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SIMPonPatrol:
I have lost contact with the only friend from Benue I have but I'm hopeful that I will reconnect with him one of these days.

I'm very sure Adakole will invite me to his house and he will do the needful, I will come here to give testimony

No Tiv man is named Adakole.

darling4242:
Engaging in violence or disruptive behavior can detract from the issues at hand and may not lead to productive solutions. It's crucial for political leaders and their followers to find more constructive ways to address their concerns and differences.

People resort to self help or violence, when they see no justice coming their way as Nigeria is country devoid of justice, where only the fittest survive.

Appletek:
So, this is what Yorubas in Igboland suffer?

This will be implemented in Lagos for Igbos.

I am not a Yoruba, I am a northerner.

Reason he never condemned Bubu for once.

I also paid for this in 2015 in Imo state, in a village known as Agbala (not the Agbala in the south west), here, we the entire tenants, paid for security levy of N200 monthly after purchasing the form for N100.

The difference here was that, both Igbos and non Igbos has to pay, once you are not an indigen.

OKUCHI11:
one thing I've noticed is that Tiv people like ashy work... it's not hard for you to see a Tiv lady in the brothel

This is not only synonymous with the Tivs, where I reside, the Calabar/Akwaibom has taken the led.

The Igbose are not left out, I have Yoruba agbo sellers, who are also selling their bodies to willing buyers, they hide under agbo to hwak their bodies, there are also hausas in Hijab in brothels here in the eastern part of the country. Benin girls are not left out.

So, what are you saying?

Shinjawestern:
In Igbo land they do eat human meat and sleep with their daughters.

This is another lie, I am a Tiv man, I have been in Igbo land for 13 years now, I have been to Anambra for four years, Abia, one year, Imo 8 years. I have also spent months, weeks and days in Evonyi and Enugu. I can tell you sincerely that, this is a crime against a whole tribe you have just committed.

I do read of divorce cases from the western states of Nigeria, where the husbands were found by their wives to be having carnal knowledge of their bilogical daughters, this is found in almost all the tribes, some people do it for evil rituals, you can not use a fews case to stigmatize a whole tribe, this is evil.

SIMPonPatrol:
It's part of their tradition so I see nothing wrong with it

If you are sure this is our tradition, and you have proof to this effect, go to Nnzough U Tiv (Tiv Day Celebration Gboko 2017) on Facebook, there is a N10m offer for you, submit the details of your benefactors, after verification, you will be given N10m.

If not, keep quiet, or I will personally ensure that there is no more faceless profile on this forum, to stop people from talking without consequences.

Rucheen:
Them they give

But because of insults, they've restricted it and give only to themselves

Go to Tiv land and drag or share an ordinary girlfriend with another person, come back with your testimony.

epondudu:
Op.....no matter what you write here they do it for their tribes men but not for visitors from other tribes Please don't try to change people's culture.

If you were to make your identity known, I would have made you to present your evidence in court to deter others from speculating what doesn't exist.

okunwaye:
Random men are already 4kin them in brothels across Nasarawa and F.C.T

Is this same as a man given out his married wife to a visitor?

I am aTiv man, who lived in different parts of Nigeria at different times, I can tell you that prostitution is inherent in all tribes, if you can name your tribe and make your WhatsApp number available to me, I will have your tribal sister video talk to you from a brothel in a matter of days.

Let's not talk because Nairaland is a faceless forum.

Casham:
I have heard this rumours a lot, but, for the love of me, common sense, makes me doubt the rumours. I never really believed it. And I also do not believe Tiv women are mostly prostitutes. Though the number of the uneducated among Tiv women is alarming; prostitution is a thing common to all people. I have seen a lot of chaste Tiv women.

All humans detest rivalry in a single person to single person relationship, how can a man give his wife out, for what?

Tozocalamity:
Op can u just summarise this epistle for us in one sentence.

Adultery is not acceptable in Tiv land, we even believe that, any man that is having a secret affair with someone's wife automatically become his chicken to be offered to a diety known as "IMBOLIVUNGU" a replica of "OFFOR" of the Igbo people.

How on earth can someone who doesn't want to share a girlfriend with another person gives out his married wife to a visitor?

Plans are already on the way to sue the slot that churned that nonsense out on a national TV.

Newton2024:
Long essay above is a confirmation that the allegation true. The purpose of the long essay is to confuse us.

If you have any evidence, go to Mnzough U Tiv (Tiv day celebration Gboko 2017) on Facebook and give us dull details of your benefactors and go home with N10M, if all details are verified to be true.

If not, keep your peace.

dontrulee:
Op, shey na you write this thing or na copy and paste?

I am Tiv man myself, I tried much to make it short, and that's the shortest it can be.

jom28gy:
The allegations about it is too over weighing, are you denying it now,

There is an offer of over N10m for any one with concrete proof of this allegations to be given. It started by one person offering N200k and people kept adding to it till as at Saturday, it was over N10m.

If you know anyone who had Ben offered a wife by a Tiv man, or if you yourself have benefited from such, show proof by stating the names of the husband, the wife, and the kindred, clan and Local Government of your benefactors, when all these are verified, you will be given N10m cash.

If you have no proof, keep your peace.

Cheers.

I elect to keep sharing this, I submit that the interminable arraignments projected against the Tiv nation on Tivs offering their wives to visitors for consummation/sexual ecstasy is a deliberate premeditated falacy that is fabricated to derogate,disparage and deride the Tiv nation.

The little piece of write up scribed by the erudite Legal Juggernaut suffices in apprising/elucidating the masses on what truly transpired and why it has been propagated like wild fire.

I implore the Younger generation to read, share and keep sharing.

IS ADULTERY LAWFUL IN TIV LAND?
What the world needs to know about Tiv People and their Wives
(BY S.T. HON, SAN, FCIArb.)

It has taken me more than a decade to make up my mind on writing this article, knowing the passion it is likely to generate, no thanks to the sensitive nature of the topic. At a point, I even played with the idea of not doing any public write up on the subject matter.

However, the sheer ferocity and consistency of the misinformation being peddled around and the risk of not standing up against this deliberate falsehood against my clan (and vicariously, perhaps, against me) while I am yet alive and the greater risk of going to join my Creator at His appointed time without countering this public lie have all made me damn the consequences and send this article for publication.

It all started in 1987 in a criminal complaint of adultery, in the case of Tofi vs. Uba (1987) 3 NWLR (Pt. 62) 707 C.A. In this case, the appellant had filed a private criminal prosecution for adultery against the 1st respondent in the Magistrate’s Court, contrary to section 387 of the Penal Code.

It must be noted that under this penal provision, a man can only be guilty of adultery if he is “subject to any native law or custom in which extra-marital sexual intercourse is recognised as a criminal offence.” This provision was one of the compromise provisions of the Penal Code at the time of its enactment, which balanced Sharia law with native law and custom, as both religions or customs held sway in the then Northern Nigeria.

When the charge against the 1st respondent came up, his counsel raised objection that the charge did not disclose any offence known to law, contrary to section 33(12) of the 1979 Constitution – the equivalent of section 36(12) of the 1999 Constitution, as amended. At that relevant time, the Local Government (Declaration of Tiv Customary Marriage) Order, 1985 was in force; and section 25(1)(f) thereof provided that “any person who detained a wife duly married under this Declaration for any reason or purposes whatsoever against the wish of the husband” was guilty of an offence.

In view of this, the learned trial Magistrate dismissed the objection and called upon the 1st respondent to take his plea. Rather than do so, he applied to the High Court for judicial review, pursuant to section 33(12) of the 1979 Constitution. The High Court granted his reliefs and quashed the charge. The appellant’s appeal to the Court of Appeal was dismissed on rather technical grounds. That Court held that since the Local Government (Declaration of Tiv Customary Marriage) Order, 1985, did not prohibit adultery in express terms but merely criminalised wrongful detention of a married woman against her husband’s wish, section 33(12) of the 1979 Constitution was rightly invoked by the 1st respondent; because this meant adultery per se was not a crime in Tiv land.

The Court of Appeal also rejected the need for oral evidence to be called.
It was this judgment that laid the unfortunate foundation for the scandalous, ever-blossoming and tendentious falsehood that adultery in lawful in Tiv land. This barefaced lie is even widened to include a very silly assertion that ‘when you visit a Tiv man, he will offer you his wife’! What a monstrous and pith-of-hell assertion! Not even domestic or wild animals tolerate strangers or lesser males going near their female partners (and not even wives); talk more of the naturally well and strongly-built (chemistry-wise) and ultra-proud Tiv man!
Before I proceed further, I wish to submit that in the whole of Southern Nigeria, adultery remains a moral offence as opposed to a criminal offence. So, are we on this basis alone going to say adultery is not a criminal offence or is lawful in Southern Nigeria? I think not, with due respect.

In my mental agony of trying to repel this rapaciously-growing corporate lie against my clan (and vicariously against me), I dug deep into some fork lore and traditional songs. Two songs readily came to my mind.The first is this: “Aberanyi, ikurche, or van nya kpa ka gbidi nan; Ikurche, Terem O, or van nya ta abeda icul.” This, translated, means: “Aberanyi, let me give you information (ikurche”), even a visitor can be beaten; more information (“ikurche”) my dear father, your visitor tied your wife’s wrapper.” This is a clear indication that while Aberanyi the father was not around, the visitor misbehaved with the wife and there was need to teach the visitor the lesson of his life!
The second song goes thus: “Baba o-o, Baba u yem ke zende yo, or nyor sha yough i Aya la, or yav sha gambe u Aya; Aya ka a daa or; or a daa Aya, cho i gba ga Aya yav gadeaa, kwaghbo.” Everybody knows the meaning of “Baba.” The interpretation, therefore is thus: Father, while you travelled, a stranger entered into your elder wife’s (Aya’s) hut, sat on her bed and the two of them started pushing each other until after a while, Aya, the old women lay weak; it is an abomination (kwaghbo). Of course, the consequence of such kwaghbo or abomination could only be imagined!

My findings and views above were recently confirmed by no other person than the Tor Tiv, HRM Dr. Alfred Akawe Torkula, the paramount traditional ruler of the Tiv worldwide, in his book, The Tiv Woman: Challenges and Prospects, published by the Aboki Publishers in 2009, the foreword of which was written by no less a personality than HE Rt. Hon. Gabriel Suswam, the Executive Governor of Benue State, himself a Tiv. Writing in his capacity as the chief custodian of Tiv cultural values, HRM submitted on pages 21-22, under the banner FIDELITY, as follows:
“The challenges of the pre-colonial Tiv woman were enormous. She had to be faithful to her husband at all times. Like the Idoma of Central Nigeria who dragged their wives before alekwu for adulterous confession, as reported by Shishima (2008), the pre-colonial Tiv woman faced the same situation … married women were subjected to periodic concoction-drinking rituals to determine their fidelity in marriage … It was an exercise in morality which brought honour, respect and good reputation to the husband on one hand and the parents of the woman on the other. Any adulterous woman who dared to drink the concoction risked instant death if relevant deities were not appeased or propitiated.”

And concluding on the effect of Christianity on the moral life of the Tiv woman, HRM summed up on page 41 of the book as follows:
“No less obedient to her husband, educated, feminine in structure, comely in looks, stately in gait, and faithful among other equals, more than any woman in Nigeria, the Tiv woman today yearns and aspires for the best that is available for the womenfolk…. Through evangelisation, her belief in tsav and akombo (wizardry) has been replaced by the Christian Biblical teaching of the Almighty God … The Christian God has become central in the belief system of the Tiv people as a whole.”

What a truism! If over 95 per cent (by my estimation) of Tiv people are Christians, where then is the place for adultery?

My research has further shown me that a man reacts angrily, call it fatally, to infidelity of his wife or partner. The Tiv man is not an exception. Two recently reported cases will support this. In Sugh vs. State (1988) 2 NWLR (Pt. 77) 475 S.C., the appellant, a Tiv man, murdered in broad daylight a foreigner for flirting with his Philippine girlfriend in Makurdi, Benue State. He was sentenced to death, which sentence was confirmed by the Supreme Court. More recently, the Court of Appeal confirmed the death sentence of another Tiv man in far away Osun State, who had murdered a native of that State for flirting with his wife. This was in the case of Ahungur vs. State (2012) 12 NWLR (Pt. 1313) 187 C.A. Admittedly, every society has deviants, sinners and immoral persons. Tiv land cannot be an exception till our Lord returns in His Glory to take His saints to heaven. But I oppose the lie growing like wildfire that adultery is lawful or even tolerated in Tiv land. This is an intolerable lie. It must die a natural death. Now! God bless the Tiv nation.

Esama:
Anything that will make yamari having sleepless night is welcome from me.Tinubu can appoint anyone he like especially loyal to him the haters can go to hell .

God bless Edo state and Nigeria as whole.

Power is transient remember, 4 to 8 years is not eternity. The table always turns.

Is giving in relationships nolonger reciprocal? Why do ladies make it look as if, once a guy asks you out, he should be the only one giving?

Hanty (aunty) you never told us how much or what and what you have done for him, apart from what you both enjoyed illegally.

You are selfish and calculative. You calculated your gain before going ahead, may be the guy read your intents and acted accordingly.

Praxis758:
But you were quiet about this under buhari and supported him when he kept blaming PDP for our woes.

It’s time for you to start blaming buhari, else, you’ll be an hypocrite!

He wanted to succeed Buhari, that's why.

trutharena:
Yearbook will come out in the next year so the url saying 1980 is very correct.

You have Spring, Summer, and Fall semester for year 1979. So if you want to capture all students considering the fact that Fall semester usually end in December, the best thing to do is to release it the next year.

I know you are an illiterate so you won't know this. Lol, so Tinubu go pay Chicago to go back in time and put his name?

OP, Tinibu's problem are the people who know him inside out, those you may think are close to him, or were close to him in those days. They are the ones given out details.

A statement or two from them is just to save face, and remain unsuspecious.

Going by the antics if Nigerian politicians, Tinibu might have been aloted free land before such utterances.

Going by the antics of Nigerian politicians, it seems Tinibu has already requested for the free land before coming out to churn this coverup and diversionary trash

Churning out unverified statistics as usual.

I am just returning from an accident scene at wuse 2 after the famous diamond junction on Ahmadu bello way directly behind sinoni lodge in Abuja .

Now , a 406 prestige car broke down on the way and the owner displayed the caution sign and drop multiple palm trees leaves up to 30 Meters .

The owner went to the next junction called nitel junction to get a towing van and left somebody at the scene flagging on coming vehicles down .

A power bike guy came passing the flagging man, ride on the leaves ,broke the caution sign and hit the vehicle and died on getting to the hospital.so sad .

The bikers gathered called police and their argument was that the duration the car broke down and the time of the accident is long enough for the owner to have evacuated the broke down vehicle so the owner of the car be held responsible for everything.

Now what does the high way code says about such incident?
Is it putting all the necessary precautions that matters or the during the car broke down and is not removed that matters ?

endsarrrs:
Any English or botanical word to describe the fruit ?

The English name is bush mango.

endsarrrs:
Op, where can one get the fruit?

If you need original drawing Ogbono, I can supply you in early January. I sold out all the ones I got this January to business people.

Uyomiya:
Do you know the name of this fruit?

In Igbo it is called ugiri and the seed is what is used to make ogbono soup you enjoy.

You can eat the back just like apple the the seed is dried and blended for ogbono soup.

Is God not wonderful?

Ugiri and Ogbono (bush mango) may be similar, but are not the same.

Ugiri doesn't draw, but ogbono does.


I have alest, 8 bush Mango trees.

What Tinibu is trying to hide is not necessary the Chicago records, but records used in gaining admission in Chicago, the date of birth, primary and post primary attented, the controversial female Bola and the later Ahmed, and all that.

But we need all these, if not for this present electoral case, for posterity sake, and for future references.

DECENTBWOY:
Good morning nairalanders, I know its too early to post this but this issue has been troubling me for a while now.
I can't sleep, even if i eventually do, i can't stay asleep, for example if i sleep by 2am, i will wake up by 4am and thats it for that night.
It has been going on for months now, and i hardly sleep in the afternoon too..
If you observe when i made this post, I slept around 3am because today is my birthday, i was answering calls and chats from well wishers, now i am up again around 5, thats why i made this post, i am fed up...

Please can you guys suggest a very strong sleeping tablet for me? I really need to sleep and stay asleep, i mean lock everywhere up, eat, take the tablet and sleep a very deep sleep, a kind of sleep that i will not know what is happening around...

Please help a brother, i don even begin de slim like who them de squeeze blood commut for body....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY HUMBLE SELF BTW...

You don't need drugs to sleep. Just take honey, mixed with milk and you will sleep like a baby.

Those children that begged and hold your hands are not Nigerians, they are from Niger republic, and are littered in all the cities in Nigeria.