn't have been stolen by APC?

If Atiku goes 0-11 H2H vs Obi in that entire region while Atiku cannot hold his weight up North then the help argument is immaterial.

Ok say Obi finishes with more votes than Atiku you will still say Obi helped Tinubu? Or that Atiku was simply not popular enough to win on his own merits

afrodoc2:
That is a different argument. What I was addressing is your claim that Obi did not help Tinubu.

Without Obi you and I know that Atiku defeats Tinubu in the SE in a landslide and also wins the SS.

To simplify. Obi took 11 states away from Atiku in the SS and SE.

Even most of Obi’s NC votes are Northern Christian votes that would have gone majorly to Atiku.

Kwankwaso completed the hatchet job by stripping Atiku of his NW PDP votes.

What must have surprised him (like it did many of us) was the strength of the Obi movement. Immediately Obi became a major factor Atiku’s hopes were doomed.

Naah I don't agree Atiku wins by landslide in SS/SE. Are you forgetting 3 of the states in that region are under APC?

You say Obi took away 11 states from Atiku. I say who says the 11 states are for Atiku? Hustle your votes is the name of the game. Atiku picked a governor from Delta and even the same Delta is not guaranteed to vote Atiku. That says it all.

Now let's come to the North. Atiku's numbers are far from impressive. Most of the Northern voters voting Obi would have sat out the elections. Same with the South.

Kwankwaso network no pass Kano and Jigawa that means 17 Northern states to fight for. Benue and Plateau are potentially leaning towards Obi. That is making 15 states up for grabs

Again everyone is expecting people to step aside for Atiku instead of him to compete on his own rights.

So your argument might be right in principle but how can we argue Obi helped Tinubu when we should be asking if Atiku is actually good enough to help himself?

monerozi5590:
Baba na structure oh. Talking about Benue. Most Benue sons don't like Ortom. Some are even mocking him that he is only governor that support Obi but doesn't pay salaries .


El Rufai being a bigot is debatable sir.. The insecurity in southern Kaduna don tire the guy too. The guy vex put southern Kaduna man in charge of security in Kaduna State. Guess what, the man in charge of security in Kaduna State is being hated by southern Kaduna people. His own people.

Ortom is not hated or radioactive. A lot of Nigerian governors no dey pay salary. That one is not news. Go and ask Osun state civil servants what their eyes are seeing or what their eyes saw for Oyetola hand.

Ortom will win his district with minimal fuss. Benue people respect him for the courage he handled the Fulani Herdsmen crisis with

The same El Rufai that imposed Muslim Muslim candidate on a cosmopolitan city and state like Kaduna? El Rufai na bigot. And this is coming from someone that does not use that word loosely. There's a reason Southern Kaduna residents are voting Obi enmasse and don't tell me it's because of Datti

GloriousGbola:
i think ibime put it best

atiku is a lazy obj era politician who expects his dollars to the his politicking for him.

wike should never have been his vice [man is radioactive] , but if Atiku had been actively on ground in pdp politics these past 6 years, he could have managed wike much better than this.

Make he just dey go back him Dubai. This man has no real grassroots support

For a 'rookie' like Obi to be competing in FCT and Lagos on his own merits what now is the use of Atiku? He's a dinosaur as far as I'm concerned

afrodoc2:
You keep looking at it the wrong way.

In a straight fight between Atiku and Tinubu who would have won each of these states?

Anambra
Enugu
Imo
Abia
Ebonyi
Delta
Edo
Rivers
Bayelsa


Tell me which ones Tinubu would have won and which ones Atiku would have won,

What this tells me is Atiku is a leech banking on SS/SE votes

Why is he entitled to votes from that geopolitical zone when his standing is shaky in the North? If he cannot win North Central states and deep North states why should the SS and SE back him?

This is the entitlement we're talking about. If he was winning in the North it's a different case but as we speak can you point 5 states in the North that is banker for Atiku?